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naccpresumably 17.10 is calling gnome-session-quit --power-off, and can be tweaked somehow to pass --no-prompt00:00
naccah but --no-prompt only works with --logout00:00
nacci'm not sure there is a real good reason to disable the prompt, tbh00:00
naccfor logout, i can see, but for shutdown, you'00:00
naccare affecting all users00:00
AnticomHi. Is WildGuppy still a thing? I'm looking for a tool to adjust my screen brightnes automatically. The first one I've found was WildGuppy, however looking at the ppa the last update is ages ago ( https://launchpad.net/~fantasyleague0629/+archive/ubuntu/wildguppy )00:17
naccAnticom: https://github.com/billyboar/autobrightness last updated 2015?00:19
naccAnticom: i'd guess it's defunct00:19
naccAnticom: some googling (and refining the search by date) shows: http://ronmevissen.com/autobrightness00:20
naccAnticom: but regardless, not ubuntu with the ppa or the above :)00:21
naccAnticom: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-autobrightness.html hrm00:22
Anticomnacc: hm, don't have that option. Afaik my laptop has an ambient light sensor so it should be there.00:25
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AnticomAny way to check for availability of that sensor in cli etc.?00:25
naccAnticom: are you on 17.10?00:25
Anticomnacc: 16.0400:25
naccAnticom: ah that link was for 17.1000:25
AnticomWaiting for the next LTS00:25
Anticomah okay00:25
AnticomAny way to maybe backport it?00:25
nacchttps://help.ubuntu.com/lts/ubuntu-help/display-dimscreen.html00:27
naccwould imply the setting does not exist in 16.0400:27
naccAnticom: unlikely, it's presumably a gnome thing00:27
MehrzadHi00:27
MehrzadI'm stuckbehind ubuntu 17.04 login screen00:27
MehrzadKeyboard or mouse don't work00:28
AnticomMehrzad: Tried changing to another tty and looking at the logs from xorg?00:28
AnticomOh00:28
MehrzadAccording to this page, the xserver files don't get updated during the update. But I connat do any updates in the recovery mode either00:29
solidfoxhello00:30
solidfoxyes00:30
solidfoxthe audio is good in ubuntu, but not suse, does anyone know the difference?00:30
MehrzadWhen Itry to load the recovery mode with networking enabled i get this error: grep /etc/resolv.conf no such file or directory00:31
naccsolidfox: there are many differences between the two.00:31
solidfoxnacc: interesting. would you mind talking about them a little00:32
naccsolidfox: it's not really topical for this channel. I'm sure you can google for the differences between ubuntu and suse. They are completely different operating systems.00:33
MehrzadAnticom: I don't know what a tty is :\00:33
AnticomMehrzad: https://askubuntu.com/a/66198/38288300:34
solidfoxI guess I rused into a new os too quickly. everything else seemed so good00:34
solidfoxI didn't think to play some music00:34
naccsolidfox: if you have a problem with suse, you should ask suse for support00:34
solidfoxnacc: they helped me.00:35
naccsolidfox: ... so you don't have any issue?00:35
solidfoxnacc: well, before they helped me I had no audio00:35
Anticomsolidfox: But this still isn't #suse00:35
naccsolidfox: right, not an ubuntu issue.00:35
solidfoxmhm00:35
naccsolidfox: so please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere00:35
solidfoxyeah you're right. sorry00:36
Anticomsolidfox: #friendly-coders also is a good one00:36
MehrzadAnticom: So do I change the tty on the login screen?00:37
AnticomMehrzad: you just change to a tty other than 7 (where xorg is running on)00:38
AnticomMehrzad: But if neither keyboard nor mouse are working you can't change to another tty00:38
MehrzadAh okat Anticom00:39
Mehrzad*okay00:39
MehrzadI'll give it another try and will be back00:40
Bashing-omMehrzad: IOMMT setting in bios ? is it eneabled ?00:41
Bashing-omIOMMU*00:41
CashDash123is there a ppa for wgetpaste?00:42
MathisenCashDash123, what do you need it for ?00:47
solidfoxubuntu question: what is the latest kernel available for ubuntu LTS00:53
MehrzadOkay, I'm back. Still can't get the keyboard and mouse get to work00:54
Bashing-om!info linux-image-generic xenial | solidfox00:55
ubottusolidfox: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.98.103 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB00:55
naccthere is also hwe, though00:56
nacc!hwe | solidfox00:57
ubottusolidfox: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack00:57
nacc(currently at 4.10 for hwe and 4.13 for hwe-edge, i believe)00:57
MehrzadThis is the errors that I get during installing xserver-xorg in recovery mode https://postimg.org/image/8o07tai6j/00:58
Bashing-omneunon: Did you select " enable networking" in the recovery menu also ?01:00
AnticomMehrzad: Just guessing but looks as if you are simply offline01:00
Bashing-omMehrzad: ^^ sorry fat fingers neunon .01:00
MehrzadWell01:01
MehrzadHow can I get online? When I try to get online using laptop wifi it says /et/cresolv.conf is not found, so I tried cellphone tethering01:02
AnticomDid you even read Bashing-om's suggestion?01:03
naccMehrzad: if i had to guess, /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink and possibly to something not mounted?01:04
Mehrzadnacc: I don't know. It must be one of ubuntu's own files01:06
MehrzadSo, even it's a symlink, how can i mount the original file?01:08
naccMehrzad: first, look if it is01:16
naccMehrzad: see where it is trying to link to01:16
naccMehrzad: does the file exist in the first place01:16
Mehrzadusing what commands nacc ?01:16
RomanticI'm looking for the package that provides glib.h01:26
kostkon!find glib.h01:26
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 149 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=glib.h&searchon=names&suite=artful&section=all01:26
kostkonmeh01:27
naccMehrzad: ls -ahl ?01:30
naccRomantic: libglib2.0-dev or so01:30
naccRomantic: dpkg -S or apt-file search to find such01:30
Bashing-omRomantic: libglib2.0-dev ?? : https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=glib.h&mode=exactfilename&suite=xenial&arch=any .01:31
Mehrzadthanks, be right back01:35
MehrzadOkay, I'm back01:55
Mehrzadnacc: this is the result i got from etc/resolv.conf https://postimg.org/image/59i1cteyj/01:56
naccMehrzad: right, so resolvconf probably doesn't run in the recovery shell01:59
naccMehrzad: you can temporarily edit /etc/resolv.conf and put the right values in01:59
naccMehrzad: just make sure to symlink it back before rebooting01:59
Mehrzadright values? would "nameserver 8.8.8.8" be enough?02:00
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Mehrzadnacc: or can i simply mount the source folder?02:04
Mehrzadnacc: okay, i'm going to try some things. Will be back. thanks02:08
sirru5hHello Everyone02:08
kostkonsirru5h, hi02:10
sirru5hLooks quite tonight.02:11
kostkonsirru5h, i guess it does02:12
sirru5hHave you tried out firefox 57.0 ?  I like it more stable than 56.0, I had a ton of issues with that one.02:14
kostkonsirru5h, most of the people here got the update i reckon. they are already using it02:14
kostkonsirru5h, it looks and behaves better02:15
sirru5hIt certainly does, on 56 I had issues where it just kept crashing and crashing finally I uninstalled and re-installed then it behaved better02:16
bryanfrommacauHi02:26
bryanfrommacauIs there software included on the ubuntu server installation which isn't included on desktop?02:27
naccbryanfrommacau: define 'included'02:28
naccbryanfrommacau: installed by default: yes; available: no.02:28
bryanfrommacauok02:29
bryanfrommacauI'm trying to install ubuntu on an old laptop that I have, but I only have 700mb CDs....What is the best way to install?02:30
bryanfrommacauI had trouble with the network installation02:31
kostkonbryanfrommacau, how old is it02:33
bryanfrommacauI don't know exactly - but it has windows xp02:34
bryanfrommacauThe casing says windows vista, but someone installed xp on it02:34
bryanfrommacauI haven't been able to boot from usb02:34
kostkonbryanfrommacau, if it's a vista era laptop it should be able to boot from usb sticks02:35
kostkonbryanfrommacau, in some cases you need to enter the bios to select the device where you want to boot from02:36
bryanfrommacauIt says that it can boot from the usb02:46
bryanfrommacaubut despite troubleshooting, it doesn't work, so I've given up on that02:46
bryanfrommacauI changed all the bios settings I could find, and tried formatting the usb in different ways02:47
sirru5hWhat model laptop is this btw?02:47
MehrzadOkay, I'm back02:47
Mehrzadnacc: no luck creating a resolv.conf file02:47
hidemeCan anyone tell me how to down-grade Firefox (v57 auto installed) in Ubutnu 16.04 LTS?02:53
kostkonbryanfrommacau, the Lubuntu alternate iso can fit on a cd http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04.3/release/02:55
sirru5hhideme, https://askubuntu.com/questions/977138/how-to-downgrade-firefox-57-to-5602:57
hidemesirru5h, Just found that one now.  :)02:57
hidemethank you.02:57
kostkonhideme, not recommended to go back to 56 but to use 52ESR instead02:58
sirru5hhaha great minds think a like I guess :)02:58
hidemesirru5h, I just need to recover my Tab Groups.   :(02:58
kostkonhideme, because 56 is already full of known vulnerabilities that have been fixed in 5702:58
kostkonhideme, and 52ESR that is02:59
sirru5hhideme, I had a ton of trouble with 56 when I first upgraded from 17.04 to 17.1002:59
hidemekostkon, what...?  Are you suggesting 52ERS?03:00
hidemeI just want to rollback to 56, bookmark all my tabs and then update to 57 and wait for Tab Group support.03:01
kostkonhideme, oh, i thought you wanted to downgrade to keep using that extension03:02
luxioIs there a way to configure GNOME so that when you click on the icon of a window in the toolbar that's already open, it minimizes the window? It's a habit I have from Windows.03:02
luxios/toolbar/taskbar03:02
hidemekostkon, well...  kinda.  I need to recover the tabs to bookmark them.03:03
kostkonhideme, ok, go for it03:04
sirru5hAlright cya everyone you all have a good night03:05
hidemeFixed.  I'm back on v56 with Tab Groups and all my content.03:10
hidemeWas swearing like a sailor when I got home and it updated before I could hold it back.03:11
hidemeThanks to all that took the time to answer.03:11
Anticomi don't get this. I've got docker installed and i've got a 'bin' directory in my home dir. I've prepended /home/me/bin to my PATH but if i run 'docker' the native one is picked. Why is that?03:22
AnticomIs it like some anti-virus etc. thing?03:22
Anticomoh forgot to mention that there's an executable script in bin called 'docker'03:23
calamariIs there a GUI app to configure GTK3? I'm trying to get back a normal scrollbar, right now I have a rounded sliver with no buttons.03:37
RomanticHow are packages built and put out as part of main distribution? Is it done by folks at canonical?03:37
andyworkcalamari: throw up a terminal and type this: gsettings set com.canonical.desktop.interface scrollbar-mode normal03:38
RomanticSay for this package, can I find out who's built and made avail? libjava-gnome-java03:39
AnticomRomantic: probably the guys over at #ubuntu-dev have answers for your questions03:40
AnticomRomantic: for specific packages i believe there's author information if you do 'apt show libjava-gnome-java'03:41
AnticomRomantic: "Maintainer" is what you're looking for in apt show is what you're looking for03:41
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bilb_onoI can’t access the caffe-cuda package with sudo apt-get install caffe-cuda04:26
bilb_onoI did sudo apt-get update04:27
tatertotzbilb_ono: open terminal04:29
bilb_onotatertotz: it is04:29
tatertotzbilb_ono: in terminal>   sudo apt install inxi pastebinit04:29
tatertotzbilb_ono: let me know when its done04:29
bilb_onoIm not on the computer that this is on btw04:30
tatertotzoh04:30
bilb_onobut I can pastebin stuff anyways I guess04:30
bilb_onoIll just copy the url04:30
tatertotzbilb_ono: let me know when its done04:31
bilb_onotatertotz: its done04:31
tatertotzbilb_ono: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxprzc0|pastebinit04:32
tatertotzbilb_ono: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so04:32
bilb_onotatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/2597872704:34
tatertotzbilb_ono: are you typing "sudo apt-get install caffe-cuda" ?04:36
bilb_onotatertotz: yes04:37
tatertotzbilb_ono: in terminal>     sudo apt install caffe-cuda|tee ~/nip.pir04:38
acosHow bad is this error? It locked up a live CD04:38
acoshttps://imgur.com/a/F7Udt04:38
bilb_onotatertotz: same error04:38
tatertotzbilb_ono: in terminal>     pastebinit ~/nip.pir04:39
acosI had to hard power off04:39
tatertotzbilb_ono: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so04:39
bilb_onotatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/2597875004:39
tatertotzbilb_ono: in terminal>     sudo apt install caffe-cuda &> ~/nip.pir04:40
tatertotzbilb_ono: let me know when done...you may not see anything04:41
bilb_onotatertotz: I did it04:41
tatertotzbilb_ono: in terminal>     pastebinit ~/nip.pir04:41
bilb_onotatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/2597876304:42
tatertotzbilb_ono: did you add this            Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cuda-8-0-local-ga2.list04:43
bilb_onotatertotz: no where do you see that?04:43
tatertotzbilb_ono: i was just looking at the PPA's you have added and the repos you can get software from04:44
tatertotzbilb_ono: E: Unable to locate package caffe-cuda  would suggest the system cannot find a package by that name04:45
bilb_onotatertotz: ah ok. so I should add what to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cuda-8-0-local-ga2.list ?04:45
tatertotzbilb_ono: are you %100 certain that is the name of the package?04:45
bilb_onotatertotz: yeah I can see it on packages.ubuntu.com04:46
tatertotzbilb_ono: is that a website?04:46
bilb_onotatertotz: http://caffe.berkeleyvision.org/install_apt.html04:46
bilb_onoohh04:46
bilb_onomaybe its because I am on 1604:46
bilb_onowhereas this is for 1704:46
tatertotzFor Ubuntu (>= 17.04)04:48
tatertotzgreater than or equal to04:48
tatertotzhuman error04:48
bilb_onoyeah04:48
bilb_onothanks for the help though04:49
tatertotzno prob04:49
boblamontare there any file managers that work with lubuntu that will automatically rename files with invalid names as they copy (so you don't have to do it manually)? The preference is for a gui with drag and drop...  I'm copying things from a bunch of cd-rs (ISO 9660, Joliet Extension, most likely burned on a Mac), so renaming on the source isn't possible04:50
bryanfrommacauWhat would be faster on an old computer, lubuntu 17.10, or ubuntu 14.04?04:52
boblamontdestination drive is listed as FAT3204:53
tatertotzwould heavily depend on what and how you are measuring and determining speed and or quickness.04:54
tatertotzbut i digress04:55
tatertotzE=Mc2 only works like that...if it was missing data such as E=  ...there's no solvable equation04:56
jkwiatkohi all i just build my first desktop PC and i wanted to install ubuntu. Is there any such issues that i need to worry about regarding motherboard/OS compatibility?05:01
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tatertotzno05:04
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puxavidahi - i have a lenovo yoga 920 that i just installed 16.04 on and I can get the network to work with a usb c adapter, but the wifi doesn't work.05:04
puxavidathe wifi is:05:04
jkwiatkotatertotz: thank you05:05
tatertotzpuxavida: are you chatting from the computer now? yes or no05:05
puxavidaqualcomm atheros qca6174 80211ac05:05
puxavidanext to it05:05
puxavidadesktop here laptop on the side05:05
tatertotzpuxavida: is it hardwired to the network with cable?05:05
puxavidayes with usb c adapter - have googled for any way to get firmware or something - I see the adapter with lspci05:06
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>   sudo apt install inxi pastebinit05:06
tatertotzpuxavida: let me know when done05:07
puxavidaok done05:07
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxprzc0|pastebinit05:07
tatertotzpuxavida:  share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so05:08
puxavidahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25978897/05:09
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>     nmcli d s|pastebinit05:12
tatertotzpuxavida:  share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so05:12
puxavidahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25978911/05:13
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>     sudo ip link set wlp107s0 up &> ~/nip.pir05:14
tatertotzpuxavida: let me know when done...you may or may not see anything05:14
puxavidaok done05:15
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>     sudo iw dev wlp107s0 scan &>> ~/nip.pir05:16
tatertotzpuxavida: let me know when done...you may or may not see anything05:16
puxavidadone05:17
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>     nmcli d s|pastebinit05:18
puxavidahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25978932/05:18
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>     rfkill list &>> ~/nip.pir05:19
tatertotzpuxavida: let me know when done...you may or may not see anything05:19
puxavidaok05:20
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>     pastebinit ~/nip.pir05:20
tatertotzpuxavida:  share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so05:20
puxavidahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/2597846/05:21
puxavidahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25978946/05:21
puxavidaoops05:21
puxavidalast one is better missed a number05:21
puxavidaI see bluezone in that list and that is one of our campus access points05:22
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>     cat ~/nip.pir|grep SSI|pastebinit05:22
puxavidahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25978960/05:24
tatertotzpuxavida: you BEFORE http://paste.ubuntu.com/25978897/05:24
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>   inxi -Fxxprzc0|pastebinit05:25
puxavidahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25978970/05:26
tatertotzpuxavida: which network are you planning on connecting to?05:27
puxavidabluezone05:27
tatertotzdo it05:27
puxavidafrom the menu at the top i have to turn wifi on05:28
puxavidathen edit connections?05:28
tatertotzwhy it is on already?05:29
tatertotzif your wifi were not "on" it would not be possible to see http://paste.ubuntu.com/25978960/05:29
tatertotzwould you agree?05:31
puxavidahow do i connect?05:31
puxavidaIt's not show in menu - not sure how to if from command line05:31
tatertotzpuxavida: have you ever successfully used wifi on this computer in the past?05:32
puxavidayes - only with windows when first got it05:32
puxavidaif I boot in to windows it works there05:32
tatertotzpuxavida: try disabling quickboot/fast boot or what ever its called in windows and see if your symptom(s) persist05:33
puxavidaok05:34
tatertotzpuxavida: also stop using any and all hibernation and power saving techniques used in windows and see if your symptom(s) persist05:35
puxavidaok05:35
puxavidaturned off fast boot, but still no wifi - i unplugged wired to make sure wifi only showed05:38
tatertotzpuxavida: did wireless work when booted to livecd/liveusb ?05:39
lotuspsychjepuxavida: wich chipset is that?05:40
puxavidano i had usb c wired connected05:41
tatertotzwhich by the way you would have had to do when you installed ubuntu05:41
tatertotzlet me ask again in pure yes or no format05:41
tatertotzpuxavida: did wireless work when booted to livecd/liveusb ?05:41
tatertotzpuxavida: did wireless work when booted to livecd/liveusb ? yes or no05:42
tatertotzpuxavida: if you do not know.....go find out and return to report the result of the findings05:42
puxavidai had wired connect because it wifi wasn't working05:43
tatertotzok cool05:43
puxavidalotuspsychje, wifi chipset?05:43
tatertotzthat tells me wifi was NOT working when booted to Ubuntu 16.04 livecd/liveusb05:43
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lotuspsychjepuxavida: yeah brand name of your wifi card, you can findout with sudo lshw -C network05:44
tatertotzthat rules out human error and any evil end users do unknowingly05:44
tatertotzso yeah i got a straight up legit issue05:44
tatertotzpasses the smell test05:45
puxavida qualcomm atheros qca6174 80211ac05:45
lotuspsychjepuxavida: are you sure what tatertotz asked, wifi icon did not showup at liveusb? did you test that?05:46
tatertotzpuxavida: just show him your inxi05:46
puxavidawifi option is there in menu but it is always turned off and if you click on turn on it stays off05:47
tatertotzlotuspsychje: this is him http://paste.ubuntu.com/25978970/05:47
lotuspsychjepuxavida: you have a wifi switch/button on your computer?05:48
tatertotzit's not soft/hard blocked05:48
puxavidanot that i can see05:49
tatertotzhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25978960/05:49
puxavidalotuspsychje, tatertotz help me do some command line stuff that picked up our wifi access points05:50
lotuspsychjetatertotz: tnx05:50
puxavidahelped me....05:50
tatertotzlotuspsychje: he's totally able to successfully pick up the SSID's around his geographical erea http://paste.ubuntu.com/25978960/05:50
tatertotzarea05:50
lotuspsychjepuxavida: did you choose to install restricted extras at ubuntu setup/update system enabled?05:50
puxavidayes - to see if wifi would start working when it wasn't during install05:51
lotuspsychjepuxavida: ubuntu version 16.04.3?05:52
puxavidayes .305:52
lotuspsychjegood05:52
puxavidaafter installing I updated05:53
lotuspsychjepuxavida: can you provide us the output of: tail -f /var/log/syslog after disable wifi and enable again?05:53
puxavidaok - will click enable in menu and get log05:54
tatertotzpuxavida: OH WAIT05:54
tatertotzpuxavida: you are hard/soft blocked05:54
tatertotzlotuspsychje: he's hard blocked05:55
lotuspsychjethat would sound logical05:55
tatertotzlotuspsychje: i saw the ssid's and called it preemptively, look at the very bottom http://paste.ubuntu.com/25978946/ puxavida you can look too05:56
tatertotzsays hardblocked=yes05:56
puxavidawill paste changes from tail -f I got05:56
tatertotzwhy..just try the switch05:57
puxavidahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25979089/05:58
puxavidawhat is hard/soft blocked?05:59
puxavidalike it only works in windows?05:59
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tatertotzNov 16 22:55:30 yox NetworkManager[786]: <info>  [1510898130.8087] audit: op="radio-control" arg="wireless-enabled:1" pid=1915 uid=1000 result="success"06:00
tatertotzpuxavida: what is the current local time?06:00
puxavida11pm (2300)06:00
tatertotzso bout 5 min ago06:01
puxavidayes06:01
tatertotzpuxavida: i think i've seen this before06:01
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>    lsmod|grep wmi|pastebinit06:02
puxavidahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25979107/06:04
puxavidawmi is ideapad_laptop06:04
tatertotzmmmhhmmm06:06
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>    lsmod|grep deap|pastebinit06:06
puxavidahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25979122/06:07
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>    sudo rmmod ideapad_laptop06:09
tatertotztry now06:10
puxavidadone06:10
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>    nmcli d s|pastebinit06:10
puxavidahttp://paste.ubuntu.com/25979133/06:11
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>    sudo apt install sosreport06:13
tatertotzpuxavida: let me know when its done06:13
puxavidadone06:13
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>    sudo sosreport06:13
tatertotzpuxavida: skip questions you can't answer by pessing enter06:13
tatertotzpuxavida: let me know when its done06:14
puxavidaok. it create a file in /tmp06:15
puxavidacreated06:15
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>    sudo chown 1000:1000 /tmp/sos*06:15
tatertotzpuxavida: let me know when its done06:15
puxavidadone06:16
tatertotzpuxavida: in terminal>    sudo mv /tmp/sos* ~/06:17
tatertotzpuxavida: let me know when its done06:17
puxavidaok done06:18
tatertotzpuxavida: go to https://filebin.net and upload the two report files located in your home folder. Then share the url/link here06:18
puxavidahttps://filebin.net/2jfezdlm9wugaks006:20
bobdobbsI'm using 14.04. How can I upgrade to latest LTS?06:25
nacc!ltsupgrade | bobdobbs06:26
ubottubobdobbs: The automatic LTS upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 was scheduled when 16.04.1 LTS was released on July 21st, but due to last bug testings it has been opened on July 28th.06:26
naccbobdobbs: just use the release upgrader06:27
naccbobdobbs: either update-manager or `sudo do-release-upgrade`06:27
bobdobbsIf I start the update-manager, I get panel with the message 'failed to download repository information'. If I type 'do-release-upgrade' from terminal as root, I get the message 'no new release found'06:28
naccbobdobbs: does `sudo apt update` work?06:29
bobdobbsKinda. It works with some errors. I'll pastebin them...06:30
naccbobdobbs: do-release-upgrade should definitelyw ork, and if it doesn't i'd check your repositories are correct06:30
bobdobbshttps://hastebin.com/vopazomima.php06:31
bobdobbshow do check if my repositories are correct?06:31
bobdobbsOne of the reasons I'm asking is because I'm stuck at step one of this documents: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes06:36
bobdobbsIt says to open the "software and updates setting in system settings""06:36
bobdobbsbut for the life of me I can't find 'System Settings'06:37
bobdobbsI can find 'All Settings'. This has a search function. The search function is unable to find anything that matches 'update'06:38
[n0mad]Software and updates isn't in settings06:39
batteronizerHi can someone tell me (authoratatively :-D) if we can mix RAMs of different frequencies but same DDR type?06:39
bobdobbsWhat I want to avoid is manually updating using a usb06:39
bobdobbs(or cd or dvd or whatever)06:39
batteronizerE.g. DDR3 667 MHz with a higher frequency DDR306:39
[n0mad]Software and updates is in your programs06:41
bobdobbsI'm not sure what that means. I usually start programs from either the 'Activities' bar or from a terminal.06:42
puxavidatatertotz, I need to leave.  If you have any more input could you post here?  I'll check tomorrow.  Thanks for help06:43
bobdobbsIn the 'Activities' bar there is a cog icon. And if I hover over it the tooltip says 'settings'. But nothing happens if I click on it.06:45
bobdobbsMy preference would be to use the command line.06:46
[n0mad]You were given the command line earlier06:46
Bashing-ombobdobbs: Check /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades for what it is set to .06:46
bobdobbs[n0mad]: yes. and using the command fails as well. 'do-release-upgrade' returns "no new releases found". I was then told to check my repositories. But I'm not sure what that means.06:48
bobdobbsBashing-om:06:48
bobdobbsBashing-om: https://hastebin.com/agigedoqik.sql06:48
tatertotzpuxavida: I do see a few things that give me concern, next time we get to chat we'll discuss06:51
bobdobbsSo I guess my system doesn't think that a new release exists. How can I convince it that it does? A strongly-worded letter? Interpretive dance?06:54
hateballbobdobbs: from what to what are you looking to upgrade?06:55
bobdobbshateball: from 14.04 to 16.0406:55
hateballRight, hmmm06:55
Bashing-ombobdobbs: Well, correct setting - given that you are on 14.04 .06:55
DaemonFCIt's interesting that core parts of GNOME are "unsupported" but Ubuntu did change the search referrer links to "Canonical" in Web. :/06:57
campitorhello everyone07:12
campitorIs ubuntu updated for KRACK vulnerability?07:13
campitorI mean would I be safe if I start a wifi hotspot in ubuntu?07:13
hateballcampitor: Yes07:16
hateballcampitor: https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3455-1/07:16
campitorthank you hateball07:17
gordonjcpmorning07:18
gordonjcpis there a quick and easy way to upgrade to Firefox 56?  Mine's just been swapped for 5707:18
diskingordonjcp, you mean, downgrade?07:20
gordonjcpdiskin: upgrade07:20
gordonjcpdiskin: 57 is a lot worse07:20
gordonjcpmy desktop machine only has 16GB of RAM, so it can't really cope with 5707:21
diskinwow, I read on HN that in 57 they improved memory consumption...07:21
DaemonFCI'm already on Firefox 58 beta 4. (Mozilla Team PPA)07:22
diskingordonjcp, https://askubuntu.com/questions/18654/how-to-prevent-updating-of-a-specific-package07:22
oerheks16 gb and not running FF 57 properly?07:22
mr_louHelp. :-(  Wine suddenly doesn't detect my Blu-ray Disc Burner anymore, and this couldn't happen at a worse time. :-(07:22
DaemonFCIt's a bad idea to stop Firefox from being upgraded.07:22
gordonjcpoerheks: all four cores at 100% CPU, most of the memory used by firefox07:23
DaemonFCThere is no support for older versions, so no security issues that are found will be fixed.07:23
oerheksgordonjcp, check your plugins?07:23
gordonjcpDaemonFC: it's a bad idea to ship Firefox "updates" that don't work07:23
gordonjcpoerheks: no plugins07:23
oerheksgordonjcp, or tr FF in safe mode?07:23
gordonjcpoerheks: I even moved .mozilla out of the way and let it create a new "clean slate" one07:23
diskingordonjcp, how many tabs? flash banners perhaps?07:23
DaemonFCWorks fine for me. Must be something wrong on your end. Have you tried refreshing your profile?07:23
gordonjcpdiskin: no tabs, this is just it on the "opening screen"07:23
oerheksfirefox -safe-mode07:24
gordonjcpDaemonFC: like I just said, I moved .mozilla out of the way07:24
DaemonFCThe only thing I noticed about 57 was that it was a _LOT_ faster.07:24
gordonjcpDaemonFC: no, it's taking about five minutes to render a page07:24
gordonjcpand the UI is pretty much unusable07:25
DaemonFCThat's not the general consensus.07:25
gordonjcp<shrug>07:26
gordonjcpit's slower here, and I don't like the UI07:26
kostkonmr_lou, add the drive back in winecfg07:26
gordonjcpand no plugins work in it07:26
ducassestill, running a browser that doesn't get security patches is not a solution07:27
gordonjcpducasse: I'm open to other suggestions07:27
ducasseswitch to chromium if you don't like the way ff is going? or another browser, for that matter.07:28
gordonjcpducasse: maybe someone will come up with a theme for it that fixes those unstyled tabs07:30
causativesometimes I see duplicate applications in Software, one from Ubuntu or a recognized source with reviews, another from an unknown source... is this a problem? malware?07:31
oerheksyou name 2 things, high cpu use, and UI you don't like, we can only try to help with cpu issue..07:31
gordonjcpoerheks: I think the high CPU and memory use is just inherent to it07:31
ducassegordonjcp: btw, it sounds to me like there might be something else causing your problems. i just tested ff57 on an ancient core i3 notebook with 4gb ram, works like a charm. speedier than chromium.07:31
AfdlaI compiled check with these instructions: https://github.com/libcheck/check/tree/0.12.0 but still when I run "check", I get "No command check found". Why is this?07:32
gordonjcpthere's literally nothing in the profile, it's a completely clean .mozilla07:32
AfdlaOk, had to run "sudo make install". This was not in the github documentation but on their website..07:34
diskingordonjcp, perhaps you can run strace to find out what is going on. or, run as another Linux user to check that there is nothing in your account is affecting it07:37
gordonjcpdiskin: I need to head out to work now, but later on I'll just spin up a clean install of Ubuntu on an identical machine and see what it does07:39
mr_louI need help. :-(  Lost my Blu-ray burner after an update apparently. Need to burn a lot of discs right now. It's worked fine for years.07:41
oerhekseject && eject -t # does it open and close?07:43
mr_louI can view contents of a Blu-ray disc fine - but no burner apps will detect the drive.07:43
mr_louoerheks, Yes, that works fine.07:43
oerheksoh oke, you *can* read from it07:44
mr_louI've been using ImgBurn with Wine (because no Linux apps will burn UDF 2.5). But neither ImgBurn or other burner apps will find the drive.07:44
mr_louBeen working fine for years. Now all of the sudden (naturally when I have a deadline) the drive just isn't detected.07:47
Ben64so the issue is wine doesn't see it07:49
diskinmr_lou, do native linux apps see it properly, as a burner?07:50
mr_loudiskin, Doesn't look like it. Trying with wodim -v my.iso just says there's not enough room. It's as if it thinks it's just a CD or DVD... or something.07:51
mr_loudiskin, What's the "best" burner app?07:51
Ben64k3b?07:51
diskinyes, also wanted to mention k3b.07:51
mr_louTried that. Doesn't appear to be any Blu-ray ISO burn option.07:51
mr_louWill look again.07:51
mr_louSays the same as wodim. Not enough space.07:54
diskinmr_lou, run sudo lshw -c disk and check what is it saying about your cdrom capabilities07:54
diskinalso, did you check other disks?07:55
mr_louYes. Tried a few now.07:55
mr_loulshw -c disk sees the drive as DVD-RAM writer.07:56
mr_louDon't know what it used to see.07:57
mr_louAll I know is that I've been burning Blu-rays fine for years using ImgBurn with Wine.07:57
mr_louSome update has screwed it up somehow.07:57
gordonjcpmr_lou: have you got some Ubuntu install media?  Have you tried booting off a live disk, and seeing what a totally unpatched fresh-out-the-box version would see?07:58
mr_louNo07:58
gordonjcpmight be worth a shot07:59
diskingordonjcp, also, do you have a DVD-R (or RW) to check? And what is in the "capabilities" line of lshw output?08:00
gordonjcpdiskin: no, I haven't had any sort of optical media for about 15 years08:01
mr_lougordonjcp, "removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram"08:01
diskingordonjcp, oh, I sent to you instead of mr_lou, sorry!08:02
gordonjcpdiskin: no worries :-)08:02
gordonjcpmr_lou: is that the same as what you get when you're booted up normally?08:02
mr_lougordonjcp, This is normal boot. I don't have a live disc at the moment.08:03
gordonjcpah, okay08:03
mr_louSeems I have to put the drive in the girlfriends windoze machine, and burn from there. :-(08:03
alkisgGood morning all :)08:16
ducassehi alkisg :)08:17
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stevenmcrazy question - can I use a 4.2 kernel with ubuntu 16.04 ?08:34
geirhaYou actually want a kernel that is *older* than the oldest version available in 16.04's repos?08:36
xcom169hello all!08:36
stevenmgeirha, unfortunately yeah :S08:36
ducassewhy?08:36
alkisgI've booted Ubuntu 16.04 with kernel 3.13, it worked, but I only tested for a couple of minutes...08:36
stevenmthis particular ubuntu desktop I use at work... and work have decided I *must* install "Symantec Encryption Desktop" (the new name for PGP Desktop) which includes a kernel module for transparently decrypting/encrypting PGP encrypted files on the network shares.08:37
stevenmunfortunately symantec haven't bothered to update their C code since 2011 and it doesn't compile in correctly on anything that is 4.3 or newer08:37
ducassewell, you won't be getting automatic security patches or support, you will need to handle both of those yourself08:39
geirhaso in order to get this Symantec Encryption Desktop installed, you have to decrease the security of the system08:40
ducassebetter to pester symantec to get with the program08:40
oerheksonly supported on 14.04 https://support.symantec.com/en_US/article.TECH234479.html08:46
xcom169Hello! Anyone here familiar with the badram module?08:54
slabsterhello people :)08:56
AlienCathello, I am using wayland and the graphics tablet cannot be found09:00
AlienCathowever the wacom settings page find it09:00
AlienCatbut not xsetwacom09:00
AlienCator gimp09:00
xcom169Anyone here dealt with the BadRam kernel module?09:04
slabsterhm ... nobody is chatty around here09:04
EriC^^slabster: it's cause its the tech support channel, try joining #ubuntu-offtopic09:05
slabsteroh , thank you :)09:05
EriC^^no problem :)09:05
slabsterEriC^^, since im alredy here09:06
slabsteri have this update ... and not sure if i should install it09:06
slabstermintupdate 5.2.1.109:06
EriC^^!info mintupdate09:06
ubottuPackage mintupdate does not exist in artful09:07
EriC^^slabster: are you using linux mint?09:07
slabsteryeah , the ldx version09:07
stevenmoerheks, except for 14.04.5 :) which brings in kernel 4.4 - i've seen it already09:08
EriC^^slabster: ah, try joining the linux mint server09:08
EriC^^!mint | slabster09:08
ubottuslabster: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)09:08
xcom169Or memmap also good for me09:09
EriC^^slabster: /server irc.spotchat.org    then /join #linuxmint-help09:09
slabsterwow , thanks a lot :)09:09
EriC^^sure thing :)09:09
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KopfgeldjaegerHi! Since a few months (Ubuntu Gnome 17.04 then, Ubuntu 17.10 now) all keyboard shortcuts with SHIFT are not recognized (it's as if I did not press SHIFT at all). So e.g. I cannot restore the last closed tab (with CTRL-SHIFT-T), but would accidentally open a new tab in browsers. Any ideas?10:33
Vamp898Where can i get an DEB Package for the current proprietary AMD driver?10:36
EriC^^Vamp898: http://support.amd.com/en-us/download10:38
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Vamp898EriC^^: I already looked there, but i was not able to get an DEB package there :(10:41
Vamp898EriC^^: or does it include a tool to build the DEB? ill just check it :D10:41
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jason85How can I disable gnome on my ubuntu system, so that i boot directly into console with login prompt?10:44
Ben64!text | jason8510:45
ubottujason85: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode10:45
fenixubottu: text?10:47
ubottufenix: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:47
fenixsingle10:47
fenixquite 3 single10:47
fenixthen u have only text mode10:48
fenixubottu: don't worry m210:48
ubottufenix: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)10:48
fenixubottu: aha aha10:48
fenix:)10:48
_pronet_@Fuchs are you online?11:10
FManTropyxdoes Ubuntu come with a PDF viewer program?11:29
Era_Hello. I'm trying to install an application through a deb file, but it requires gtk-sharp2, but I cannot install it, says I 'have held broken packages'11:30
Ben64Era_: you should install things only from the ubuntu repositories or PPAs for your ubuntu version11:33
hateballFManTropyx: Yes11:37
mutanteFManTropyx: several. xpdf, qpdfview, katarakt, mupdf, avlv... and more11:38
hateballFManTropyx: I think Ubuntu uses Evince by default, while Kubuntu uses Okular, and so on. Regardless of DE there should be a default PDF viewer installed11:39
FManTropyxmutante, I don't have any of those -- evince appears to eixst11:39
FManTropyxit appears to work: thank you!11:40
Era_Ben64: The deb file is for ubuntu tho11:42
Ben64Era_: deb file is not a repository11:43
Era_Ben64, even so, can I not install gtk-sharp2?11:43
Era_Ben64, gtk-sharp2 is in the official repos, and yet I cannot install it, due to the dependencies11:44
Ben64Era_: probably because you installed other stuff from weird places...11:44
Ben64Era_: pastebin 'apt-cache policy gtk-sharp2; sudo apt install gtk-sharp2'11:45
fenixEra_: Try with -f option11:46
Era_https://pastebin.com/ZcFavW6u11:46
Era_I get the same output with or without -f11:46
Ben64Era_: pastebin 'sudo apt install gtk-sharp2 libglade2.0-cil-dev libglib2.0-cil-dev libgtk2.0-cil-dev'11:48
Era_https://pastebin.com/hDC4ZXHL11:49
Ben64and there you go11:49
Ben64you have some 3rd party repo enabled that messes it up11:50
fenixEra_: first delete application what u try install11:50
fenixdpkg -r name.deb11:50
fenixapt-get install --reinstall names_libs11:50
Lavinhogood morning11:51
Lavinhohow to install ubuntu 17.10 on acer es1-132 ?11:51
Lavinhohelp me please11:51
fenixput the cd and read the instruction11:52
Lavinhoinstall and reboot this message no bootable device11:52
fenixEra_: if not work check what version gtk u have gtk-launch --version11:52
Era_no flag --version fenix11:53
Lavinhohelp me please11:54
Lavinhoafter installing ubuntu reinico and it appears in the bootable device11:55
mboardLavinho: you are having UEFI?  I remember I had problems before because of this but cannot remember what I make to get it working11:57
Lavinhouefi only11:57
Lavinhobut disbale/enable secure boot11:57
mboardyou will need to check google for your computer, they are different11:58
Era_Ben64, fenix, I fixed it I think, just had to remove libglib2.0-cil12:08
Era_then it all installed properly12:08
zambahow do i change the ip address of a ubuntu server?12:10
zambai've edited /etc/network/interfaces12:10
zambaand i've tried issuing /etc/init.d/networking restart12:10
zambaand also ifdown ens32 ; ifup ens3212:10
zambato no avail12:10
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zambait still uses the old address12:10
zambagod damn.. a reboot worked.. linux has become windows12:11
oerhekssudo service networking restart # would do12:11
tatertotzlol12:12
ali1234i have a 16.04 server which is configured for unattended upgrades, but no upgrades are being installed12:13
ali1234the log shows that unattended-upgrades runs twice every day, it just doesn't install anything12:13
tomreynali1234: run it with -sd12:13
ali1234if i run "sudo unattended-upgrades --dry-run –debug" manually then it lists hundreds of packages that it wants to install12:13
oerheksali1234, what is the output of " sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade " ? this might install packages/kernel that has been held back12:14
tomreynactually --dry-run –debug is whati meant12:14
ali1234oerheks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25980570/12:15
oerhekshit 'y'12:16
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oerheksand then after reboot, run apt autoremove to clean unused kernels12:17
oerheksnow you can recieve unattended updates12:17
ali1234how does that fix the problem that upgrades aren't being installed manually?12:17
ali1234er, automatically?12:17
oerheksbecause of the kernel/components dependencies12:17
ali1234so it will break again the next time there is a kernel upgrade?12:18
EriC^^ali1234: look into /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*12:19
EriC^^ali1234: specifically 10periodic and 20auto-upgrades  "1" means on, "0" means off12:19
ali1234APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "1";12:20
auronandacei would have thought on a production server you would want to manage kernel updates manually12:20
ali1234and i know it runs the script every day, the script just refuses to install anything and exits silently12:20
ali1234auronandace: on a production server you would want to manage all updates manually12:20
ali1234unattended upgrades are pointless if they silently stop working every two weeks12:21
EriC^^try #ubuntu-server ?12:21
Vamp898Xorg have xinerama disabled per default. When i start lightdm, Xorg seems to use the Xinerama feature. Is there a way to tell ilghtdm to start Xorg without xinerama?12:22
EriC^^Vamp898: look into /etc/lightdm/12:23
FManTropyx"we’ll show some of the great articles, videos, and other pages you’ve recently visited" - that'll be extremely useful!12:24
Vamp898EriC^^: Seems like there is no way set this using lightdm, at least it is not mentioned here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lightdm-team/lightdm/trunk/view/head:/data/lightdm.conf12:27
EriC^^Vamp898: how did you install xinerama?12:31
aOssedI have a problem with my motd - it shows itself twice and only displays the static /etc/motd (twice.).   I can fix the double motd by outcommenting  the line in /etc/pamh./sshd12:38
Vamp898EriC^^: i did not, it is pulled in as dependency when you install xorg12:39
bobdobbslol. I finally managed to update from 14.04. I was trying to update to 16.04 but somehow ended up with 17.0412:47
bobdobbsI had to reinstall some nvidia stuff. But man... my system feels a lot faster12:48
bobdobbscould just be the new video drivers, I don't know.12:48
bobdobbsMy system looks the same as it did a few hours ago. But it just seems to respond faster12:49
oerheksreally, form 14.04 straight to 17.04?12:50
bobdobbsYeah. I was following the wiki on how to update to 16.04.12:51
bobdobbsbut for some reason I overshot the target12:52
bobdobbsI would have prefered 16.04. But I haven't stumbled across any horrible bugs so far12:52
bobdobbsso I might just wait for the next LTS12:53
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BluesKajHiyas all13:03
TheWildhello13:15
TheWildhow to check which version of given apt package is available for Ubuntu 16.04, actually being on Windows?13:16
donofrioapt-cache search?13:16
donofrioTheWild, you mean "windows 10?" (I use WSL too fwiw daily)13:16
mutanteTheWild: https://packages.ubuntu.com13:20
TheWildwow, found the package I needed and right, it's up to date. Thank you mutante13:22
timbozemanI have a nVidia GTX 1070 with 4 monitors. I bought a 5th monitor cause it has 5 holes, but turns out it only supports 5 monitors. What if I get another 1070 and connect them with SLI? Can I do 5 monitors then?13:33
timbozemanerr, I mean it only supports 4 monitors *13:35
BluesKajtimbozeman, do you actually need a 5th monitor ?13:46
timbozemanYeah, I'd do more if its possible13:47
BluesKajmore what ?13:47
timbozemanmonitors13:47
timbozemanmore monitors more better13:47
BluesKajsomeone else must have 5 monitors ......13:48
solata10hello all13:49
solata10i read somewhere on the net, that `ping` defaults are platform specific ... is there a way to change those defaults ? (without recompiling the `ping`)13:49
nick1234BluesKaj: I ahve 2 monitor setup at workdesk. More would look fancy but I cant visualize the usefulness of 5 or 4 monitors even. What could be the different usecases for 4 or 5 monitor setups13:52
JoniiHello. I tried to install qt5-default, but faced error "depends: qtbase5-dev but it is not going to be installed"13:53
JoniiWhich seems a bit weird, since I thought apt install would just automatically fetch dependencies as well?13:54
JoniiAnd since it doesn't, I'm not sure how to proceed13:54
BluesKajthink 3 is the max mosty users can properly keep track , reada study of brokers and wall street usage, 3 seemed to be most users could handle with proficiency13:55
BluesKajnick1234,^13:56
BluesKajJonii, try to install  qtbase5-dev13:57
JoniiIt forms a chain of dependencies that are not going to be installed, should I follow that path?13:58
nick1234BluesKaj: :-)13:58
Jonii"Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."13:59
JoniiAlso this seems to go back to wayland packages. I just upgraded into ubuntu 17.10 from 17.04, and I'm not sure I have any wayland stuff installed :p13:59
JoniiAlso some of these messages deeper down are like "17.4~git28372324.d8382~oibaf~z is to be installed"14:00
BluesKajJonii, take the last dependency and try installing thet one, sometimes the others will fall into line, otherwise run sudo dpkg --configure -a , then sudo apt -f install14:02
BluesKajthet-that14:02
timbozemanBluesKaj, I use it for programming. It's really nice to spread out all the files your working on and database tables etc. Really a force multiplier for your brain14:03
timbozemanI do mainly use 1 screen, just nice to have all the references at hand14:04
BluesKajToAruShiroiNeko, users brains acan only handle so many "mulitpiers" :-)14:04
ducasseJonii: looks like you have one or more ppas installed - purge those and it should install fine14:05
BluesKajoops timbozeman^14:05
BluesKajhey ducasse , good call..should have asked that first14:05
SpacebearHas anyone had an issues where if you do two windows side by side, then click onto one, the other one minimizes?14:14
Spacebearthis is on xorg and wayland sessions14:15
Alfonso_Hi everybody. Ever since I updated Firefox to v57 (stable) on Ubuntu 16.04, text on certain sites isn't rendered. See e.g. github.com or youtube.com. Does anyone else experience this?14:28
Spacebearwas it from the ubuntu repos or the mozilla repos14:28
wasutton3_workso I've written "ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="17e9", ATTRS{idProduct}=="436e", ATTRS{iSerial}=="1703271171B", RUN+="/bin/sh /home/will/.screenlayout/Desk-Battlestation.sh"" as a udev rule. It doesn't seem to be running the script at the end. do you think its a permissions issue or is there something else going on?14:28
SpacebearSecond have you tried it with a new profile or your existing ff56 one Alfonso_14:28
hateballwasutton3_work: is the script chmod +x ?14:29
hateballwasutton3_work: oh I saw now the /bin/sh14:29
wasutton3_workyea14:29
Alfonso_Spacebar: From Ubuntu's14:29
hateballwasutton3_work: any reason you're calling sh and not bash? as on ubuntu sh links to dash14:29
wasutton3_worki can execute /home/will/.screenlayout/Desk-Battlestation.sh" from the CLI14:30
SpacebearAlfonso_, try a new profile, launch firefox with -p14:30
Spacebearcreate a new profile and run form there14:30
hateballwasutton3_work: ah so it works manually with dash then, hmmm14:30
Alfonso_Will do14:30
Spacebearyou can also try toggling hardware acceleration. I've been using it since Beta and haven't had this crop up.14:30
Spacebearyou can also try an official moz version and see if its related to ubuntus mods14:30
Spacebear(also try it on wayland and xorg)14:31
frankie64good morning14:32
frankie64I am stuck with the apt-get failing due to dependency not met linux-headers-3.2.0-93-gerenric is not installed, and have tried to work arounf it but have not been successful14:33
Alfonso_Spacebar: Same problem with a new profile...14:34
frankie64looking for some help14:34
SpacebearAlfonso_, can you show me a screenshot?14:34
Spacebearalso what sort of graphics driver are you uisng?14:34
Spacebear(i.e intel, amd or nvidia)14:35
Alfonso_Spacebar: I'm new to IRC, how can I upload a screenshot?14:35
Spacebearuse the screenshot tool, then upload to imgur/any image host14:35
Spacebearthen paste the link in here14:35
Spacebearor pm it to me14:36
adrian_1908frankie64: what Ubuntu version?14:40
frankie6414.0414:41
frankie64i was thinking of downloading the 3.2.0-93 and manually installing it14:42
adrian_1908there is the "force" (-f) option, you may want to try.14:42
Alfonso_Spacebar: Screenshots are here: https://imgur.com/a/M0SMa14:43
SpacebearAlfonso_, hit ctrl A14:43
Spacebeardoes anything show up when hilighted?14:44
frankie64i have b een googling this for an hour, and have tried -f...not working14:44
frankie64it says its 'not installable'14:44
frankie64the was about 50 kernels on there, but i am down to 214:44
adrian_1908frankie64: sorry, no idea then. I can't give advice if manual installation is a good idea, future-update wise.14:45
Alfonso_Spacebar: No, nothing! Symbolized elements are clickable, but there's simply no text at all...14:46
SpacebearAlfonso_, that is very odd! remove firefox then try re-installing14:46
Spacebearthen if that doesn't work, you will have to fetch a mozilla release and compile it your self.14:46
Spacebear(the ubuntu and moz folks will ask you to do this to file a bug report)14:47
Alfonso_Thanks, will try14:47
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tomreyni dont think they would14:52
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vegiiwell fug, seems I restarted my PC by touching it with some ESD and uh, it was under load and everything is fine until logon screen, but I get black screen afterwards15:04
Joniiducasse:15:08
JoniiJonii: looks like you have one or more ppas installed - purge those and it should install fine15:08
JoniiUmm, how do I purge them?15:08
JoniiWhere are they? What? :O15:08
frankie64---> <adrian_1908>, i went to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/amd64/linux-headers-3.2.0-93-generic/3.2.0-93.133, downloaded the file, did a manual dpkg --install of the file and now everything is hunky dory lol15:22
adrian_1908frankie64: Cool man, glad you found a solution! :)15:23
nickoeHello15:26
nickoeI have an old machine with 12.04 LTS, but do-release-update  does not return any updates, nor with the -d ootion15:27
nickoeid it ok to just change the nickname in the sources.list file and then update and upgrade?15:28
iorianickoe, you're out of support . How old is that pc ? what's its specifics ?15:29
donofrionickoe, try changing sources.list the doing dist-upgrade (just a guess)15:30
donofrionickoe, guessing your a ppc user?15:30
nacc!eolupgrade | nickoe15:35
ubottunickoe: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:35
naccfrankie64: 3.2.0 is not a supported ubuntu kernel on any current release15:36
Azureushelp me please15:38
nacc!ask | Azureus15:38
ubottuAzureus: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:38
Azureusacer es1-132 no bootable device after installation ubuntu 17.1015:39
ioriaAzureus, oh, that's a terrible piece of hw15:39
Azureusno installation linux ?15:40
Azureuson device15:40
ioriaAzureus, dual boot with win 10 ?15:40
Azureusno boot15:44
Azureuslist linux15:45
Azureusonly windows15:45
Azureusno list linux, only windows boot15:45
Azureusbut boot usb normaly15:46
ioriaAzureus, ok, you can try to run this command from Win (as adm) : bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi     or read this : https://askubuntu.com/questions/918083/bios-not-seeing-ubuntu-installed-on-acer-aspire-es1-132-can-boot-via-grub-cli15:47
ducasseAzureus: haven't you gotten help with this a couple of days in a row now?15:47
Azureusno15:48
fbntsHi, I am having issue with an ubuntu 16.04.3 server which keeps randomly hanging and requiring a hard power reset.  I have managed to find the Kernel panic in the log afterwards but I am stuck.  The extract from the log is: https://pastebin.com/n2rtAx9h15:53
fbntsit seems to refer to tty_poll but I can't find where this is and what is calling it15:53
naccfbnts: it is in the kernel15:54
fbntsnacc: ah ok, is there anyway from the log entry to work out what is causing the hanging?  I have applied all updates to no avail.15:55
naccfbnts: it would appear you haven't. your kernel is out of date15:56
naccfbnts: you should be -98, not -9715:56
fbntsah sorry, that extract was from the kernel panic yesterday.  I have since applied the new kernel: uname -r gives 4.4.0-98-generic15:57
naccfbnts: oh ok15:57
naccfbnts: you could try the newer hwe kernel, to see if it's fixed15:58
naccfbnts: or file a bug or debug yourself https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelOops15:58
fbntsnacc: I think debugging it myself may be a little too far but I'll take a look and if not, file a bug report.  I just wasn't sure if it was something stupid that I was doing/done that was causing it16:00
naccfbnts: it might be interesting to try and reproduce it without the vbox drivers16:01
naccfbnts: not sure if the ubuntu kernel devs will care16:01
fbntsnacc: the problem is I can't reliably predict when it will happen.  It was once a month or so for the last few months, but then becoming more frequent (its hung about 4 times in the last week)16:02
elachecheHey! Why I can't find the alternate ISO in here → http://releases.ubuntu.com/17.10/ ?16:03
CTxCBI have a Samsung HM250JI 260GB 2.5" HDD, which is connected to a USB port (because it's part of a Freecom ToughDrive). I can use the drive fine, but I have a problem...  The drive randomly locks up and Ubuntu is unable to read or write to it, and when doesn't spin down the drive when trying to safely remove it.16:03
alkisgelacheche: afaik only lubuntu ships the alternate iso nowadays16:04
nacchttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/17.10/release/16:07
naccit is listed there, elacheche, alkisg16:07
koichiroseHello! On one of my server, the motd always shows that “0 packages can be updated” whereas on other servers this is autoupdated. I guess that nothing is running in the background to update that. What do I need to do to fix it?16:09
nacckoichirose: are they running the same version of ubuntu?16:11
alkisgkoichirose: this updates motd: /etc/cron.weekly/update-notifier-common:/usr/lib/ubuntu-release-upgrader/release-upgrade-motd16:12
koichirosenacc: yes, 16.04. Actually, one of them is running ubuntu desktop (it’s my home server)16:12
naccalkisg: that's the is there a new release motd section16:12
alkisgand this: /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99update-notifier16:13
koichirosealkisg: do I have to put 99update-notifier in the root user’s cron?16:14
alkisgkoichirose: no, just check that those files are there16:14
koichirosealkisg: they are16:14
alkisgYou don't have to configure anything to make them work...16:14
nacckoichirose: that file is for configurationn. and when apt update runs, then the motd is updated16:15
koichirosenacc: do I have to run apt update manually, then?16:15
nacckoichirose: or set up unattended-upgrades (which will do the update but onnly upgrade what you say)16:16
nacc(i don't believe u-u can do selective updates)16:16
Coolerhey16:17
Coolerhow do you combine multiple internet connections?16:18
OpenSorceI've got Ubuntu installed on my tablet that came with Win 10. I can boot it up and run it fine after install but when I reboot I get an efi shell. How do I boot from this?16:18
ortsvorsteher!efi16:19
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI16:19
alkisgkoichirose: sudo cat /var/lib/update-notifier/updates-available; sudo apt-get update; sudo cat /var/lib/update-notifier/updates-available;16:19
alkisgkoichirose: do the file contents change between apt-get update calls?16:20
koichirosealkisg: unfortunately I just ran apt update && upgrade, so I have 0 upgradable packages16:20
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alkisgkoichirose: so anyway, apt-daily systemd task runs apt-get update, which runs /usr/lib/update-notifier/update-motd-updates-available, which creates var/lib/update-notifier/updates-available,16:21
alkisgkoichirose: and finally,when someone logs in, the pam-motd package runs /etc/update-motd.d/* and produces /var/run/motd.dynamic,which contains the message you see when you log in16:22
koichiroseso anyway, apt-daily systemd task runs apt-get update <—how do I check if this is true?16:22
alkisgkoichirose: so you need to check which of those steps doesn't work for you16:22
ChunkzZanyone have an idea why 17.10 is saying device not managed under networkmanager?16:22
ChunkzZI change to true but still doesn't work...16:22
koichirosealkisg: to check all other steps, I simply need to run apt update, then log out and log back in to check the motd, right? If it changed, then it means that there’s no apt-daily task?16:23
alkisgkoichirose:  systemctl status apt-daily-upgrade; systemctl status apt-daily16:23
alkisgkoichirose: apt-daily runs as a service, i.e. on boot, not on login16:23
koichirosedaily-upgrade: Active: inactive (dead) since Fri 2017-11-17 06:17:46 CET; 11h ago16:24
alkisgkoichirose: that usually means "finished properly", unless you see any errors below that16:25
koichirosedaily: Active: inactive (dead) since Fri 2017-11-17 06:29:36 CET; 10h ago16:25
ioriaChunkzZ, check  /etc/network/interface16:25
koichirosethey should be fine: code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS16:25
koichirosealkisg: but now you’re talking about daily tasks, whereas before you were mentioning weekly tasks16:26
ChunkzZhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/iQvKjEAl/16:26
ChunkzZioria: ^16:26
alkisgkoichirose: nacc corrected me in that the weekly task is for release upgrades, not for updates16:26
koichiroseoh ok, sorry16:27
ioriaChunkzZ, sudo lshw -C Network16:27
koichiroseso it seems that something is not right. Before coming here I logged in, it said 0 updates in the motd. I ran apt update and I had 13 updates16:27
alkisgkoichirose: right, you need to see which of those steps are failing16:28
ipatrolI managed to break my display system after doing a presentation16:29
koichirosealkisg: how should I proceed?16:29
ipatrolI had plugged in my machine via HDMI to a projector and swapped the screens, and now that I'm disconnected it doesn't recognize my current screen as primary16:30
ipatroldespite being the only one16:30
ducasseipatrol: which release is this?16:34
ipatrolducasse: kubuntu 16.1016:34
ipatrolI have access to Ctrl-F2, thankfully, but none of the panels16:35
ducasse!eol | ipatrol16:35
ubottuipatrol: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:35
ipatrolducasse: point taken, but I can't upgrade until I fix my displays16:35
naccbit chicken and egg .. what you are on is unsupported16:36
ducasseipatrol: other than that, try 'xrandr --output <whatever> --primary'16:36
ipatrolducasse: what do I use for "whatever"?16:36
JoniiI got this advice from ducasse : "looks like you have one or more ppas installed - purge those and it should install fine"16:36
Ben64have you tried turning it off and then on again16:36
JoniiHow do I purge ppas. Which ppas?16:36
nacc!ppapurge | Jonii16:37
ubottuJonii: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html16:37
ipatrolBen64: literally, yes16:37
sazawalI am using Ubuntu Gnome. I can zoom in the desktop with Alt+Super+8 (+/-). Is there a terminal command for doing this?16:37
ducasseipatrol: look at the output from 'xrandr', use the output name that is listed as connected16:37
ipatrolducasse: tried and it didn't fix it. Xrandr output for my screen is "eDP1 connected primary 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 340mm x 190mm"16:38
Joniinacc, that doesn't answer which ppas. I don't see any way to check what ppas I even have16:38
ipatrolI wonder if that "inverted" is the problem. How would I change that?16:39
elachechealkisg nacc : Yep, only Lubuntu ships an alternate ISO.. Afaik, to UPGRADE Ubuntu offline you need an alternate ISO.. Or the new Desktop ISOs can do that too?16:40
ducasseJonii: look under /etc/apt/sources.list.d - there's usually one file for each16:41
BluesKajJonii, look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for the ppas you can delete them there with root permissions, the sudo apt update16:42
BluesKajthen16:42
Joniiducasse, which ppas I should remove? Can I remove ones that belong to previous versions of Ubuntu? Any others?16:42
JoniiLike, currently I have almost all of those disabled, as indicated by Software & Updates thing which lets me see those16:43
Ben64Jonii: just disabling them doesn't remove the packages, which is why ppa-purge exists16:44
ducasseJonii: 'disabled' is very different from 'purged' - the packages from them are still installed.16:44
JoniiSo purging any of those risks my computer becoming bricked?16:44
nicomachusno...16:45
JoniiWhich ones I can remove without risking bricking my computer?16:45
naccJonii: we don't know what you use or don't.16:45
Romanticanyone know what package has the gnome libnotify features? https://github.com/GNOME/libnotify?16:46
ChunkzZhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/U6CAYqQF/16:47
ChunkzZioria: ^16:47
brymhey all. ubuntu to ubuntu using remmina keeps failing; unable to connect to vnc server.16:47
Ben64brym: wrong ip, wrong port, firewall16:47
brymthinking firewall myself. ip/port are fine16:48
brymssh works fine too16:48
Joniinacc, I have no idea what I'm using really. I was told I have multiple ppas and therefore I can't install some package, and was told to purge "them"16:48
Ben64ssh isn't vnc16:48
JoniiAnd I don't know what "them" refers to. I don't want to just blindly go about purging stuff16:48
naccJonii: but you "blindly" installed stuff, it sounds like16:48
naccas root16:48
ioriaChunkzZ, don't you have wifi ?16:49
brymno it isn't. so failing vnc, doesn't ssh let you remote desktop?16:49
ChunkzZioria: nah, just ethernet.16:49
Ben64brym: it lets you remote shell16:49
Joniinacc, yeah. Installing some library seems less dangerous to me than purging every program that ever came from a particular source16:49
brymsomething about enabling x11 first?16:49
naccJonii: anything you do as root *can* be dangerous16:49
naccJonii: PPAs especially so!16:49
ChunkzZanyone got an idea how to solve it?16:50
ioriaChunkzZ, nmcli d show enp1s0 | grep STATE16:50
ChunkzZioria: GENERAL.STATE:                          10 (unmanaged)16:51
ioriaChunkzZ, not working at all or disconnecting ?16:51
ChunkzZit's working but it's saying device not managed.16:51
ipatrolOk, fixed it. Wasn't a display issue directly, but for whatever reason, giving the presentation removed all my panels16:52
ioriaChunkzZ, ls /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/ ?16:52
ChunkzZdefault-wifi-powersave-on.conf16:52
ioriaChunkzZ, sudo touch  /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/10-globally-managed-devices.conf        and sudo service network-manager restart16:53
ChunkzZioria: still saying the same..16:54
ioriaChunkzZ, i'd try a reboot, if you can16:55
ipatrol!upgrade16:55
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade16:55
JoniiBut for example, I have Ubuntu 17.10, and I have ppa called "CDROM with Ubuntu 16.10 Yakkety Yak"16:56
ChunkzZioria: rebooted and it says the same.16:56
ipatrolThat page doesn't have any information for Yakkety -> zesty16:57
ioriaChunkzZ, grep managed  /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf16:57
ChunkzZioria: managed=true16:58
ioriaChunkzZ, change it in 'false'16:58
Joniiis this the type of PPA the one that could hinder installing qt5-default ?16:58
JoniiOr what is the type of PPA that would be hindering installing qt5-default. How would I know?16:58
tgm4883Jonii: that's not a PPA16:59
JoniiOkay, what is a ppa? :O16:59
tgm4883nor would it prevent you from installing something16:59
tgm4883!ppa16:59
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge16:59
ChunkzZioria: still saying the same16:59
ChunkzZioria: managed=false17:00
ChunkzZrestarted the service too17:00
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ipatrolOf course, my install is littered with PPAs because I have a frequent need for bleeding-edge software17:01
JoniiOkay, I think I know the suspect PPA17:02
ioriaChunkzZ, dmesg | grep -i enp1s017:02
Joniibut ppa-purge doesn't have autocomplete17:02
ipatrolI'd probably be on Arch if I didn't have enough headaches already17:02
JoniiI don't know how to name that ppa to that command17:02
ipatrol</rant>17:02
JoniiAll examples I find just have <ppa name here> as parameter to ppa-purge17:02
ChunkzZhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PMmY7e1n/17:02
ChunkzZioria: ^17:03
naccJonii: it will be ppa:... The url i the sources.list file can be opened, and will tell you the string to use.17:03
ipatrol!do-release-upgrade17:03
naccipatrol: your comments make little sense taken together. You are on an EOL release but need bleeding edge software?17:04
nicomachus!info do-release-upgrade > ipatrol17:04
ipatrolnacc: I wasn't aware I was on an EOL until you told me17:04
naccipatrol: then i don't know why you think you need bleeding edge software.17:04
ChunkzZugh this sucks17:04
naccipatrol: it feels like you are missing some rather obvious bits of information.17:04
ipatrolnacc: I was unaware because Muon has not offered me to upgrade, despite being configured to do so17:05
ioriaChunkzZ,  /etc/network/interfaces.d  is empty ?17:05
ChunkzZhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Vurn08ys/17:06
ChunkzZioria: ^17:06
naccipatrol: i mean you installed a version and didn't know how long it was supported for. Yet want bleeding edge software.17:06
ipatrolnacc: the Zesty info for Kubuntu says "If for some reason Discover does not offer you the upgrade to 17.04, but you know it is available, then you can open Krunner, or Konsole (or other terminal), and run: "17:06
naccipatrol: i have never used kubuntu, dunno17:06
ipatrolnacc: it's specialty software that I need bleeding-edge, not the whole environment17:06
ioriaChunkzZ,  what's that ?17:07
ChunkzZioria: what you asked for...17:07
ChunkzZwhat's in /etc/network/interfaces.d17:08
ipatrolI have some programs that are unusable in the release version because of some critical bug that no one noticed17:08
ChunkzZI give up lol off to re-install.17:08
ioriaChunkzZ,  ls  /etc/network/interfaces.d17:08
ipatrolI honestly think Ubuntu's repos could benefit from more runtime testing of packages, especially GUIs17:08
BluesKajioria,   /etc/network/interfaces.d is empty here too17:09
ipatrolSo I have to install the dev versions because they're the only ones that work17:09
ioriaBluesKaj, yeah17:09
naccipatrol: you are running an *EOL* release. It no longer gets bugfixes.17:10
BluesKajprobly because I'm using staic IP and NM is removed17:10
naccipatrol: so perhaps you would benefit from using a supported release.17:10
BluesKajstatic17:10
nicomachus!eolupgrades | ipatrol follow this, then come back when you're on a supported release17:11
ubottuipatrol follow this, then come back when you're on a supported release: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:11
ducasseioria: it hasn't gotten any since june, no security patches either17:11
ducasseipatrol: ^^17:11
ducassesorry, ioria17:11
ipatrolnacc: that's why I'm trying to sort out my upgrade situation. I really don't know why Kubuntu isn't automatically asking me to update17:12
ipatrolconsidering that all my packages are up-to-date within the release17:12
ipatrolnacc: I think a lot of those bugs have been like that since before the EOL date, but I digress. I'll upgrade as soon as I get home this evening. Ciao, and have a good weekend y'all17:14
bokchoyhello, what is necessary to get a 32 bit, fully statically linked binary running on a 64 bit ubuntu derivative? is it true that all that such a binary needs is the kernel? it may be a graphical application. someone asked for help over the phone, but i don't recall the specific error. "ldd" reported no dyn libs, and "file" said it was a static 32 bit intel ELF, is this possible to run on a 64 bit system?17:15
StumpDumbsince upgrading from ubuntu 16.04 to 17.10, firefox has Crashed everytime I use it....can some one help me resolve this.17:22
nathaneltitanequestion: attempting to build a qt5 application and i keep stumbling on QTMain.cpp:3:17: fatal error: qgl.h: No such file or directory #include <qgl.h>17:23
nathaneltitanei've installed all required packages and looked into other requirements for the build but there is no directory for qgl.h for qt517:24
nathaneltitanelocate command lists gl.h under qt4 only17:24
TJ-bokchoy: a good question; in theory it should be fine.17:24
nathaneltitanedoes anyone know which qt5 package i need to get that build going?17:25
CTxCBI have a Samsung HM250JI 2.5" HDD (a Freecom ToughDrive USB Device) which doesn't spin down when trying to safely remove it, and sometimes Ubuntu freezes when reading / writing and I have to restart the device.17:25
CTxCBI'd like to install Ubuntu on to it, so any suggestions would be helpful.17:25
TJ-nathaneltitane: looks like libqt5opengl5-gles-dev17:26
bokchoyTJ-: thanks! :)17:26
nathaneltitanebokchoy: already installed17:26
TJ-bokchoy: I'm testing it in a container now; give me a mo (trying the 32-bit busybox-static)17:26
bokchoythanks :)17:27
nathaneltitanebokchoy: that's gles btw, i need standard openGL17:27
bokchoynathaneltitane: i think you mean to ping TJ-17:28
nathaneltitaneoops17:28
nathaneltitanemy bad17:29
bokchoyno worries :)17:29
nathaneltitanetoo many windows lol17:29
naccnathaneltitane: what version of ubutu?17:29
TJ-bokchoy: busybox-static i386 works in a 64-bit 16.04 container17:29
nathaneltitaneTJ: already installed, i need the standard opengl17:29
ducassenacc: try libqt5opengl5-dev17:29
naccnathaneltitane: --^17:29
donofrioStumpDumb, run it from "Terminal" and see what it's having an issue with17:29
bokchoyTJ-: thanks for the test :)17:29
nathaneltitaneducasse: already installed as well17:30
TJ-nathaneltitane: the other package with that file is libqt5opengl5-dev17:30
nathaneltitanelocate only shows gl.h present for qt4 subdir17:30
naccnathaneltitane: locate is the wrong command to use17:30
naccnathaneltitane: that is saerchign your filesystem, not hte packages17:30
naccnathaneltitane: use apt-file search17:30
TJ-nathaneltitane: if the project's ./configure isn't finding it you'll need to read the configure code, see how it is testing for it17:30
nathaneltitanetj17:30
nathaneltitaneTJ-: alrigt17:31
naccnathaneltitane: what version of ubuntu?17:31
naccit would really help to answer that17:31
TJ-nathaneltitane: "dpkg -S qgl.h"17:31
nathaneltitaneTJ-: seems like its  the gles package17:32
nathaneltitaneok gonna figure it out17:32
nathaneltitanethanks17:32
naccmy god. just answer the question.17:32
naccit does actually matter17:32
geniinacc: Like pulling teeth, apparently17:33
naccnathaneltitane: i'll ask one more time. What version of ubuntu?17:33
nathaneltitane17.0417:34
nathaneltitanesorry17:34
nathaneltitanemissed it17:34
naccboth libqt5opengl5-dev and libqt5opengl5-gles-dev ship that file17:34
nacc /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/QtOpenGL/qgl.h for amd6417:34
vaasuhi, today I did a package upgrade, now I cannot connect to a wifi enterprise network (although it is visible). my kernel is 4.4.0-98-generic, Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS. I manage to get the list of packages that were upgraded. It is available at http://paste.ubuntu.com/25982284/ . Have anyone noticed an issue with wifi today after an upgrade? Or are there known issues for the current upgrade in any of the packages mentioned?17:34
naccnathaneltitane: and you cannot have both libqt5opengl5-gles-dev *and* libqt5opengl5-dev installed. They conflict/replace each other.17:35
naccnathaneltitane: unless you manually did so, in which case, you are on your own.17:36
nathaneltitanei don't need gles, that'S for sure17:36
TJ-vaasu: any clues in /var/log/syslog - that's where Network Manager logs to17:36
nathaneltitaneno no, all automated17:36
naccnathaneltitane: ok. is libqt5opengl5-dev installed?17:37
nathaneltitaneyes17:37
nathaneltitanelet me attemt another build and see17:37
nathaneltitanebrb17:37
vaasuTJ-: I am browsing through it. I wonder has anyone else reported such an issue.17:37
TJ-nathaneltitane: as I said, check the ./configure script. I've seen lots of these where they're not written with Debian/Ubuntu in mind and don't use the proper method for checking for the presence of -dev files17:38
nathaneltitaneTJ-: debian/ubuntu is actually the main distro upon which it was developped17:38
TJ-nathaneltitane: what's the package ?17:38
nathaneltitaneLDView, pulled from git17:39
vaasuI think I found the reason : syslog said 'state change: need-auth -> failed (reason 'no-secrets')'17:40
vaasuso perhaps the stored password is forgotten i guess?17:41
TJ-nathaneltitane: from https://github.com/tcobbs/ldview ?17:43
nathaneltitaneTJ-: ya17:43
TJ-nathaneltitane: It's not using autoconf then. Looks like the only build instructions are for Windows in Build.txt.17:46
nathaneltitaneTJ-: Peter bartfai is responsible of the linux part of it17:46
nathaneltitanethe code for it is under QT17:46
TJ-nathaneltitane: you'll have to ask him then; it's not an Ubuntu issue as far as I can see17:47
nathaneltitaneTJ: i'm aware, i just wanted to make sure there was nothing wrong with the requirements or packages17:47
nathaneltitanethanks17:47
TJ-nathaneltitane: the QT/debian/control only Depends on QT4; QT5 is commented out17:48
sazawalWhat is the command for desktop zoom-in, which has a keyboard shortcut of Alt+Super+8 (+/-) ?17:49
StumpDumbop, gotta run, try term later. thx17:50
ducassesazawal: that's probably handled by the compositor rather than a separate program17:51
ducassesazawal: you could try 'xzoom', though, if this is on x11 - it will probably not work on wayland17:53
sazawalducasse, How do I find out if this is x11. Anyway, I will give xzoom a try now17:54
nathaneltitaneTJ: just to make sure, how do i explicitly call the qt5 make17:55
zarzar1what's a good way to allow remote desktop connection to an ubuntu machine?17:55
sazawalducasse, xzoom opened a new window which was zoomed in of my desktop. Can I zoom my desktop on my screen? just like Alt+Super+8 shortcut?17:56
TJ-nathaneltitane: The build system for that project is ... convoluted ... it's not clear and apparently not documented.17:56
nathaneltitaneTJ-: thanks for pointing it out, i'M very much aware, i'M the main debug tester for the binaries17:57
TJ-nathaneltitane: ouch!17:57
nathaneltitaneTJ-: yes17:57
nathaneltitaneso, how do i explicitly call the qt% make commande if qt5-make is installed17:57
nathaneltitaneqt5*17:57
TJ-nathaneltitane: "grep -rn qmake5 ." might give some clues and you can drill into it from there17:57
TJ-nathaneltitane: I saw some mention of it in if..else clauses17:58
ducassesazawal: no, that is most likely done by the compositor itself, not an external program17:58
TJ-nathaneltitane: check the QT/debian/rules makefile for example17:58
nathaneltitaneTJ-: sounds like qmake. probing my system gives me qmake and qmake-qt417:59
nathaneltitanegood17:59
sazawalducasse, I see. I am actually looking for a button on gnome shell for zoom-in. Now I have to use the Accessibility drop down menu and then zoom in. It needs two clicks plus I dont use the other functions in Accessibility. I was thinking to develop a gnome-shell-extension for this button on the top panel.18:00
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ducassesazawal: the functionality is probably exposed somehow, but that is a gnome issue, not an ubuntu issue18:04
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nathaneltitaneTJ-: so it's been building on qt4 all along,, although i have all the qt5 build essentials - when i run qmake -v it returns qt4/bin/qmake as non existent18:22
nathaneltitaneqt5 is detected by qtchooser but not used as default18:22
catbehemothhtop18:23
nathaneltitaneTJ-: scrap that, found it under /usr/lib/x86_....18:26
omginahello18:28
omginahow do i install gtent?18:28
omginathere is no such package?18:28
ducasseomgina: do you mean getent?18:29
omginayes18:29
ducasseomgina: should be installed already18:30
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EgoAleSumhello, what’s the equivalent of /etc/network/interfaces for 17.10?19:01
EgoAleSum(i need to set a static IP)19:01
naccEgoAleSum: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/zesty/man5/netplan.5.html19:04
naccsorry, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/artful/man5/netplan.5.html19:04
EgoAleSumnacc: thanks19:04
BluesKajEgoAleSum, install ifupdown and the interfcaces file will work as pre-systemd for static Ip settings.DNS IPs must be setup in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf19:05
EgoAleSumBluesKaj: well, if the new way is to use netplan, i’ll use that19:05
naccEgoAleSum: i believe you can do, `netplan configure <dev> ip <cidr>` `netplan apply`19:05
EgoAleSumnacc thallada19:05
EgoAleSum*nacc thanks!19:05
naccEgoAleSum: (or edit the netplan files directly)19:05
naccEgoAleSum: that's from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Netplan/Design19:06
BluesKajEgoAleSum, you don't need netplan19:06
naccEgoAleSum: finally: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/07/05/quick-and-easy-network-configuration-with-netplan/19:06
naccEgoAleSum: if you're on destkop, you can just use network-manager of course19:06
EgoAleSumnacc: no desktop :)19:06
naccEgoAleSum: and as BluesKaj said, you do't need netplan necessarily19:10
EgoAleSumnacc: BluesKaj : i understand I don’t need it, but if it’s there i’ll just use it19:10
naccEgoAleSum: yep, and you are right that, at least for server, it's the future for ubuntu19:11
EgoAleSumInteresting… after configuring the second NIC, now I can’t connect to SSH anymore19:11
EgoAleSumany idea what that could be?19:14
EgoAleSumi just get a timeout19:14
EgoAleSumSSH is active and listening on 0.0.0.019:14
EgoAleSumiptables is off (meaning, no rules)19:14
naccEgoAleSum: are you trying to connect on the correct IP?19:14
naccEgoAleSum: -vvv may help you decipher what's going on (pass to ssh)19:15
EgoAleSumyes, same IP i was using before adding the 2nd NIC with static IP19:15
naccEgoAleSum: ah your default route may have been modified19:15
naccEgoAleSum: i wonder if that's what netplan did19:15
EgoAleSumnacc: just stuck in “connecting”19:15
EgoAleSumnacc: i see, let me check19:15
naccEgoAleSum: as in, it may have taken down the other IP19:15
EgoAleSumnacc: yes, it added another gateway which should not have been added19:15
naccEgoAleSum: yeah :/19:15
naccEgoAleSum: there is probably configurability for it19:16
naccEgoAleSum: but outside my knowledge19:16
EgoAleSumnacc: misconfiguration on my end19:16
EgoAleSumlet me fix it and see if it works19:16
naccEgoAleSum: i haven't spent much time on it -- there is supposed to be some wiki pages goign up eventually that describe this all in more detail19:16
Sven_vBmy aptitude full-upgrade hangs since about 20 minutes. the current step seems to be (in pstree): aptitude(5593)─┬─dpkg(16845)───frontend(16920)───resolvconf.post(16928)───update-rc.d(16934)───insserv(16935) <-- and killall insserv seems to have no effect (its pid stays the same) even with -KILL. any idea how to make it continue?19:16
EgoAleSumnacc: i made a mistake and typed the wrong IP for gateway419:17
EgoAleSumrebooting now19:17
naccEgoAleSum: ah19:17
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naccEgoAleSum: yeah that'd break things :)19:17
EgoAleSumhowever, SSH still timing out19:17
Sven_vB(the hanging aptitude is on xenial)19:18
naccEgoAleSum: are the routes better now?19:18
DbuggerHello everyone19:18
EgoAleSumnacc: https://imgur.com/a/sCeSb19:18
EgoAleSumthey look fine to me19:19
naccEgoAleSum: hrm, it's a bit odd to get two defaults, non?19:19
nacc*no19:19
DbuggerI am seeing the settings of "Sound" and in the "Output" tab I am seeing 2 options that I do not know very well what is the difference between them. One is "Line Out - Built-in Audio" and the other is "Digital Output (S/PDIF) - BUilt-in Audio". Does anyone know what are the differences and properties between this 2 options?19:19
naccalso, they overlap19:19
EgoAleSumnacc: that’s true, and yes they are meant to overlap19:19
naccEgoAleSum: is your netmask wrong, possibly19:19
EgoAleSumthey’re in the same network19:19
naccEgoAleSum: ah ok19:19
EgoAleSumnacc: you’re right tho, there shouldn’t be a second gateway at all. let me see19:20
naccEgoAleSum: yeah, that part looks off to me, even with an overlap19:20
EgoAleSumnacc: ok it works now :D19:20
EgoAleSumstupid me19:21
naccEgoAleSum: cool!19:21
EgoAleSumfailing networking 10119:21
EgoAleSumthanks!19:21
naccEgoAleSum: yw, glad to help19:21
navidrIs there any iso for ubuntu available with X ? I am going to use just AwesomeWM and my configuration. So I don't need all those X19:32
naccnavidr: can you rephrase?19:42
naccnavidr: do you mean the X server?19:42
naccnavidr: you mean you want no desktop env by default?19:42
navidrnacc: yeap, I am not going to use it . I am just going to use Sway.19:42
naccnavidr: install server and then put stuff on top?19:42
navidrSway window manager, which runs on top of Wayland ;) so there is no need for X11 at all.19:43
navidrnacc: I don't know anything about ubuntu community. I am migrating from Arch linux. So I just need minimum terminal19:43
navidrif Ubuntu server is that, then that is totally what I want19:43
naccnavidr: right, so istall server19:43
naccnavidr: or even the minimal iso19:43
naccnavidr: then just put whatever you want on top19:44
navidrnacc: what is the difference between minimal iso and Server?19:44
naccnavidr: one is minimal?19:44
nacchttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD19:44
naccnavidr: basically nothing is on the iso and all has to be downloaded19:44
navidrI didn't understand the last part, what was the difference between Ubuntu Minimal Iso and Ubuntu Server19:45
naccnavidr: given that sway and awesomewm are not in ubuntu, maybe you should be picking a different distro19:45
TJ-navidr: basically nothing == only the core parts19:45
naccnavidr: all ubuntu are the same, those are just different installation media19:45
navidrTJ-:  What about core parts?19:45
navidrnacc TJ-  thanks guys ;) that would be enough ;)19:47
TJ-navidr: kernel, init system, shell, standard library. if you want an ssh server you add it... etc. For the -server installer there's a little more pre-installed - a mailer I think for one, but ssh server is still an optional install (albeit from the ISO itself not via download)19:47
navidrTJ-: thanks so Minimal it is.19:47
TJ-navidr: minimec is great for PXE-style installs and for basic container images19:48
puxavidatatertotz, was was trying to get hibernate to work and a place mentioned turning secure boot off and I did that and rebooted and hibernate works, but so does wireless!!19:48
TJ-s/minimec/minimal/19:48
TJ-navidr: are you familiar with the apt package manager? you'll need that extensively to bring in additional packages. Also be aware that Ubuntu has repositories split based on the amount of support/maintainance the packages get: "main" == full support, "universe" (MOTU) -- best efforts mostly community, and "multiverse" less used packages with little or no support (except security patches). You'll also need to19:52
TJ-enable "universe" and "multiverse" separately I think, from the minimal install. For more info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu19:52
navidrTJ-: awesome, thank you for wonderful information19:53
naccnavidr: really, the mini iso is just to get a 'minimal' install and to make the installer image itself (the iso) as small as possible19:55
navidrnacc: So it is just like Arch linux ;) I love Arch linux, but it is not as stable as I want !19:56
naccnavidr: never used arch, so don't know.19:56
TJ-we do stable... and stable doors... mostly after the bugs have bolted :p19:56
gluonnavidr: i used arch linux for a long time and was even a package maintainer, but i simply have no time to keep a rolling release system in shape these days20:00
gluoni'm still power user, i simply appreciate a distro which picks sane defaults out of the box and doesn't upgrade in a rolling release fashion, so that i have time to do other interesting stuff20:01
navidrgluon: exactly, this is my situation today ;) starting Grad school I am not going to have time to fix when every update breaks something20:01
gluonyeah20:01
gluonit was good fun, but it took some time20:01
navidrgluon: kind of good learning experience ;)20:02
gluonindeed20:02
navidrgluon: you are using Ubuntu right now?20:02
gluoni am20:02
gluon17.1020:02
navidrgluon: I wish there was something as minimal as Arch but with stability of ubuntu. I think ubuntu minimal is what I want ;)20:02
gluonyes, it's a good choice20:03
iorianavidr, consider mini.iso in efi mode might be tricky20:04
gluonit's the best of both worlds, navidr20:04
navidrioria: What kind of tricky?20:04
gluonalthough i like what the full blown ubuntu offers anyway20:04
iorianavidr, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD#mini_system_in_UEFI_mode20:04
konradosHi. In short, I right - clicked the "task bar", i.e. the "panel", and clicked panel options ->  remove  this panel. So the "panel" disappeared, so I right-clicked on the desktop and then add panel -> default panel. I hoped to get my old panel but it didn't work like that :(20:05
konrados<konrados> How to restore my "panel" or "task bar" however it is called?20:05
iorianavidr, and you can't use the workaround if you are 32 bit20:06
konradosI tried on #kde with no response :(20:06
nacckonrados: what happened when you added the panel?20:06
nacckonrados: it added the 'default' panel, but not the panel as you had it configured?20:06
navidrioria: nope ;) I am on 64 bit ;)20:06
konradosnacc, yes!20:06
nacckonrados: that seems totally normal and expected. It's like you rm -rf'd your panel.20:06
nacckonrados: it's gone, you told it to go away.20:06
iorianavidr, i'd go with  csm legacy20:07
konradosnacc, ok, but... no.....  it can't be like that....20:07
nacckonrados: and addinng the default panel ... well, adds the default panel20:07
gluoni would also suggest using ubuntu server to install a minimal system20:07
gluonin a desktop20:07
nacckonrados: it doesn't restore some saved state, as there is no saved state (or i wouldn't assume there is)20:07
nacckonrados: it specifically adds the default panel back20:08
konradosnacc, it was a very shortened story. I had a button in a wrong place, it overlapped my task bar, so I wanted to remove it. Dragiiging and dropping didn't work, so I tried right-click - remove20:09
konradosehhhh :(20:09
konradosit isn't clear for a newbie what we remove...............20:09
nacckonrados: backups are your friend20:09
nacckonrados: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=8711220:09
navidrgluon: the thing is it does install a little bit of junk which I am not going to use like mail server  and stuff .20:09
iorianavidr, server ? nope only if you select it20:10
gluonahh, i would have thought you could fine tune what to install, i haven't installed ubuntu server in a while20:10
navidrioria: that is good then20:10
nacckonrados: sorry i've never used kde, dunno. You can file a bug to make it harder to delete key stuff (or see if one is filed)20:10
iorianavidr, absolutely20:10
gluonyeah, then it's still like what i remember20:10
nacckonrados: but that would be up to the kubuntu devs to resolve20:11
konradosnacc, ok, thank you. I once talked to the 'kde' guys saying that it's pretty cool it's sooo customizable, but on the other hand it is sooooo unintuitive - I right click *something* and I want this *something* to be removed, I didn't plan to destroy entire world .....20:15
nacckonrados: yeah, I can imagine the frustration20:15
nacckonrados: it's possible that the state is stored somewhere inn ~/.kde# or whatever20:16
nacckonrados: but it's also very likely that by restoring the default panel, you trashed that state20:16
konradosnacc, thank you :P I feel a bit frustrated after yesterday my firefox upgraded, and removed most of my extensions, because "old". Firefox Quantum.  I'm now working on restoring my system even when I didn't actually want to do any changes20:18
nacckonrados: i believe that is one of the consequences of the new FF, yeah -- old extensions simply may not work (and are most likely going to crash FF if enabled)20:19
konradosnacc, yes... they decided to go with the "Web Extension" and totally kill the non-compatible ones, it's just that it all happened in the last 24h and I'm a bit grumpy.20:20
nacckonrados: sorry to hear that20:21
konradosnacc, thanks, I feel better now, really. Maybe I'm exaggerating a bit, things happen. I'm just too nervous. Thank you, and have a good weekend! :P20:23
nacckonrados: you do the same!20:23
shazbotmcnastyhey there - would anyone be able to give me some assistance making a meny entry for a live disk I have?20:28
shazbotmcnastythere's a vesamenu.c32, a vmlinux, an initrd.lz, and a casper folder20:28
shazbotmcnastyI have it currently set up booting the iso with a memdisk, but once booted i get "unable-to-find-a-medium-containing-a-live-file-system" so i'm trying it extracted20:29
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ioriashazbotmcnasty, try with grub-imageboot20:33
shazbotmcnastyI'm not sure what that means20:34
shazbotmcnastyit's a menu entry on a pxe server20:34
ioriashazbotmcnasty, ah, i thought you weanted to boot a livecd from grub ... sy20:34
shazbotmcnastythanks though :)20:34
naccshazbotmcnasty: what does the kernel try to load?20:34
naccshazbotmcnasty: what is it  you are trying to boot?20:34
shazbotmcnastyI think I might have to convert the initrd.lz to a gz20:34
naccshazbotmcnasty: this doesn't really seem like ubuntu support :)20:35
shazbotmcnastyit doesn't really - i mean the pxe server is ubuntu - but I'm not sure who to ask, i was kinda hoping someone that was good with menu entries would offer assistance and we'd bring it to a query20:35
ioriashazbotmcnasty, .gz is not on desktop ed20:35
klausplusonehey, can somebody help me with something20:35
Avenklausplusone: ask20:36
klausplusoneI run live ubuntu and want to format my usb to ntfs to put a file on it and I format it with gparted but it sets it to read-only20:36
naccshazbotmcnasty: so the pxe booted isntaller complains about ot finding a live fs but doesn't try to load a live fs?20:36
naccshazbotmcnasty: i call fib :)20:36
naccshazbotmcnasty: if you check the pxe server's logs, you'll see an RRQ for something20:36
shazbotmcnastyno u20:36
* Aven throws in the towel20:36
shazbotmcnastyoh I've only tried the .iso version - it boots up fine20:37
TJ-shazbotmcnasty: surely you need to load/unpack a squashfs image ?20:37
shazbotmcnastyI'm, not sure where to start with this new menu entry20:37
naccshazbotmcnasty: what?20:37
naccshazbotmcnasty: i feel like you are contradicting yourself now ...20:37
naccshazbotmcnasty: are you using an .iso or not?20:37
klausplusonecan somebody tell me how I'm supposed to format it?20:37
shazbotmcnastyit's an extracted iso20:37
naccklausplusone: you can't write to the live usb fs by default20:38
shazbotmcnastynow... before I was using a not extracted iso and using a memdisk20:38
klausplusoneI boot from CD20:38
klausplusoneI wrote to my other usb20:38
naccklausplusone: oh sorry, so you have two USB?20:38
klausplusoneyes20:38
klausplusonetwo usb and cd20:38
klausplusoneI managed to write the acronis iso to my other usb and it got locked again20:39
naccklausplusone: why are you using ntfs on a usb drive?20:39
klausplusoneto read-only20:39
klausplusonebecause I want to put my acronis image to restore my os20:39
naccklausplusone: if you are putting an image on it, why are you puttinng a fs on it?20:39
naccklausplusone: i thinnk you're misundresatnding something or not communicatinng something clearly20:39
klausplusoneill try again20:39
klausplusoneim pissed off20:39
klausplusoneI have an acronis backup image of my windows os and I managed to create a bootable usb with acronis, but I need to put the acronis image on the flash drive20:40
klausplusonethe second usb is empty but even after format its always read only20:40
naccshazbotmcnasty: afaict, you're telling your victim to boot a kernel annd initrd and not telling it what filesystem to use for root. That has to be passed as well (typically this in the menuentry like root=live: ... or whatever (iirc)20:41
naccshazbotmcnasty: but taht squashfs file eeds to be present to tftp over20:41
naccshazbotmcnasty: are you just trying to backup the backup image?20:42
naccshazbotmcnasty: or are you tryign to make the second usb a copy of the backup image?20:42
klausplusoneme or him20:42
naccerr, klausplusone --^20:42
naccsorry20:42
klausplusoneno20:42
grantwuJust to confirm, there's no way to file a bug against how a PPA is packaged, is there?20:42
klausplusonethe acronis image is on my hard drive20:42
grantwuI should just contact the PPA maintainer?20:42
klausplusonei need to move it to my usb20:42
naccgrantwu: complain to the ppa maintainer20:42
klausplusonebut it dont let me20:42
grantwunacc: got it20:43
klausplusoneits a tib file20:43
naccklausplusone: did you try mounting the usb read-write?20:43
klausplusonehow do I do that20:43
TJ-shazbotmcnasty: does the menu-entry's kernel command-line contain "boot=casper" ?20:43
naccklausplusone: sudo mount -o remount,rw /path/to/usb/dev/node20:44
naccklausplusone: that assumes it's moounted20:44
naccklausplusone: is it mounted read-only or has the device gone read-only?20:44
klausplusonei dont know bro i hate this os20:44
klausplusoneseriously20:44
klausplusoneill try that now20:44
klausplusoneits mounted as read only probably as the usb is working correctly20:44
TJ-There used to be issues with some flakey USB flash mass storage 'thumb drives' where the hardware would go read-only after being formatted20:45
Symmetriammm what was the last verison of ubuntu to support a 3.x kernel20:45
naccSymmetria: 14.04 still supports one20:46
naccSymmetria: why?20:46
NitrigaurRunning Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, auto-update fails and quickly displays something about python-zope interface missing newline20:46
Symmetriaheh just dropping back to it - I see 14.04 by default on the latest releases image is 4.x20:46
naccklausplusone: why are you doig this from a live ubuntu cd?20:46
Symmetrianacc heh I have a need for 3.x - some pretty specific software20:46
klausplusonethis doesnt work20:46
klausplusonebecause20:46
NitrigaurThis error does not appear in my apt log20:47
naccSymmetria: you want 14.04.120:47
klausplusonei didnt know it is such a big deal to format 2 usb drives20:47
klausplusonewhy would somebody program it that even after format it remains read-only is beyond me20:47
klausplusone i managed to burn acronis to my other usb somehow dont know how it happened20:48
klausplusoneso it has a way of working20:48
ioriaSymmetria, i  don't think trusty has a 4.x kernel20:48
leftyfbklausplusone: if you ever imaged that usb drive with an iso or image file, you might have to delete the partition table and repartition it before formatting.20:48
klausplusoneits a different usb20:48
ioriaSymmetria, oh, sy... yes 4.420:48
leftyfbklausplusone: either way, you do not need to format a usb drive to image it with an iso or image file. That's not necessary. The filesystem is part of the image.20:48
klausplusoneam I not explaining this or something I dont know20:49
Symmetriaioria heh 14.04.5 is 4.4 - its fine - I just dropped back to 3.x20:49
klausplusoneI have a TIB image that I want to put on the usb , just copy it there20:49
ioriaSymmetria, ok20:49
klausplusonehow do I put it on the usb if its not formatted20:49
leftyfbah, you need the image file copied to the usb, not to boot from said usb but to be used as the source file of the image20:50
klausplusoneyes20:50
klausplusoneI have another usb with bootable acronis20:50
leftyfbklausplusone: still, I would try using gparted to recreate the partition table20:50
klausplusonebut after I made it bootable it became readonly too20:50
klausplusoneit doesnt work20:50
leftyfbklausplusone: under "Device" - > "Create partition table"20:51
klausplusoneI mean I re-create it, delete the partition and create it again and it is always read only20:51
TJ-TIB == True Image Backup... apparently a disk image but probably has metadata attached20:51
klausplusonelike20:51
leftyfbklausplusone: where do you see it as read-only?20:51
klausplusoneit dont let me put stuff on it20:51
TJ-klausplusone: are you going to use the acronis software to extract the image from USB TIB file later? or you want to extract the TIB image to be bootable on the USB?20:51
klausplusonelol20:52
leftyfbklausplusone: can you pastebin the terminal with the commands you're using and the error?20:52
klausplusoneI cant explain it any clearer than this sorry20:52
leftyfbklausplusone: can you pastebin the terminal with the commands you're using and the error?20:52
klausplusoneI copy my file20:53
klausplusoneclick paste on the usb and it says this device is read only20:53
klausplusoneI tried to copy it there with sudo -i in the terminal and it still didnt work20:53
puxavidatatertotz, actually it's hibernate that enables wifi.  I rebooted and wifi disappeared.  I then hibernated then came back out and wifi came back again.  ??20:53
leftyfbcan you try it within a terminal so we can possibly get more detailed errors?20:53
TJ-puxavida: common issue; caused by the motherboard's ACPI DSDT having bugs20:54
TJ-puxavida: highly likely the fix is as I document it here https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html20:54
leftyfbklausplusone: you could try running df to get the device location of the mount and try remounting as r/w. Something like: sudo mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda /media/my_usb20:55
TJ-klausplusone: possibly silly question but: once you've partitioned and formatted with NTFS on the USB, have you tried unmount/removing it and then re-inserting it?20:56
Symmetriaseems trying to drop back to 3.x from 14.04.5 was a bad idea lol - screw it - installing 14.04.1 and will then just upgrade without upgrading the kernel20:56
klausplusonei have it doesnt work20:56
klausplusoneleftyfb I tried that too found it on some forum and it didnt work20:56
klausplusonecommands yield no output20:56
TJ-klausplusone: OK, so that tells us the issue isn't transient20:56
klausplusoneill just20:57
leftyfbklausplusone: sounds like the usb drive might be bad then20:57
klausplusoneleave it for tomorrow20:57
klausplusoneits not bad20:57
TJ-klausplusone: are you currently working from a Live ISO or an installed Ubuntu?20:57
klausplusoneits live20:57
klausplusonebut20:57
klausplusoneill just leave it for tomorrow because my computer might suffer20:57
leftyfbklausplusone: also, if you hate this OS so much, why can't you boot to your preferred OS and format it that way?20:57
klausplusoneif I hang around it a little bit longer20:57
klausplusonebecause this cd is the only one I have20:57
klausplusone had a lot of rescue utilities on my flash drive but had to format it20:58
klausplusonebesides everything I wanted to do was just format two usb drives20:58
klausplusonelol how hard does that sound20:58
TJ-klausplusone: it would help to show us "pasteinbinit <( sudo parted -l print; cat /proc/mounts )"20:58
klausplusoneanyway thanks a lot ill figure it out tomorrow20:58
TJ-oh typos grrr @ fingers20:58
TJ-klausplusone: it would help to show us "pastebinit <( sudo parted -l print; cat /proc/mounts )"20:59
klausplusonesorry I'm getting headaches20:59
klausplusoneI was installing mac on this pos earlier20:59
klausplusonebeen dealing with it for like 12 hours20:59
klausplusoneIm calling it a day20:59
klausplusoneappreciate the advices from all three of you , have a nice night21:00
Symmetriaugh lol man this is getting painful - heh the ubuntu installation for 3.x doesnt find my 10G nics by default heh and since Im installing via a drac - gonna have remote mount some stuff so get drivers onto it before I can do anything21:02
Symmetrianew hardware - stupid software that doesnt use 4.x kernels - royal pain in the backside21:02
TJ-Symmetria: what prevents the later kernel with the hardware support from being used?21:03
Symmetriatj heh customized network drivers that won't compile under 4.x - and Im very hesitant to start screwing around with junipers network drivers :)21:03
Symmetriacould probably hack them to a point where they do compile but heh - that will result in support issues21:03
TJ-Symmetria: out-of-tree stuff then?21:04
TJ-Symmetria: not sure what you're aiming for, but have you thought about installing a basic hypervisor 4.x kernel on bare metal and passing through the NICs to a guest VM with kernel 3.3 or whatever you need?21:05
SymmetriaTJ in an ideal world - I'll end up srv-io running on the thing anyway - the problem is - junos checks the compatibility of its drivers iwth the linux drivers before it fires that up - basically what I'm doing btw is firing up virtual rotuers - high end virtual routers (40+ gigabit/second throughput stuff)21:06
TJ-Symmetria: ahhh, got you.21:07
Symmetrialol - I generated an ISO file for what I needed to get on that box and remote mounted the ISO file through the drac and am now waiting for it to untar a 5gig tar file via a remote mounted iso through a drac *snore* this could take a while21:17
TJ-disagregation is a wonderful thing :)21:18
shazbotmcnastyTJ-: yes it does - i got it to boot half way - it got just as far as it did with just booting the iso with a memdisk21:25
shazbotmcnastyHere's the menu entry i have: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a8b60e5389c92f0b8758a571a420035321:27
shazbotmcnastyI'm still getting "(initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system"21:27
naccshazbotmcnasty: you're live media is a physical disk?21:30
nacc*your21:30
TJ-shazbotmcnasty: the very first thing I'd ask is this: in the initrd, is udev configured to create the /dev/disk/by-uuid/ symbolic links? I'd boot it with the addition of "break=mountroot" so it drops you to a shell inside the initrd; from there you can check21:30
TJ-shazbotmcnasty: "grep maybe_break /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init" will show you all the possible "break=" values that are valid to drop to a shell inside the initrd at different stages21:31
shazbotmcnastynacc: no, i got that menu entry from the live disk itself in a txt.cfg and tested it out and it gets just as far as it did just booting the iso21:31
naccshazbotmcnasty: right, and that's wrong.21:32
naccshazbotmcnasty: the live disk is for booting *off* the disk21:32
naccshazbotmcnasty: you are not, so it makes no sense to have the live-media be the disk21:32
shazbotmcnastyit does the same thing with or without that part21:32
TJ-shazbotmcnasty: it looks like ../by-uuid/D0D7-DFF8 is a FAT32 file-system, is this a USB device?21:32
shazbotmcnastyTJ-: it's supposed to be21:32
naccshazbotmcnasty: right, because it's wrog21:32
shazbotmcnastynacc: ok.21:33
naccshazbotmcnasty: if you are pxe booting a device, that does not have said USB key plugged in21:33
naccshazbotmcnasty: are you?21:33
shazbotmcnastyno.21:33
naccshazbotmcnasty: so the device you are pxe booting has the usb device plugged in?21:33
shazbotmcnastyi said no.21:34
naccshazbotmcnasty: ok, then your pxe menu *cannot* refer to said usb device21:34
shazbotmcnastythat part of the entry has been removed, which made no difference21:35
naccshazbotmcnasty: right, which is also wrong, now you're not tellig ti where to find the live media at all21:36
shazbotmcnastyso what should it say?21:37
naccshazbotmcnasty: that depends on the to-be-installed system and what it expects21:38
naccshazbotmcnasty: afaict, that's not ubuntu, so i don't know21:38
dedzeHi, I ran lsof /dev/video0 and noticed that the following warning disappear, should I worry??: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tracefs file system /sys/kernel/debug/tracing21:48
dedzeAlso, I came back to my laptop after going outside for at least 30 minutes and ubuntu didnt suspend but it did suspend many times before after a few minutes (it didnt go dark screen and ask my password). It is a fresh install from less than two days ago.21:49
dedzeCould it be that my system was already hacked and someone changed my power settings and somehow is preventing me from monitoring my camera uses?21:50
moffaAnyone have experience adding static routes in netplan?  The documentation doesn't work21:50
naccdedze: you seem very paranoid.21:51
naccdedze: there is no reason (afaict) to jump to a hack21:51
dedzenacc: I am extremely paranoid21:51
naccdedze: ok, it's hard to support you -- we genuinely do not know if you have been hacked. It seems very unlikely.21:53
naccdedze: it might be easier to not use a computer than to be worried about that all the time.21:53
alexasi have an endless 'connecting to network' status through all interfaces, wireless or not, how to debug?21:53
dedzenacc: Sorry about this21:54
naccalexas: endless from where?21:54
alexasnacc: endless from network manager it stuck connecting for some time then show disconnect and start all over again21:55
naccdedze: nothinng to apologize for, it's just not a support topic -- coming in here every few days like the world is ending about being hacked :)21:55
naccalexas: i believe nm logs to syslog, you could see what it's doing21:55
naccalexas: if it's uanble to conenct over wifi, it might keep retryig21:55
alexasnacc: even i disable the wifi and connect wireless or bluetooth it still the same21:56
alexaslast time it resolve itself but then system freezed and after hard reboot it is still the same21:57
alexasnacc: i did not understand what the other logs you suggest beside syslog to look at, please21:57
naccalexas: if you disable the wifi how are you conected to wireless?21:57
naccalexas: syslog is the only one i know of for NM21:57
alexasi have a wireless bluetooth modem and module for example nacc21:57
naccalexas: i don't know, sorry21:58
alexascan someone tell me how to reduce syslog to the size of less then 500 kb so i will be able to host it?22:02
EriC^^alexas: how big is it now?22:04
alexasEriC^^: 55022:05
alexaskb22:05
EriC^^alexas: just do "sudo cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999" and you should be good22:06
alexasEriC^^: your solution seems to imply that machine the logs at have an internet connection, apparently - as i can see the url - but it is not having it so i got nc error as host not known22:08
EriC^^alexas: how were you going to host it?22:09
alexasi will put the file to another machine and then do it EriC^^22:10
naccalexas: 'put to another machine' and then run nc termbin.com from there22:12
xcyclistI'm trying to install skype on 16.04, but I tried two sets of directions, both failing.22:20
alexasxcyclist: i have the same problem some time ago, i was trying to install the old verison of it, apparently there is a newer one, please check it carefully22:24
xcyclistOkay, so look for newer one where?22:25
alexasskype.com22:26
alexasthe only way where to look for it I suppose22:26
naccxcyclist: where did you install it from?22:26
xcyclistOnly thing I could find on skype.com was an rpm.22:27
akikxcyclist: https://www.skype.com/en/get-skype/22:28
xcyclistNow I cannot find it again.  I was googling ubuntu skype.22:28
akikxcyclist: it's called skypeforlinux22:28
xcyclistThe only thing that comes up there for me is an rpm.22:29
naccxcyclist: it's a dropdownn.22:29
akiki get a "get skype for linux deb" button22:30
xcyclistOk.  Now I got it.22:31
alexashow can I screen the process/program that already is running in terminal?22:36
TJ-alexas: sounds like an ACPI issue. what make/model is the PC?22:43
alexasTJ-: laptop thinkpad l52022:44
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TJ-alexas: which ubuntu version is it?22:49
alexasTJ-: Ubuntu 17.1022:50
TJ-alexas: can you do "lspci -nnk -d  ::0280" and tell us if you see anything reported. if you do, tell is the device name/model number22:51
alexaswill do sec22:52
alexasTJ-: here is what is there: https://0bin.net/paste/dkNOaiwYqLLUFr27#FpLOLZupSfN9ZYs39gdiTfnAtD06FTQ79w+4LXOIz8522:54
TJ-alexas: aha! that device is known to have a lot of problems currently. Let me see if I can find indications of fixes22:55
alexasTJ-: thanks!22:56
jfcaronSo a fresh 16.04 LTS install with Firefox crashes immediately if you go to maps.google.com. =\22:58
jfcaronWell, the "tab" crashes.22:59
swattoGood Evening all, I am new to linux, would you recommend I install an AV product?22:59
jfcaronAV?  Audio-visual?  I suggest VLC.23:00
swattosorry I mean antivirus23:00
jfcaronOh, no probably not.23:00
swattook cool ty23:01
DaemonFCWell, with Windows it's basically just a matter of time before you get a screen saying your files are encrypted and they want bitcoins or else. I personally know of several people this has happened to, so it's not rare on that side of the fence I take it.23:01
DaemonFCI haven't used antivirus on GNU/Linux since 1997 (when I first used it) and nothing has ever happened because I didn't have it.23:02
DaemonFCObviously, don't go installing tons of software from random websites and keep your system up to date.23:02
TJ-alexas: 17.10 is on the 4.13 kernel which is quite recent and most bugs should be worked out. However, I read that there can still be issues with devices that use MIMO (2 or more antennas) that still exist. Right now I think seeing  /var/log/syslog (or /var/log/kern.log or output from 'dmesg') would help the most in trying to identify why the issue is happening.23:02
DaemonFCTJ-, I've been having shutdown and restart problems on 17.10.23:03
swattoI've created some aliases to update the system in one command and clean up redundant packages.23:03
TJ-DaemonFC: have you applied the common ACPI OSI fix?23:03
DaemonFCPressing the shutdown button in GNOME Shell, it takes like 20 seconds for the shutdown box to show up and then there's a wifi issue that says "can't remove key" something something. I didn't solve that one, but I did set systemd to give up and shut down the computer anyway after 5 seconds.23:04
DaemonFCTJ-, I'd imagine it's a bug in Ubuntu somewhere since this never happens under Fedora.23:04
DaemonFCPossibly two bugs.23:05
GrandPa-GI am trying to install Java on 16.04 server. I do sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java and get a lot of warnings and then need to continue and get output from gpg and then stops. What next?23:11
GrandPa-Goutput http://paste.ubuntu.com/25984190/23:11
TJ-DaemonFC: I read of some remaining apparmor bugs causing shutdown issues23:14
GrandPa-GI got jre so I will see if it works for me.23:14
blkadderGrandPa-G: Those aren’t errors.23:15
blkadderIt’s installing the gpg key for the repo successfully23:15
GrandPa-Gblkadder:ok, How stupid of me, that was just a repository add. DUH!23:16
DaemonFCTJ-, I don't think Apparmor would affect me, with it being off.23:16
DaemonFC(Mainline kernel.) Of course the shutdown problems happen with the Ubuntu kernel as well.23:17
DaemonFCIf it is a kernel issue, that likely means that it's got something to do with a config option that Ubuntu has set.23:17
TJ-DaemonFC: have you tried an alternate desktop env? sounds like it could be gnome-related23:17
TJ-the apparmor in-kernel issues were the ones I was thinking of23:18
DaemonFCCould be, but Fedora 27 uses GNOME 3.26 as well.23:18
DaemonFCCould be an Ubuntu patch on GNOME.23:18
TJ-ha! not tailored like Ubuntu's though. A lot can be down to config23:18
DaemonFCFedora doesn't like carrying a ton of patches against upstream.23:18
DaemonFCIf something isn't going into upstream very soon, Fedora doesn't apply the patch.23:19
TJ-I tried to run a VM earlier with 17.10 to reproduce a bug... hit several show-stoppers and still didn't get it installed :)23:19
DaemonFCNightmarishly long patchsets make trying to figure out what Ubuntu is doing.....difficult at best.23:25
dsc_How can I see if I'm using unity or gnome23:32
dsc_guess i'm using gnome from the amount of gnome-* files in /usr/bin :P23:34
DaemonFCdsc_, Not really. Unity is just a shell. It uses a lot of GNOME apps.23:35
DaemonFCIn the top left corner, does it say "Activities"?23:36
dsc_It does23:36
DaemonFCGNOME23:36
dsc_aight23:36
dsc_where can I modify how windows look etc?23:36
DaemonFCGNOME Tweaks23:37
dsc_for example; I'm used to dragging windows by holding 'left-alt + mouse1' in LXDE23:37
dsc_doesn't seem to work here :P23:37
DaemonFCI'm not sure if there's a way to make Mutter do that or not.23:38
dsc_alright23:38
dsc_how do you organize windows?23:38
dsc_is there a grid system?23:38
DaemonFCMost of the advanced settings are hidden in either GNOME Tweaks or Dconf-Editor.23:38
DaemonFCIt's to keep people from hosing their desktop and then wondering how to fix it. ;)23:38
dsc_hehe23:39
dsc_I just hosed my whole debian install, hence my switch to ubuntu :P23:39
dsc_dist-upgrade after a night out ... dont drink and linux :|23:39
Bashing-omdsc_: Off hand I do not recall how I set the work spaces .. was a setting . but then a mouse to the right edge displayes the workspaces one can select .23:41
dsc_Bashing-om: Ah, dragging windows to the edge of the screen makes them follow a grid23:42
dsc_also, <super> + left mouse = drag windows23:43
dsc_which is what I was looking for :)23:43
Bashing-omdsc_: gmome3 is differnt . a lot to re-learn .. I back and prefer xfce for my use case .23:43
dsc_Yeah I come from lxde/xfce23:43
dsc_this dconf-editor is handy.23:44
dsc_beats openbox :P23:44
Bashing-omdsc_: While I admire and appreciate gnome -- I do .. I have xubuntu on an SSD as my work horse .23:45
DaemonFC`I'd probably use something else except that HiDPI support is still iffy or not present in most desktops.23:45
dsc_Yeah I still run lxde/debian9 for work23:45
dsc_ah.23:46
dsc_but this 17.10 is quite fancy :)23:46
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gogetaxfce for the win23:58

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