| acheronuk | tsimonq2 RedWolf[m] wxl et al. https://kubuntu.org/event/collaboration-initiatives/?instance_id=3 | 15:57 |
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| wxl | aw you like us! you really really like us! | 15:57 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> do you want to colaborate with us?! 😍 | 15:57 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> HE LOVES US! | 15:58 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> <· | 15:58 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> <3 | 15:58 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> ._____. | 15:58 |
| acheronuk | we have common ground on several things now (or will) | 15:58 |
| wxl | no THEY love us!!! | 15:58 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> well, I colaborated with Kylin and MATE before, and it was amazing. I love to share things with our flavour bros | 15:59 |
| * genii somehow wandered into a KDE wuvfest | 15:59 | |
| wxl | s/bros/pals/ | 15:59 |
| acheronuk | please come along to that if you want :) | 15:59 |
| wxl | genii: actually it's a Qt love fest :) | 15:59 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> FEST!!! YESSSS! *brings the beer* | 15:59 |
| genii | Hehe | 15:59 |
| wxl | why doesn't Qt have an anthromorphic animal mascot yet? | 16:00 |
| * acheronuk wonders what can of worms he just opened | 16:00 | |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> :) | 16:00 |
| genii | wxl: I forgot I was in #lubuntu-devel, thought for a second I was posting in #kubuntu-devel :D | 16:00 |
| wxl | hahahahah | 16:01 |
| wxl | yeah even crazier :) | 16:01 |
| genii | ..also acheronuk is in both too | 16:01 |
| acheronuk | there a chance I won't be able to make all of that meeting.... | 16:02 |
| acheronuk | but little point if we (Kubuntu) just chat amongst ourselves | 16:03 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I think I'll go | 16:22 |
| wxl | here's a good suggestion for what to do with scrot: have the PrintScreen key dump it into ~/Pictures. also, scrot apparently has no upstream website. or maybe it does. and it looks like the hot key is broken (i'm not running openbox, so someone please confirm) https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-tweaks/+bug/1732871 | 17:05 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1732871 in Lubuntu-Tweaks "Ship with screen shot application" [Undecided, New] | 17:05 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> That app is more than experimental | 17:06 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> So it's apparently OK for us to try out Calamares 😁 | 17:33 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> State your objections to doing this in Lubuntu Next or I'll go through with it in ~ 4 hours | 17:33 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> (it's always reversible) | 17:33 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2, Aye | 17:34 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @tsimonq2, Meaning, using it by default instead of Ubiquity | 17:34 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> Damn. I'll need to do new slideshows. | 17:34 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> I hate you. | 17:34 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> 🙃 | 17:34 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> We're in the prealpha stages so it wouldn't hurt to give it a try | 17:35 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, I'll PayPal you lunch costs if you want :P | 17:35 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> I want beer! | 17:36 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> Guinness! | 17:36 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> .__. | 17:36 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> A LOT | 17:36 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @tsimonq2, KDE Neon uses it by default and it would be much easier than messing with the Ubiquity frontend | 17:37 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> I'll get the templates and study it. | 17:38 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> OK. | 17:39 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> I request a Lubuntu council meeting. WE NEED TO TALK 😐 | 17:43 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, About? :) | 17:44 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> Things | 17:44 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> JulienLavergnegi: Around at all? :) | 17:44 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I know wxl is around kinda | 17:45 |
| wxl[m] | I'm here what's up? | 17:46 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf needs to talk apparently | 17:47 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf Related to Calamares? | 17:47 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> Yes. And browsers. And some default apps. I need Julien to attend to also. | 17:48 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> And remember I'm preparing a HUGE artwork modification. | 17:49 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Well we're overdue for a meeting anyways | 17:49 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I can send a Doodle when I get home unless you feel inclined | 17:49 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> What's a doodle? | 17:49 |
| wxl[m] | Yeah Doodle it | 17:50 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, Doodle Poll, for times | 17:50 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> I'll try to be dressed for that meeting. | 17:50 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> .___. | 17:51 |
| RedWolf[m] | O.o | 18:56 |
| tsimonq2 | So I'm home now... trying out Calamares in a VM with a Lubuntu Next ISO | 20:30 |
| tsimonq2 | If everything works as intended, I'll need a new package in the archive, but otherwise we should be good. | 20:31 |
| wxl | nice | 20:32 |
| wxl | wait | 20:32 |
| wxl | we'd need a settings package you mean? | 20:32 |
| wxl | not calamares | 20:32 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah. | 20:32 |
| tsimonq2 | calamares is already in there. | 20:32 |
| tsimonq2 | Neon has one. | 20:32 |
| tsimonq2 | I'm a MOTU so that should be no problem given that packages like this already exist. | 20:33 |
| agaida | you could use every calamares within the last few month - but one have to create the needed glue and branding package | 20:36 |
| tsimonq2 | Right | 20:37 |
| tsimonq2 | Neon has one that I can use as a template | 20:38 |
| * agaida has written his glue and branding from the scratch - esp the glue | 20:39 | |
| tsimonq2 | agaida: Could you throw me the link to your packaging real quick? | 20:39 |
| agaida | https://git.siduction.org/explore/repos?q=calamares&tab= | 20:40 |
| tsimonq2 | Thanks. | 20:40 |
| agaida | in the settings thing you will see what i meant - it is highly specific to ffl-based distributions, so it might work partly with aptosid and fully with siduction | 20:43 |
| tsimonq2 | Yeah | 20:44 |
| agaida | mostly a translation of rules from our old ffl-based installer | 20:44 |
| tsimonq2 | agaida: Hm, so what settings do I have to tweak to make the installer see that I *do* have enough space to install? :P | 20:44 |
| agaida | good question - that should be done in the plain calamares modules | 20:45 |
| agaida | https://git.siduction.org/extra/calamares-settings-siduction/src/master/calamares/settings.conf | 20:47 |
| agaida | it's the partition thing in section exec | 20:48 |
| agaida | :) - done | 20:48 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh, thanks. | 20:48 |
| agaida | -partition is the call of pm-core | 20:49 |
| agaida | mount will do the needed mounts | 20:49 |
| agaida | in our case fllmount will mount the live system to /tmp/$foo | 20:50 |
| tsimonq2 | RIght | 20:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Thanks | 20:50 |
| * tsimonq2 has to learn sometime :) | 20:50 | |
| agaida | unpackfs is a misnomer - unpackfs does the whole installation (rsync) thing | 20:50 |
| tsimonq2 | Ah right | 20:52 |
| agaida | all the magic after is to make a live system a fully workling intallation, rewrite some pathes, configurations and so on - and thats the time consuming part, one should know his system, that would help | 20:52 |
| agaida | anyways - after configuring calamares one knows his system and the internals very well | 20:53 |
| agaida | even places one didn't know that they exist | 20:53 |
| tsimonq2 | Cool | 20:53 |
| tsimonq2 | Once I can confirm this is working, I'll start work on a calamares-settings-ubuntu package | 20:54 |
| agaida | and the best ist - one can hack the glue directly in the live system | 20:54 |
| tsimonq2 | Right | 20:54 |
| tsimonq2 | I think this is a really cool thing :) | 20:54 |
| agaida | timeconsuming but funny | 20:54 |
| agaida | it is really cool | 20:55 |
| agaida | ok, with my findings i'm on pos 9 of contributors i think :P - but mostly pep8 crap | 20:55 |
| agaida | the only thing i would suggest if you use the debian package - patch it and make the libs private | 20:57 |
| agaida | less annoying warnings, no symbols and such things | 20:57 |
| tsimonq2 | Why would I need symbols? :P | 20:58 |
| agaida | you will - calamares provides three libs | 20:58 |
| agaida | and someone could notice that :P | 20:58 |
| agaida | thats why i placed them outside of the common path as private libs | 20:59 |
| agaida | no lintian whining, no need to split them out for no reason etc | 20:59 |
| tsimonq2 | That's also what Neon did. | 20:59 |
| agaida | :) | 20:59 |
| tsimonq2 | :) | 20:59 |
| agaida | i asked politely to upstream this - but i thing the very most guys and the girl really don't understand the reasons :P | 21:01 |
| agaida | think even | 21:01 |
| tsimonq2 | agaida: Upstream what? It's just installing some files :P | 21:02 |
| agaida | erm - ... | 21:02 |
| tsimonq2 | That's how it's intended, no/ | 21:03 |
| tsimonq2 | Maybe I'm misunderstanding this. | 21:03 |
| agaida | there is a lot of magic | 21:03 |
| agaida | one could do the main part with few simple mounts and rsync | 21:03 |
| agaida | the magic is the interface, the partition handling - the visual part at all | 21:04 |
| agaida | second part is the magic one can do in the just copied/"installed" system | 21:05 |
| agaida | and it is worth to think a few hours about and tinker a little bit - in my case i recognise the full potential after i implemented 3/4 of the needed things | 21:06 |
| agaida | just a hint: do as much as you can with shell scripts in the target system - just call these scripts via the python interface - it is reliable and will speed up the development | 21:09 |
| agaida | could cut down the dev time to 3-4 days for the scripts with testing | 21:10 |
| tsimonq2 | Right | 21:13 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf So all I'd need from you irt slideshows for Calamares is just some PMGs | 23:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> *PNGs | 23:08 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> only? | 23:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Hrm, let me check, but that's how Neon does it | 23:08 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> (Photo, 1366x768) https://i.imgur.com/QfFbXHM.jpg | 23:09 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Oh, no, QML or PNGs | 23:09 |
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