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MooDoohowdy all08:06
diploMorning all09:11
SuperMattahoy me hearties!09:15
MooDoohowdy howdy09:15
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foobarryupgrading my firefox ..09:31
foobarryi have noticed a difference recently. since for a long time 50 tabs was the max i could use09:32
Laneynot looking forward to losing vimperator09:34
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:34
MooDoojust upgraded my firefox, well impressed so far, they were right it's a lot faster09:36
foobarrygonna buy a nosebag for disgusting eater in the office09:40
foobarryhave 126 tabs running in my ff 57..lets see how it goes09:41
TwistedLucidityARG! FF 57 has killed some of the most important addons! FireGestures is no more. :-(09:43
foobarryi only really have evernote clipper and ublock09:43
TwistedLucidityI've been using gestures for years, can live without it09:44
TwistedLucidityYay! FoxyGestures is the new FireGestures.09:44
foobarryhttps://bookmarkos.com anyone tried thsi?09:47
foobarrydon't like the square tabs09:56
foobarryin ff09:56
TwistedLucidityThat's the Windows way. You can have anything you like, so long as it is square and flat09:58
foobarrywhats windows?09:59
TwistedLucidityI actually dislike this whole "flat" trend. It can make hard to see where one window/frame/section/thing starts and ends.09:59
TwistedLucidityfoobarry: Windows is the defactor industry stanard. Where it leads, you will follow. OBEY THE BEAST OF REDMOND!09:59
TwistedLucidity*de facto09:59
TwistedLucidityThe "hidden" scroll bars in KDE drive me up the wall. The float over text meaning it can be hard to select text under them.10:00
TwistedLuciditySo FF57 follows the MS style guide even in GNBU/Linux?10:00
diploTwistedLucidity: You won points last nigt for luci program, thank you :)10:03
TwistedLuciditydiplo: Huzzah! Glad it worked10:03
TwistedLucidityYeah, the separate the front-end and back-end. Which is kinda nice, when one remembers....10:04
diploheh yep defo, I'd never used it before, searched for ages for the package, my google foo sucked10:07
diploGoing to try upgrading to lete tonight probably10:07
SuperMattI'm looking forward to running the updates on my machines, so I can remove my manually installed copy of ff5710:27
TwistedLucidityGadzooks! FF57 and landed in KDE Neon.11:20
diddledanI've switched my default browser to ff57 to see if I can live with it12:39
TwistedLucidityInstall FoxyGestures. <3 me some gesturey goodness12:43
m0nkey_diddledan: how are you liking 57?13:22
diddledanpretty nice13:22
SuperMattI've been using it since it was in nightly, and it's so fast it bought my crummy laptop back to life13:23
m0nkey_:)13:23
m0nkey_Don't have it on the work laptop yet as it's running ESR13:24
m0nkey_but i do have it in a VM. even in the VM it's damn fast13:24
m0nkey_fater than what 56 was with only 2GB RAM13:24
SuperMattabsolutely13:29
SuperMattand container tabs are a thing of beauty13:29
foobarrywhat are container tabs?13:30
SuperMattessentially they're "containers" which have different cookies13:32
SuperMattmeaning you can be logged in to the same site multiple times13:32
SuperMattor you can do what I do13:32
foobarryoh tahts nice13:32
SuperMattI'm logged in to facebook and google in my "personal" container tab, but browse the rest of the web in the "default" container tab13:33
SuperMattThis means that sites don't know I'm logged in to facebook13:33
SuperMattIt's different to private in that the cookies are still remembered13:33
m0nkey_hmm. where do i find this container tabs feature?13:50
m0nkey_nvm. found it13:54
SuperMattcontainer tabs are the killer feature which will keep me with Firefox, unless Chrome can do it and more13:56
m0nkey_I'm totally going to start using this.14:04
SuperMattIt's so awesome, right?14:08
SuperMattreally it's the feature that FF should be pushing above all else in this release14:09
diddledanyou didn't tell us where you found it though14:13
diddledanplease think about those of us that were waiting for the answer and didn't ask because you did14:13
SuperMatthttps://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/14:20
diploJust installed this myself, trying to see how it works14:49
m0nkey_diddledan: google it :P15:14
awilkinsOooh, that's shiny15:59
* awilkins creates containers for each Amazon account15:59
awilkinsAWS MASTEH15:59
daftykinsdiddledan: i killed another drive today, it had an old 12.04.5 install on it so i dd zero filled it from the booted OS :D got to watch the journal fail and be disabled21:38
daftykinsnah i jest, it had 24 bad sectors before i started21:39
* zmoylan-samj3 remembers the good old days when you had to type ib the supplied list of bad sectors to novell before it would prepare the drive :-)21:41
daftykinscrikey21:41
zmoylan-samj3cheaper drives had long long lists... my boss was cheap...21:42
daftykinsthey provided you with the manufacturer-known bad sectors and you had to avoid them by hand? ugh they just got into the firmware eventually21:42
daftykinsP-list and G-list, production and grown21:42
zmoylan-samj3this was before ide with controllers mounted to the drive esdi, rll drives21:43
daftykinsah yeah, so the OS was talking directly to the motor - or was there still something between?21:43
zmoylan-samj3duct tape and hope :-)21:44
daftykinserr mobo side controller would exist surely21:44
zmoylan-samj3massive expansion card with 2 cables iirc for esdi to talje to drive obe for data, one for motor control21:45
daftykinsO_O21:45
zmoylan-samj3i once made the mistake of wiring one up correctly and ruined 3 days plus weekends of novell preparing the drive21:46
zmoylan-samj3it was meant to be wired incorrectly, silly me21:46
zmoylan-samj3now it's all hot swap raid with your namby pamby wishy washy cloud backup... :-)21:48
daftykins:D21:50
zmoylan-samj3and the old timer at that time complained about us sending drive back... in his day they'd send an engineer to repair it on site21:51
zmoylan-samj3or attempt to. multimeter to check the boards, desolder and replace if that was problem21:51
daftykinshahaha, how big were those drives then, still fill a hamster cage?21:51
zmoylan-samj35mb drive for cpm computer was full height. think 2 5.25! bays filled with one drive21:52
daftykinsah yeah21:53
zmoylan-samj3we used them as door stops. they were indestructible21:53
zmoylan-samj3should have kept one to make a sledgehammer...21:53
zmoylan-samj310mb were 3 years later and half height. so size of cd rom drive21:53
daftykinscor - and now here's me tossing dead multi terabyte ones21:55
zmoylan-samj3and i remember a cpm machine brought in with a sound card... music files were midi as no space for real audio21:56
daftykinshaha :D i still remember having to sellotape in the RAM on the creative labs AWE3221:57
zmoylan-samj3sir clive and his blu tack salute you o>21:57
zmoylan-samj3about 4pb contains the library of congress... a.c.clarke said mid century... we're getting there21:59
daftykinsa clients house was so hotly heated today, my Yorkie melted!22:37
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zmoylan-samj3i seem to remember in wwii hersheys in america made a bar that xould be carried in pocket in tropucal climea without melting... of course even by american chocolate standards it wasn't nice22:57
daftykins:D22:57
zmoylan-samj3american dwarf bread... :-P22:59

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