cmaloney | Yeah, we just let anyone post a comment | 02:55 |
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cmaloney | I borrowed that idea from UNIX Stickers | 02:56 |
cmaloney | morning | 13:54 |
_stink_ | yo | 14:15 |
rick_h | party | 14:41 |
cmaloney | Are we having fun yet? | 14:51 |
jrwren | Do you ever feel the cortisol flood your body as a result of reading code? | 15:53 |
rick_h | I thought that was just blood flowing, but hey maybe? | 15:57 |
jrwren | need to find better stress mgmt methods, I guess :) | 16:03 |
brousch | Hm, I normally just feel disappointment | 16:14 |
jrwren | usually no biggie... but when you know where a couple of bodies are burried in teh code and you are digging them out and then find a dozen more... aaaahhh!!! | 16:16 |
cmaloney | jrwren: I've tried to be more mindful when I code | 16:33 |
cmaloney | and realize that it's just code | 16:33 |
cmaloney | and write things down when they occur | 16:33 |
jrwren | oh sure, I am pretty good about that. | 16:33 |
cmaloney | instead of trying to fix all the things in the moment | 16:33 |
cmaloney | but yeah, sometimes you inadvertently stick your hand into a hole and then realize there's a lot of sleeping wasps in there | 16:34 |
cmaloney | and one of them just woke up | 16:34 |
jrwren | lol. | 16:34 |
* cmaloney is still trying to parse the person who said that Virtualenvs are an antipattern discussion on github | 16:34 | |
jrwren | its when I already was mindful, made the note, came back 2 weeks or a month later to address the issue and find the wasps that I feel it. | 16:34 |
jrwren | virtualenvs are an antipattern. I agreee with that ;) | 16:35 |
cmaloney | jrwren: Don't make me come find you | 16:35 |
jrwren | they are a workaround for the inability to achieve an ideal. | 16:35 |
* cmaloney thinks snaps are an anti-pattern. ;) | 16:35 | |
jrwren | ideally every python program on your system would depend on teh same version of whatever libraries on which it depends. | 16:35 |
jrwren | achieving that ideal is hard, so we use virtualenvs instead. | 16:36 |
cmaloney | Yeah, this person said that pinning packages to a particular version was causing him grief | 16:36 |
cmaloney | and I'm thinking "If you're installing this system-wide I fear for your ssytem" | 16:36 |
cmaloney | but e/w. | 16:36 |
cmaloney | w/e | 16:36 |
brousch | Ideally you wipe and reinstall your OS each time you work on a different program so you don't have to worry about virtualenvs | 18:24 |
cmaloney | brousch: Yeah, that totally works. ;) | 18:25 |
cmaloney | (though that's pretty much containers in a nutshell) | 18:25 |
jrwren | lol | 18:26 |
cmaloney | honestly that is my workaround for ruby code | 18:27 |
cmaloney | never understood that ecosystem and how it is supposed to work | 18:28 |
jrwren | its just like python | 18:28 |
cmaloney | except not | 18:28 |
cmaloney | it does some strange version pinning that I didn't grok | 18:29 |
brousch | rake magic? | 18:29 |
jrwren | python has that too. | 18:29 |
cmaloney | well, bundler didnt help either | 18:29 |
cmaloney | jrwren: in the same venv? :-) | 18:29 |
cmaloney | not quite | 18:29 |
jrwren | 2 diff ver in same venv? | 18:30 |
cmaloney | in ruby yes | 18:30 |
cmaloney | it did some strange shit when i set up redmine | 18:30 |
cmaloney | not remembering everything that happened but i remember it felt like it was cresting a repo for many ruby versions and setups jnstead of python's one python per venv | 18:31 |
cmaloney | damn typos | 18:31 |
cmaloney | creating | 18:32 |
jrwren | redmine is insane though. | 19:17 |
jrwren | i think the python equiv would be like setting up reddit | 19:17 |
cmaloney | It wasn't quite that bad | 19:46 |
cmaloney | but yeah, it wasn't trivial | 19:46 |
cmaloney | and we used rbenv I think | 19:46 |
* cmaloney is a little foggy on details | 19:46 |
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