[01:21] <nicomachus> !info firefox
[01:21] <daftykins> slow bot? :>
[01:21] <nicomachus> idk, is 57 in the repos yet? I assume not
[01:23] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: And some mirors a real way behind too :(
[01:24] <nicomachus> I was about to install from a tar... figured I'd check first.
[01:28] <nicomachus> no android update yet, either, but it looks like a few of the features are going to be a couple versions behind on android
[01:57] <nicomachus> looks like it should hit the repos in 0-2 days.
[01:57] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[02:03] <nicomachus> ok... this is nice.
[02:55] <nicomachus> !info wmctrl
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[05:38] <oerheks> no no, goodnight lotuspsychje
[05:38] <oerheks> it is still dark outside ..
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> dont tell me your still awake oerheks
[05:40] <oerheks> jups ..
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> uh oh
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> the good side is you sucked up a lotta information tonight :p
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic bionic
[07:00] <Bashing-om> 'Nuff Good nite \o
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/11/librem-5-phone-ringtone-contest-winners
[07:16] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:20] <ducasse> good morning, all
[07:20] <ducasse> \o lordievader, lotuspsychje
[07:21] <lordievader> Hey ducasse (IRC)
[07:21] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje (IRC)
[07:22] <ducasse> how are you, lordievader?
[07:22] <lordievader> Doing good here :)
[07:23] <ducasse> not as cold today here :)
[07:37] <lordievader> Thats good :)
[07:41] <ducasse> how is it in .nl - any snow yet?
[07:56] <oerheks> send us snow, please
[08:02] <ducasse> you are welcome to come here and pick up as much as you want, oerheks
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> bbl work guys
[08:11] <oerheks> ducasse, oke, make some cookies, i'll be there in a ziffy
[08:12] <ducasse> now you've even got a bike to bring it back with!
[08:28] <oerheks> Monday, when i get new tyres, i'll make a pic
[08:29] <lordievader> ducasse (IRC): Keep your snow, we don't want it.
[08:29] <lordievader> Cold enough here
[08:29]  * lordievader likes spring, not too hot not too cold
[08:30]  * oerheks shakes his head, no cookies for lordievader 
[08:31] <lordievader> :(
[08:31] <lordievader> But I like cookies!
[08:33] <ducasse> i agree with you lordievader, spring is a good time. i can't deal with serious heat
[08:33] <ducasse> why are you so fond of snow, oerheks?
[08:34] <oerheks> I am not, Drabber likes it
[08:34] <oerheks> .. and cookies, but sugar is bad for him, not for me \0/
[08:34] <oerheks> Oneplus removing backdoor, hmmm
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:06] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj (IRC)
[13:06] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Hi lordievader, fine here, and you?
[13:08] <lordievader> Doing good here
[19:00] <nicomachus> !info firefox
[19:03] <nicomachus> nacc: any updates on when it should hit the repos?
[19:03] <nicomachus> last night I was seeing "0-2 days"
[19:04] <nacc> nicomachus: it builds in the security ppa and gets copied over. I don't see it in proposed yet, but nont sure if that happens for ff
[19:04] <nicomachus> I just installed the firefox-next ppa
[19:05] <nicomachus> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[19:05] <nacc> nicomachus: yeah, that's the thign to do in the meanwhile
[19:07] <daftykins> ooh version chasers :P
[19:17] <Bashing-om> Rainy Wed here - good to go to irc :)
[19:57] <nicomachus> Bashing-om: first day without rain in almost a week here
[19:58] <daftykins> O_O
[19:59] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Welcome the Sun Shine - same was here and had 2 days of sun .. wonderfull :)
[20:03] <nicomachus> this guy trying to use tv.xfinity.com is interesting
[20:03] <nicomachus> they completely block all linux OS's
[20:04] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Yeah .. watching too to see how it unfolds .
[20:05] <nicomachus> I'm installing IE in wine right now
[20:06] <nicomachus> errr... maybe not
[20:06] <Bashing-om> nicomachus: Glad that my use cases are - simple - no Windows for me :)
[20:07] <daftykins> why not just install a user agent switcher?
[20:08] <Bashing-om> daftykins: OP tryed too .. no workie still .
[20:09] <daftykins> i saw a UK satellite provider thats' service truly is IE only the other day - no way around that one
[20:09] <nicomachus> yea, UA switch didn't work
[20:10] <Bashing-om> daftykins: nicomachus "  done works on archlinux but you need pipelight " .
[20:11] <nicomachus> saw that. I'm skeptical.
[20:11] <nicomachus> installing Windows version of Firefox in wine now.
[20:12] <Bashing-om> andd had TJ-'s interest ./. see where this leads :)
[20:21] <daftykins> there's a guy in #ubuntu-uk who is being forced to enable and permit SSHv1 for work purposes and is having issues on one host despite identical config to another working host, if anyone fancies helping
[20:24] <daftykins> any way to find out sshd's compile options?
[20:36] <TJ-> !info ssh1 | daftykins
[20:36] <TJ-> grrrr
[20:37] <TJ-> !info ssh1 xenial | daftykins
[20:37] <TJ-> Grrr grrr
[20:37] <nicomachus> lol
[20:38] <TJ-> !info openssh-client-ssh1 xenial | daftykins
[20:38] <TJ-> bingo!
[20:38] <daftykins> hmm i wonder which distros he's dealing with
[20:38] <TJ-> daftykins: I use that to access some older embedded devices (CDU/UPS control boards)
[20:38] <TJ-> I assumed Ubuntu!
[20:39] <daftykins> well i think it is on one of them
[20:39] <daftykins> i'll suggest it :>
[20:40] <TJ-> I also have to use separate ~/.ssh/config files to make use of shorter DH keys (ssh2 doesn't accept the smaller values or some ciphers/hashes that need enabling for the ssh1 devices)
[20:41] <daftykins> mmm he reckons he's generated them, but it's CentOS d'aww
[20:41] <TJ-> not a problem generating them; it's using them in some builds of openssh
[20:42] <TJ-> shorter lengths can leave the diffie-hellman key exchange weak
[20:42] <TJ-> but older devices don't support longer key lengths
[20:42] <daftykins> poor guy is trapped in the office until he wins!
[20:42] <TJ-> tell him to install an Ubuntu VM :)
[20:42] <TJ-> or a container
[20:42] <daftykins> sounds like it's bound by a client of theirs
[20:43] <TJ-> I use containers for these things to compartmentalise them from my regular configs. makes things easily portable; just have to ensure the same LAN IP follows the container if it moves hosts
[20:43] <TJ-> otherwise the authorized_keys needs updating
[21:04]  * nicomachus can't decide if dedze in #ubuntu is trolling or dumb
[21:05] <nicomachus> literally every time someone says "am I being hacked?!?!?!11" I can't tell if trolling or dumb.
[21:05] <daftykins> :)
[21:06] <daftykins> i certainly never know why they think anyone cares about them :>
[21:16] <TJ-> of course you're being hacked! Your DNA is constantly evolving
[21:40] <leftyfb> nicomachus: I'm not so sure the 2 aren't mutually exclusive to begin with anyway :)
[21:56] <daftykins> :D