| qwererfrrthyty | windows host + VB 5.1.30 + Lu host 17.10 64 works without problems? | 02:28 |
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| bobsmith83 | hello | 03:51 |
| bobsmith83 | I installed lubuntu on an eeepc 1000 something. screen working fine on boot, but then once desktop comes up, the left 3/4th of the screen is black and unusuable | 03:53 |
| bobsmith83 | any clues? | 03:53 |
| bobsmith83 | hard to troubleshoot when you cant see most of the screen | 03:53 |
| wxl | probably some graphics card problem, bobsmith83 | 03:54 |
| wxl | i'd start with hitting ctrl-alt-f1 and seeing if that displays across the whole screen | 03:54 |
| wxl | if so, that's a good indication | 03:54 |
| wxl | you can look through /var/log/{dmesg,syslog,Xorg.0.log} for more info on the errors | 03:55 |
| wxl | you can grep Xorg.0.log for EE and you'll get only the errors | 03:55 |
| wxl | you can do lspci -nnk | 03:55 |
| wxl | oops | 03:55 |
| bobsmith83 | yeah, you lost me on the last few lines | 03:55 |
| wxl | in terminal: | 03:56 |
| bobsmith83 | what does ctrl-alt-f1 do? | 03:56 |
| wxl | takes you to a "virtual terminal" | 03:56 |
| bobsmith83 | OK, I'll start there. I'm going to get it up and running soon, then will be back here soon. thanks for a starting point... | 03:57 |
| bobsmith83 | I really need a crash course on linux terminal but I can't even get there right now... | 03:59 |
| bobsmith83 | seems like a graphics card driver/firmware problem to me, however, it also works perfactly when booting from a live disk image | 04:00 |
| wxl | you can't ctrl-alt-f1? | 04:02 |
| bobsmith83 | ok, tried control-alt-f2 and the little bit of screen on the right went black too, jubberish across, but still an invisable line. what does this tell me? | 04:25 |
| wxl | yikes that's strange but tends to suggest something deeper is wrong :( | 04:25 |
| wxl | you might want to try to boot the installation image again and ensure it doesn't have the same issue | 04:26 |
| bobsmith83 | thanks wxl. but how do i go about fixing it? since I cant use the screen past the bios? try another distro? I reinstalled lubuntu 3x already. as i said, it works perfact from the live cd | 04:27 |
| wxl | i'd double check that, bobsmith83 | 04:27 |
| bobsmith83 | sorry, double check what? | 04:29 |
| wxl | that the live cd still behaves correctly | 04:29 |
| wxl | i'm inclined to believe you have some sort of hardware failure | 04:29 |
| bobsmith83 | i know, right? seems like hardware, but no way- bios screen perfact, and live cd perfact display. must be video driver/firmware whatever something missing link | 04:30 |
| wxl | but have you checked this since you saw the problem? | 04:31 |
| bobsmith83 | yes, multiple times, really. i see the bios screen everytime I boot. and I've tried the live cd multiple times too, works fine. | 04:32 |
| wxl | ok | 04:32 |
| wxl | i assume you're not currently on that computer? | 04:33 |
| bobsmith83 | I'm going to try another distro right quick, see what happens. should i put in debian, trisquel, or mint? | 04:33 |
| wxl | well mint is essentially a modified ubuntu, so that might be a good way to go | 04:33 |
| wxl | debian is upstream to ubuntu | 04:33 |
| wxl | i think trisquel will just make matters worse XD | 04:34 |
| bobsmith83 | all the iso's i grabbed latest downloads in the past few days. just getting started on gnu linux | 04:34 |
| bobsmith83 | agreed re trisquel | 04:34 |
| bobsmith83 | mint coming up fine on live disk... | 04:43 |
| bobsmith83 | mint too damn close to windows! yuck! | 04:44 |
| bobsmith83 | installing... this is exciting, i know... | 04:50 |
| bobsmith83 | partition errors: "the test of the file system with type ext4 in partition #1 of scsi2 (0,0,0) (sda) found uncorrected errors. | 04:56 |
| bobsmith83 | what? | 04:56 |
| bobsmith83 | any suggestions? | 04:59 |
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| bmatt | MOSE | 15:42 |
| bobsmith83 | good morning. | 17:56 |
| bobsmith83 | noob question: trying to format hdd in "disks" utility. I get error: "error wiping device: command-line 'wipefs -a "/dev/sda" exited with non-zero exit status 1: wipefs: error: /dev/sda: probing initialization failed: device or resource busy" | 17:59 |
| bobsmith83 | i did some searching around and found LOTS of different methods to format disk, but dont know which other to try | 17:59 |
| bmatt | bobsmith83: what device are you trying to format | 18:00 |
| bmatt | a USB drive? a hdd? a potato? | 18:00 |
| bobsmith83 | hdd | 18:01 |
| bmatt | Eh | 18:02 |
| bmatt | Are you using a livecd? | 18:02 |
| bobsmith83 | yes | 18:02 |
| bmatt | Is it mounted? | 18:02 |
| bobsmith83 | ? | 18:02 |
| bmatt | Lol | 18:02 |
| bmatt | Try unmount /dev/sda | 18:03 |
| bmatt | err, sorry, umount /dev/sda | 18:03 |
| bobsmith83 | ok... | 18:03 |
| bobsmith83 | device not mounted | 18:03 |
| bobsmith83 | shall I mount her? | 18:04 |
| bmatt | No sir. | 18:05 |
| bmatt | Try using Gparted. | 18:06 |
| bmatt | Download and install it | 18:06 |
| bobsmith83 | its installed. comes with lubuntu already | 18:06 |
| bmatt | then use it | 18:07 |
| bobsmith83 | ok, i dont see a format option. where do i start? | 18:07 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | bobsmith83: https://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers/2009/gparted-format-to.jpg | 18:13 |
| bobsmith83 | ok... | 18:15 |
| bobsmith83 | i've got a /dev/sda5 partition called linux-swap. shall i select "SWAPOFF?" I have two main partitions, both I formatted, but i still get that error when i try to format in "disks" utility | 18:17 |
| bobsmith83 | I'd like to delete the partitions and start fresh | 18:17 |
| bobsmith83 | sorry for this boring noob question! | 18:18 |
| bobsmith83 | sudu wipefs -a /dev/sda gives error: "probing initialization failed: device or resource busy" | 18:24 |
| bobsmith83 | what does that mean? and how to fix? | 18:24 |
| bobsmith83 | sudo rather... typo | 18:24 |
| bmatt | bobsmith83: it means it's currently in use. | 18:27 |
| bobsmith83 | doesn't seem right. i'm running from live cd, not hdd | 18:28 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | live cd use any swap patrition. if can find it | 18:29 |
| bmatt | bobsmith83: what does mount /dev/sda /media say | 18:30 |
| bobsmith83 | says: already mounted or mount point busy! | 18:33 |
| bmatt | mount | nc termbin.com 9999 | 18:34 |
| bobsmith83 | what does that do? translation? | 18:36 |
| wxl | just use pastebinit, bobsmith83 | 18:37 |
| bobsmith83 | ? | 18:38 |
| wxl | although that is cute | 18:38 |
| wxl | mount | pastebinit | 18:38 |
| wxl | in both cases, it takes the output of mount and puts it on a public pastebin | 18:38 |
| bmatt | only assholes use pastebinit | 18:39 |
| wxl | the termbin option uses netcat, which is a utility you likely have, but the problem is that it uses a non standard port which some firewalls (esp. corporate will block) | 18:39 |
| wxl | bmatt: that language is a violation of the IRC guidelines. don't do it again. | 18:39 |
| bmatt | that's highly speculative | 18:39 |
| bmatt | um | 18:39 |
| bmatt | ban me? | 18:39 |
| bmatt | i don't really give a shit if i'm here to help people or not | 18:39 |
| bmatt | ;) | 18:39 |
| bmatt | terrible community to be banned for words you hear on TV every day. but okay | 18:40 |
| wxl | bmatt: if you insist on being stubborn, please leave | 18:40 |
| bmatt | nah, you can /ignore me or fuck off. that's pretty easy | 18:40 |
| bmatt | don't give me your toltalitarian bullshit ideology, fella. | 18:40 |
| bmatt | i was having a conversation with bobsmith83. so why don't you fuck off? | 18:40 |
| wxl | bmatt: well then a kickban it is. you can go to #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss it more and/or appeal | 18:41 |
| bmatt | i don't give a shit. | 18:41 |
| bobsmith83 | wxl, thanks for your help last night too. I got mint running fine, but then I tried to install lubuntu again | 18:41 |
| bmatt | fuck you and your garbage channel if you wanna ban people for cursing. | 18:41 |
| bmatt | you need to learn to be a bit more polite and a little less aggressive | 18:42 |
| bmatt | "DONT DO IT AGAIN" -- fuck you. what is this, high school? are you the principal? go fuck yourself, buddy. | 18:42 |
| wxl | anyways bobsmith83 did that make sense? | 18:44 |
| bobsmith83 | now, I'm trying to wipe the hdd and start fresh. I dont want mint. I was going to try ubuntu-mate next in hopes that it doesnt have the same display driver problem | 18:45 |
| wxl | unfortunately the core drivers are part of the kernel, which is part of the core that all ubuntu flavors share | 18:45 |
| bobsmith83 | wxl, which part- booting that loose cannon? | 18:45 |
| bobsmith83 | yes | 18:45 |
| bobsmith83 | ok, so ubuntu-mate probably not going to work. How about debian? | 18:46 |
| wxl | bobsmith83: no about how to get us the contents of mount which seems to be what bmatt was asking for | 18:46 |
| wxl | debian is the upstream so ubuntu so it shouldn't be much different | 18:46 |
| wxl | but first: did mint work fine? | 18:46 |
| bobsmith83 | yeah, but mint is debian base too, right? | 18:46 |
| wxl | well the stream of software goes like this: | 18:47 |
| bobsmith83 | mint was fine. | 18:47 |
| wxl | debian -> ubuntu -> mint | 18:47 |
| wxl | so let's ask another question: did you check the hashes of the iso when you downloaded lubuntu? | 18:47 |
| bobsmith83 | i didnt check hashes, but i have installed that image on two or three other machines without problem | 18:48 |
| wxl | well think about this: | 18:48 |
| wxl | if the hash doesn't match, it may be off by one bit | 18:48 |
| wxl | where would that bit be? | 18:48 |
| bobsmith83 | right | 18:48 |
| wxl | if it's in some of the driver software.. | 18:48 |
| bobsmith83 | good point | 18:49 |
| wxl | i have honestly never heard of a legitimate problem that involved one half of the screen being messed up | 18:49 |
| bobsmith83 | yes, seems very strange indeed! | 18:49 |
| bobsmith83 | but if hashes were the problem, then maybe my copy of ubuntu-mate will still work | 18:50 |
| bobsmith83 | of corse, the livecd boots fine | 18:50 |
| wxl | right and that *SHOULD* be indicative of the fact that it would work when installed | 18:51 |
| wxl | however drivers are sometimes and issue | 18:51 |
| wxl | sometimes proprietary drivers are needed and they might be there on the live cd but require other steps to get going on the installed system | 18:51 |
| wxl | i mean we all try really hard to limit non-free software | 18:51 |
| bobsmith83 | yup... | 18:51 |
| bobsmith83 | well, you think i should try ubuntumate or debian image next? | 18:52 |
| wxl | well | 18:52 |
| wxl | i guess it depends on what you're looking for in terms of the final system :) | 18:53 |
| wxl | i would say that the goal of ubuntu is to sort of make debian easy | 18:53 |
| bobsmith83 | prefer to start with ubuntu and graduate to debian | 18:53 |
| wxl | also, to provide more updated software | 18:53 |
| wxl | i know lots of people who would have no problem even using slackware (that's how i got started compiling my own kernels) but prefer to use ubuntu | 18:54 |
| wxl | it's not "less of" an OS | 18:54 |
| bobsmith83 | ok, I'm going to try ubuntu now. takes some time, so I'll check back in laters. thanks again! | 18:54 |
| wxl | np | 18:55 |
| bobsmith83 | back! wxl- still here? | 20:06 |
| wxl | bobsmith83: rarely am i not ;) | 20:06 |
| bobsmith83 | great. well, ubuntu-mate installed fine! so, happy, for now. but this machine is a eeepc netbook, so will still be looking for something lighter weight. | 20:07 |
| bobsmith83 | maybe my lubuntu image is bad? | 20:07 |
| bobsmith83 | I will try downloading fresh copy and checksum | 20:08 |
| wxl | then i'd say give lubuntu a go again, but make sure to check the hashes (and "check disc for defects" at the grub screen) | 20:08 |
| wxl | note the hashes ensure that the iso downloaded with out errors | 20:09 |
| wxl | the other check ensures that the bit by bit copy to the installation media occurred without errors | 20:09 |
| wxl | so you kind of have to do both | 20:09 |
| bobsmith83 | hashes... ok. hope i can get it working. if not, do you think its a bug in lubuntu? should report? | 20:10 |
| cristianbu | can anyone help me, how i increase view of thumbnail size when uploading ? | 20:14 |
| bobsmith83 | well, thanks again wxl! | 20:15 |
| wxl | bobsmith83: if and only if you can replicate it and then i have some ideas still :) | 20:32 |
| bobsmith83 | ok. will c how it goes. maybe tomorrow. cheers! | 20:34 |
| jmft2 | Hi. On Lubuntu 17.10 here. I've noticed that the sudo command freezes up (doesn't even respond to Ctrl-C or Ctrl-Z) after I disable networking whilst connected to a wifi network. Without being able to sudo, it means I can't re-enable networking. This behaviour is not triggered if I disable and re-enable networking whilst not connected. | 22:16 |
| wxl | what are you trying to sudo? | 22:17 |
| jmft2 | Anything. Even 'sudo' by itself freezes. | 22:19 |
| wxl | strange | 22:19 |
| jmft2 | The answer proposed here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/401008/sudo-command-hangs didn't help, although I did notice that the /etc/hosts file didn't have my hostname under 127.0.0.1, only localhost. My hostname was under 127.0.1.1. | 22:19 |
| wxl | i've actually got localhost AND the hostname | 22:21 |
| wxl | the strace suggestion is a good one | 22:21 |
| jmft2 | I thought that's what you wanted | 22:22 |
| wxl | ? | 22:22 |
| jmft2 | I thought you wanted '127.0.0.1 localhost your_hostname' | 22:22 |
| wxl | i have: | 22:22 |
| wxl | 127.0.0.1 localhost | 22:22 |
| jmft2 | Whereas I had '127.0.0.1 localhost' and '127.0.1.1 hussar' | 22:22 |
| wxl | 127.0.0.1 hostname | 22:22 |
| wxl | where hostname != hostname XD | 22:23 |
| jmft2 | strace sudo doesn't hang, it exits with status 1. | 22:23 |
| wxl | i know thi sis weird | 22:27 |
| wxl | but sudo the strace | 22:27 |
| jius | anyone home? | 23:28 |
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