 Just having one of my entrepreneurial ideas.
 At the meeting on Friday we talked about paid developer positions, and I got to putting my thinking cap on
 How about creating a membership club, where members contribute a monthly amount. I'm not thinking Patreon, but something more like nationbuilder.com - This provides for a central Kubuntu group, along with chapters ( or sub groups )
 Really it's designed for political parties, but there is so much overlap, we could use a toll like that for community growth, which is pretty much what a political party does.
 The funds raised from the members gets used to develop our core, providing funding for growth and development.
 Just a crazy idea at this point, but if the KC thinks it worth pursuing I can look into it in more detail.
 @Sick_Rimmit, I disagree with not using Patreon — it's a platform that many people recognize and are already on (including myself) and has shown great success for flavors like Ubuntu MATE, who get upwards of $1700 a month.
 Screws over people outside the US though
 Oh?
 Ubuntu MATE is a British project :P
 Depends what you do with the money
 Its fine for people in the US
 It's worth looking at the nation holder link, it's much more than Paterson, it's about community development
[18:40] <clivejo> the EU see it as exporting a service so 20% VAT is payable
[18:41] <clivejo> 5% Transaction fee, 5% Patreon fee
[18:42] <clivejo> and then transfering $ to £
 But the UK isn't part of the EU :P
 *runs*
[18:43] <clivejo> unfortunately it is
[18:45] <clivejo> if you do decide to go patreon, be better to setup a US part
 I'm still behind Patreon
 Same
 We actually agree on something :P
 if you do, let me recommend you :P
 The US think might be a issue but we can use a US bank and transfer. I know the convert rate will be a but off but it's possible
[21:03] <valorie> the tools all suck, for sure