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[11:59] <blaze> sigh
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[12:00] <blaze> found that kwalletcli is not in kubuntu-packaging
[12:01] <blaze> but it needs to be patched
[12:19] <blaze> here https://paste.ubuntu.com/25967148/ https://paste.ubuntu.com/25967152/
[12:20] <blaze> acheronuk: what do you think?
[12:25] <acheronuk> blaze: thanks. I doubt I will have a chance to look properly today. Can someone make a task or something so it doesn't get forgotten?
[12:27]  * acheronuk heads to Pub for lunch
[12:28] <acheronuk> I may be some time.....
[12:29] <mparillo> https://phabricator.kde.org/T7452
 TY :)
[12:31] <blaze> :)
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
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[14:44] <clivejo> tsimonq2: would you be able to apply that patch to https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/kwalletcli.git ?
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie would be better applied in debian and synced if it is needed
 plus see blaze's lates comment
 @acheronuk, I can help that
 @tsimonq2 see blaze's last comment on the phab task. now thinks it not needed
[15:12] <clivejo> @acheronuk yeah, it is maintained upstream in collab-maint which I believe Stallion Simon has access to 
 "I realized that there's no need for these changes. Actually they can even break something. Also the project is not a part of KDE Apps https://www.mirbsd.org/kwalletcli.htm … Sorry for the noise"
 ^^ from blaze
[15:15] <clivejo> blaze: do you work on kwalletcli ?
 @clivejo, I do
 @acheronuk, Ok
[15:17] <clivejo> "Actually they can even break something." I didn't see that comment, where was that?
 phab task
[15:19] <clivejo> oh my
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[19:33] <clivejo> hi sick_rimmit
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[20:16] <sick_rimmit> Hi clivejo
[20:16] <sick_rimmit> Sorry didn't spot the mention
[20:16] <sick_rimmit> Been cracking on with a few tasks
[20:17] <sick_rimmit> Just looking at YouTube Analytics - WoW!!
[20:17] <sick_rimmit> Very very interesting statistics
[20:17] <clivejo> yeah, doing well 
[20:17] <clivejo> but could do lot better
[20:17] <sick_rimmit> Putting that video on our website was a brilliant idea
[20:18] <clivejo> have you seen how Michael does his news thingie?>
[20:18] <sick_rimmit> It's drawn loads of traffic and views, compared to everything else
[20:18] <sick_rimmit> On TuxDigital
[20:18] <clivejo> yup
[20:18] <sick_rimmit> if so, no I haven't
[20:18] <sick_rimmit> I'll watch the latest show
[20:18] <sick_rimmit> I'm looking at the Phab Task for YouTube Analytics report
[20:19] <sick_rimmit> trying to think about how to present that and whom to share it with
[20:19] <clivejo> was wondering if we could do a small news video 
[20:21] <sick_rimmit> We could do with a Video Editor Producer on the Team.
[20:24] <MichaelTunnell> hi
[20:24] <clivejo> hi MichaelTunnell
[20:24] <sick_rimmit> Hi MichaelTunnell
[20:24] <clivejo> your ears burning?
[20:24] <MichaelTunnell> sometimes, luckily they make creams for that
[20:24] <sick_rimmit> lol
[20:25] <clivejo> reviews in your next show ;)
[20:25] <clivejo> did you get Richard?
[20:33] <MichaelTunnell> I'm missing something I think :)
[20:33] <sick_rimmit> ?
[20:35] <MichaelTunnell> it's been almost 20 minutes . . . watch the episode yet? :)
[20:37] <clivejo> 20 mins?
[20:38] <clivejo> Im confused
[20:42] <sick_rimmit> Er.. is that to me, I am supposed to be watching the episode ?
[20:43] <MichaelTunnell> I was just kidding in terms of the log. No rush at all on watching the show :)
[20:43] <sick_rimmit> Oh cool
[20:43] <sick_rimmit> I'll watch it later from my Tablet.
[20:43] <sick_rimmit> I'm working on my laptop in living room with Wife
[20:44] <sick_rimmit> She gets upset if the laptop is playing YouTube videos, and I have no headphones to hand
[20:44] <clivejo> MichaelTunnell: do you use bitwarden?
[20:44] <MichaelTunnell> sounds good to me, no problem at all. I just saw the opportunity to jump in and be like "I hear ya"
[20:44] <MichaelTunnell> clivejo: yes I do
[20:45] <clivejo> <<[20:45] <clivejo> do you know the dev?
[20:45] <MichaelTunnell> I do not know the dev no
[20:45] <clivejo> I'd really love OTP to be autofilled
[20:46] <MichaelTunnell> it has autofill features in "experimental" right now
[20:47] <clivejo> oh?
[20:48] <MichaelTunnell> I am making a video on bitwarden actually because I switched to it from LastPass and it provides pretty much everything I liked about LP and more. The PIN lock on the phone app is fantastic because I hated saving password on the app in LP or always manually entering it. This is a fantastic solution for that issue
[20:48] <clivejo> it autofills via the Accessibilty feature in Andriod
[20:48] <clivejo> but so did Lasspass
[20:48] <clivejo> oh I have fingerprint lock on the app
[20:48] <clivejo> love it!
[20:49] <MichaelTunnell> yea that is even better if you have a phone that supports that lol i dont :(
[20:49] <clivejo> tut tut Mr Tux
[20:51] <clivejo> think I'm gonna have to downgrade my phone back to N
[20:52] <clivejo> too many bugs for a daily driver
[20:52] <MichaelTunnell> I dont even have the option to use O even if I wanted to. lol Nexus devices being ignored is pathetically hilarious
[20:53] <clivejo> camera and alarms are the two biggest issues
[20:53] <clivejo> even on Lineage?
 @MichaelTunnell, Lineage?
 @clivejo, Lol jinx
[20:53] <clivejo> oh god no
[20:53] <MichaelTunnell> I am going to play around with Lineage for some videos as well as Plasma Mobile :)
[20:54] <clivejo> syn'ing brain waves with Simon is my worst nightmare!
[20:54]  * clivejo loves Lineage
[20:55] <mamarley> Me too.  I always ran it on my old Nexus 5 and I will install it on my G6 just as soon as VoLTE works on Verizon.
[20:58] <clivejo> any of you used Oreo?
[20:59] <mamarley> Nope, not yet.  There aren't yet any feature-complete ROMs for either of the devices I own.
[20:59] <clivejo> no major front end changes, but feels a lot smoother and polished
[20:59] <clivejo> really in two minds about going back to N!
[20:59] <mamarley> I would have just gotten a Pixel, but those have a crappy PenTile RGBG screen (and the Pixel 2 doesn't have a headphone jack).
[21:00] <clivejo> I need to write to the big man for a new phone this XMas
[21:00] <mamarley> The G6 is just about the only flagship left that has both an RGB screen and a headphone jack.
[21:02] <clivejo> hear some good things about Xiaomi
[21:03] <mamarley> Most of the phones from the lesser-known companies like that don't support Verizon.
[21:03] <mamarley> (Or, more accurately, Verizon's CDMA 3G network.)
[21:05]  * valorie hopes that someday Verizon joins the 21st century
[21:05] <mamarley> They already are, LTE is a "GSM" technology.
[21:05] <valorie> since my husband is not interested in changing companies
[21:06] <MichaelTunnell> leave Verizon = problem solved :)
[21:06] <valorie> yeah
[21:06] <valorie> but then I'd have a single account
[21:06] <MichaelTunnell> MetroPCS has great plans both service and price and they aren't awful to deal with (usually)
[21:06] <blaze> we had cdma here once, now it is dead
[21:07] <MichaelTunnell> MetroPCS uses T-Mobile network in case that coverage is good for your aera
[21:07] <MichaelTunnell> area
[21:07] <mamarley> blaze: Both major (historically) CDMA carriers are moving towards LTE, so CDMA will eventually be gone here too.
[21:07] <mamarley> T-Mobile has crappy coverage if you go outside of major cities though (at least in my state).
[21:08] <valorie> they all are less than perfect
[21:08] <MichaelTunnell> in my area the coverage is fine but yea I live fairly close to the largest city in my state so that might be why :)
[21:09] <valorie> I'd like something that works well in Europe too
[21:09] <clivejo> strangely, since I logged into LastPass and cancelled the automatic payment next month, I'm getting lots of adverts for LastPass on xda-dev forum!
[21:10] <MichaelTunnell> clivejo: lol gotta love cookies
[21:10]  * mamarley 's understanding is that one's best bet while traveling is to obtain a prepaid SIM from a local carrier.
[21:10] <mamarley> All the carriers here have international roaming, but it is always mega-buck$ expensive.
[21:11] <valorie> yeah, I wish all the phones just allowed dual sims
[21:11] <valorie> anything else is a pain
[21:12] <clivejo> dual SIM would be great for me
[21:12]  * mamarley has never personally run into this problem however because he extremely seldom leaves the US.
[21:13] <clivejo> mamarley: can also be good for other things
[21:14] <clivejo> business line/personal line
[21:14] <clivejo> do you not have areas in the US are served better by certain carriers?
[21:15] <mamarley> On a small scale, yes.
[21:15] <clivejo> I am lucky in that all the carriers are equally non-existant in my area
[21:15] <mamarley> On a large scale, Verizon's coverage (especially in rural areas) blows everybody else out of the water.
[21:15] <valorie> yep, and we live in the sticks
[21:16] <valorie> and my husband does trail work in even more rural areas most days
[21:16] <clivejo> yet I get a lovely strong signal from the Republic
[21:18] <MichaelTunnell> ASUS Zenfones have dual SIMs, just fyi
[21:19] <mamarley> It used to be that you could get Verizon coverage for much cheaper prices by using an MVNO like Page Plus or Boom Mobile or something, and while those still exist, their 4G plans are all throttled to 5/2, which makes them much less desirable than previously.
[21:34] <clivejo> grrr KDE is messing about again
[21:34]  * clivejo wonders if its an Oreo issue
[21:49] <valorie> MichaelTunnell: next phone I'll check out the zenphones, thanks
[22:02] <MichaelTunnell> :) welcome
[22:14] <sick_rimmit> Time for bed for me
[22:14] <sick_rimmit> Catch y'all tomorrow
[22:14] <sick_rimmit> ttfn