[00:03] <mr-day> hi
[00:03] <tsimonq2> Hey hey
[00:03] <mr-day> ^^ i wanna ask, how to remove login screen on first boot
[00:05] <tsimonq2> mr-day: So just log in right away?
[00:06] <tsimonq2> mr-day: This might work: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Enabling_autologin
[00:10] <mr-day> tsimonq2: i'm confused on autologin group, is lubuntu dont have gui settings?
[00:10] <tsimonq2> mr-day: Not for this particular thing, no.
[00:11] <tsimonq2> mr-day: Although if you open a terminal and run `sudo nano FILE` where FILE is the file it specifies to edit, you should be good.
[00:16] <xympos> uhh what
[00:16] <xympos> hello :O
[00:16] <tsimonq2> Hey xympos, how's it going?
[00:16] <xympos> oh well.... not good ill tell you that V_V
[00:17] <xympos> im like... idk 90% sure that something is wrong with this iso
[00:17] <tsimonq2> Did you verify the checksum before you tried using it?
[00:17] <xympos> yup. ive tried everything
[00:17] <xympos> shall i begin listing things now?
[00:18] <tsimonq2> Sure
[00:18] <xympos> well to start off.... i tried the 64bit iso and the alternate
[00:18] <xympos> then i noticed the alt was half the size
[00:18] <xympos> i verfied md5 for both with those provided on the official site
[00:18] <xympos> they match
[00:18] <xympos> then when i toss the alt in any system the built in integrity check always fails it
[00:19] <xympos> to be fair i only tried rufus for tossing it onto a usb but the usb is known good
[00:19] <tsimonq2> Hm, what system are you using to put the ISO on the disk?
[00:19] <xympos> but im not worried about the alt because thats a whole diffsou
[00:19] <xympos> win 10 1709
[00:19] <xympos> whole diff soup of nonsense*
[00:20] <xympos> back to the main 64 bit iso
[00:20] <xympos> the md5 matches and it passes the verify test thats built in
[00:20] <xympos> great right? lets install
[00:21] <xympos> soon as it gets to grub2 package it fails with... let me grab the error but im sure you can guess
[00:21] <xympos> grub efi amd64 signed package failed to install into target
[00:22] <xympos> and im like. what? this is a stripped version of ubuntu
[00:22] <xympos> which btw installs just fine. on both machines. with the same flash drive. using same rufus
[00:22] <xympos> man i tried it all
[00:23] <xympos> manually using gparted to make partitions. one machine is uefi w secure boot one is uefi w/o secure boot (back when win 7 was just getting into uefi)
[00:23] <wxl> what's up tsimonq2 ?
[00:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: Have had some interesting support questions today :)
[00:24] <xympos> i made efi partitions with the right flags, i made bios grub partition flags
[00:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: This is one where I'm a bit unsure as well
[00:24] <xympos> i even tried to install ubuntu and use its grub to piggyback "install alongside ubuntu"
[00:24] <xympos> i tried wiping all but the grub partition from ubuntu as well
[00:24] <wxl> if it's efi i don't have a lot of experience :(
[00:25] <xympos> and after all that i had the sense to try to do it on my fairly new machine and still nothing
[00:25] <xympos> im telling you that iso is faulty
[00:25] <xympos> as magical as it seems its like noone tested it or something V_V
[00:25] <wxl> which iso is this?
[00:26] <xympos> and i work as a tech so i mean.... im hoping you guys have more insight. ive asked my buddies no one has a clue
[00:26] <xympos> well tbh sadly BOTH the 64bit and the 64bit alt
[00:26] <wxl> which version?
[00:26] <xympos> 17.10
[00:26] <wxl> did you check the hashes?
[00:26] <xympos> dang. its like being transfered in comcast
[00:27] <xympos> XD
[00:27] <xympos> yes i checked the hashes >.<
[00:27] <wxl> and you checked the image at the grub menu
[00:27] <tsimonq2> xympos: Honestly, you'd be surprised how many people *don't* check the hashes :P
[00:27] <tsimonq2> That's why it's the first question we ask with that sort of thing.
[00:28] <xympos> yeah i know i know XD im just like.. confused by this irc. i havent had much irc experience so im wondering why it doesnt show history in this channel
[00:28] <xympos> hash match for both isos. integrity fails for 64bit alt but passes for 64 main link.
[00:28] <xympos> which is SUPER weird.
[00:28] <wxl> if the integrity fails you have a copy error
[00:29] <wxl> hashes just check for a download error
[00:29] <xympos> how so
[00:29] <wxl> you should be able to recopy the alt and make it work
[00:29] <xympos> copy from where to where
[00:29] <wxl> from the iso to the media you copy it to
[00:30] <xympos> and what copy error would you be reffering to?
[00:30] <xympos> well it seems to have a copy error every time. i tried several usbs diff brands
[00:30] <wxl> what did you use to copy it?
[00:30] <xympos> im sure their chips are still all the same though V_V
[00:30] <xympos> rufus 2.18p
[00:30] <wxl> uh
[00:30] <wxl> yeah well supposedly rufus works but i've seen a lot of problems
[00:30] <wxl> dd works 99.99999999% of the time
[00:31] <wxl> everything else is maybe 50%
[00:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: He's on win10
[00:31] <wxl> but clearly you're on windows and i don't know about how that works
[00:31] <xympos> but thats besides the point thats the alt iso which for whatever reason is half the size of regular iso. not an "alt link" or mirror to the download. how thats not explained idk nor why
[00:31] <wxl> the alt iso has a lot less
[00:31] <xympos> so agin back to the main iso
[00:31] <xympos> hash and integrity pass
[00:32] <wxl> ok so what's the problem again?
[00:32] <xympos> grub efi amd64 signed package failed to install into target
[00:33] <wxl> so the install went along fine until the ned?
[00:33] <xympos> yup
[00:34] <xympos> my only regret is not trying it on my infinitely much faster laptop so i could see the error in 1 min instead of the 10-15 min wait on the old machine that its meant for V_V
[00:34] <xympos> not trying it tillthe end that is... i did try it... same thing
[00:35] <xympos> if someone could load that iso on a real machine (as i am out of machines) that could make me feel better
[00:35] <xympos> i mean i guess i could give vm a try but i feel like i wouldnt trust those results
[00:38] <xympos> ill give vmbox a go real quick
[00:38] <wxl> what type of install are you doing xympos ?
[00:39] <xympos> hopefully i cang et back into this channel after i patch this network interface to the vm
[00:39] <xympos> what you mean by type?
[00:39] <wxl> like did you request any sort of encryption or anything?
[00:39] <xympos> direct install off the usb without loading to desktop
[00:39] <xympos> i tried both
[00:39] <xympos> lvm and no encryption
[00:39] <wxl> did you try just the standard setup?
[00:39] <wxl> so no lvm and no encryption?
[00:40] <xympos> right
[00:40] <xympos> i gave all options a try xD
[00:40] <wxl> and that still failed? weird
[00:40] <xympos> indeed
[00:44] <xympos> ok vm set up here we go fingers crossed
[00:44] <wxl> xympos: can you get the install back to where it was and then look at the logs? i belive it's on virtual terminal 3 or 4
[00:45] <wxl> i expect the problem to Just Work™ on a vm as it will likely not be UEFI
[00:45] <wxl> and that signed binary indicates it's a UEFI thing
[00:46] <xympos> i can try to look at logs but what would i look for? those machines have no oob networking
[00:46] <xympos> well i guess i could just bridge my laptop to it >.>
[00:47] <wxl> the error should be at the end and should be pretty obvious
[00:47] <wxl> but i have seen errors in the past that were somehow caused by a lack of networking
[00:48] <xympos> that could make sense for a new install on some random machine
[00:48] <xympos> but when ubuntu 17.10 installs fine and lubuntu dosent... i think a diff issue is at hand
[00:48] <wxl> it's certainly not the intention
[00:50] <tsimonq2> xympos: One more thing, if you could.
[00:50] <xympos> i would highly prefer to install lubuntu uefi - as it should be capable of doing
[00:50] <xympos> i could try doing full bios / csm instal
[00:50] <xympos> yes?
[00:50] <wxl> it should work without problem
[00:50] <tsimonq2> xympos: Try booting into the live instance, opening a terminal, and running this: `sudo apt update && sudo apt install grub-efi-amd64-signed shim-signed`
[00:50] <wxl> but if we had that log it would be easy to figure out the problem
[00:51] <tsimonq2> xympos: If the install works after that, you've found a bug.
[00:51] <wxl> tsimonq2: based on my recent xenial→zesty upgrade, shim-signed is no longer needed
[00:51] <tsimonq2> wxl: How so?
[00:52] <xympos> with no networking what would it update from?
[00:52] <wxl> the shim is no longer necessary
[00:52] <xympos> and you want me to do that from > load to desktop ? or just scroll over to a desktop and pop a terminal
[00:52] <xympos> if the bug is installng lubuntu as a whole then i say its  a pretty big bug
[00:52] <xympos> btw.. the virtual machine install totally didnt work at all . el oh el
[00:53] <xympos> it fails worse than my computers.
[00:53] <wxl> how is that?
[00:53] <tsimonq2> xympos: Actually, apologies, I've eliminated that as being the problem.
[00:53] <xympos> i did use vm to verify integrity it passed.
[00:53] <xympos> after i pres install it just goes white noise / scanline style nonsense
[00:54] <xympos> im pretty sure i didnt set up vmbox incorrectly i mean its kinda impossible
[00:54] <wxl> that's probably some issues with the graphics driver
[00:54] <wxl> it's happened before with virtual machines of all kinds
[00:54] <xympos> hmmm
[00:54] <xympos> well i can dedicate a gpu to it possible one sc
[00:55] <wxl> *driver* not resources
[00:56] <xympos> no no it fixed it
[00:56] <xympos> im in the installer now
[00:56] <xympos> as im going through the installer i can mention a couple more things
[00:57] <xympos> i have never tried installing 3rd party drivers etc during any of the installs. - if that could help (although it shouldn't)
[01:00] <xympos> cuz the vm was using software to render right . by givingit a dedicated resource it could use actual driver? no ? idk :O
[01:01] <wxl> tsimonq2: `apt rdepends shim-signed` shows nothing. i.e. nothing depends on it.
[01:02] <tsimonq2> right
[01:02] <tsimonq2> hm
[01:02] <tsimonq2> wxl: Except it's still seeded in Bionic...
[01:02] <xympos> the vm installed it fine
[01:02] <wxl> yeah that's probably a mistake
[01:02] <wxl> s/mistake/oversight/
[01:02] <wxl> i bet you no installed system has it on there or at least it's set to autoremove
[01:03] <xympos> so do you want me to get the install going to see the logs at the end when loads me into desktop?
[01:04] <wxl> xympos: yes. start with a no-lvm no-encryption install
[01:04] <xympos> sure. but since i cant do it on this system will take like 10 min hopefully less on older machine
[01:05] <wxl> ko
[01:06] <xympos> btw my rufus is set to gpt for uefi and system is uefi (no secure boot)
[01:06] <xympos> hdd in gpt
[01:12] <xympos> its going. update you guys in 5 mins
[01:12] <tsimonq2> Ok
[01:19] <xympos> alright im at the bug report right after the installer
[01:19] <xympos> if the file is logged somewhere on the live session i cang et it
[01:19] <wxl> so flip through the virtual terminals ctrl-alt-f1, ctrl-alt-f2, etc. until you see the logs
[01:19] <wxl> you din't turn it off did you?? :(
[01:20] <xympos> no no i still have it up
[01:21] <xympos> theres nothing up to terminal 7 and f2-f4 is not a terminal shortcut but i guess i can try past 7
[01:22] <xympos> yeah nothing in terminals at all nor the desktops.
[01:23] <wxl> wth
[01:23] <xympos> just the send problem report to developer screen
[01:23] <wxl> can you get to a terminal at all?
[01:23] <xympos> i can see packages dependencies hookerror source
[01:23] <xympos> if i click send it wil put me in live session so yeah
[01:23] <xympos> also doing ctrl alt f5 will put me in terminal its just blank
[01:30] <xympos> i stepped into the live desktop but here are a couple snaps of main screen after and what seemed to be relevant info . let me know if you need something else also brb gonna grab a bite
[01:31] <xympos> https://imgur.com/a/910vh
[01:54] <xympos> well im back... any news?
[01:58] <wxl> xympos: open up the terminal and look in /var/log. dmesg, syslog, or perhaps some installer log might get us what we're looking for
[02:09] <xympos> i can try ... uhhh will be a few min
[02:24] <xympos> im looking at the syslog file now
[02:24] <xympos> i can try to post it ina sec
[02:24] <xympos> "unable to to locate package shim-signed" since you mentioned it earlier
[02:30] <xympos> well here it is ... im not sure what more i could get
[02:30] <xympos> http://text-share.com/view/8e678dc1#L8
[02:32] <xympos> starting at line 1558 i think ...
[02:34] <xympos> from what it looks like it gives it another attempt over network... perhaps i can solve this issue if im connected during installation :v but i definitely dont feel like that should be a prerequisite for installing lubuntu
[02:44] <xympos_> Uhh yeah so if you guys have any insight let me know
[02:45] <xympos_> I’m going to lay down or sleep but I’ll leave my pc on so leave your ideas on here I’ll definitely look for it when I wake up (ctrl-f : xympos)
[02:45] <xympos_> Thanks :)
[02:46] <tsimonq2> o/
[03:24] <mrchuckderp> hey tsimonq2
[03:24] <tsimonq2> yo
[03:24] <tsimonq2> What's up mrchuckderp?
[03:25] <mrchuckderp> just updating you about earlier
[03:25] <mrchuckderp> so: the problem is, I can't find a boot disc for windows 7 but when I do I can fix the problem. My dad went to college for computers and he said back then he made basically the same mistakes BUT he had a boot disc for literally everything lol
[03:26] <mrchuckderp> so currently I'm looking for either a boot disk or getting an iso
[03:27] <tsimonq2> So you can boot into the installed Lubuntu right? Try doing that, opening a terminal, `sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/sdX` where /dev/sdX is replaced by the disk name of the main hard drive
[03:27] <tsimonq2> It *should* find Windows 7
[03:27] <mrchuckderp> YES
[03:27] <mrchuckderp> oops
[03:28] <mrchuckderp> I can boot into it, and actually I'm currently in the installer usb because the other one still has no internet
[03:29] <mrchuckderp> well then
[03:30] <mrchuckderp> lol the product key on the back of my pc,
[03:30] <mrchuckderp> I put it into the microsoft website and apparently it's "only for preinstalled software" whatever that means
[03:30] <mrchuckderp> well I'll do what I can. Have a good night
[07:38] <El_> Hi. I need help setting up Lubuntu 16.04.3 (Alternate) on my ancient MSI Wind U100 Netbook.
[07:40] <El_> During install it couldn't do the "DHCP network autoconfiguration.
[07:40] <El_> Should I configure it manually? And if so - how?
[07:41] <tsimonq2> El_: I'm about to head to bed, but if you stick around and maybe try #ubuntu, I'm sure you'll get an answer :)
[07:43] <El_> Okay. Thanks
[14:09] <LargePrime> hello.  i am looking for a dark theme for lubuntu 17.10.  desire maximum dark backgrounds please
[16:52] <En> Hi, which version to dowload for Atom 280 1,66 GHz, 1GB RAM, 160GB HD, VGA LCD screen (old ASUS Eee PC 1000HE)? Thanks
[16:59] <JohnDoe_71Rus> start 14.04.5
[17:00] <xympos> hello
[17:00] <xympos> so any news?
[17:02] <JohnDoe_71Rus> the earth is still spinning
[17:03] <xympos> oh i meant on this issue i came across
[17:03] <xympos> a couple people were attempting to help me out but we couldnt get anything to work
[17:03] <En> sorry. I get message "no root file system defined"?
[17:05] <xympos> did you manually select a partition En? because the partition needs to be ex4 not NTFS or FAT32
[17:07] <En> I tried to reformat to ex4 but it doesn't work. How could I do it from USB with full reformating of HDD?
[17:07] <xympos> if anyone can help out with this error: http://text-share.com/view/8e678dc1#L8 line 1558 . verified hash and disc integrity
[17:08] <xympos> during the installation there will be an option that says  erase disk and install lubuntu. that will do everythig for you including reformatting the hdd.
[17:09] <xympos> its not the default option so you will have to click on it
[17:10] <xympos> i would recommend using rufus 2.18p to put the iso on your flash drive . make sure you verify hashes and check disc integrity before proceeding w/ the installation
[17:10] <En> Thanks, but I am stopped before this screen !?!
[17:12] <xympos> this should be before the partitioning screen. so if you think youre stopped before the one im talking about then what is the screen right before it stops you?
[17:13] <En> I select language, then I get partitions screen, I ask for change into ex4 and then...
[17:13] <xympos> what iso is this? 14.04.5?
[17:14] <En> 14.04.3
[17:16] <tsimonq2> xympos: Actually, yes, I think I know what your problem is. Do you have internet access on the machine you're installing it on?
[17:16] <xympos> could you link me the iso ?
[17:17] <tsimonq2> En: 14.04.3 or 16.04.3? Those are drastically different, and we recommend going with 16.04.3.
[17:17] <xympos> no i dont. i did see it fail to install grub and trya network install after which ofc i dont have .
[17:18] <xympos> i was going to try bridging my laptop to it to see if network would solve it, but that "fix" should not be a requirement. not everyone has access to internet
[17:18] <tsimonq2> xympos: Actually here's what I'd recommend for you at this point... Try installing Lubuntu 16.04 LTS and upgrading.
[17:18] <xympos> sadly all my wifi cards arent oob compatible
[17:19] <tsimonq2> xympos: Thanks to the work we did last night, I figured out that 17.10 shipped without some important packages and I'm sorting that out.
[17:19] <xympos> yeah my issue isnt getting lubuntu to work, its understanding the problem
[17:19] <En> I wil try lubuntu. Thanks.
[17:19] <tsimonq2> En: You're welcome :)
[17:20] <tsimonq2> xympos: So the problem you have is on us, actually.
[17:20] <xympos> yeah i said that off the start
[17:20] <tsimonq2> heh
[17:20] <xympos> theres something wrong w the iso
[17:20] <xympos> i was like
[17:20] <xympos> how the f**** did no one test this
[17:20] <xympos> XD
[17:20] <xympos> or maybe more surprising how has no one reported it
[17:20] <tsimonq2> No but I'm kicking myself because I'm the release manager who marked these as ready >_<
[17:21] <tsimonq2> That's what I'm saying!
[17:21] <tsimonq2> :P
[17:21] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-14-04-5/
[17:21] <xympos> but then again it did work on vm which is... questionable
[17:21] <wxl> hardware testing doesn't happen as much as it should
[17:21] <tsimonq2> But yeah xympos, these packages aren't installed by default: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.artful/view/head:/ship-live-share
[17:21] <tsimonq2> wxl: Agreed
[17:21] <tsimonq2> xympos: The reason why it works in a VM is that UEFI isn't required for virtual machines
[17:22] <xympos> and even when ubuntu is stripped to lubuntu i would have thought the base was untouched
[17:22] <wxl> also uefi is relatively new while lubuntu targets old machines
[17:22] <tsimonq2> It's a little bit more complicated than that -- the way that the Lubuntu packages work, we don't pull in the packages that are recommended by the packages we already pull in, if that makes sense.
[17:22] <xympos> since ubuntu worked fine i figured lubuntu is just a modified iso at best.. not wholly recompiled but thats fine
[17:23] <tsimonq2> Not recompiled, just swapping in different blocks is how I see it :)
[17:23] <tsimonq2> Anyways
[17:23] <tsimonq2> Try the 16.04 ISO
[17:23] <wxl> o
[17:23] <wxl> oops
[17:24] <xympos> yeah my buddy tld me that too
[17:24] <xympos> and i said
[17:25] <xympos> yeah why dont i just install win 10 1503 and upgrade to 1709 through windows updates
[17:25] <xympos> boooo :C i hate updating that much
[17:25] <xympos> ill just wait till a rerelease of an iso
[17:26] <xympos> "found bug" is now crossed off my bucket list
[17:26] <tsimonq2> xympos: Fwiw once you install 16.04 you can either stay with it and get support until 2019, or it's just one upgrade that takes maybe an hour or two and you're on 17.10.
[17:26] <tsimonq2> XD
[17:28] <xympos> the reason i dont want upgrades is tbh the registry issues that come with them in windows. ofc this isnt windows and im not even sure if linux has similar registries and whatnot
[17:28] <xympos> and im sure the upgrade will take like 15 mins at most
[17:28] <xympos> my hardware isnt that old`
[17:29] <xympos> just wanted to try lubuntu thats all :O
[17:29] <tsimonq2> I've been using Linux for a solid 3 years and updates have *never* been as horrible as Windows
[17:29] <tsimonq2> wxl has been using it for longer and I think he can agree
[17:29] <tsimonq2> But yeah, sorry that you had to be the one to come across this bug :/
[17:30] <tsimonq2> But we also need more people on our QA team if you're interested :P
[17:30] <xympos> ill save the hash and check lubuntu to see when an new one is posted and ill know all is well
[17:30] <xympos> well i mean~
[17:30] <tsimonq2> Sure, I hope it's possible
[17:30] <xympos> do i get official recognition :O
[17:30] <xympos> like on lubuntu site :O
[17:30] <xympos> aka sometin to slap on mah resume :)
[17:30] <xympos> buahahha
[17:31] <xympos> tbh i thought there were pleanty of people to help out but if there isnt i wouldnt mind helping
[17:32] <tsimonq2> Yeah that's been our problem lately
[17:32] <xympos> this could be a good experience for linux+ cert. lel XD
[17:33] <tsimonq2> People haven't been around in the Lubuntu community (where we can see) testing edge cases (which, tbh, for Lubuntu, UEFI *is* an edge case) and then people yell at us when things break
[17:33] <tsimonq2> XD
[17:34] <xympos> i do have one other question : what can you tell me about the firefox that comes w linux? any news of firefox quantum going to it too or is the one made for linux a seperate build?
[17:34] <xympos> like maybe it doesnt get updated often for stability?
[17:34] <tsimonq2> New release of Firefox go to all supported releases of Ubuntu quickly
[17:35] <tsimonq2> While I don't really agree with that 100%, that's what happens
[17:35] <tsimonq2> (usually within 72 hours although that varies)
[17:35] <xympos> oh that is quick
[17:35] <tsimonq2> For example right now Quantum is in Ubuntu
[17:35] <tsimonq2> (i.e. Lubuntu)
[17:35] <xympos> not in the iso but availble for update right
[17:37] <tsimonq2> RIght
[17:37] <xympos> because ubuntu doesnt update their image regularly - only like major releases? or is there a repository somewhere with an updated image? kind of like parted magic does - just updates every dependency whenever has a changelog and litterly new iso every month (been slower recently)
[17:37] <tsimonq2> Except new LTS point releases get it
[17:38] <tsimonq2> Riiight, well with LTS we still have daily builds but you're kinda meant to install it and update when packages are available to update to :)
[17:38] <xympos> that "riiiight"
[17:38] <xympos> V_V
[17:39] <xympos> if lubuntu is an official flavor does cononical "own" lubuntu
[17:40] <tsimonq2> They own the trademark but employees don't work on it.
[17:40] <xympos> are you an employee or a volunteer?
[17:40] <tsimonq2> Volunteer
[17:42] <xympos> cool
[17:42] <xympos> im prbably gona try a networked install in a few mins here but i have to clean up , apraisal man coming over
[17:42] <tsimonq2> xympos: Yeah but if you'd like to help us with QA before the releases, I'd recommend subscribing to lubuntu-devel here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-devel and sticking around in #lubuntu-devel, whether it be with your current IRC setup, Telegram, or Matrix
[17:42] <tsimonq2> Sure
[17:43] <tsimonq2> Aaaaaaaaaactually, that might work...
[17:44] <xympos> yeah thats whyi was gon try it
[17:44] <xympos> still should have packages in the iso though
[17:45] <tsimonq2> Right
[17:53] <wxl> true story http://www.stickycomics.com/wp-content/uploads/update_for_your_computer.jpg
[17:53] <tsimonq2> Right
[17:53] <tsimonq2> :P
[17:54] <wxl> tl;dr don't base decisions about linux on your experience with another OS
[19:51] <mrchuckderp> After installing Lubuntu alongside Windows 7, I get this when I try to boot back into Windows.
[19:51] <mrchuckderp> error: unknown filesystem
[19:51] <mrchuckderp> entering rescue mode...
[19:51] <mrchuckderp> grub rescue>
[19:51] <wxl> mrchuckderp: did you check the hashes?
[19:51] <tsimonq2> wxl: shush he did
[19:51] <wxl> :)
[19:51] <tsimonq2> He's that friendly guy from yesterday :)
[19:51] <mrchuckderp> Hey-o
[19:51] <tsimonq2> mrchuckderp: Can you boot into Lubuntu?
[19:51] <mrchuckderp> yes
[19:52] <tsimonq2> Do you have internet access there?
[19:52] <mrchuckderp> Kind of
[19:52] <tsimonq2> How so? :)
[19:52] <mrchuckderp> I am in the installer lubuntu because the original one still doesn't have internet and I have been busy all day so didn't have time to look into it much
[19:52] <mrchuckderp> I'm on Pidgin
[19:53] <mrchuckderp> I at least need to boot into windows ONCE because then my father is very experienced in cmd and if we can boot once we can fix it forever lol
[19:53] <mrchuckderp> Cus he looked at the grub rescue commands and was so confused
[19:54] <mrchuckderp> Also what are hashes? I've heard of them but never really learned what they were
[19:55] <tsimonq2> wxl is the hashes guy ;)
[19:55] <mrchuckderp> mmk :-D
[19:56] <tsimonq2> OH
[19:56] <tsimonq2> mrchuckderp: here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[19:57] <mrchuckderp> OK
[19:57] <tsimonq2> That might help you quite a bit
[19:57] <mrchuckderp> ok
[19:58] <mrchuckderp> Oh yeah I forgot to ask
[19:58] <mrchuckderp> Is there a way to undo exactly what boot-repair did basically?
[19:58] <mrchuckderp> like a direct undo
[19:59] <tsimonq2> Not really, why?
[19:59] <mrchuckderp> mk
[19:59] <mrchuckderp> well I would just like to restart my lubuntu installation or something
[20:00] <tsimonq2> mrchuckderp: If you go to that link it gives you instructions to do what you're talking about ;)
[20:00] <mrchuckderp> OK thanks again
[20:00] <tsimonq2> np :)
[20:02] <mrchuckderp> Another sad thing is that last time something wrong with this computer it was me doing basically the same thing but with a big chunk of space. lol it was a 5TB external hard drive and I was planning on making a small partition (like 100GB) for installing a ubuntu or red hat or something on it and then it messed up the entire thing and so I lost all the data...
[20:02] <mrchuckderp> But I fixed it
[20:02] <mrchuckderp> :D
[20:03] <mrchuckderp> but there wasn't much on it anyway so that's good
[20:03] <mrchuckderp> One other problem that happened
[20:03] <tsimonq2> mrchuckderp: The hard thing about doing this sort of support over IRC (at least for me) is that I could bang this out in 30 seconds or a minute but it's really hard to describe the steps that I go through to fix the thing sometimes :/
[20:04] <mrchuckderp> Yeah I understand. It's sad really
[20:04] <mrchuckderp> I booted up windows after doing something (I don't remember) and then it just said "error loading operating system BootMGR is missing ctrl + alt + del to restart" and that was it
[20:04] <mrchuckderp> you couldn't do anything
[20:06] <mrchuckderp> that was it and so we had to boot into 7 with a USB (this pc was actually win10 at the time) and we had to take the important stuff off and move it to the thumb drive. All in terminal, no graphics to see what we were moving
[20:06] <mrchuckderp> k I'm done venting lol
[20:07] <mrchuckderp> oo gotta go. good talking to you and thanks for the link!
[20:07] <tsimonq2> yw, cya :)