[00:15] <heywood> if i've accidentally clobbered a file several steps down into a CVS checkout from the root directory, is there a simple way to pull *just* that one file from the CVS repo?
[00:28] <dsc_> how do I stop X server on ubuntu 17.10
[00:29] <dsc_> `sudo service lightdm stop` in tty4 doesnt work
[00:30] <gogeta> dsc_, systemctl disabl lightdm.service
[00:30] <gogeta> dsc_, wrong one
[00:30] <gogeta> dsc_, systemctl stop lightdm.service
[00:31] <dsc_> gogeta: 'unit lightdm.service not loaded'
[00:32] <gogeta> dsc_, so its not running ?
[00:32] <dsc_> gogeta: looks pretty graphical to me :P?
[00:33] <dsc_> ill try 'gdm'
[00:33] <gogeta> dsc_, if your usinf 17.x its gdm gnome now
[00:33] <dsc_> gogeta: 17.10
[00:33] <Bashing-om> dsc_: Yeah .. 17.10 runs under gdm .
[00:33] <gogeta> dsc_, yea it will be gnome absed
[00:33] <dsc_> ill just boot in recovery mode. this is not working
[00:34] <dsc_> brb
[00:39] <WoLf> Hello, I'm trying to prevent a service from writing their logs to the syslog file.. Could anyone help steer me in the right direction? I tried to add an entry in /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf but I can't seem to get it right.
[01:07] <jeffrey_f> HP Pavilion g7 Notebook WIRED network and bluetooth not found by system.  Help
[01:13] <digcloud> After install on Acer Aspire S7 I get the error "No bootable device"
[01:13] <jeffrey_f> HP Pavilion g7 Notebook WIRED network and bluetooth not found by system.  Help  Worked under Windows 10
[01:13] <digcloud> My laptop has two drives presented as RAID and UEFI.
[01:14] <DaemonFC> digcloud, In the BIOS, did you try setting the controller to AHCI instead of RAID before installing?
[01:16] <digcloud> DaemonFC: no, I haven't tried that.
[01:16] <digcloud> I'll give that a try.
[01:17] <Bashing-om> digcloud: Also . Acer "used" to require setting "trust" in bios .
[01:18] <DaemonFC> digcloud, Be warned that if you plan to use Windows too, that if you switch modes, Windows can start BSOD-ing.
[01:18] <DaemonFC> The "RAID" mode is there to stop Windows from addressing the drive using its generic storage driver.
[01:19] <DaemonFC> It has to go looking for a new driver, and gets the Intel RST driver, and its power management policy instead.
[01:19] <Bashing-om> digcloud: see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2330267 ; https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2333630 <- oldfred : Ubuntu on Acer Aspire new Laptop .
[01:21] <DaemonFC> Bashing-om, Acer is not known for making good products. I accidentally bricked one of their motherboards one time because they told me to install a BIOS update. Followed the directions to the letter and brickety brick brick.
[01:22] <DaemonFC> I generally advise people to leave the BIOS alone and if they want to correct CPU errata, to just make sure that the intel-microcode package is installed.
[01:22] <DaemonFC> (I have no idea why it isn't by default in Ubuntu.)
[01:23] <TJ-> jeffrey_f: sounds like the typical ACPI OSI issue. See https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[01:23] <DaemonFC> TJ-, "The owner of iam.tj has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website."
[01:23] <TJ-> DaemonFC: because it's proprietary licensed so dealt with the same as nvidia drivers, etc
[01:23] <TJ-> jeffrey_f: sounds like the typical ACPI OSI issue. See http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[01:24] <TJ-> DaemonFC: It's moving over to another host so I've not bothered replacing the cert on there; http is fine; I just get so used to typing https :)
[01:25] <DaemonFC> TJ-, "Fortunately this issue was recognised by the Linux developers early on and they provided an option, acpi_osi=, that allows Linux to report itself as some other operating system in order to have the DSDT code enable the same functionality as it does for Microsoft Windows."
[01:25] <DaemonFC> That's not correct.
[01:25] <DaemonFC> Linux has not responded Linux to that since kernel 2.6.9.
[01:26] <TJ-> DaemonFC: incorrect; it still does. It even reports "OSI(Linux) ignored" or some such
[01:28] <DaemonFC> TJ-, https://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/29954.html?thread=1106178
[01:28] <DaemonFC> "(Linux, which claimed to be "Linux" regardless of version until we turned that off)."
[01:28] <DaemonFC> https://mjg59.livejournal.com/85923.html
[01:28] <TJ-> Read the source. drivers/acpi/osi.c
[01:29] <DaemonFC> "Why Linux claims to be Windows"
[01:29] <TJ-> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/acpi/osi.c#n64
[01:30] <DaemonFC> It claims to be every version of Windows and not Linux.
[01:31] <DaemonFC> Some BIOSes probed for Linux as recently as 2009.
[01:31] <DaemonFC> Some might still do it if you're using a legacy boot payload, but I haven't checked.
[01:32] <DaemonFC> Although I don't see why they would, the people who write BIOS code are insane.
[01:32] <TJ-> Lot's of server firmware still does
[01:32] <DaemonFC> uEFI made them even more dangerous.
[01:32] <capella> in a good way
[01:33] <TJ-> acpi_osi solves about 90% of the issues we see with platform/builtin devices and power/suspend issues.
[01:33] <TJ-> we had one 2 weeks ago that wasn't activating the external HDMI port until the correct "Windows xxxx" was used
[01:34] <DaemonFC> Well if it does, it shouldn't.
[01:34] <DaemonFC> Maybe nudge Matthew Garrett and ask what's going on.
[01:34] <TJ-> I've been working on ACPI longer than he has :)
[01:34] <DaemonFC> He says the correct behavior to those probes is to return nothing.
[01:35] <DaemonFC> I had a system that was checking for that and then tried giving Linux the DSDT set aside for Windows 2000(!!!!), but it never happened because Linux ignored it.
[01:36] <DaemonFC> At some point, someone maintaining the AMI BIOS boilerplate probably decided it was a good idea to start toying around with Linux, and then stopped, but never took the entry out.
[01:36] <DaemonFC> TJ-, Besides, you still have yet to explain why Fedor doesn't have the problems that Ubuntu does.
[01:36] <DaemonFC> If it's kernel behavior in general, it would happen in Fedora as well.
[01:37] <TJ-> Huh? what? the issue is network and bluetooth not found on Linux, but is on Windows
[01:38] <DaemonFC> You told me earlier that it's related to my shutdown/reboot problems in Ubuntu.
[01:39] <DaemonFC> I'm asking, if that's the case, then why doesn't it happen under other distributions.
[01:39] <DaemonFC> None of them are using any special stuff on the kernel command line.
[01:41] <DaemonFC> My opinion is that Ubuntu has probably done something weird along the way and god only knows what.
[01:41] <TJ-> I said it might be, and this is such an easy fix, it's always worth trying first
[01:42] <DaemonFC> The delay in shutdown *after* GNOME exits was "a stop job is running" and the Ubuntu default is to timeout after 90 seconds.
[01:43] <DaemonFC> So some service is hung and systemd is perfectly happy to stand there for a minute and a half by default before it gives up.
[01:43] <Ben64> yeah i get that sometimes
[01:43] <DaemonFC> I got a complaint about failing to remove a key and wifi or something.
[01:44] <TJ-> A couple years ago we'd probably spend several hours trying to diagnose these weird issues, then a theme started to emerge, and ACPI OSI has proved to be a very quick and often succesful fix for all manner of issues
[01:44] <DaemonFC> Had that complaint in Fedora too, but I suspect the timeout in Fedora is like 5 seconds, so just never noticed.
[01:44] <DaemonFC> 90 seconds is nuts.
[01:44] <TJ-> the 'key' could be kernel Keyring I guess
[01:44] <DaemonFC> TJ-, So it's a voodoo stick now.
[01:45] <DaemonFC> If it's doing this and that does solve issues, then why not submit a patch to make it the default?
[01:45] <DaemonFC> Certainly seems easier than to tell 10 million people one at a time to add a command to a kernel line and update GRUB.
[01:45] <TJ-> No, it's proving almost vital to the point we're investigating applying the setting by default to avoid bad user experiences and reduce support load
[01:46] <Ben64> 90 seconds does seem a bit excessive
[01:46] <TJ-> that sounds like a typical systemd timeout - you see that with mount jobs at startup too
[01:46] <DaemonFC> Ben64, My thinking is 5 seconds should be the timeout because if a service can't shutdown by then it should just be shot at that point.
[01:47] <Ben64> i kept getting dropped to a shell because one of my drives had a problem, really strange
[01:47] <Ben64> wasn't / or /home, was just a random other drive
[01:47] <Ben64> if i was a normal user i wouldn't have been able to get back into ubuntu
[01:48] <DaemonFC> Ben64, LVM setup?
[01:48] <Ben64> no
[01:48] <Ben64> it couldn't mount /mnt/empire so it decided to die
[01:49] <DaemonFC> I personally think that LVM is overkill for a single drive desktop system *and* especially if you're going to use an LTS distro.
[01:49] <DaemonFC> I can see why Fedora uses it though.
[01:49] <Ben64> i have 7 drives in my computer :)
[01:49] <TJ-> Ben64: yes, I had a similar issue where systemd generator was creating a mount job for a UUID declared in fstab that wasn't mounted at boot-time (noauto). From the root shell I was trying to find a way to disable the job, but although you can list 'mount' type jobs there's no way to stop/disable them
[01:50] <DaemonFC> TJ-, I don't trust systemd in general.
[01:50] <Ben64> it doesn't care about 'nobootwait' either
[01:50] <DaemonFC> But it's there and there isn't much to do about it.
[01:51] <DaemonFC> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/05/linux_systemd_grants_root_to_invalid_user_accounts/
[01:51] <DaemonFC> Little things like this.
[01:51] <TJ-> LVM is great for my use-case; add/remove/extend/shrink snapshot/thinpool etc at will for testing. makes the job extremely flexible
[01:51] <DaemonFC> TJ-, tar/untar works
[01:52] <shazbotmcnasty> hey there - I'm getting 502 bad gateway on a site that I have
[01:52] <DaemonFC> In fact, that's why XFS has never supported shrinking a volume.
[01:52] <shazbotmcnasty> is it most likely caused by the page conf, or by nginx itself?
[01:52] <shazbotmcnasty> nothing has changed on either of them since it was working. not sure what happened.
[01:53] <TJ-> shazbotmcnasty: as always... read the log files!
[01:53] <TJ-> shazbotmcnasty: increase log verbosity if needed
[01:53] <DaemonFC> Well, at least that's some insanity that Ubuntu seems not to have been taken in by yet.
[01:53] <DaemonFC> systemd-journald
[01:54] <DaemonFC> Or "How I learned to stop worrying and love binary logs with core dumps injected into them.".
[02:25] <DaemonFC> Heh, Bluetooth. Cursed thing that it is.
[02:26] <DaemonFC> So reliable that I gave up a long time ago and bought a really long 3.5mm cable.
[02:30] <t0no6a> DaemonFC : poor's man tip : grab an old smatphone,connect via usb to pc/laptop;enable bluethooth;transfer archives TADAAAAAA
[02:48] <anden> i was running the crc32 command to calculate the checksum for a file, when it's done it gives me a message saying "BAD", i was wondering, bad compared to what? i'm not verifying the file, i'm computing it for the first time to know the checksum
[03:41] <Seveas> anden: what's the full command you ran and its output?
[03:45] <anden> Seveas: the command is $ crc32 23498724.bin
[03:45] <anden> output is: 0374ae4bBAD 0374ae4b != 10297181
[03:46] <anden> uhm, my irc client truncated a tab character, but it's supposed to be one just before "BAD"
[03:48] <anden> Seveas: my guess is this crc32 command actually reads the stored checksum that the file system uses (which in this case is wrong for some reason) and compares to the value it calculates
[03:49] <anden> the file is on a FAT32 filesystem and i think FAT32 uses crc32 to check file integrity
[03:50] <Dummbatz> i just installed ubuntu on an old lenovo t60 laptop (network install), but gdm's login screen looks distorted, i wonder if i could switch to another display manager ?
[03:55] <Dummbatz> ah wait, lightdm seems to work out of the box
[03:57] <DaemonFC> LightDM is kind of a bad idea with GNOME.
[03:57] <Dummbatz> hm, what would you suggest ?
[03:57] <DaemonFC> I mean, it will probably log you in, but it won't behave consistently with things like your GNOME power policy.
[03:58] <DaemonFC> Figuring out what went wrong with GDM? *shrug*
[04:02] <coffeeguy> hi is there a package for FF Quantum for 16.04.3
[04:03] <anden> coffeeguy: i think so, my firefox updated to quantum automatically
[04:03] <coffeeguy> hmm i think Quantum is ver 55 and i'm stuck on 54
[04:03] <anden> no, quantum is 57
[04:03] <coffeeguy> aah weird
[04:03] <leftyfb> coffeeguy: quantum is 57 and you will get it if you just do normal updates
[04:03]  * coffeeguy sudo apt updates :) ty
[04:04] <leftyfb> coffeeguy: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:04] <anden> i'm also on 16.04.3 and i got it just doing a regular sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:04] <rk4n3> hi
[04:04] <coffeeguy> aah ok that would make a difference thanks fellas :)
[04:05] <anden> coffeeguy: later, you can verify it by going to the help > about screen in firefox and it should say firefox quantum 57.0
[04:05] <DaemonFC> coffeeguy, Quantum is 57+
[04:06] <coffeeguy> great there it is :D
[04:06] <coffeeguy> 2 x faster and 30% less memory. i'm down with that
[04:09] <bratchley> anden: that utility is a perl script it looks like
[04:09] <anden> yes, that's what i found too
[04:09] <anden> why?
[04:09] <bratchley> I'm guessing you're running into that if statement
[04:09] <bratchley> with the regex around [:xdigit:]
[04:10] <anden> i think it's behaving like it should, because when i wrote the same file to that file system again it didn't produce that error
[04:10] <bratchley> did it have the same name?
[04:10] <anden> it only does it for the first file on there
[04:11] <anden> no, but if i copy the file, the copy gives me the same error
[04:24] <bratchley> I really don't think this could possibly be how they intended it to run
[04:24] <bratchley> and it's probably not super common to want to computer crc's on the command line so it's not like it would be immediately noticed if there were an issue
[04:25] <anden> i think the issue lies within the the file system itself
[04:25] <anden> when the original file was produced, the wrong checksum was written
[04:26] <bratchley> no it's definitely not that
[04:26] <anden> what makes you think that?
[04:27] <anden> like i said, when i write the same file to that filesystem again, i get the same checksum minus the error
[04:27] <anden> diffing the files also prove that they're identical
[04:29] <anden> if there is a low level utility that lets me read the checksum fat32 stores, i could verify my theory
[04:30] <bratchley> it's definitely not that
[04:30] <bratchley> you can open the script in vi
[04:30] <bratchley> it's like 15-20 lines
[04:30] <bratchley> nothing about filesystems
[04:31] <anden> okay, thanks, ill take a look
[04:36] <MrPockets> kind of surprised there aren't more people in #compiz
[04:36] <MrPockets> Anyone know if you can / how to configure rotate desktop cube on dual mouse click in 16.04?
[04:37] <anden> dual mouse click just anywhere?
[04:37] <MrPockets> yeah
[04:37] <anden> like, pressing both left and right mouse at the same time?
[04:37] <MrPockets> correct
[04:37] <MrPockets> used to be that way when I ran ubuntu way back
[04:37] <MrPockets> like 10.04
[04:38] <anden> really? wasn't it only when you clicked the desktop?
[04:38] <MrPockets> perhaps
[04:39] <anden> from what i can find in the configurator you can only select one button
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> anden: try compizconfig-settings-manager for all combinations
[04:39] <anden> i have a laptop still running 10.04 with compiz somewhere though
[04:39] <anden> that's what i'm in
[04:39] <MrPockets> likewise
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> anden: we dont support 10.04 anymore :p
[04:40] <anden> i know, and that's fine, i just thought i could boot it up for this guy to check how it actually behaved to confirm their memory
[04:40] <MrPockets> No sweat
[04:40] <MrPockets> thanks anyway!
[04:40] <GizmoRomick> does anyone know why filesystem would report 196Gb used when only about 16 Gb is actually there?
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> GizmoRomick: can you hastebin us your df -h ?
[04:41] <dedze> Hi, I can see that a new user was added in my auth.log, how can I investigate it?
[04:42] <GizmoRomick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25985701/
[04:43] <anden> GizmoRomick: maybe run k4dirstat and let it find where all the data is, it sums up everything very nicely
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> GizmoRomick: wich partition are you talking about?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> dedze: read your auth log?
[04:44] <GizmoRomick> lotuspsychje: /dev/mapper/ubuntu--mate--vg-root  212G  193G  8.0G  97% /
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> dedze: are you admin of your computer?
[04:45] <GizmoRomick> this is the result of the du command: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25985716/
[04:45] <dedze> lotuspsychje: Yes, but I'm a new user to ubuntu and still learning. Can installing a software add a user?
[04:45] <anden> yes
[04:45] <GizmoRomick> when I sum it all up, there is no way I am using that kind of space
[04:45] <cholby> hello
[04:45] <anden> dedze: many services add their own user that they use when they run
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> GizmoRomick: https://askubuntu.com/questions/296172/dev-mapper-full
[04:46] <dedze> anden: Oh I see, so that is probably what happened when i installed redshift!
[04:46] <anden> it is done for security reasons
[04:46] <GizmoRomick> anden: I'm taking a look at k4dirstat, but I'm not exactly sure how to read it
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> cholby: welcome
[04:46] <cholby> ty
[04:46] <anden> GizmoRomick: if you run it on the partition you had issues with it should put the biggest folder on top
[04:47] <anden> GizmoRomick: maybe you can send me a screenshot of that and i could help
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> GizmoRomick: i always clean system with bleachbit
[04:49] <cholby> bbl
[04:50] <GizmoRomick> anden: my k4dirstat https://photos.app.goo.gl/RYeLYuxFpjb0y2nE2
[04:50] <anden> GizmoRomick: now you're just selecting where to run it on. take it to / and press ok and it should start running
[04:50] <GizmoRomick> lotuspsychje: I tried following the advice in the askubuntu link to use the command sudo du -a / | sort -n -r | head -n 10 to see the largest 10 files, but all of those files are in my home directory.
[04:52] <leftyfb> GizmoRomick: cd ; du -sch .[!.]* * |sort -hr
[04:53] <leftyfb> GizmoRomick: your home directory is taking 259G
[04:53] <GizmoRomick> anden: this is my result from the scan: https://photos.app.goo.gl/IzekxnlkZo5hqIHm1
[04:53] <GizmoRomick> leftyfb: sorry if I didn't make it clearer earlier, my home directory is on a seperate drive
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> GizmoRomick: if df -h says its full, its full..clean up :p
[04:53] <GizmoRomick> lotuspsychje: I would need to know where the space is being used up
[04:54] <leftyfb> GizmoRomick: df -h /home
[04:54] <GizmoRomick> anden: I couldn't run k4dirstat with sudo, so I don't know if it is scanning everything
[04:54] <leftyfb> actually, nm, looks like /home is bigger than your root
[04:55] <anden> GizmoRomick: well, something is weird for sure. k4dirstat also implies that you aren't using much more than 16GB like you said
[04:55] <leftyfb> GizmoRomick: df -h /
[04:56] <GizmoRomick> anden: if I run it is root, is it likely it would find more?  whenever I try, it gives me the error "Coiuld not connect to display :0".  I'm running plasma 5.
[04:56] <anden> GizmoRomick: yes, that could work. did you run "sudo k4dirstat /" ?
[04:57] <leftyfb> GizmoRomick: what does df -h /    tell you?
[04:57] <GizmoRomick> leftyfb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25985765/
[04:57] <anden> it shouldn't be able to see usage in the /root directory for example, since it's not allowed to read it
[04:57] <GizmoRomick> anden: this is what happens when I try to run it as sudo http://paste.ubuntu.com/25985768/
[04:57] <leftyfb> GizmoRomick: sudo du -sch .[!.]* / |sort -hr
[04:58] <GizmoRomick> anden: I could switch user and log into the root account, I just would lose the chat window with you guys
[04:58] <leftyfb> GizmoRomick: there's really no need to be doing this with the GUI, it'll only slow you down
[04:58] <GizmoRomick> leftyfb: No matches for wildcard “.[!.]*”.
[04:58] <anden> GizmoRomick: yeah, try the command leftyfb suggest first at least
[04:59] <GizmoRomick> leftyfb: i'm using fish if that matters.  I could switch term if I need to
[04:59] <anden> just type bash and press enter
[04:59] <anden> then run the command again there
[04:59] <leftyfb> GizmoRomick: sudo du -sch /* |sort -hr
[04:59] <GizmoRomick> anded: didn't know that, thank you
[04:59] <anden> you're welcome
[05:00] <GizmoRomick> leftyfb: this is from the first one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25985784/
[05:01] <leftyfb> first is kinda pointless, sorry
[05:01] <GizmoRomick> leftyfb: this is the second: paste.ubuntu.com/25985791/
[05:02] <GizmoRomick> what is up with the first 5 lines I always see with du
[05:02] <leftyfb> GizmoRomick: sudo du -schx /* |sort -hr
[05:02] <leftyfb> that's normal
[05:02] <GizmoRomick> leftyfb: got an error: "GizmoRomick:: command not found"....just kidding
[05:02] <leftyfb> oh wait
[05:02] <anden> GizmoRomick: if i'm reading it correctly, you have a folder called .steam in your root that is 37G? still not all of the data but more than 16G at least
[05:03] <leftyfb> well first, you pasted in your name
[05:03] <leftyfb> but I'm pretty sure I know the answer
[05:03] <GizmoRomick> anden: the directory .steam is actually ~/.steam
[05:03] <anden> oh.
[05:03] <GizmoRomick> leftyfb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25985797/
[05:04] <anden> right, it was the * that got expanded to all the files in your home folder :P a good reason to put * within quotes
[05:04] <GizmoRomick> I wonder if running SpinRite might help.  Do you think it may be something to do with the drive?
[05:04] <leftyfb> GizmoRomick: I would log out of your user and either login as root on the console or with a live cd, unmount /home ... I bet the original /home directory on that root drive still has files in it that you're not seeing because the other drive is mounted over it
[05:05] <GizmoRomick> leftyfb: I'll give that a shot
[05:05] <anden> oh yeah that is probably it
[05:05] <anden> another /home
[05:06] <anden> good thinking
[05:06] <GizmoRomick> I need to go running if I am going to do it at all tonight, but I will try it later tonight and will get back with you if you're still in the channel.  Thank you,
[05:06] <leftyfb> I will be AFK
[05:07] <anden> i might be here, but i think you'l find the answer using a live environment
[05:11] <GizmoRomick> I hope so
[05:11] <GizmoRomick> Its what I get for making things more complicated than my capacity to troubleshoot
[05:29] <miebster> I've stumbled into a problem and my google-foo is failing.  I'm trying to run pcm which calls the perf tool.  I've tried installing perf by using apt-get linux-tools-generic, but when I run perf I see "
[05:29] <miebster> "you may need to install 'linux-tools-4.10.0-38-generic'".  When when I run apt-get install linux-tools-4.10.0-38-generic i get "E: Unable to locate package linux-tools-4.10.0-38-generic"
[05:30] <miebster> It appears this package should exist https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/linux-tools-4.10.0-38-generic, but apt-get says it doesn't.  I'm using a fresh install of 16.04
[05:35] <Ronjoe> so, I've got a buddy experiencing Xorg issues
[05:35] <Ronjoe> while waiting for them to register with nickserv, I'll give you a little info
[05:35] <Ronjoe> the user is technobaboo
[05:36] <Ronjoe> they're experiencing an X "no screens found" error on startup
[05:36] <Ronjoe> this X environment *did* work previously, but has stopped working for unknown reasons
[05:37] <Ronjoe> I directed user to try rebooting, then removing Xorg.conf, which didn't exist
[05:37] <Ronjoe> no avail
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> !details | Ronjoe all in 1 line plz
[05:39] <Ronjoe> Just direct that same question toward technobaboo when they join. Apologies, I'm a stranger to this channel, and wasn't aware of a one-line policy
[05:40] <miebster> So the latest 16.04 ships with kernel 4.10.0-38 but the only linux-tools in the package repos are 4.4.0.21.22, this seems like a big problem right?
[05:41] <miebster> Can anyone verify that perf can actually be installed on 16.04?  Because from what I can tell, it can't be.
[05:41] <Ben64> !info linux-tools-4.10.0-38-generic xenial
[05:42] <Ben64> btw, kernel 4.13 is in xenial too
[05:43] <miebster> Ben64, sudo apt-get install linux-tools-4.10.0-38-generic >>>> E: Unable to locate package linux-tools-4.10.0-38-generic
[05:44] <Ben64> you'd probably want linux-tools-generic-hwe-16.04
[05:45] <miebster> Unable to locate package linux-tools-generic-hwe-16.04
[05:45] <Ben64> are you on 16.04
[05:46] <miebster> Linux broadsim-ex 4.10.0-38-generic #42~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 10 16:32:20 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:46] <miebster> I think something is broken, and not on my end
[05:46] <Ben64> no it is on your end
[05:46] <Ben64> pastebin the output of "sudo apt update"
[05:47] <miebster> http://paste.ubuntu.com/25986024/
[05:47] <Ben64> you're missing a few repos
[05:48] <miebster> this is a fresh install of 16.04.  So if I am missing repos, it's a bug in 16.04
[05:48] <Ben64> no
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> miebster: can you recall wich iso you installed, .2 or .3?
[05:52] <miebster> lotuspsychje I'm pretty sure .3
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> miebster: did you update system during setup?
[05:53] <miebster> no we did not
[05:53] <Ben64> whats the sha1sum of the iso
[05:56] <miebster> I have the usb but not the iso that made the usb
[05:56] <miebster> that would be on my coworkers laptop when he made the usb, can I get the shasum from it?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !md5 | miebster
[05:57] <Ben64> just installed 16.04.3 on a vm
[05:57] <Ben64> yep, has all the normal repos
[05:59] <miebster> what repos am I missing?
[05:59] <Ben64> security updates backports
[06:00] <Ben64> and you have added the chrome repo, so you did obviously change something with that already
[06:00] <miebster> that was probably done automatically when we installed chrome
[06:00] <Ronjoe> that happens automatically
[06:01] <tatertotz> Ronjoe: looks like your buddy never showed up
[06:01] <Ronjoe> they're here, just not speaking for whatever reason
[06:01] <tatertotz> gun shy maybe
[06:01] <Ronjoe> I think they're busy with some mod drama in another community
[06:02] <tatertotz> wow mod drama...who knew
[06:02] <Ronjoe> I'm asking them to pastebin the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log just for starters
[06:02] <miebster> should these missing repos be in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:02] <Ben64> miebster: you should  be able to enable them from Software Sources
[06:04] <tatertotz> Ronjoe: the drama is obviously more important....you should be asking them for the play by play of the mod drama...
[06:04] <Ronjoe> sigh
[06:05] <miebster> Under Software & Updates > Updates, the check boxes that say Important security updates, recommended updates, and unsupported updates are all unchecked.
[06:06] <Ben64> yeah you should check them, also main, universe, multiverse, restricted
[06:07] <miebster> okay now linux-tools-4.10.0-38-generic is found
[06:08] <Ben64> you'd probably want linux-tools-generic-hwe-16.04 still
[06:10] <miebster> okay I think im past this issue, but pcm still doesn't work, but I don't think this channel can solve that
[06:17] <Ronjoe> well, they gave me a blow-by-blow of the drama, and it's pretty ugly
[06:17] <Ronjoe> this might be a while
[06:18] <Ronjoe> well damn
[06:19] <Ronjoe> looks like they're shutting down emotionally, so there's nothing more that can be done here. Sorry for the annoyance. Good night, and thanks for the patience.
[07:00] <Sean-Der> I am using Ubuntu Xenial in Azure and getting a SIGILL `0x00007f3429b4cedc _xend (libpthread.so.0)` I can confirm that SO has two instances of that instruction and https://github.com/andikleen/tsx-tools confirms that my CPU doesn't support it
[07:00] <Sean-Der> Does anyone have an idea about what to do in this case
[07:04] <mr_lou> So my Blu-ray burner can't be detected by my burner apps anymore. Has been worked fine for years, so some update has apparently screwed it up. Put it in the girlfriends Windoze machine instead where it works fine. We need to have one each anyway, so I'm gonna buy another. Are there any special brands or models that works better with Ubuntu than other brands and models?
[07:05] <mr_lou> The current one is from Asus. Considering buying an LG for myself now.
[07:10] <crc32> Can't install ubuntu17.10 from ISO. During the installation it claims it can't download lxd as it depends on libgolang but it is not insallable. This is a first
[07:11] <crc32> any one know why a bootable ISO of ubuntu17.10 can't install lxd nor does it give me a choice about installing it.
[07:11] <ItsMeLenny> so i installed the mate desktop environment on top of ubuntu 17.10 and i can no longer use gnome-control-center it just pops up blank, so i have no way to get to the wacom settings, is there another way to access wacom settings or is there another GUI settings program out there?
[07:19] <ducasse> ItsMeLenny: for the gnome settings to work, i think you need some gnome daemon running
[07:23] <ItsMeLenny> ducasse, not related to the goa-daemon is it?
[07:24] <ducasse> that's probably 'gnome online accounts', so i wouldn't think so
[07:25] <ItsMeLenny> oh, whys that running, dont need that
[07:26] <ItsMeLenny> know how to start the gnome daemon?
[07:27] <ducasse> no idea which one you need - gnome-settings-daemon, maybe?
[07:30] <alexas> i see this in syslog wlp3s0: WPA: Group rekeying completed with f0:79:59:23:5b:c7 [GTK=CCMP]
[07:30] <alexas> does it a standart procedure or me fell wictim of this recent key exchange hack =)
[07:31] <alexas> i also get this quite often
[07:31] <alexas>  gtk_widget_destroy: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed
[07:32] <crc32> yea the most recent ubuntu 17.10 can't be installed from the bootable iso. Says lxd can't be installed due to a dependency on libgo
[07:33] <crc32> how did something like this break out of the box guys
[07:34] <crc32> I'm refering to ubuntu 17.10 server amd64
[07:34] <mboard> right so, I have a Dell Inspiron 15 5000 2 in 1 laptop.  Is there anyway I can check this laptop for compatibility with Ubuntu Desktop?  Especially for the touch screen and tablet mode?
[07:35] <amosbird> hello,
[07:35] <amosbird> how can I simulate a key press event using gd?
[07:35] <amosbird> gdk
[07:35] <Ben64> xdotool?
[07:37] <amosbird> um, i mean in gdk code
[07:39] <ItsMeLenny> ducasse, cant find a gnome settings daemon
[07:40] <ItsMeLenny> just a keyring one
[07:40] <gp5st> hello. netcat seems to only read from a single udp client (`nc -k -l -u -p 7890` for the server) I've tried both the openbsd and traditional nc packages
[07:40] <gp5st> some people say that -w works, but it doesn't seem to?
[07:45] <Ben64> crc32: lxd is already installed
[07:47] <tatertotz> gp5st: what specifically are you attempting to accomplish?
[07:48] <gp5st> tatertotz, I have a little app sending out udp traffic to a specific port and I just want to listen for it. however, when the app restarts nc doesn't show anything from the new session
[07:48] <BlakJak> mboard: boot the liveimage and see what works?
[07:48] <crc32> it happens during the instll software portion of the install. I  choose ssh-server then poof it tels me lxd can't be install because it depends on go. This is according to syslog which I can acces by useing Ctrl+Alt + F2
[07:49] <ducasse> amosbird: programming is not supported here
[07:50] <tatertotz> gp5st: do you have complete control over when the "little app" sends and or listens?...do you know what numerical value for a port number it sends on?
[07:50] <gp5st> tatertotz, yes and yes
[07:50] <gp5st> the issue seems to be nc doesn't listen for anything beyond the first sender
[07:51] <tatertotz> gp5st: and you know the "name" of the "little app" also?
[07:51] <gp5st> tatertotz, name? it's a little python script i'm writing
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