[02:55] Yeah, we just let anyone post a comment [02:56] I borrowed that idea from UNIX Stickers [13:54] morning [14:15] <_stink_> yo [14:41] party [14:51] Are we having fun yet? [15:53] Do you ever feel the cortisol flood your body as a result of reading code? [15:57] I thought that was just blood flowing, but hey maybe? [16:03] need to find better stress mgmt methods, I guess :) [16:14] Hm, I normally just feel disappointment [16:16] usually no biggie... but when you know where a couple of bodies are burried in teh code and you are digging them out and then find a dozen more... aaaahhh!!! [16:33] jrwren: I've tried to be more mindful when I code [16:33] and realize that it's just code [16:33] and write things down when they occur [16:33] oh sure, I am pretty good about that. [16:33] instead of trying to fix all the things in the moment [16:34] but yeah, sometimes you inadvertently stick your hand into a hole and then realize there's a lot of sleeping wasps in there [16:34] and one of them just woke up [16:34] lol. [16:34] * cmaloney is still trying to parse the person who said that Virtualenvs are an antipattern discussion on github [16:34] its when I already was mindful, made the note, came back 2 weeks or a month later to address the issue and find the wasps that I feel it. [16:35] virtualenvs are an antipattern. I agreee with that ;) [16:35] jrwren: Don't make me come find you [16:35] they are a workaround for the inability to achieve an ideal. [16:35] * cmaloney thinks snaps are an anti-pattern. ;) [16:35] ideally every python program on your system would depend on teh same version of whatever libraries on which it depends. [16:36] achieving that ideal is hard, so we use virtualenvs instead. [16:36] Yeah, this person said that pinning packages to a particular version was causing him grief [16:36] and I'm thinking "If you're installing this system-wide I fear for your ssytem" [16:36] but e/w. [16:36] w/e [18:24] Ideally you wipe and reinstall your OS each time you work on a different program so you don't have to worry about virtualenvs [18:25] brousch: Yeah, that totally works. ;) [18:25] (though that's pretty much containers in a nutshell) [18:26] lol [18:27] honestly that is my workaround for ruby code [18:28] never understood that ecosystem and how it is supposed to work [18:28] its just like python [18:28] except not [18:29] it does some strange version pinning that I didn't grok [18:29] rake magic? [18:29] python has that too. [18:29] well, bundler didnt help either [18:29] jrwren: in the same venv? :-) [18:29] not quite [18:30] 2 diff ver in same venv? [18:30] in ruby yes [18:30] it did some strange shit when i set up redmine [18:31] not remembering everything that happened but i remember it felt like it was cresting a repo for many ruby versions and setups jnstead of python's one python per venv [18:31] damn typos [18:32] creating [19:17] redmine is insane though. [19:17] i think the python equiv would be like setting up reddit [19:46] It wasn't quite that bad [19:46] but yeah, it wasn't trivial [19:46] and we used rbenv I think [19:46] * cmaloney is a little foggy on details