/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2017/11/19/#ubuntu-discuss.txt

lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:43
lotuspsychjedead calm this morning06:24
lotuspsychjehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/11/ambiance-theme-download-ubuntu06:25
lotuspsychje!info glances06:32
ubot5glances (source: glances): Curses-based monitoring tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.10-2 (artful), package size 177 kB, installed size 1118 kB06:32
lotuspsychjelets try that06:32
ducassehi lotuspsychje06:35
lotuspsychjehey ducasse06:36
lotuspsychjecool toy06:36
lotuspsychjehttps://nicolargo.github.io/glances/06:37
lotuspsychjehey EriC^^06:44
EriC^^hey lotuspsychje06:45
lotuspsychjedead in main :p06:45
EriC^^yeah06:45
oerheksmorning :-)06:46
EriC^^morning oerheks :)06:46
ducasse\o oerheks, EriC^^06:47
lotuspsychjehey oerheks06:47
lotuspsychjehttps://news.bitcoin.com/06:47
EriC^^hey ducasse o/06:47
lotuspsychjeATM support bitcoin lol06:48
lotuspsychjenext: hackers grab bitcoins for free & cash in an atm machine :p06:49
* oerheks buys 10 laptops @ lotus webshop with bitcoins06:50
lotuspsychjehere i come tahiti06:50
lotuspsychjelolll06:50
lotuspsychjeoerheks: gonna create newsletter today, stay tuned :p06:50
lotuspsychjeend of year promotion06:51
ducassemassive sale? ;)06:55
oerhekspromocode : iloveoerheks +20%06:57
ducasse...so it gets more expensive with that code? :)06:58
oerheksjups, but you might win a box of lotus-cookies, check your mail!07:02
* oerheks rolls over the floor under the desk with 3x hd monitors laughing07:03
oerheksonly one monitor is not connected yet, dedicated to rasp-pi207:03
oerhekshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/pev1uxu1gwp21n5/2017desk3hd.JPG?dl=007:09
ducassed'aww, is that drabber's basket under the desk? at his master's feet :)07:12
oerheksYes, no draft, free view, he is smart07:13
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:25
ducassehi BluesKaj11:30
ducassewb, you haven't missed much!11:30
BluesKajHi ducasse, yeah yesterday was quiet for a saturday11:31
ducasse4 questions in 7+ hours...11:38
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj11:54
BluesKajhey lotuspsychje11:55
pauljwhi everyone12:31
BluesKaj'Morning pauljw12:32
pauljwhey BluesKaj :)12:33
BluesKajwe have some snow here, just enough to make the ground white, but it's supposed to rain so everything will be brown again12:35
pauljwnice, love snow. hate the mess...12:37
immuhi BluesKaj EriC^^18:38
BluesKajhi immu18:40
immuwhy is everyone quiet and then suddently they wake up and chatter and go silent again18:42
daftykinswe all dip in and out getting on with our lives i guess18:43
pauljw:)18:48
daftykinsinstead of sitting around bored like yesterday, i spent the day clearing out some drawers in my office, i am to minimise all my possessions yet again ahead of the house being finished :D18:49
daftykinsfeels great to cut down18:49
immuoke18:53
EriC^^hey immu what's up?19:02
immuhey just chilling19:02
EriC^^nice19:02
EriC^^i was making some pancakes *drool*19:02
daftykins:D19:02
EriC^^hey daftykins :)19:02
daftykins:D greetings19:03
daftykinsi'm thinking of bringing down my spare old core 2 quad PC and updating the OS on it, hmm19:03
EriC^^that sounds like fun19:05
daftykinsit's annoying being without my office, so having to put PCs on the floor in the lounge and either run them on the TV or on monitors on the floor19:06
immudaftykins, your housework still going on?19:07
immugoodnite all19:26
TJ-how the heck could the home directory ecryptfs wrapper get clobbered during a password change? that's really worrying19:34
EriC^^clobbered?19:41
TJ- pizzaburger's wrapped passphrase won't unwrap with either old or new passwords19:43
TJ-so have to assume somehow the GUI tools used a different password to the one he set for the user19:43
daftykins:S19:46
daftykinsforeign user with keyboard locale configuration quirks?19:47
daftykinsmay've typed something different inadvertently19:47
TJ-As I said earlier, I recall seeing this alot, including experiencing it myself, several times around 14.04 but not recently19:47
TJ-no, because the user's new password logged in correctly19:47
TJ-in my case regular en_GB all through and no variable characters19:48
daftykinsoic19:48
TJ-Just hoping he's followed the instructions exactly for regenerated the .ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase to regain access19:48
EriC^^that's odd19:49
EriC^^he's using 17.10?19:50
daftykinsi've put my old nvidia 560Ti, the BIOS killing one, into this spare core 2 duo PC - fired up 14.04 fine :)19:50
daftykinsbut will it last...19:50
TJ-I did spend some time back aroudn 14.04 trying to figure out what was going on but never got to the bottom of it. It only happens when changing the user's password from the GUI, and only rarely19:50
TJ-I got lost in a spaghetti of Gnome code and gave up!19:50
daftykins:D19:51
TJ-this is why I despite these password dialogs that default to hiding what you're typing even from you!19:51
TJ-thankfully a lot now offer the option to unhide it19:52
TJ-terrible anti-user pattern that is though19:52
daftykins:)19:57
TJ-he's definitely doing something wrong; the new wrapped-passphrase won't unwrap either.20:10
TJ-I think I've recalled what the bug is! dredging my memory20:58
TJ-I *think* the Gnome seahorse  "Passwords and Certificates" application doesn't change it's master password to the new user's password, and therefore the unwrap password cannot be got to20:59
TJ-Do we have anyone on 17.10 that can "pastebinit <( keyctl show )" for me as their regular user22:18

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