[00:28] <valorie> wxl: it worked great in Falkon!
[00:28] <valorie> and they are working on html5
[00:29] <wxl> valorie: waiiiiiiiit you're already using it on the server? i didn't think they were ready?
[00:30] <valorie> using it from Clive's ppa
[00:30] <valorie> working SUPER
[00:30] <valorie> I hardly use chrome anymore
[00:30] <valorie> and FF not at all
[00:31] <wxl> oh i grok that you were using falkon and that it works and that's cool. i was asking about the server side and html5.
[00:31] <valorie> oh, I dunno
[00:31] <valorie> Just Works
[00:31] <wxl> i stopped using chrome a while back. and i've been happy with firefox. you no likey?
[00:31] <valorie> falkon never asked about flash
[00:31] <wxl> i'm super paranoid about the recent flash CVE
[00:32] <valorie> I was using ff for some sites that wouldn't work anywhere else
[00:32] <valorie> genealogy sites
[00:32] <valorie> now that they do, ciao everything else
[00:35] <wxl> and that's mainly because falkon Just Works and it's KDE/Qt so you don't need to bother with Firefox's weird widgets?
[00:35] <valorie> yes
[00:35] <valorie> I haven't added anything
[00:35] <valorie> never see ads
[00:35] <valorie> etc
[00:35] <wxl> nice
[00:36] <valorie> almost retro in that way
[00:36] <valorie> when the web Just Worked
[00:36] <wxl> :)
[00:36] <wxl> well when the most complicated thing it had to render was blinking text and animated banners.. XD
[00:36] <wxl> *I* remember those days
[00:37] <wxl> Netscape!
[00:37] <valorie> I'm old so I remember those halcyon days
[00:37] <valorie> before blink even
[00:37] <valorie> or banners
[00:37] <valorie> or ads, or spam
[00:37] <valorie> of course it was text only, and slow
[00:37] <valorie> but so what
[00:37] <valorie> it worked
[00:39] <wxl> wait
[00:39] <wxl> what about
[00:39] <wxl> gopher?
[00:39] <valorie> I've used it
[00:39] <valorie> but I've never been good with raw databases
[00:39] <valorie> and I believe that's what its primary purpose was
[00:40] <valorie> I sorta stuck to stuff I was interested in which back then was mostly genealogy
[00:40] <valorie> and that was early lists and news
[00:41] <valorie> fidonet before that.....
[00:41] <valorie> which was mostly newsgroups
[00:41] <valorie> and a few BBSs
[00:43] <valorie> google groups is not the same as the good old days
[00:43] <valorie> but there is better stuff now, so I don't miss it
[00:44] <valorie> it was fun while it lasted
 Marius Nestor has been asking me about snaps by default/adoption for 18.04
 all I could say is nothing is set yet, and we would have the same issues as Neon
 This is something we should probably discuss properly in next BBB meeting, as well as on lists
[09:40] <acheronuk> http://news.softpedia.com/news/snaps-are-coming-to-ubuntu-18-04-by-default-kubuntu-could-also-adopt-them-518614.shtml
[16:14] <acheronuk> so, how the hell do I use matrix?
[16:14]  * acheronuk goes to look for idiot's guide
[16:15] <clivejo> when you learn, show me
[16:39] <acheronuk[m]> clivejo: hmmmm
[18:38] <clivejo> you don't appear to be terribly impressed
[18:39] <acheronuk> it's ok
[18:41] <acheronuk> maybe I would like it better on another client
[18:42] <acheronuk> just on riot atm, and it's a bit meh!