* slangasek waves20:00
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Nov 21 20:01:00 2017 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.20:01
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick20:01
* stgraber waves20:01
slangasek[TOPIC] Apologies20:01
slangasekno apologies on the mailing list or seen on IRC20:01
slangasekwe do have quorum20:01
slangasek[TOPIC] Action review20:01
slangasekthese all look familiar20:01
slangasekACTION: infinity to ask maas team to prepare SRU exception policy à la CurtinUpdates20:02
slangasekACTION: infinity to play with seed/maint-check changes on dogfood to build a new xenial release pocket for support length auditing (ETA: 16.04.3 release)20:02
slangasekinfinity: any updates?20:02
* mdeslaur waves20:02
infinityNone this time around, sorry.20:03
slangasekACTION: slangasek to investigate getting tagged ubuntu-community bugs automatically forwarded to technical-board, and if not feasible, fall back to DMB sending signed emails to list for ACL requests20:03
slangasekstill carry-over for me as well20:03
slangasek[TOPIC] Mailing list20:03
slangasek[LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2017-October/thread.html20:03
slangasek[LINK] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2017-November/thread.html20:04
slangaseksome unanswered requests from both October and November20:04
slangasek(and also some spam, blech, how did that get through)20:04
slangasekdo we want to discuss either the flatpak or ubuntu-unity-remix questions here?  would anyone like to take point on following up on either?20:05
mdeslaurI can respond to the flatpak one20:05
slangasek[ACTION] mdeslaur to follow up on flatpak SRU inquiry20:06
meetingologyACTION: mdeslaur to follow up on flatpak SRU inquiry20:06
slangasekmdeslaur: thanks20:06
slangasekI can take ubuntu-unity-remix20:06
slangasek[ACTION] slangasek to follow up on ubuntu-unity-remix20:06
meetingologyACTION: slangasek to follow up on ubuntu-unity-remix20:06
infinityI feel like jbicha responded to the flatpak thing?20:06
infinityGiven he's the one who would be doing the SRUs (probably), his input in the short thread seemed reasonable.20:07
slangasekhe did but he's not TB; does it need further follow-up / confirmation from us?20:07
infinityRandom people asking for exceptions to make someone else do work aren't useful. :P20:07
slangasekif mdeslaur wants to follow it up, that's fine20:07
slangasekI did have the original message still in my to-reply queue so apparently I thought it still warranted a response :)20:07
mdeslaurI'll read through it and will respond to either confirm jbicha's response, or add additional info20:07
* slangasek nods20:07
infinityI want to have opinions about ubuntu-unity-remix, but I feel like "just let it die" isn't a helpful followup.20:09
slangasekprobably not :)20:10
slangasekI figured I would press them for evidence that they're actually maintaining it rather than just saying they'll maintain it20:10
infinityWell, if they don't have a chunk of the original compiz/unity7 team on their side, I'd say it's just people maintaining a metapackage that points at dead code.20:11
infinityAnd I'd rather remove unity from the archive in that instance, not have a flavour.20:11
slangasekmy recollection was that there was some vague committment from the Desktop Team to keep unity7 available as an alternative20:11
slangasekI'll track that down and respond on list20:12
infinity(especially given compiz's bug history, it's not like it's a project that can just go on life support and magically keep working for 5-10 years)20:12
slangasekmy gut reaction is similar to yours that unity7 should just be allowed to die peacefully instead of being made a flavor; but I'm not sure with TB hat on it's in order for me to argue that20:13
slangasekso I'll drill down into the specifics20:13
slangasek[TOPIC] Community bugs20:13
infinityWell, with the T part of the TB hat in play, I think it's entirely valid to demand evidence of *competent* support and upstream commitment for those bits.20:13
infinityAll our other desktops have active upstreams, and fairly active downstreams.20:14
slangasek[LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard20:14
slangasekzarro boogs20:14
slangasek[TOPIC] Select a chair for the next meeting20:14
slangasekmagic 8 ball says: stgraber as chair, infinity as backup20:15
* slangasek waves to kees20:15
keessuper late!20:15
mdeslaurkees: traffic jam?20:15
slangasekkees: we were just finishing ;)20:15
infinityWho's that guy?20:16
keessorry, combined confusion over timezones and loud toddler20:16
infinitykees: Does your toddler observe DST?20:16
keesinfinity: for longer than I did, yes20:16
slangasek[AGREED] Next TB meeting: Tuesday, Dec 5 @ 20:00 UTC, stgraber to chair, infinity as backup20:18
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB20:18
slangasekanything else?20:18
infinityI want to know why kees hates us.20:19
* infinity stares at kees.20:19
slangasekI thought we established that it was Daylight Savings Toddler20:20
mdeslaurI just assumed he was on a two-months lkml-fuled bender20:20
mdeslaurargh, I can't type20:20
infinityNone of us can.20:20
infinityAnd yet, we do it for a living.20:20
keesmdeslaur: well, that's probably not far from the truth20:21
meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Nov 21 20:22:10 2017 UTC.20:22
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting-2/2017/ubuntu-meeting-2.2017-11-21-20.01.moin.txt20:22
slangasekthanks, all20:22
mdeslaurthanks everyone20:22

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