| * slangasek waves | 20:00 | |
| slangasek | #startmeeting | 20:01 |
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| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Nov 21 20:01:00 2017 UTC. The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 20:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 20:01 |
| * stgraber waves | 20:01 | |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Apologies | 20:01 |
| slangasek | no apologies on the mailing list or seen on IRC | 20:01 |
| slangasek | we do have quorum | 20:01 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Action review | 20:01 |
| slangasek | these all look familiar | 20:01 |
| slangasek | ACTION: infinity to ask maas team to prepare SRU exception policy à la CurtinUpdates | 20:02 |
| slangasek | ACTION: infinity to play with seed/maint-check changes on dogfood to build a new xenial release pocket for support length auditing (ETA: 16.04.3 release) | 20:02 |
| slangasek | infinity: any updates? | 20:02 |
| * mdeslaur waves | 20:02 | |
| infinity | None this time around, sorry. | 20:03 |
| slangasek | ACTION: slangasek to investigate getting tagged ubuntu-community bugs automatically forwarded to technical-board, and if not feasible, fall back to DMB sending signed emails to list for ACL requests | 20:03 |
| slangasek | still carry-over for me as well | 20:03 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Mailing list | 20:03 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2017-October/thread.html | 20:03 |
| slangasek | [LINK]https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2017-November/thread.html | 20:04 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2017-November/thread.html | 20:04 |
| slangasek | some unanswered requests from both October and November | 20:04 |
| slangasek | (and also some spam, blech, how did that get through) | 20:04 |
| slangasek | do we want to discuss either the flatpak or ubuntu-unity-remix questions here? would anyone like to take point on following up on either? | 20:05 |
| mdeslaur | I can respond to the flatpak one | 20:05 |
| slangasek | [ACTION] mdeslaur to follow up on flatpak SRU inquiry | 20:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: mdeslaur to follow up on flatpak SRU inquiry | 20:06 |
| slangasek | mdeslaur: thanks | 20:06 |
| slangasek | I can take ubuntu-unity-remix | 20:06 |
| slangasek | [ACTION] slangasek to follow up on ubuntu-unity-remix | 20:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: slangasek to follow up on ubuntu-unity-remix | 20:06 |
| infinity | I feel like jbicha responded to the flatpak thing? | 20:06 |
| infinity | Given he's the one who would be doing the SRUs (probably), his input in the short thread seemed reasonable. | 20:07 |
| slangasek | he did but he's not TB; does it need further follow-up / confirmation from us? | 20:07 |
| infinity | Random people asking for exceptions to make someone else do work aren't useful. :P | 20:07 |
| slangasek | if mdeslaur wants to follow it up, that's fine | 20:07 |
| slangasek | I did have the original message still in my to-reply queue so apparently I thought it still warranted a response :) | 20:07 |
| mdeslaur | I'll read through it and will respond to either confirm jbicha's response, or add additional info | 20:07 |
| * slangasek nods | 20:07 | |
| infinity | I want to have opinions about ubuntu-unity-remix, but I feel like "just let it die" isn't a helpful followup. | 20:09 |
| slangasek | probably not :) | 20:10 |
| slangasek | I figured I would press them for evidence that they're actually maintaining it rather than just saying they'll maintain it | 20:10 |
| infinity | Well, if they don't have a chunk of the original compiz/unity7 team on their side, I'd say it's just people maintaining a metapackage that points at dead code. | 20:11 |
| infinity | And I'd rather remove unity from the archive in that instance, not have a flavour. | 20:11 |
| slangasek | my recollection was that there was some vague committment from the Desktop Team to keep unity7 available as an alternative | 20:11 |
| slangasek | I'll track that down and respond on list | 20:12 |
| infinity | (especially given compiz's bug history, it's not like it's a project that can just go on life support and magically keep working for 5-10 years) | 20:12 |
| slangasek | my gut reaction is similar to yours that unity7 should just be allowed to die peacefully instead of being made a flavor; but I'm not sure with TB hat on it's in order for me to argue that | 20:13 |
| slangasek | so I'll drill down into the specifics | 20:13 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Community bugs | 20:13 |
| infinity | Well, with the T part of the TB hat in play, I think it's entirely valid to demand evidence of *competent* support and upstream commitment for those bits. | 20:13 |
| slangasek | indeed | 20:14 |
| infinity | All our other desktops have active upstreams, and fairly active downstreams. | 20:14 |
| slangasek | [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard | 20:14 |
| slangasek | zarro boogs | 20:14 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] Select a chair for the next meeting | 20:14 |
| slangasek | magic 8 ball says: stgraber as chair, infinity as backup | 20:15 |
| slangasek | Y/n? | 20:15 |
| mdeslaur | ^C | 20:15 |
| slangasek | heh | 20:15 |
| * slangasek waves to kees | 20:15 | |
| kees | super late! | 20:15 |
| mdeslaur | kees: traffic jam? | 20:15 |
| slangasek | kees: we were just finishing ;) | 20:15 |
| infinity | Who's that guy? | 20:16 |
| kees | sorry, combined confusion over timezones and loud toddler | 20:16 |
| infinity | kees: Does your toddler observe DST? | 20:16 |
| kees | infinity: for longer than I did, yes | 20:16 |
| slangasek | [AGREED] Next TB meeting: Tuesday, Dec 5 @ 20:00 UTC, stgraber to chair, infinity as backup | 20:18 |
| slangasek | [TOPIC] AOB | 20:18 |
| slangasek | anything else? | 20:18 |
| infinity | I want to know why kees hates us. | 20:19 |
| * infinity stares at kees. | 20:19 | |
| kees | :( | 20:19 |
| slangasek | I thought we established that it was Daylight Savings Toddler | 20:20 |
| mdeslaur | I just assumed he was on a two-months lkml-fuled bender | 20:20 |
| mdeslaur | fueled | 20:20 |
| mdeslaur | argh, I can't type | 20:20 |
| infinity | None of us can. | 20:20 |
| infinity | And yet, we do it for a living. | 20:20 |
| kees | mdeslaur: well, that's probably not far from the truth | 20:21 |
| slangasek | :) | 20:22 |
| slangasek | #endmeeting | 20:22 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Nov 21 20:22:10 2017 UTC. | 20:22 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2017/ubuntu-meeting-2.2017-11-21-20.01.moin.txt | 20:22 |
| slangasek | thanks, all | 20:22 |
| mdeslaur | thanks everyone | 20:22 |
| stgraber | thanks! | 20:22 |
| kees | thanks! | 20:23 |
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