[08:06] <MooDoo> howdy all
[09:11] <diplo> Morning all
[09:15] <SuperMatt> ahoy me hearties!
[09:15] <MooDoo> howdy howdy
[09:31] <foobarry> upgrading my firefox ..
[09:32] <foobarry> i have noticed a difference recently. since for a long time 50 tabs was the max i could use
[09:34] <Laney> not looking forward to losing vimperator
[09:34] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:36] <MooDoo> just upgraded my firefox, well impressed so far, they were right it's a lot faster
[09:40] <foobarry> gonna buy a nosebag for disgusting eater in the office
[09:41] <foobarry> have 126 tabs running in my ff 57..lets see how it goes
[09:43] <TwistedLucidity> ARG! FF 57 has killed some of the most important addons! FireGestures is no more. :-(
[09:43] <foobarry> i only really have evernote clipper and ublock
[09:44] <TwistedLucidity> I've been using gestures for years, can live without it
[09:44] <TwistedLucidity> Yay! FoxyGestures is the new FireGestures.
[09:47] <foobarry> https://bookmarkos.com anyone tried thsi?
[09:56] <foobarry> don't like the square tabs
[09:56] <foobarry> in ff
[09:58] <TwistedLucidity> That's the Windows way. You can have anything you like, so long as it is square and flat
[09:59] <foobarry> whats windows?
[09:59] <TwistedLucidity> I actually dislike this whole "flat" trend. It can make hard to see where one window/frame/section/thing starts and ends.
[09:59] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: Windows is the defactor industry stanard. Where it leads, you will follow. OBEY THE BEAST OF REDMOND!
[09:59] <TwistedLucidity> *de facto
[10:00] <TwistedLucidity> The "hidden" scroll bars in KDE drive me up the wall. The float over text meaning it can be hard to select text under them.
[10:00] <TwistedLucidity> So FF57 follows the MS style guide even in GNBU/Linux?
[10:03] <diplo> TwistedLucidity: You won points last nigt for luci program, thank you :)
[10:03] <TwistedLucidity> diplo: Huzzah! Glad it worked
[10:04] <TwistedLucidity> Yeah, the separate the front-end and back-end. Which is kinda nice, when one remembers....
[10:07] <diplo> heh yep defo, I'd never used it before, searched for ages for the package, my google foo sucked
[10:07] <diplo> Going to try upgrading to lete tonight probably
[10:27] <SuperMatt> I'm looking forward to running the updates on my machines, so I can remove my manually installed copy of ff57
[11:20] <TwistedLucidity> Gadzooks! FF57 and landed in KDE Neon.
[12:39] <diddledan> I've switched my default browser to ff57 to see if I can live with it
[12:43] <TwistedLucidity> Install FoxyGestures. <3 me some gesturey goodness
[13:22] <m0nkey_> diddledan: how are you liking 57?
[13:22] <diddledan> pretty nice
[13:23] <SuperMatt> I've been using it since it was in nightly, and it's so fast it bought my crummy laptop back to life
[13:23] <m0nkey_> :)
[13:24] <m0nkey_> Don't have it on the work laptop yet as it's running ESR
[13:24] <m0nkey_> but i do have it in a VM. even in the VM it's damn fast
[13:24] <m0nkey_> fater than what 56 was with only 2GB RAM
[13:29] <SuperMatt> absolutely
[13:29] <SuperMatt> and container tabs are a thing of beauty
[13:30] <foobarry> what are container tabs?
[13:32] <SuperMatt> essentially they're "containers" which have different cookies
[13:32] <SuperMatt> meaning you can be logged in to the same site multiple times
[13:32] <SuperMatt> or you can do what I do
[13:32] <foobarry> oh tahts nice
[13:33] <SuperMatt> I'm logged in to facebook and google in my "personal" container tab, but browse the rest of the web in the "default" container tab
[13:33] <SuperMatt> This means that sites don't know I'm logged in to facebook
[13:33] <SuperMatt> It's different to private in that the cookies are still remembered
[13:50] <m0nkey_> hmm. where do i find this container tabs feature?
[13:54] <m0nkey_> nvm. found it
[13:56] <SuperMatt> container tabs are the killer feature which will keep me with Firefox, unless Chrome can do it and more
[14:04] <m0nkey_> I'm totally going to start using this.
[14:08] <SuperMatt> It's so awesome, right?
[14:09] <SuperMatt> really it's the feature that FF should be pushing above all else in this release
[14:13] <diddledan> you didn't tell us where you found it though
[14:13] <diddledan> please think about those of us that were waiting for the answer and didn't ask because you did
[14:20] <SuperMatt> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers/
[14:49] <diplo> Just installed this myself, trying to see how it works
[15:14] <m0nkey_> diddledan: google it :P
[15:59] <awilkins> Oooh, that's shiny
[15:59]  * awilkins creates containers for each Amazon account
[15:59] <awilkins> AWS MASTEH
[21:38] <daftykins> diddledan: i killed another drive today, it had an old 12.04.5 install on it so i dd zero filled it from the booted OS :D got to watch the journal fail and be disabled
[21:39] <daftykins> nah i jest, it had 24 bad sectors before i started
[21:41]  * zmoylan-samj3 remembers the good old days when you had to type ib the supplied list of bad sectors to novell before it would prepare the drive :-)
[21:41] <daftykins> crikey
[21:42] <zmoylan-samj3> cheaper drives had long long lists... my boss was cheap...
[21:42] <daftykins> they provided you with the manufacturer-known bad sectors and you had to avoid them by hand? ugh they just got into the firmware eventually
[21:42] <daftykins> P-list and G-list, production and grown
[21:43] <zmoylan-samj3> this was before ide with controllers mounted to the drive esdi, rll drives
[21:43] <daftykins> ah yeah, so the OS was talking directly to the motor - or was there still something between?
[21:44] <zmoylan-samj3> duct tape and hope :-)
[21:44] <daftykins> err mobo side controller would exist surely
[21:45] <zmoylan-samj3> massive expansion card with 2 cables iirc for esdi to talje to drive obe for data, one for motor control
[21:45] <daftykins> O_O
[21:46] <zmoylan-samj3> i once made the mistake of wiring one up correctly and ruined 3 days plus weekends of novell preparing the drive
[21:46] <zmoylan-samj3> it was meant to be wired incorrectly, silly me
[21:48] <zmoylan-samj3> now it's all hot swap raid with your namby pamby wishy washy cloud backup... :-)
[21:50] <daftykins> :D
[21:51] <zmoylan-samj3> and the old timer at that time complained about us sending drive back... in his day they'd send an engineer to repair it on site
[21:51] <zmoylan-samj3> or attempt to. multimeter to check the boards, desolder and replace if that was problem
[21:51] <daftykins> hahaha, how big were those drives then, still fill a hamster cage?
[21:52] <zmoylan-samj3> 5mb drive for cpm computer was full height. think 2 5.25! bays filled with one drive
[21:53] <daftykins> ah yeah
[21:53] <zmoylan-samj3> we used them as door stops. they were indestructible
[21:53] <zmoylan-samj3> should have kept one to make a sledgehammer...
[21:53] <zmoylan-samj3> 10mb were 3 years later and half height. so size of cd rom drive
[21:55] <daftykins> cor - and now here's me tossing dead multi terabyte ones
[21:56] <zmoylan-samj3> and i remember a cpm machine brought in with a sound card... music files were midi as no space for real audio
[21:57] <daftykins> haha :D i still remember having to sellotape in the RAM on the creative labs AWE32
[21:57] <zmoylan-samj3> sir clive and his blu tack salute you o>
[21:59] <zmoylan-samj3> about 4pb contains the library of congress... a.c.clarke said mid century... we're getting there
[22:37] <daftykins> a clients house was so hotly heated today, my Yorkie melted!
[22:57] <zmoylan-samj3> i seem to remember in wwii hersheys in america made a bar that xould be carried in pocket in tropucal climea without melting... of course even by american chocolate standards it wasn't nice
[22:57] <daftykins> :D
[22:59] <zmoylan-samj3> american dwarf bread... :-P