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cmaloneyYeah, we just let anyone post a comment02:55
cmaloneyI borrowed that idea from  UNIX Stickers02:56
cmaloneymorning13:54
_stink_yo14:15
rick_hparty14:41
cmaloneyAre we having fun yet?14:51
jrwrenDo you ever feel the cortisol flood your body as a result of reading code?15:53
rick_hI thought that was just blood flowing, but hey maybe?15:57
jrwrenneed to find better stress mgmt methods, I guess :)16:03
brouschHm, I normally just feel disappointment16:14
jrwrenusually no biggie... but when you know where a couple of bodies are burried in teh code and you are digging them out and then find a dozen more... aaaahhh!!!16:16
cmaloneyjrwren: I've tried to be more mindful when I code16:33
cmaloneyand realize that it's just code16:33
cmaloneyand write things down when they occur16:33
jrwrenoh sure, I am pretty good about that.16:33
cmaloneyinstead of trying to fix all the things in the moment16:33
cmaloneybut yeah, sometimes you inadvertently stick your hand into a hole and then realize there's a lot of sleeping wasps in there16:34
cmaloneyand one of them just woke up16:34
jrwrenlol.16:34
* cmaloney is still trying to parse the person who said that Virtualenvs are an antipattern discussion on github16:34
jrwrenits when I already was mindful, made the note, came back 2 weeks or a month later to address the issue and find the wasps that I feel it.16:34
jrwrenvirtualenvs are an antipattern. I agreee with that ;)16:35
cmaloneyjrwren: Don't make me come find you16:35
jrwrenthey are a workaround for the inability to achieve an ideal.16:35
* cmaloney thinks snaps are an anti-pattern. ;)16:35
jrwrenideally every python program on your system would depend on teh same version of whatever libraries on which it depends.16:35
jrwrenachieving that ideal is hard, so we use virtualenvs instead.16:36
cmaloneyYeah, this person said that pinning packages to a particular version was causing him grief16:36
cmaloneyand I'm thinking "If you're installing this system-wide I fear for your ssytem"16:36
cmaloneybut e/w.16:36
cmaloneyw/e16:36
brouschIdeally you wipe and reinstall your OS each time you work on a different program so you don't have to worry about virtualenvs18:24
cmaloneybrousch: Yeah, that totally works. ;)18:25
cmaloney(though that's pretty much containers in a nutshell)18:25
jrwrenlol18:26
cmaloneyhonestly that is my workaround for ruby code18:27
cmaloneynever understood that ecosystem and how it is supposed to work18:28
jrwrenits just like python18:28
cmaloneyexcept not18:28
cmaloneyit does some strange version pinning that I didn't grok18:29
brouschrake magic?18:29
jrwrenpython has that too.18:29
cmaloneywell, bundler didnt help either18:29
cmaloneyjrwren: in the same venv? :-)18:29
cmaloneynot quite18:29
jrwren2 diff ver in same venv?18:30
cmaloneyin ruby yes18:30
cmaloneyit did some strange shit when i set up redmine18:30
cmaloneynot remembering everything that happened but i remember it felt like it was cresting a repo for many ruby versions and setups jnstead of python's one python per venv18:31
cmaloneydamn typos18:31
cmaloneycreating18:32
jrwrenredmine is insane though.19:17
jrwreni think the python equiv would be like setting up reddit19:17
cmaloneyIt wasn't quite that bad19:46
cmaloneybut yeah, it wasn't trivial19:46
cmaloneyand we used rbenv I think19:46
* cmaloney is a little foggy on details19:46

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