[08:06] howdy all [09:11] Morning all [09:15] ahoy me hearties! [09:15] howdy howdy === sproctor is now known as scimon [09:31] upgrading my firefox .. [09:32] i have noticed a difference recently. since for a long time 50 tabs was the max i could use [09:34] not looking forward to losing vimperator [09:34] morning boys and girls. [09:36] just upgraded my firefox, well impressed so far, they were right it's a lot faster [09:40] gonna buy a nosebag for disgusting eater in the office [09:41] have 126 tabs running in my ff 57..lets see how it goes [09:43] ARG! FF 57 has killed some of the most important addons! FireGestures is no more. :-( [09:43] i only really have evernote clipper and ublock [09:44] I've been using gestures for years, can live without it [09:44] Yay! FoxyGestures is the new FireGestures. [09:47] https://bookmarkos.com anyone tried thsi? [09:56] don't like the square tabs [09:56] in ff [09:58] That's the Windows way. You can have anything you like, so long as it is square and flat [09:59] whats windows? [09:59] I actually dislike this whole "flat" trend. It can make hard to see where one window/frame/section/thing starts and ends. [09:59] foobarry: Windows is the defactor industry stanard. Where it leads, you will follow. OBEY THE BEAST OF REDMOND! [09:59] *de facto [10:00] The "hidden" scroll bars in KDE drive me up the wall. The float over text meaning it can be hard to select text under them. [10:00] So FF57 follows the MS style guide even in GNBU/Linux? [10:03] TwistedLucidity: You won points last nigt for luci program, thank you :) [10:03] diplo: Huzzah! Glad it worked [10:04] Yeah, the separate the front-end and back-end. Which is kinda nice, when one remembers.... [10:07] heh yep defo, I'd never used it before, searched for ages for the package, my google foo sucked [10:07] Going to try upgrading to lete tonight probably [10:27] I'm looking forward to running the updates on my machines, so I can remove my manually installed copy of ff57 [11:20] Gadzooks! FF57 and landed in KDE Neon. [12:39] I've switched my default browser to ff57 to see if I can live with it [12:43] Install FoxyGestures. <3 me some gesturey goodness [13:22] diddledan: how are you liking 57? [13:22] pretty nice [13:23] I've been using it since it was in nightly, and it's so fast it bought my crummy laptop back to life [13:23] :) [13:24] Don't have it on the work laptop yet as it's running ESR [13:24] but i do have it in a VM. even in the VM it's damn fast [13:24] fater than what 56 was with only 2GB RAM [13:29] absolutely [13:29] and container tabs are a thing of beauty [13:30] what are container tabs? [13:32] essentially they're "containers" which have different cookies [13:32] meaning you can be logged in to the same site multiple times [13:32] or you can do what I do [13:32] oh tahts nice [13:33] I'm logged in to facebook and google in my "personal" container tab, but browse the rest of the web in the "default" container tab [13:33] This means that sites don't know I'm logged in to facebook [13:33] It's different to private in that the cookies are still remembered [13:50] hmm. where do i find this container tabs feature? [13:54] nvm. found it [13:56] container tabs are the killer feature which will keep me with Firefox, unless Chrome can do it and more [14:04] I'm totally going to start using this. [14:08] It's so awesome, right? [14:09] really it's the feature that FF should be pushing above all else in this release [14:13] you didn't tell us where you found it though [14:13] please think about those of us that were waiting for the answer and didn't ask because you did [14:20] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/ [14:49] Just installed this myself, trying to see how it works [15:14] diddledan: google it :P [15:59] Oooh, that's shiny [15:59] * awilkins creates containers for each Amazon account [15:59] AWS MASTEH [21:38] diddledan: i killed another drive today, it had an old 12.04.5 install on it so i dd zero filled it from the booted OS :D got to watch the journal fail and be disabled [21:39] nah i jest, it had 24 bad sectors before i started [21:41] * zmoylan-samj3 remembers the good old days when you had to type ib the supplied list of bad sectors to novell before it would prepare the drive :-) [21:41] crikey [21:42] cheaper drives had long long lists... my boss was cheap... [21:42] they provided you with the manufacturer-known bad sectors and you had to avoid them by hand? ugh they just got into the firmware eventually [21:42] P-list and G-list, production and grown [21:43] this was before ide with controllers mounted to the drive esdi, rll drives [21:43] ah yeah, so the OS was talking directly to the motor - or was there still something between? [21:44] duct tape and hope :-) [21:44] err mobo side controller would exist surely [21:45] massive expansion card with 2 cables iirc for esdi to talje to drive obe for data, one for motor control [21:45] O_O [21:46] i once made the mistake of wiring one up correctly and ruined 3 days plus weekends of novell preparing the drive [21:46] it was meant to be wired incorrectly, silly me [21:48] now it's all hot swap raid with your namby pamby wishy washy cloud backup... :-) [21:50] :D [21:51] and the old timer at that time complained about us sending drive back... in his day they'd send an engineer to repair it on site [21:51] or attempt to. multimeter to check the boards, desolder and replace if that was problem [21:51] hahaha, how big were those drives then, still fill a hamster cage? [21:52] 5mb drive for cpm computer was full height. think 2 5.25! bays filled with one drive [21:53] ah yeah [21:53] we used them as door stops. they were indestructible [21:53] should have kept one to make a sledgehammer... [21:53] 10mb were 3 years later and half height. so size of cd rom drive [21:55] cor - and now here's me tossing dead multi terabyte ones [21:56] and i remember a cpm machine brought in with a sound card... music files were midi as no space for real audio [21:57] haha :D i still remember having to sellotape in the RAM on the creative labs AWE32 [21:57] sir clive and his blu tack salute you o> [21:59] about 4pb contains the library of congress... a.c.clarke said mid century... we're getting there [22:37] a clients house was so hotly heated today, my Yorkie melted! === leecowdrey__ is now known as leecowdrey [22:57] i seem to remember in wwii hersheys in america made a bar that xould be carried in pocket in tropucal climea without melting... of course even by american chocolate standards it wasn't nice [22:57] :D [22:59] american dwarf bread... :-P