[05:43] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> dead calm this morning
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/11/ambiance-theme-download-ubuntu
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> !info glances
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> lets try that
[06:35] <ducasse> hi lotuspsychje
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> cool toy
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> https://nicolargo.github.io/glances/
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[06:45] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> dead in main :p
[06:45] <EriC^^> yeah
[06:46] <oerheks> morning :-)
[06:46] <EriC^^> morning oerheks :)
[06:47] <ducasse> \o oerheks, EriC^^
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> hey oerheks
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> https://news.bitcoin.com/
[06:47] <EriC^^> hey ducasse o/
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> ATM support bitcoin lol
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> next: hackers grab bitcoins for free & cash in an atm machine :p
[06:50]  * oerheks buys 10 laptops @ lotus webshop with bitcoins
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> here i come tahiti
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> lolll
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: gonna create newsletter today, stay tuned :p
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> end of year promotion
[06:55] <ducasse> massive sale? ;)
[06:57] <oerheks> promocode : iloveoerheks +20%
[06:58] <ducasse> ...so it gets more expensive with that code? :)
[07:02] <oerheks> jups, but you might win a box of lotus-cookies, check your mail!
[07:03]  * oerheks rolls over the floor under the desk with 3x hd monitors laughing
[07:03] <oerheks> only one monitor is not connected yet, dedicated to rasp-pi2
[07:09] <oerheks> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pev1uxu1gwp21n5/2017desk3hd.JPG?dl=0
[07:12] <ducasse> d'aww, is that drabber's basket under the desk? at his master's feet :)
[07:13] <oerheks> Yes, no draft, free view, he is smart
[11:25] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:30] <ducasse> hi BluesKaj
[11:30] <ducasse> wb, you haven't missed much!
[11:31] <BluesKaj> Hi ducasse, yeah yesterday was quiet for a saturday
[11:38] <ducasse> 4 questions in 7+ hours...
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[11:55] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[12:31] <pauljw> hi everyone
[12:32] <BluesKaj> 'Morning pauljw
[12:33] <pauljw> hey BluesKaj :)
[12:35] <BluesKaj> we have some snow here, just enough to make the ground white, but it's supposed to rain so everything will be brown again
[12:37] <pauljw> nice, love snow. hate the mess...
[18:38] <immu> hi BluesKaj EriC^^
[18:40] <BluesKaj> hi immu
[18:42] <immu> why is everyone quiet and then suddently they wake up and chatter and go silent again
[18:43] <daftykins> we all dip in and out getting on with our lives i guess
[18:48] <pauljw> :)
[18:49] <daftykins> instead of sitting around bored like yesterday, i spent the day clearing out some drawers in my office, i am to minimise all my possessions yet again ahead of the house being finished :D
[18:49] <daftykins> feels great to cut down
[18:53] <immu> oke
[19:02] <EriC^^> hey immu what's up?
[19:02] <immu> hey just chilling
[19:02] <EriC^^> nice
[19:02] <EriC^^> i was making some pancakes *drool*
[19:02] <daftykins> :D
[19:02] <EriC^^> hey daftykins :)
[19:03] <daftykins> :D greetings
[19:03] <daftykins> i'm thinking of bringing down my spare old core 2 quad PC and updating the OS on it, hmm
[19:05] <EriC^^> that sounds like fun
[19:06] <daftykins> it's annoying being without my office, so having to put PCs on the floor in the lounge and either run them on the TV or on monitors on the floor
[19:07] <immu> daftykins, your housework still going on?
[19:26] <immu> goodnite all
[19:34] <TJ-> how the heck could the home directory ecryptfs wrapper get clobbered during a password change? that's really worrying
[19:41] <EriC^^> clobbered?
[19:43] <TJ->  pizzaburger's wrapped passphrase won't unwrap with either old or new passwords
[19:43] <TJ-> so have to assume somehow the GUI tools used a different password to the one he set for the user
[19:46] <daftykins> :S
[19:47] <daftykins> foreign user with keyboard locale configuration quirks?
[19:47] <daftykins> may've typed something different inadvertently
[19:47] <TJ-> As I said earlier, I recall seeing this alot, including experiencing it myself, several times around 14.04 but not recently
[19:47] <TJ-> no, because the user's new password logged in correctly
[19:48] <TJ-> in my case regular en_GB all through and no variable characters
[19:48] <daftykins> oic
[19:48] <TJ-> Just hoping he's followed the instructions exactly for regenerated the .ecryptfs/wrapped-passphrase to regain access
[19:49] <EriC^^> that's odd
[19:50] <EriC^^> he's using 17.10?
[19:50] <daftykins> i've put my old nvidia 560Ti, the BIOS killing one, into this spare core 2 duo PC - fired up 14.04 fine :)
[19:50] <daftykins> but will it last...
[19:50] <TJ-> I did spend some time back aroudn 14.04 trying to figure out what was going on but never got to the bottom of it. It only happens when changing the user's password from the GUI, and only rarely
[19:50] <TJ-> I got lost in a spaghetti of Gnome code and gave up!
[19:51] <daftykins> :D
[19:51] <TJ-> this is why I despite these password dialogs that default to hiding what you're typing even from you!
[19:52] <TJ-> thankfully a lot now offer the option to unhide it
[19:52] <TJ-> terrible anti-user pattern that is though
[19:57] <daftykins> :)
[20:10] <TJ-> he's definitely doing something wrong; the new wrapped-passphrase won't unwrap either.
[20:58] <TJ-> I think I've recalled what the bug is! dredging my memory
[20:59] <TJ-> I *think* the Gnome seahorse  "Passwords and Certificates" application doesn't change it's master password to the new user's password, and therefore the unwrap password cannot be got to
[22:18] <TJ-> Do we have anyone on 17.10 that can "pastebinit <( keyctl show )" for me as their regular user