[05:55] good morning to all [05:57] firefox 57 is defenatly slower the previous [06:06] its like those dots keep loading [06:07] and hangs at TLS handshakes etc [06:45] !ping [06:45] pong! [06:53] at least ducasse will wakeup soon lol [07:01] lotuspsychje: i'm awake :) good morning, all [07:03] hey hey ducasse [07:09] Good morning [07:12] hey lordievader [07:12] hey EriC^^ [07:13] Hey lotuspsychje [07:13] How are you doing? [07:13] great here [07:13] another week of work [07:13] lordievader: you tested FF 57 speed? [07:14] heya lotuspsychje [07:14] hey lordievader [07:14] lotuspsychje: Unpacked the tar, haven't really played with it yet. [07:14] lotuspsychje: You? [07:15] Hey EriC^^ [07:15] How are you? [07:15] good thanks you? [07:15] Doing good here, waking up :) [07:16] lordievader: feeling bit slow on my side [07:16] maybe it's your internet lotuspsychje [07:16] feels more responsive, quick to load for me [07:16] Hmm, it is supposed to be much quicker. [07:17] not sure why [07:17] those blue dots keep going back n forth [07:17] and TLS handshakes lag [07:17] must be isp stuff [07:17] the app itself feels quicker [07:17] Yeah, that doesn't really sound like Firefox's fault. [07:18] Or at least, I don't think FF implemented their own SSL 😝 [07:18] 56 did fine & fast on me? [07:18] \o lordievader, EriC^^ [07:18] hey ducasse o/ [07:18] swap: 0 and on ssd? [07:18] Hey ducasse [07:18] ducasse: how are you? [07:19] good, EriC^^ - and you? [07:19] ubuntu removed that mobile browser thing eh? [07:20] ducasse: good thanks [07:20] oh it's still there, lotuspsychje try "browser" [07:20] webbrowser-app launches it from the terminal [07:22] hmm they improved it, it now has tabs at the top [07:22] goes fast aswell [07:25] FF 57 seems quite fast to me. About as quick as Chrome. [07:26] hmmz [07:26] lordievader: no dots wiggle at you side? [07:27] For a little bit. But then the page shows. [07:28] i'm horrible at estimating these things, but 57 feels faster than 56 to me [07:28] real weird [07:29] ill test on few other systems [07:30] I haven't run FF for ages. Certainly not on fast machine. So, me saying it is alot faster than previous versions... should be taken with a stone of salt. [07:31] kk [07:33] i run ff on my desktop all the time, and it's a decently fast machine [07:35] i had no issues until now [07:37] ill try a new profile or guest account later [07:37] or fresh system [07:38] Did you try FF56 or Chrome on the same machine> [07:38] ? [07:38] yep lightning fast all other browsers [07:39] Hmm, that is odd. [07:39] bbl breakfast [07:40] lotuspsychje: which cpu is this again? [11:42] Hi folks [13:31] Hi everyone [13:32] hi pauljw :) [13:32] how's it going? [13:32] all good here, you? [13:32] good thanks [13:32] starting to rain here [13:33] ah, rain is good. :) [13:35] mornin' BluesKaj :) [13:35] pauljw: yeah :) [13:39] "Morning pauljw ...Hey EriC^^ [13:40] hey BluesKaj === Guest77156 is now known as IdleOne === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [15:40] gotta run, bbl... [18:01] Free Cheesecake 4 ALL !!! [18:02] oerheks: Great thought ... A welcome change from CC cookies :) [18:07] :) [18:07] hi oerheks [18:07] Bashing-om, [18:08] immu: :) [18:09] whats up\ [18:42] good evening guys [18:43] ducasse: CPU: Dual core AMD C-60 APU with Radeon HD Graphics [18:46] lotuspsychje: I run a dual core Athlon system . no issues with FF on 3rd day . [18:47] Bashing-om: speed double or not? [18:48] i dont have real issues, but speed is bit dissapointing [18:49] lotuspsychje: Well .. As I am testing FF from chromium prior .. FF is just a tad bit faster than chromium . [18:49] kk [19:02] https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/11/20/firefox-private-browsing-vs-chrome-incognito/ [19:12] hey guys [19:12] what's cooking? [19:12] hey EriC^^ [19:13] lotuspsychje: did you try running ff from a terminal? [19:13] EriC^^: Meat loaf :) [19:13] Bashing-om: yum [19:13] EriC^^: lets try [19:14] ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment. [19:15] let me try it here to compare [19:15] no attention stuff [19:16] lotuspsychje: try echo $force_s3tc_enable [19:17] still same error [19:19] lotuspsychje: seems the error has to do with graphics stuff [19:20] so probably unrelated, what exactly is happening, after you press enter for a website it takes a long time during making TLS handshake? [19:20] EriC^^: that tab blue dot keeps going back n forth loading page [19:21] EriC^^: then i can follow loading text at bottom, as i have time to read it :p [19:22] hi TJ- [19:24] morning :) [19:25] found a really humorous man-page Description earlier whilst looking for a file-seeking tool: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/diskseekd.1.html [19:30] lotuspsychje: ruled out a bottleneck in network ? ' traceroute ' . [19:32] Bashing-om: all other FF versions ran fine [19:32] lotuspsychje: was a thought . [19:32] TJ-: "simulates Messy Dos' drive [19:33] cleaning effect" >> Thus I strongly advise you to use the original texinfo doc. ! .. Then why not just give the original .. huh ? [19:33] yeah... and the tongue-in-cheek "Several people have noticed that Linux has a bad tendency of killing floppy drives" :) [19:35] !info refind [19:35] refind (source: refind): boot manager for EFI-based computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.4-1 (artful), package size 2877 kB, installed size 4629 kB (Only available for amd64; arm64; i386) [19:37] !info refind xenial [19:37] Package refind does not exist in xenial [19:39] http://www.speed-battle.com/speedtest_e.php [19:39] what you guys score on FF 57 here? [19:39] 82.22 lol wth.. [19:41] lotuspsychje: " 587.75 " ?? [19:41] jesus [19:44] lotuspsychje: want I shoul run it against chormium ? [19:44] 907.91 on GoogleChrome [19:45] 1254.16 on Firefox57 [19:46] Bashing-om: sure [19:46] lotuspsychje: chromium " 457.45 " . as overall score . [19:47] lotuspsychje: could you remind me about that link tomorrow? [19:47] Bashing-om, why is the score so low compared to mine [19:47] lordievader: sure [19:48] maybe its cpu related now? [19:48] intel i3 and higher perform better? [19:48] Cool, thanks. [19:49] firefox is higher but its always hung up in getting the data [19:49] immu: old hardware ?? lotuspsychje:: how about : http://ipv6-test.com/ <- checks your IPv6 and IPv4 connectivity and speed. Diagnose connection problems, [19:49] Bashing-om: lets c [19:50] Bashing-om: ipv6 not supported, score 4/20 [19:52] lotuspsychje: My FF57 3/20 ! [19:52] lol [19:53] ok lemme go test guest FF [19:53] holdon [19:53] ipv6 is supported but not enabled for me [19:53] or others [19:57] ok guest account is a little faster [19:58] so it must be my profile [19:58] lotuspsychje: interesting . [19:59] good nite [20:00] Bashing-om: browser test was 240 there [20:01] lotuspsychje: I still find it hard to believe my old hardware is faster than yours . [20:04] Bashing-om: well im over wifi here, with used profile and ssd + 2 gig ram [20:05] lotuspsychje: More ram that I have will make the difference :) [20:05] Bashing-om: your on cable? [20:07] the weird thing is, FF 56 worked bloody fast over wifi still [20:09] lotuspsychje: Yes in cable : Speed 47.7 Mbit/s . [20:16] lotuspsychje: How bad is it going to break things to purge ( and /home too ) FF and RE-install ? [20:18] I get 426 on my phone. [20:19] cool lordievader [20:20] Bashing-om: got cable in now, going faster [20:20] * lordievader wonders what his workstation gets [20:28] nite nite guys [20:38] Gotta run an errand ... back soonest . [21:33] and back ,, not missed much :) === pauljw1604 is now known as pauljw