| ochosi | Unit193: yup | 00:00 |
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| flocculant | bluesabre: were you expecting iso to have both gnome- and mate- stuff at the moment? | 08:36 |
| knome | http://www.strawpoll.me/14263444/r | 11:38 |
| knome | that was the poll created by the person on the ML | 11:39 |
| knome | not a big group of respondents, but very animous | 11:39 |
| knome | bbl | 11:39 |
| ochosi | knome: thats sorta what i would have expected... can of worms and cant get it right | 12:52 |
| flocculant | :) | 12:56 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: should just be gnome atm | 14:08 |
| bluesabre | until I do another upload | 14:09 |
| bluesabre | Suppose I can go ahead and do that and we can work on packaging improvements with flexiondotorg as we go forward :) | 14:15 |
| flocculant | :) | 14:15 |
| flocculant | today the iso has evince, file-roller and gnome-calc | 14:15 |
| flocculant | plus the 3 new ones obviously :) | 14:15 |
| flocculant | anyway - thought I'd let you know | 14:16 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Don't forget at-spi-core to reco? | 14:17 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: hm? | 14:20 |
| bluesabre | brb | 14:20 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: didn't expect the 3 new ones to be there | 14:20 |
| flocculant | heh - bonus then :p | 14:28 |
| jbicha | bluesabre: yeah, I think the iso builds pull from the seeds even if the metapackage hasn't been uploaded yet | 14:37 |
| flocculant | ochosi: just a thought - but power plugin for on AC - why not just use the standard AC symbol? | 14:46 |
| bluesabre | jbicha: aha, that explains that then :) | 14:56 |
| bluesabre | flocculant, just did the necessary uploads... should land soon and the next iso should just have the mate apps and associated config updates | 15:20 |
| bluesabre | flocculant, so the next build would be a good time to spot check for any weirdness with keyboard shortcuts, archives, and PDF docs | 15:21 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: what was the question with at-spi-core? | 15:22 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: ack that - will have a look tomorrow evening then | 15:25 |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: [trunk] r649 Release 18.04.1 (by Sean Davis) | 15:49 | |
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| bluesabre | Unit193: now that we have https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce/commit/d9f3446ca529066e9390ca3bcf82830ebf76c398, want to poke the packaging for [xubuntu-dev] elementary-xfce: Split packaging for distribution improvements: TODO | 16:20 |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-artwork:: [shimmer-themes-debian] r19 Sort install, add gnome-shell and plank (by Sean Davis) | 17:05 | |
| flexiondotorg | bluesabre Just let me know what you need regarding packaging 😀 | 18:42 |
| flexiondotorg | So far all MATE packaging goes to Debian and sync to Ubuntu. Should be possible to retain that. | 18:42 |
| bluesabre | flexiondotorg: definitely, will have some suggestions sometime early this week | 18:51 |
| ochosi | flocculant: first of all, there is no standard AC symbol (i only created one for our icon theme) and secondly, upower does not tell you that a system is a desktop. i have to "guess" that based on: 1) there is no battery, 2) there is no lid | 20:02 |
| flocculant | ochosi: beg to differ - have a look on the back of any of your mains electrical things - living roon, bedroom, kitchen, garage - do they not have ~ there saying the voltage and frequency? | 20:05 |
| flocculant | pretty much standard AC symbol | 20:05 |
| flocculant | but if you can't get that info from something - then I guess its a moot point | 20:06 |
| flocculant | s/not have a ~ | 20:06 |
| ochosi | ok, maybe there was a misunderstanding | 20:06 |
| flocculant | yea :) | 20:06 |
| ochosi | there is no "ac-adapter" icon in the freedesktop.org icon naming spec | 20:06 |
| ochosi | and nothing like that in gnome's adwaita icon theme | 20:07 |
| ochosi | i have no idea what gnome-shell does on a desktop system | 20:07 |
| flocculant | right - that I can believe - though odd why it's not there | 20:07 |
| ochosi | maybe it shows no icon at all | 20:07 |
| ochosi | but anyhow, that's only the one part | 20:07 |
| ochosi | the second part is that the middleware that we're relying on (UPower), does not tell you that a system is a desktop or laptop | 20:07 |
| flocculant | ochosi: I can boot ubuntu on hardware | 20:07 |
| flocculant | yup | 20:08 |
| ochosi | so you have to guess based on some properties | 20:08 |
| ochosi | and i figured those two would be fairly reliable | 20:08 |
| flocculant | yea - pretty much would agree | 20:08 |
| ochosi | "back in the day" of xfpm 1.4 we had our own icon name spec | 20:11 |
| ochosi | xfpm-battery-090.png etc | 20:12 |
| ochosi | annoying to maintain and almost no icon theme supporting it | 20:12 |
| ochosi | (but it used to be the same with gpm-battery-090.png etc) | 20:12 |
| ochosi | now that we switched to upower icon names directly this means all icon themes will work | 20:12 |
| ochosi | but we also "inherit" this ac-adapter thing | 20:12 |
| ochosi | so if you could boot to ubuntu from hw (or even vm, cause that also should report as desktop system) that would help | 20:13 |
| flocculant | booting vm then | 20:14 |
| ochosi | thanks a bunch | 20:14 |
| flocculant | np | 20:15 |
| ochosi | oh wait, there *is* an ac-adapter icon | 20:16 |
| ochosi | at least in adwaita | 20:16 |
| ochosi | but it's a battery symbol with a flash inside | 20:16 |
| ochosi | hmpf | 20:16 |
| knome | lol | 20:16 |
| knome | not that it means it's used...? | 20:16 |
| ochosi | yeah, it doesn't mean that | 20:17 |
| ochosi | i'll have to check gpm's sourcecode i gues... | 20:17 |
| flocculant | ochosi: doesn't appear to be something I can turn on to check | 20:19 |
| ochosi | lol https://github.com/GNOME/gnome-shell/blob/master/js/ui/status/power.js#L116 | 20:20 |
| knome | yep | 20:20 |
| ochosi | bastards just use a random other icon | 20:20 |
| knome | ;) | 20:20 |
| ochosi | even though they also maintain upower.. | 20:20 |
| knome | at least you know how they handle the "no battery" situation now... | 20:20 |
| ochosi | to be frank that is not a meaningful icon | 20:21 |
| ochosi | http://i.imgur.com/FXVFF7n.png | 20:21 |
| ochosi | i mean pff | 20:21 |
| knome | hah | 20:21 |
| knome | that's boo | 20:21 |
| ochosi | if we put that in the panel, we better position it correctly, or it'll be spectacularly misleading | 20:21 |
| knome | yes | 20:22 |
| knome | please no | 20:22 |
| knome | not that | 20:22 |
| knome | i use it for xfce4-session-logout | 20:22 |
| knome | because obvious reasons... | 20:22 |
| ochosi | so i think i'll have to draw and include a proper ac-adapter icon for elementary-xfce and include/ship it with xfpm | 20:22 |
| ochosi | or you could draw it knome while i write the "detect desktop system" code..? | 20:22 |
| knome | pffft | 20:22 |
| knome | i'm doing xfce things now | 20:23 |
| flocculant | flash or ~ makes more sense than a power button icon ... | 20:23 |
| knome | i have that plug with flash now | 20:23 |
| knome | that's good. | 20:23 |
| ochosi | yeah - i drew that back in the day | 20:24 |
| ochosi | i guess i can try to make a symbolic version of it for now | 20:24 |
| flocculant | what's a symbolic version of an ac symbol - a power station :p | 20:38 |
| ochosi | a cable + plug with a flash on it? | 20:41 |
| flocculant | makes sense | 20:41 |
| flocculant | lot to fit in though | 20:42 |
| flocculant | anyway - happy to test whatever you want whenever you want | 20:43 |
| flocculant | night peeps | 20:43 |
| ochosi | flocculant: gone already? | 20:58 |
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