[00:28] wxl: it worked great in Falkon! [00:28] and they are working on html5 [00:29] valorie: waiiiiiiiit you're already using it on the server? i didn't think they were ready? [00:30] using it from Clive's ppa [00:30] working SUPER [00:30] I hardly use chrome anymore [00:30] and FF not at all [00:31] oh i grok that you were using falkon and that it works and that's cool. i was asking about the server side and html5. [00:31] oh, I dunno [00:31] Just Works [00:31] i stopped using chrome a while back. and i've been happy with firefox. you no likey? [00:31] falkon never asked about flash [00:31] i'm super paranoid about the recent flash CVE [00:32] I was using ff for some sites that wouldn't work anywhere else [00:32] genealogy sites [00:32] now that they do, ciao everything else [00:35] and that's mainly because falkon Just Works and it's KDE/Qt so you don't need to bother with Firefox's weird widgets? [00:35] yes [00:35] I haven't added anything [00:35] never see ads [00:35] etc [00:35] nice [00:36] almost retro in that way [00:36] when the web Just Worked [00:36] :) [00:36] well when the most complicated thing it had to render was blinking text and animated banners.. XD [00:36] *I* remember those days [00:37] Netscape! [00:37] I'm old so I remember those halcyon days [00:37] before blink even [00:37] or banners [00:37] or ads, or spam [00:37] of course it was text only, and slow [00:37] but so what [00:37] it worked [00:39] wait [00:39] what about [00:39] gopher? [00:39] I've used it [00:39] but I've never been good with raw databases [00:39] and I believe that's what its primary purpose was [00:40] I sorta stuck to stuff I was interested in which back then was mostly genealogy [00:40] and that was early lists and news [00:41] fidonet before that..... [00:41] which was mostly newsgroups [00:41] and a few BBSs [00:43] google groups is not the same as the good old days [00:43] but there is better stuff now, so I don't miss it [00:44] it was fun while it lasted [09:15] Marius Nestor has been asking me about snaps by default/adoption for 18.04 [09:15] all I could say is nothing is set yet, and we would have the same issues as Neon [09:16] This is something we should probably discuss properly in next BBB meeting, as well as on lists [09:40] http://news.softpedia.com/news/snaps-are-coming-to-ubuntu-18-04-by-default-kubuntu-could-also-adopt-them-518614.shtml === santa is now known as Guest56134 [16:14] so, how the hell do I use matrix? [16:14] * acheronuk goes to look for idiot's guide [16:15] when you learn, show me [16:39] clivejo: hmmmm [18:38] you don't appear to be terribly impressed [18:39] it's ok [18:41] maybe I would like it better on another client [18:42] just on riot atm, and it's a bit meh! === santa is now known as Guest32053