[13:48] <mrgoodcat> didn't know phones could get rabies
[14:10] <cmaloney> THey can, and they need vaccinations
[14:18] <cmaloney> Also: morning!
[15:32] <cmaloney> Gotta love form letters from recruiters:
[15:32] <cmaloney> "Sr. Phyton Developer"
[15:32] <cmaloney> "We have an Opening on " Sr. Phyton Developer " longterm position location at Atlanta, GA location."
[15:32] <cmaloney> Role: Sr. Phyton Developer
[15:32] <cmaloney> Location: Novi,MI
[15:32] <cmaloney> Honestly I have NFC what this is.
[15:48] <_stink_> it's a new subatomic particle
[15:50] <rick_h> oooh, I <3 pyhsics
[15:53] <_stink_> lulz
[16:46] <cmaloney> The posting is also rather precious
[16:46] <cmaloney> "Beign able to mapping data"
[16:46] <cmaloney> "calculations finance area"
[16:46] <cmaloney> And my favorite:
[16:46] <cmaloney> "Build something kind of mapping and visulization, reporting tool like cognos, Map Engine. "
[16:47] <cmaloney> Unsure if position or word salad.
[16:49] <jrwren> indians subcontracting back to USA
[16:52] <cmaloney> Yeah
[18:10] <greg-g> recommendations for a good task tracker for a volunteer group (they're planning a big conference)?
[18:12] <jrwren> trello?
[18:14] <rick_h> yea, trello is a basic easy for all kind of start
[18:17] <cmaloney> Yeah, I'd go with Trello
[18:17] <cmaloney> If you have a high bias toward OSS with hosting I'd go with Taiga.io
[18:17] <cmaloney> but it's not as intuitive as Trello
[18:18] <greg-g> coolio, thanks all
[18:18]  * greg-g looks into Taiga.io
[18:21] <cmaloney> Taiga is very developer-oriented though. Things are "user stories" and have points
[18:22]  * greg-g nods
[18:22] <jrwren> sounds ghastly.
[18:23] <cmaloney> Nah, it's not that bad.
[18:23] <greg-g> jrwren: come on, don't you do weekly task estimation with your team using playing cards?
[18:24] <cmaloney> They use the pub suds methodology
[18:24] <cmaloney> Go to the pub, get some beer, put the tasks on a dart board, and throw darts. ;)
[18:25] <jrwren> greg-g: no, and I'd be looking for new work if I did.
[18:25] <jrwren> greg-g: scrum is terrible.
[18:25] <cmaloney> Scrum is really optimistic
[18:25] <jrwren> is it?
[18:25] <cmaloney> planning two weeks in advance can be tricky
[18:26] <cmaloney> and invariably it makes people feel terrible when they don't meet their optimism two weeks before
[18:26] <jrwren> tricky? I'd say for many teams it can be impossible.
[18:26] <jrwren> its also very wasteful.
[18:26] <cmaloney> Yeah
[18:27] <cmaloney> I understand why folks graviate towards it but Scrum always feels grafted on and unnatural
[18:27] <jrwren> i don't understand other than believing the sales folks
[18:28] <jrwren> am tip: never believe the sales folks.
[18:28] <greg-g> isn't it 1:30 over there?
[18:28] <cmaloney> yeah
[18:28] <greg-g> :P
[18:29] <cmaloney> Honestly the biggest issuw with any of these issue tracking boards is getting folks to use it
[18:30] <cmaloney> (he says about the Trello board that about half of the MUG board uses)
[18:30]  * cmaloney coughs
[20:34] <brousch> cmaloney: Approx. 4 people use the copy of your board I made for GRPUG
[20:34] <brousch> Nope, only 3
[21:50] <cmaloney> ?
[21:50] <cmaloney> The Trello board?
[21:51] <brousch> Yeah
[21:51] <brousch> I vopied the mug board for grpug
[21:52] <cmaloney> Oh for the topics?
[21:52] <cmaloney> Or just the layout?
[22:47] <brousch> layout
[22:47] <brousch> Then cut out a couple of columns
[22:48] <brousch> Having to add people to Trello is the biggest hurdle