[02:28] windows host + VB 5.1.30 + Lu host 17.10 64 works without problems? [03:51] hello [03:53] I installed lubuntu on an eeepc 1000 something. screen working fine on boot, but then once desktop comes up, the left 3/4th of the screen is black and unusuable [03:53] any clues? [03:53] hard to troubleshoot when you cant see most of the screen [03:54] probably some graphics card problem, bobsmith83 [03:54] i'd start with hitting ctrl-alt-f1 and seeing if that displays across the whole screen [03:54] if so, that's a good indication [03:55] you can look through /var/log/{dmesg,syslog,Xorg.0.log} for more info on the errors [03:55] you can grep Xorg.0.log for EE and you'll get only the errors [03:55] you can do lspci -nnk [03:55] oops [03:55] yeah, you lost me on the last few lines [03:56] in terminal: [03:56] what does ctrl-alt-f1 do? [03:56] takes you to a "virtual terminal" [03:57] OK, I'll start there. I'm going to get it up and running soon, then will be back here soon. thanks for a starting point... [03:59] I really need a crash course on linux terminal but I can't even get there right now... [04:00] seems like a graphics card driver/firmware problem to me, however, it also works perfactly when booting from a live disk image [04:02] you can't ctrl-alt-f1? [04:25] ok, tried control-alt-f2 and the little bit of screen on the right went black too, jubberish across, but still an invisable line. what does this tell me? [04:25] yikes that's strange but tends to suggest something deeper is wrong :( [04:26] you might want to try to boot the installation image again and ensure it doesn't have the same issue [04:27] thanks wxl. but how do i go about fixing it? since I cant use the screen past the bios? try another distro? I reinstalled lubuntu 3x already. as i said, it works perfact from the live cd [04:27] i'd double check that, bobsmith83 [04:29] sorry, double check what? [04:29] that the live cd still behaves correctly [04:29] i'm inclined to believe you have some sort of hardware failure [04:30] i know, right? seems like hardware, but no way- bios screen perfact, and live cd perfact display. must be video driver/firmware whatever something missing link [04:31] but have you checked this since you saw the problem? [04:32] yes, multiple times, really. i see the bios screen everytime I boot. and I've tried the live cd multiple times too, works fine. [04:32] ok [04:33] i assume you're not currently on that computer? [04:33] I'm going to try another distro right quick, see what happens. should i put in debian, trisquel, or mint? [04:33] well mint is essentially a modified ubuntu, so that might be a good way to go [04:33] debian is upstream to ubuntu [04:34] i think trisquel will just make matters worse XD [04:34] all the iso's i grabbed latest downloads in the past few days. just getting started on gnu linux [04:34] agreed re trisquel [04:43] mint coming up fine on live disk... [04:44] mint too damn close to windows! yuck! [04:50] installing... this is exciting, i know... [04:56] partition errors: "the test of the file system with type ext4 in partition #1 of scsi2 (0,0,0) (sda) found uncorrected errors. [04:56] what? [04:59] any suggestions? === mpmc_znc is now known as mpmc [15:42] MOSE [17:56] good morning. [17:59] noob question: trying to format hdd in "disks" utility. I get error: "error wiping device: command-line 'wipefs -a "/dev/sda" exited with non-zero exit status 1: wipefs: error: /dev/sda: probing initialization failed: device or resource busy" [17:59] i did some searching around and found LOTS of different methods to format disk, but dont know which other to try [18:00] bobsmith83: what device are you trying to format [18:00] a USB drive? a hdd? a potato? [18:01] hdd [18:02] Eh [18:02] Are you using a livecd? [18:02] yes [18:02] Is it mounted? [18:02] ? [18:02] Lol [18:03] Try unmount /dev/sda [18:03] err, sorry, umount /dev/sda [18:03] ok... [18:03] device not mounted [18:04] shall I mount her? [18:05] No sir. [18:06] Try using Gparted. [18:06] Download and install it [18:06] its installed. comes with lubuntu already [18:07] then use it [18:07] ok, i dont see a format option. where do i start? [18:13] bobsmith83: https://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers/2009/gparted-format-to.jpg [18:15] ok... [18:17] i've got a /dev/sda5 partition called linux-swap. shall i select "SWAPOFF?" I have two main partitions, both I formatted, but i still get that error when i try to format in "disks" utility [18:17] I'd like to delete the partitions and start fresh [18:18] sorry for this boring noob question! [18:24] sudu wipefs -a /dev/sda gives error: "probing initialization failed: device or resource busy" [18:24] what does that mean? and how to fix? [18:24] sudo rather... typo [18:27] bobsmith83: it means it's currently in use. [18:28] doesn't seem right. i'm running from live cd, not hdd [18:29] live cd use any swap patrition. if can find it [18:30] bobsmith83: what does mount /dev/sda /media say [18:33] says: already mounted or mount point busy! [18:34] mount | nc termbin.com 9999 [18:36] what does that do? translation? [18:37] just use pastebinit, bobsmith83 [18:38] ? [18:38] although that is cute [18:38] mount | pastebinit [18:38] in both cases, it takes the output of mount and puts it on a public pastebin [18:39] only assholes use pastebinit [18:39] the termbin option uses netcat, which is a utility you likely have, but the problem is that it uses a non standard port which some firewalls (esp. corporate will block) [18:39] bmatt: that language is a violation of the IRC guidelines. don't do it again. [18:39] that's highly speculative [18:39] um [18:39] ban me? [18:39] i don't really give a shit if i'm here to help people or not [18:39] ;) [18:40] terrible community to be banned for words you hear on TV every day. but okay [18:40] bmatt: if you insist on being stubborn, please leave [18:40] nah, you can /ignore me or fuck off. that's pretty easy [18:40] don't give me your toltalitarian bullshit ideology, fella. [18:40] i was having a conversation with bobsmith83. so why don't you fuck off? [18:41] bmatt: well then a kickban it is. you can go to #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss it more and/or appeal [18:41] i don't give a shit. [18:41] wxl, thanks for your help last night too. I got mint running fine, but then I tried to install lubuntu again [18:41] fuck you and your garbage channel if you wanna ban people for cursing. [18:42] you need to learn to be a bit more polite and a little less aggressive [18:42] "DONT DO IT AGAIN" -- fuck you. what is this, high school? are you the principal? go fuck yourself, buddy. [18:44] anyways bobsmith83 did that make sense? [18:45] now, I'm trying to wipe the hdd and start fresh. I dont want mint. I was going to try ubuntu-mate next in hopes that it doesnt have the same display driver problem [18:45] unfortunately the core drivers are part of the kernel, which is part of the core that all ubuntu flavors share [18:45] wxl, which part- booting that loose cannon? [18:45] yes [18:46] ok, so ubuntu-mate probably not going to work. How about debian? [18:46] bobsmith83: no about how to get us the contents of mount which seems to be what bmatt was asking for [18:46] debian is the upstream so ubuntu so it shouldn't be much different [18:46] but first: did mint work fine? [18:46] yeah, but mint is debian base too, right? [18:47] well the stream of software goes like this: [18:47] mint was fine. [18:47] debian -> ubuntu -> mint [18:47] so let's ask another question: did you check the hashes of the iso when you downloaded lubuntu? [18:48] i didnt check hashes, but i have installed that image on two or three other machines without problem [18:48] well think about this: [18:48] if the hash doesn't match, it may be off by one bit [18:48] where would that bit be? [18:48] right [18:48] if it's in some of the driver software.. [18:49] good point [18:49] i have honestly never heard of a legitimate problem that involved one half of the screen being messed up [18:49] yes, seems very strange indeed! [18:50] but if hashes were the problem, then maybe my copy of ubuntu-mate will still work [18:50] of corse, the livecd boots fine [18:51] right and that *SHOULD* be indicative of the fact that it would work when installed [18:51] however drivers are sometimes and issue [18:51] sometimes proprietary drivers are needed and they might be there on the live cd but require other steps to get going on the installed system [18:51] i mean we all try really hard to limit non-free software [18:51] yup... [18:52] well, you think i should try ubuntumate or debian image next? [18:52] well [18:53] i guess it depends on what you're looking for in terms of the final system :) [18:53] i would say that the goal of ubuntu is to sort of make debian easy [18:53] prefer to start with ubuntu and graduate to debian [18:53] also, to provide more updated software [18:54] i know lots of people who would have no problem even using slackware (that's how i got started compiling my own kernels) but prefer to use ubuntu [18:54] it's not "less of" an OS [18:54] ok, I'm going to try ubuntu now. takes some time, so I'll check back in laters. thanks again! [18:55] np [20:06] back! wxl- still here? [20:06] bobsmith83: rarely am i not ;) [20:07] great. well, ubuntu-mate installed fine! so, happy, for now. but this machine is a eeepc netbook, so will still be looking for something lighter weight. [20:07] maybe my lubuntu image is bad? [20:08] I will try downloading fresh copy and checksum [20:08] then i'd say give lubuntu a go again, but make sure to check the hashes (and "check disc for defects" at the grub screen) [20:09] note the hashes ensure that the iso downloaded with out errors [20:09] the other check ensures that the bit by bit copy to the installation media occurred without errors [20:09] so you kind of have to do both [20:10] hashes... ok. hope i can get it working. if not, do you think its a bug in lubuntu? should report? [20:14] can anyone help me, how i increase view of thumbnail size when uploading ? [20:15] well, thanks again wxl! [20:32] bobsmith83: if and only if you can replicate it and then i have some ideas still :) [20:34] ok. will c how it goes. maybe tomorrow. cheers! [22:16] Hi. On Lubuntu 17.10 here. I've noticed that the sudo command freezes up (doesn't even respond to Ctrl-C or Ctrl-Z) after I disable networking whilst connected to a wifi network. Without being able to sudo, it means I can't re-enable networking. This behaviour is not triggered if I disable and re-enable networking whilst not connected. [22:17] what are you trying to sudo? [22:19] Anything. Even 'sudo' by itself freezes. [22:19] strange [22:19] The answer proposed here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/401008/sudo-command-hangs didn't help, although I did notice that the /etc/hosts file didn't have my hostname under 127.0.0.1, only localhost. My hostname was under 127.0.1.1. [22:21] i've actually got localhost AND the hostname [22:21] the strace suggestion is a good one [22:22] I thought that's what you wanted [22:22] ? [22:22] I thought you wanted '127.0.0.1 localhost your_hostname' [22:22] i have: [22:22] 127.0.0.1 localhost [22:22] Whereas I had '127.0.0.1 localhost' and '127.0.1.1 hussar' [22:22] 127.0.0.1 hostname [22:23] where hostname != hostname XD [22:23] strace sudo doesn't hang, it exits with status 1. [22:27] i know thi sis weird [22:27] but sudo the strace [23:28] anyone home?