| bluesabre | flocculant: good deal | 00:00 |
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| flocculant | np | 00:00 |
| bluesabre | Will send you so much stuff to test | 00:00 |
| flocculant | heh | 00:00 |
| bluesabre | Heading to dinner now, bbl | 00:00 |
| flocculant | speak tomorrow at some point then :) | 00:00 |
| flocculant | have a good evening | 00:00 |
| knome | bon appetit bluesabre | 00:00 |
| flocculant | knome: snealy ... | 00:08 |
| flocculant | oh sigh, sneaky | 00:08 |
| knome | what? :) | 00:08 |
| flocculant | no ACTION for Core on the logs :p | 00:09 |
| knome | ugh | 00:09 |
| knome | action is on bluesabre | 00:09 |
| flocculant | :p | 00:09 |
| flocculant | is it ... ;) | 00:10 |
| flocculant | logs don't agree lol | 00:10 |
| knome | didn't he like it on the top? | 00:10 |
| knome | :P | 00:10 |
| flocculant | ha ha ha | 00:10 |
| flocculant | night then ... | 00:10 |
| flocculant | :D | 00:10 |
| knome | nighty ;) | 00:10 |
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| jbicha | flexiondotorg: one issue that I believe Xubuntu was concerned about is that libatrildocument3 depends on libjs-mathjax | 00:43 |
| jbicha | also GNOME these days offers libgepub which is integrated into the gnome-documents app (well technically GNOME Books) but not into evince yet | 00:44 |
| jbicha | so that needs a bunch of work probably, but that's a pointer if anyone wants to work on epub support in atril/evince | 00:45 |
| jbicha | see LP: #241736, GNOME doesn't seem very interested in it | 00:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 241736 in evince (Ubuntu) "support EPUB format" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/241736 | 00:46 |
| flexiondotorg | jbicha: Thanks for the info. Very useful. | 02:09 |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r645 Disable window previews in Xfwm4's alt-tab dialog... (by Sean Davis) | 02:18 | |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r646 Do not show the label in the xfce4-power-manager panel plugi... (by Sean Davis) | 02:18 | |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r647 Add UNRELEASED changelog (by Sean Davis) | 02:18 | |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r648 * etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4... (by Sean Davis) | 02:18 | |
| bluesabre | Unit193, flexiondotorg, jbicha ... just going through the packages a bit briefly, might be able to decouple some of the depends and recommends to have some make requirements lighter https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WicgA_g4seBsMitXNVM5pmAIYf1cwSgqAzfK7yeqIHw/edit?usp=sharing | 05:14 |
| bluesabre | Will investigate more this weekend | 05:14 |
| jbicha | Ubuntu's file-roller has this diff from Debian (Depend on zip & unzip instead of p7zip-full which is in universe) | 05:18 |
| jbicha | this might be nice to cherry-pick: https://git.gnome.org/browse/file-roller/commit/?id=219ca07 | 05:19 |
| jbicha | cherry-pick to engrampa I mean | 05:19 |
| jbicha | xubuntu-icon-theme doesn't provide engrampa.png yet | 05:23 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: ^ | 05:35 |
| knome | bluesabre, when upgrading to artful, the terminal loses one configuration bit; the custom cursor. more exactly, the custom color is kept but the option to use the custom color is disabled... | 13:44 |
| bluesabre | knome: might be something related to the gtk3 terminal | 13:48 |
| knome | yeah, why not, but it's fixable by simply going to the settings and enabling this | 13:49 |
| knome | something to consider for 18.04 to make sure we're migrating smoothly :) | 13:49 |
| mun24 | how to change wallpaper using remote shell? | 13:51 |
| bluesabre | knome, cool, want to file a bug report for that (to LP) | 13:51 |
| bluesabre | mun24: #xubuntu is the support channel (... and I do not know the answer) | 13:53 |
| knome | bluesabre, i'll do it today | 13:55 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: debdiff for engrampa packaging, want to build and test? (works for me) http://paste.ubuntu.com/25988577/ | 14:49 |
| flexiondotorg | bluesabre Initial upstream discussions about collaborating with Xubuntu and Ubuntu Unity have been positive. | 15:49 |
| flexiondotorg | We should target upstream first for any required patches. | 15:50 |
| flexiondotorg | We are discussing creating a team for developers from other DEs using MATE applications on the MATE GitHub to streamline collaboration. Sound agreeable? | 15:51 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Part of the deal with GNOME was that they needed stuff only from main, but we can use universe just fine. | 16:02 |
| Unit193 | So the only "regression" that's a feature lost in xfpm might be if the tray icon is gone, and I thought it was. | 16:03 |
| bluesabre | flexiondotorg: sounds good to me | 16:04 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: I figured that some parity between ubuntu and flavors would be a good thing | 16:05 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: re xfpm, I think that's being looked into currently, I'd expect a new release sometime shortly (ochosi, thoughts?) | 16:05 |
| Unit193 | Mmm, depends. Ubuntu loses features just because they're in universe, we simply don't have that limitation. | 16:06 |
| bluesabre | Though, I'm not opposed to shipping p7zip-full, I install it anyway to support 7z and other archive formats | 16:06 |
| bluesabre | Definitely good for a broader discussion between flavors and definitely the MATE team :) | 16:07 |
| Unit193 | Keep in mind I looked at xfpm a while ago then bailed, so I don't really know the current git state at all. :P | 16:07 |
| Unit193 | Also lots of pings about Core. 1. I'm still of the mindset that after 4+ years, we shouldn't be renaming it as it's already known as 'Xubuntu Core'. 2. I'm not entirely sure, if the patches get in, what else there is that I've stopped bothering about. I still keep an eye on the seed, but we don't make a lot of seed changes anyway. | 16:10 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: could you take another look and let us know what issues are blocking xfpm for you? | 16:11 |
| bluesabre | Especially since we've been avoiding it for ~2 years :) | 16:12 |
| bluesabre | Regarding Core, still seems like a better name to me, and that's not a good reason to block it | 16:15 |
| Unit193 | I'd rather not, but I suppose I should. | 16:22 |
| bluesabre | Thanks Unit193... I'll try to make sure bionic is not a headache for you :) | 16:23 |
| Unit193 | Heh, thanks. But some things are unavoidable. | 16:24 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Also thanks for picking up core, and moving to mate components, and everything else I'm missing. | 16:27 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: figured we should start the LTS strong so there's time to fix bugs :) | 16:27 |
| bluesabre | and flocculant has been pushing us to get things done early too | 16:28 |
| bluesabre | QA people ;) | 16:28 |
| Unit193 | I've nearly got my shiny package done so I can test re-installs again. | 16:36 |
| knome | bluesabre, hmm, apparently we also lost bold text color | 18:33 |
| Unit193 | Works for me. | 18:35 |
| knome | hmm, and selection | 18:47 |
| ochosi | Unit193: the tray icon is not gone in 1.6 | 20:44 |
| ochosi | it's still there and fully functional | 20:44 |
| Unit193 | ...Did it go away and come back at some point? | 20:44 |
| ochosi | no | 20:45 |
| ochosi | it was always there | 20:45 |
| ochosi | but in the experimental PPA i get an error | 20:45 |
| ochosi | xfdesktop4 : Depends: libgarcon-gtk3-1-0 (>= 0.6.0) but it is not going to be installed | 20:45 |
| ochosi | Unit193: you can enable it from the settings dialog's first tab, as always | 20:46 |
| Unit193 | ...Ok, so I remember it going away then coming back..Strange. | 20:46 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Also, that really shouldn't be a problem.. | 20:52 |
| ochosi | Unit193: now, thinking back, i think there was a release where we dropped it or considered dropping it but the fact that lxde/lubuntu was using it at the time was a deciding factor not to do so. but anyway, in 1.6 it's still there | 21:43 |
| ochosi | what to do about that packaging problem of garcon and xfdesktop though? | 21:43 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Right, the lxde panel plugin was added, then the whole ordeal was reverted afaik. And, as I said it *should* be fine, considering it was all built against everything. I'm presuming you're on Artful. | 22:05 |
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