[07:23] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:27] <inetpro> NOTE: before you upgrade to Firefox v57 (Quantum), make sure your crucial addons are covered 
[07:27]  * inetpro just noticed that FireFTP is "Not compatible with Firefox Quantum"
[07:28] <inetpro> not that I use it so much but it has come in useful from time to time
[07:29] <inetpro> fortunately there are many alternative FTP clients
[07:36] <MaNI> more things like flashblock etc. that are essential I  think
[07:37] <MaNI> there are quite a lot of those that are still 'legacy'
[07:42] <MaNI> why are firefox pushing screenshots so hard, do they realise that all operating systems have perfectly capable built in screenshot abilities?
[07:43] <MaNI> I'm not even sure I want my web browser to be capable of doing screenshots, it seems like just another privacy nightmare
[07:47] <inetpro> yep, good point
[07:49] <inetpro> good points as well
[07:51] <poppingtonic> hi
[07:52] <poppingtonic> in-browser screenshots are probably more useful for developers right now. Is there some kind of underserved screenshot-meme subculture or something?
[07:58] <MaNI> I'm guessing it is meant to serve some perceived "end user support for users who can't figure out how to upload screenshots" demand or something, but yeah I find it a bit odd
[07:58] <MaNI> hrm tab mix plus is "legacy" thats going to be an issue for me
[08:00] <poppingtonic> is anyone here intrigued by rust, now that Quantum is **2X Faster**?
[08:00] <poppingtonic> rustaceans, rise!
[08:01] <MaNI> haha
[09:51] <inetpro> at least the RSS feed subscribe button is back again, not sure whether it's been hiding there behind the toolbar customise option for some time though
[11:15] <chesedo> morning all
[11:17] <chesedo> MaNI: in-browser screenshots will catch the whole page - when one has to scroll - whereas the OS screenshot will catch the window, its decorations and everything in the current scroll area
[11:19] <chesedo> poppingtonic: I have started looking into rust a few months ago... it seems like a merge between C++ and go for me so far
[11:44] <inetpro> oh yes, chesedo is right, in-browser screenshots will catch the whole page
[11:45] <inetpro> on the rare occasions when I needed that I had awesome screenshot plus installed as a addon
[11:46] <chesedo> but for the rest I have to agree with MaNI - ie why would normal user use it?
[11:48] <chesedo> we were looking for places to hire a car last week and someone at my mom's work decided to help by sending my mom a screenshot of her google search results
[11:48] <inetpro> interestingly, awesome screenshot is still working on v57, but I guess I can just uninstall it now
[11:49] <MaNI> I was going to say that spectacle can take snapshots of only the content part of the browser as well, but it can't I guess because these days everything is owner drawn and nobody does stuff proper native anymore
[11:50] <MaNI> either that or I'm going senile - I swear I used to be able to snapshot only parts of any X11 app
[11:50] <chesedo> shutter still can last i checked
[11:51] <chesedo> although maybe wayland has changed things
[11:51] <MaNI> 'progress' haha
[11:51] <chesedo> lol
[11:52]  * inetpro most often don't need more than what is offered with KSnapshot
[11:54] <MaNI> well theres rectangular selection area when all else fails, thats usually enough, but I don't really spend much of my life taking screenshots
[15:49] <superfly> inetpro: KSnapshot is old. Spectacle is the new.
[15:50] <superfly> MaNI: Last time I used Spectacle (which was about 2 days ago) I could take a shot of a rectangular region of the screen.
[15:51] <inetpro> sudo apt install kde-spectacle
[15:52] <inetpro> superfly: thanks
[15:52] <inetpro> so how do I make it launch on the press of the PrntScr key in stead of KSnapshot?
[16:09] <MaNI> superfly, yeah still can
[16:10] <superfly> inetpro: remove ksnapshot?
[16:10] <superfly> inetpro: or go into system settings, shortcuts, and change there
[16:10] <MaNI> but it used to be possible with ksnapshot (unless my memory is completely failing me) to screenshot 'parts' of a window, like it would show a red rectangle around specific parts as you moved the mouse and could snapshot it
[16:11] <superfly> MaNI: I don't recall that, to be honest
[16:11] <MaNI> not entirely sure when that fell away, but I guess it's a victim of all the owner drawing and compositing and whatnot
[16:12] <inetpro> superfly: nope, it was not necessary to remove ksnapshot
[16:12] <MaNI> I'm fairly certain it was a thing, but don't really care enough to go look for it, anyway
[16:13] <inetpro> just had to logout and login to see "Start Screenshot Tool" in the KDE Daemon component of global shortcuts
[16:13] <MaNI> spectacle is pretty nice and does pretty much anything I would personally actually need on a day to day basis
[16:14] <superfly> I agree