[13:48] didn't know phones could get rabies [14:10] THey can, and they need vaccinations [14:18] Also: morning! [15:32] Gotta love form letters from recruiters: [15:32] "Sr. Phyton Developer" [15:32] "We have an Opening on " Sr. Phyton Developer " longterm position location at Atlanta, GA location." [15:32] Role: Sr. Phyton Developer [15:32] Location: Novi,MI [15:32] Honestly I have NFC what this is. [15:48] <_stink_> it's a new subatomic particle [15:50] oooh, I <3 pyhsics [15:53] <_stink_> lulz [16:46] The posting is also rather precious [16:46] "Beign able to mapping data" [16:46] "calculations finance area" [16:46] And my favorite: [16:46] "Build something kind of mapping and visulization, reporting tool like cognos, Map Engine. " [16:47] Unsure if position or word salad. [16:49] indians subcontracting back to USA [16:52] Yeah [18:10] recommendations for a good task tracker for a volunteer group (they're planning a big conference)? [18:12] trello? [18:14] yea, trello is a basic easy for all kind of start [18:17] Yeah, I'd go with Trello [18:17] If you have a high bias toward OSS with hosting I'd go with Taiga.io [18:17] but it's not as intuitive as Trello [18:18] coolio, thanks all [18:18] * greg-g looks into Taiga.io [18:21] Taiga is very developer-oriented though. Things are "user stories" and have points [18:22] * greg-g nods [18:22] sounds ghastly. [18:23] Nah, it's not that bad. [18:23] jrwren: come on, don't you do weekly task estimation with your team using playing cards? [18:24] They use the pub suds methodology [18:24] Go to the pub, get some beer, put the tasks on a dart board, and throw darts. ;) [18:25] greg-g: no, and I'd be looking for new work if I did. [18:25] greg-g: scrum is terrible. [18:25] Scrum is really optimistic [18:25] is it? [18:25] planning two weeks in advance can be tricky [18:26] and invariably it makes people feel terrible when they don't meet their optimism two weeks before [18:26] tricky? I'd say for many teams it can be impossible. [18:26] its also very wasteful. [18:26] Yeah [18:27] I understand why folks graviate towards it but Scrum always feels grafted on and unnatural [18:27] i don't understand other than believing the sales folks [18:28] am tip: never believe the sales folks. [18:28] isn't it 1:30 over there? [18:28] yeah [18:28] :P [18:29] Honestly the biggest issuw with any of these issue tracking boards is getting folks to use it [18:30] (he says about the Trello board that about half of the MUG board uses) [18:30] * cmaloney coughs [20:34] cmaloney: Approx. 4 people use the copy of your board I made for GRPUG [20:34] Nope, only 3 [21:50] ? [21:50] The Trello board? [21:51] Yeah [21:51] I vopied the mug board for grpug [21:52] Oh for the topics? [21:52] Or just the layout? [22:47] layout [22:47] Then cut out a couple of columns [22:48] Having to add people to Trello is the biggest hurdle