[02:28] <qwererfrrthyty> windows host + VB 5.1.30 + Lu host 17.10 64 works without problems?
[03:51] <bobsmith83> hello
[03:53] <bobsmith83> I installed lubuntu on an eeepc 1000 something.  screen working fine on boot, but then once desktop comes up, the left 3/4th of the screen is black and unusuable
[03:53] <bobsmith83> any clues?
[03:53] <bobsmith83> hard to troubleshoot when you cant see most of the screen
[03:54] <wxl> probably some graphics card problem, bobsmith83
[03:54] <wxl> i'd start with hitting ctrl-alt-f1 and seeing if that displays across the whole screen
[03:54] <wxl> if so, that's a good indication
[03:55] <wxl> you can look through /var/log/{dmesg,syslog,Xorg.0.log} for more info on the errors
[03:55] <wxl> you can grep Xorg.0.log for EE and you'll get only the errors
[03:55] <wxl> you can do lspci -nnk
[03:55] <wxl> oops
[03:55] <bobsmith83> yeah, you lost me on the last few lines
[03:56] <wxl> in terminal:
[03:56] <bobsmith83> what does ctrl-alt-f1 do?
[03:56] <wxl> takes you to a "virtual terminal"
[03:57] <bobsmith83> OK, I'll start there.  I'm going to get it up and running soon, then will be back here soon.  thanks for a starting point...
[03:59] <bobsmith83> I really need a crash course on linux terminal but I can't even get there right now...
[04:00] <bobsmith83> seems like a graphics card driver/firmware problem to me, however, it also works perfactly when booting from a live disk image
[04:02] <wxl> you can't ctrl-alt-f1?
[04:25] <bobsmith83> ok, tried control-alt-f2 and the little bit of screen on the right went black too, jubberish across, but still an invisable line.  what does this tell me?
[04:25] <wxl> yikes that's strange but tends to suggest something deeper is wrong :(
[04:26] <wxl> you might want to try to boot the installation image again and ensure it doesn't have the same issue
[04:27] <bobsmith83> thanks wxl.  but how do i go about fixing it? since I cant use the screen past the bios? try another distro? I reinstalled lubuntu 3x already.  as i said, it works perfact from the live cd
[04:27] <wxl> i'd double check that, bobsmith83
[04:29] <bobsmith83> sorry, double check what?
[04:29] <wxl> that the live cd still behaves correctly
[04:29] <wxl> i'm inclined to believe you have some sort of hardware failure
[04:30] <bobsmith83> i know, right? seems like hardware, but no way- bios screen perfact, and live cd perfact display.  must be video driver/firmware whatever something missing link
[04:31] <wxl> but have you checked this since you saw the problem?
[04:32] <bobsmith83> yes, multiple times, really.  i see the bios screen everytime I boot.  and I've tried the live cd multiple times too, works fine.
[04:32] <wxl> ok
[04:33] <wxl> i assume you're not currently on that computer?
[04:33] <bobsmith83> I'm going to try another distro right quick, see what happens.  should i put in debian, trisquel, or mint?
[04:33] <wxl> well mint is essentially a modified ubuntu, so that might be a good way to go
[04:33] <wxl> debian is upstream to ubuntu
[04:34] <wxl> i think trisquel will just make matters worse XD
[04:34] <bobsmith83> all the iso's i grabbed latest downloads in the past few days.  just getting started on gnu linux
[04:34] <bobsmith83> agreed re trisquel
[04:43] <bobsmith83> mint coming up fine on live disk...
[04:44] <bobsmith83> mint too damn close to windows! yuck!
[04:50] <bobsmith83> installing...  this is exciting, i know...
[04:56] <bobsmith83> partition errors:  "the test of the file system with type ext4 in partition #1 of scsi2 (0,0,0) (sda) found  uncorrected errors.
[04:56] <bobsmith83> what?
[04:59] <bobsmith83> any suggestions?
[15:42] <bmatt> MOSE
[17:56] <bobsmith83> good morning.
[17:59] <bobsmith83> noob question:  trying to format hdd in "disks" utility.  I get error: "error wiping device: command-line 'wipefs -a "/dev/sda" exited with non-zero exit status 1: wipefs: error: /dev/sda: probing initialization failed: device or resource busy"
[17:59] <bobsmith83> i did some searching around and found LOTS of different methods to format disk, but dont know which other to try
[18:00] <bmatt> bobsmith83: what device are you trying to format
[18:00] <bmatt> a USB drive? a hdd? a potato?
[18:01] <bobsmith83> hdd
[18:02] <bmatt> Eh
[18:02] <bmatt> Are you using a livecd?
[18:02] <bobsmith83> yes
[18:02] <bmatt> Is it mounted?
[18:02] <bobsmith83> ?
[18:02] <bmatt> Lol
[18:03] <bmatt> Try unmount /dev/sda
[18:03] <bmatt> err, sorry, umount /dev/sda
[18:03] <bobsmith83> ok...
[18:03] <bobsmith83> device not mounted
[18:04] <bobsmith83> shall I mount her?
[18:05] <bmatt> No sir.
[18:06] <bmatt> Try using Gparted.
[18:06] <bmatt> Download and install it
[18:06] <bobsmith83> its installed.  comes with lubuntu already
[18:07] <bmatt> then use it
[18:07] <bobsmith83> ok, i dont see a format option.  where do i start?
[18:13] <JohnDoe_71Rus> bobsmith83: https://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers/2009/gparted-format-to.jpg
[18:15] <bobsmith83> ok...
[18:17] <bobsmith83> i've got a /dev/sda5 partition called linux-swap.  shall i select "SWAPOFF?" I have two main partitions, both I formatted, but i still get that error when i try to format in "disks" utility
[18:17] <bobsmith83> I'd like to delete the partitions and start fresh
[18:18] <bobsmith83> sorry for this boring noob question!
[18:24] <bobsmith83> sudu wipefs -a /dev/sda gives error: "probing initialization failed: device or resource busy"
[18:24] <bobsmith83> what does that mean? and how to fix?
[18:24] <bobsmith83> sudo rather... typo
[18:27] <bmatt> bobsmith83: it means it's currently in use.
[18:28] <bobsmith83> doesn't seem right.  i'm running from live cd, not hdd
[18:29] <JohnDoe_71Rus> live cd use any swap patrition. if can find it
[18:30] <bmatt> bobsmith83: what does mount /dev/sda /media say
[18:33] <bobsmith83> says: already mounted or mount point busy!
[18:34] <bmatt> mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:36] <bobsmith83> what does that do? translation?
[18:37] <wxl> just use pastebinit, bobsmith83
[18:38] <bobsmith83> ?
[18:38] <wxl> although that is cute
[18:38] <wxl> mount | pastebinit
[18:38] <wxl> in both cases, it takes the output of mount and puts it on a public pastebin
[18:39] <bmatt> only assholes use pastebinit
[18:39] <wxl> the termbin option uses netcat, which is a utility you likely have, but the problem is that it uses a non standard port which some firewalls (esp. corporate will block)
[18:39] <wxl> bmatt: that language is a violation of the IRC guidelines. don't do it again.
[18:39] <bmatt> that's highly speculative
[18:39] <bmatt> um
[18:39] <bmatt> ban me?
[18:39] <bmatt> i don't really give a shit if i'm here to help people or not
[18:39] <bmatt> ;)
[18:40] <bmatt> terrible community to be banned for words you hear on TV every day. but okay
[18:40] <wxl> bmatt: if you insist on being stubborn, please leave
[18:40] <bmatt> nah, you can /ignore me or fuck off. that's pretty easy
[18:40] <bmatt> don't give me your toltalitarian bullshit ideology, fella.
[18:40] <bmatt> i was having a conversation with bobsmith83. so why don't you fuck off?
[18:41] <wxl> bmatt: well then a kickban it is. you can go to #ubuntu-ops if you wish to discuss it more and/or appeal
[18:41] <bmatt> i don't give a shit.
[18:41] <bobsmith83> wxl, thanks for your help last night too. I got mint running fine, but then I tried to install lubuntu again
[18:41] <bmatt> fuck you and your garbage channel if you wanna ban people for cursing.
[18:42] <bmatt> you need to learn to be a bit more polite and a little less aggressive
[18:42] <bmatt> "DONT DO IT AGAIN" -- fuck you. what is this, high school? are you the principal? go fuck yourself, buddy.
[18:44] <wxl> anyways bobsmith83 did that make sense?
[18:45] <bobsmith83> now, I'm trying to wipe the hdd and start fresh.  I dont want mint.  I was going to try ubuntu-mate next in hopes that it doesnt have the same display driver problem
[18:45] <wxl> unfortunately the core drivers are part of the kernel, which is part of the core that all ubuntu flavors share
[18:45] <bobsmith83> wxl, which part- booting that loose cannon?
[18:45] <bobsmith83> yes
[18:46] <bobsmith83> ok, so ubuntu-mate probably not going to work.  How about debian?
[18:46] <wxl> bobsmith83: no about how to get us the contents of mount which seems to be what bmatt was asking for
[18:46] <wxl> debian is the upstream so ubuntu so it shouldn't be much different
[18:46] <wxl> but first: did mint work fine?
[18:46] <bobsmith83> yeah, but mint is debian base too, right?
[18:47] <wxl> well the stream of software goes like this:
[18:47] <bobsmith83> mint was fine.
[18:47] <wxl> debian -> ubuntu -> mint
[18:47] <wxl> so let's ask another question: did you check the hashes of the iso when you downloaded lubuntu?
[18:48] <bobsmith83> i didnt check hashes, but i have installed that image on two or three other machines without problem
[18:48] <wxl> well think about this:
[18:48] <wxl> if the hash doesn't match, it may be off by one bit
[18:48] <wxl> where would that bit be?
[18:48] <bobsmith83> right
[18:48] <wxl> if it's in some of the driver software..
[18:49] <bobsmith83> good point
[18:49] <wxl> i have honestly never heard of a legitimate problem that involved one half of the screen being messed up
[18:49] <bobsmith83> yes, seems very strange indeed!
[18:50] <bobsmith83> but if hashes were the problem, then maybe my copy of ubuntu-mate will still work
[18:50] <bobsmith83> of corse, the livecd boots fine
[18:51] <wxl> right and that *SHOULD* be indicative of the fact that it would work when installed
[18:51] <wxl> however drivers are sometimes and issue
[18:51] <wxl> sometimes proprietary drivers are needed and they might be there on the live cd but require other steps to get going on the installed system
[18:51] <wxl> i mean we all try really hard to limit non-free software
[18:51] <bobsmith83> yup...
[18:52] <bobsmith83> well, you think i should try ubuntumate or debian image next?
[18:52] <wxl> well
[18:53] <wxl> i guess it depends on what you're looking for in terms of the final system :)
[18:53] <wxl> i would say that the goal of ubuntu is to sort of make debian easy
[18:53] <bobsmith83> prefer to start with ubuntu and graduate to debian
[18:53] <wxl> also, to provide more updated software
[18:54] <wxl> i know lots of people who would have no problem even using slackware (that's how i got started compiling my own kernels) but prefer to use ubuntu
[18:54] <wxl> it's not "less of" an OS
[18:54] <bobsmith83> ok, I'm going to try ubuntu now.  takes some time, so I'll check back in laters.  thanks again!
[18:55] <wxl> np
[20:06] <bobsmith83> back! wxl- still here?
[20:06] <wxl> bobsmith83: rarely am i not ;)
[20:07] <bobsmith83> great.  well, ubuntu-mate installed fine!  so, happy, for now.  but this machine is a eeepc netbook, so will still be looking for something lighter weight.
[20:07] <bobsmith83> maybe my lubuntu image is bad?
[20:08] <bobsmith83> I will try downloading fresh copy and checksum
[20:08] <wxl> then i'd say give lubuntu a go again, but make sure to check the hashes (and "check disc for defects" at the grub screen)
[20:09] <wxl> note the hashes ensure that the iso downloaded with out errors
[20:09] <wxl> the other check ensures that the bit by bit copy to the installation media occurred without errors
[20:09] <wxl> so you kind of have to do both
[20:10] <bobsmith83> hashes... ok.  hope i can get it working.  if not, do you think its a bug in lubuntu? should report?
[20:14] <cristianbu> can anyone help me, how i increase view of thumbnail size when uploading ?
[20:15] <bobsmith83> well, thanks again wxl!
[20:32] <wxl> bobsmith83: if and only if you can replicate it and then i have some ideas still :)
[20:34] <bobsmith83> ok.  will c how it goes.  maybe tomorrow.  cheers!
[22:16] <jmft2> Hi. On Lubuntu 17.10 here. I've noticed that the sudo command freezes up (doesn't even respond to Ctrl-C or Ctrl-Z) after I disable networking whilst connected to a wifi network. Without being able to sudo, it means I can't re-enable networking. This behaviour is not triggered if I disable and re-enable networking whilst not connected.
[22:17] <wxl> what are you trying to sudo?
[22:19] <jmft2> Anything. Even 'sudo' by itself freezes.
[22:19] <wxl> strange
[22:19] <jmft2> The answer proposed here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/401008/sudo-command-hangs didn't help, although I did notice that the /etc/hosts file didn't have my hostname under 127.0.0.1, only localhost. My hostname was under 127.0.1.1.
[22:21] <wxl> i've actually got localhost AND the hostname
[22:21] <wxl> the strace suggestion is a good one
[22:22] <jmft2> I thought that's what you wanted
[22:22] <wxl> ?
[22:22] <jmft2> I thought you wanted '127.0.0.1 localhost your_hostname'
[22:22] <wxl> i have:
[22:22] <wxl> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[22:22] <jmft2> Whereas I had '127.0.0.1 localhost' and '127.0.1.1 hussar'
[22:22] <wxl> 127.0.0.1 hostname
[22:23] <wxl> where hostname != hostname XD
[22:23] <jmft2> strace sudo doesn't hang, it exits with status 1.
[22:27] <wxl> i know thi sis weird
[22:27] <wxl> but sudo the strace
[23:28] <jius> anyone home?