[05:36] <Guest54936> I was trying to understnad why my language keyboard layout indicator suddenly dissapears. I fugred out how it happens. On kubuntu 16.04 after a short why on the kde desktop, kdeinit5 crashes when it crashes teh keyboard layout indicator dissapears and I cannot toggle between keyboard layouts anymore. Is it possible to restart kdeinit 5 without relogging in?
[05:36] <Guest54936> *figured
[05:36] <Guest54936> *after a short while
[05:39] <aiena> can someone help me solve this kdeinit5 crashing problem on kubuntu 16? I am using AMD hardware.
[05:44] <aiena> Is anyone else experiencing kdeinit5 crashing on kubuntu 16
[07:10] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:07] <OOPMan> Hey, so yesterday I came in here and asked if anyone had noticed upgrading from Kubuntu 17.04 to 17.10 caused their KDE start-up time to increase dramatically. Someone suggested I test using a new user account to see if this was a system-wide problem or just specific to my user. It seems the problem is user-specific.
[08:07] <OOPMan> So, is there a way I can reset my KDE profile?
[08:07] <OOPMan> What do I need to delete/move?
[08:35] <lordievader> OOPMan: A whole bunch of stuff in ~/.config/
[09:40] <random1234567890> hi all. is flash installed by default in kubuntu? I never actively installed flash but keep seeing updates
[09:41] <hateball> like I said in #kde you likely ticked the box to install third party stuff
[09:41] <hateball> during install
[09:42] <hateball> if you don't want it then simply remove it using Muon or apt
[09:47] <random1234567890> how'd I do that? muon looks quite confusing: https://imgur.com/a/Z4DEF
[09:52] <hateball> random1234567890: search for adobe instead
[09:53] <random1234567890> hateball: that did the trick. found and removed. thanks a lot!
[09:54] <hateball> random1234567890: :)
[09:54] <random1234567890> a wait...
[09:54] <random1234567890> few things: https://imgur.com/a/NfBqQ status "installed" "requested" remove". what does that mean?
[09:55] <random1234567890> ok, so I have to "apply changes"?
[09:55] <hateball> yes
[09:55] <hateball> and that will ask for your sudo password
[09:56] <random1234567890> ok done. the last screenshot is a problem for color blind people. red and green text on background. not sure if this should be filed as ux bug.
[09:56] <random1234567890> *on blue background
[09:56] <random1234567890> ok thanks for your patience with a noob... next time I know where to look.
[09:57] <hateball> no worries
[09:57] <hateball> !bug | random1234567890
[09:57] <hateball> tho it'd be more a RFE than a bug
[09:57] <random1234567890> RFE?
[09:57] <hateball> well accessibility bug... but I have no experience with the accessibility stuff really
[09:57] <hateball> Request For Enhancement
[09:57]  * random1234567890 feels a lot cleaner with flash gone.
[10:29] <ubsafder> any information how can i recpompile firefox ?
[10:31] <lordievader> ubsafder: Why do you want to do that? You can simply download a tar from Mozilla and run that.
[10:31] <lordievader> Compiling Firefox is a pain.
[10:33] <ubsafder> because i want to check if freedom matter to ubuntu
[10:35] <lordievader> In that case download the source and compile, I suppose.
[10:39] <ubsafder> i have been a windows developper  i wante to check the if ubuntu were really publishing the source so i am downloading major packages and recompiling . firefox published source are a fake it's not compiling
[10:40] <ubsafder> i will continue the quest another few hours before i give up
[11:03] <ubsafder> the real reason firefox destroyed the extention i wrote for my own need i like to change that beheavior on my machine
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:17] <TomTom> ubsafder: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Build_Instructions/Linux_Prerequisites
[12:17] <TomTom> should be a good start
[12:42] <ubsafder> ‎‎TomTom: does that mean that unlike debian kubuntu desn't compiled on it's own it self  ? ‎
[12:44] <TomTom> what? what do you want? you wrote you want to check if/how firefox compiles, this is the way to go
[12:46] <ubsafder> well now i know debian is better thanks
[12:48] <BluesKaj> no need to compile, just use the ppa upgrade https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security
[12:48] <ubsafder> comparing system windows debian ubuntu . on my scale debian comes first windows and ubuntu are at same number of hops to get freedom
[12:51] <ubsafder> i know user are lock down for their own good . that's getting my toes wet  i checked before jumping in the boat and fully rely on a new boat
[12:52] <lordievader> ubsafder: Ubuntu compiles stuff themselves, for as far as I know. Else they get their stuff from Debian.
[13:24] <ubsafder> i am now looking for an alternate browser to firefox what's available with sources ?
[13:28] <ubsafder> any browser with ./configure make ; make install would qualify in my eyes
[13:34] <lordievader> Chromium?
[13:35] <lordievader> Though, about any open-source browser qualifies your needs.
[14:44] <Mike|1965> Hello everyone, not newbe to Linux but newbe to Kubuntu 17.10.
[14:47] <BluesKaj> hi Mike|1965 , what's your issue?
[14:51] <Mike|1965> I am having trouble getting my sound to work out of the box. It comes from the built-in ASUS Maximus VII MB
[14:52] <BluesKaj> Mike|1965, run aplay -l and pastebin it
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Mike|1965, also check alsamixer in the terminal and make sure automute is disabled
[15:03] <Mike|1965> I going to logon on my Kubuntu machine, I'll be back...
[15:05] <Mike|1965-1> I did not know I could not login with same name used a a few seconds ago...
[15:05] <Mike|1965-1> Here is aplay -l from unprived account:
[15:07] <Mike|1965-1> https://thepasteb.in/p/Vmh0yMwroA5I4
[15:10] <Mike|1965-1> alsamixer shows MM on "Line"
[15:15] <Mike|1965-1> I changed the "Line" in alsamixer to 100%... and still nothing 8^(
[15:19] <BluesKaj> remove  MM with the M key in any outputs that you need and turn up the volume
[15:19] <BluesKaj> MMM=mute
[15:19] <BluesKaj> mm even ;-)
[15:26] <Mike|1965-1> trinity
[15:41] <Mike|1965-1> Sorry, back again... pls don't ask. I did the MM think and quit----> No dice.
[15:49] <BluesKaj> what about automute and your system settings>multimedia>device prefernce/music settings, then the audio harware setup tab
[15:50] <BluesKaj> automute in alsamixer
[15:51] <BluesKaj> audio on linux is a mess, takes some mucking about to get things right
[15:52] <Mike|1965-1> ok BluesKaj...
[15:53] <BluesKaj> Mike|1965-1, we have keep trying until it works
[16:01] <Mike|1965-1> I went to system settings>multimedia>   | All I have for selections are "Audio CDs | Audio Volume | Audio and Video" - Remember 17.10
[16:06] <BluesKaj> Mike|1965-1, I have to ask again, have you disabled automute in alsamixer, because it's setting is global
[16:07] <Mike|1965-1> Under Audio and Video>Audio Playback>Music it has my Video Card in subdued test. Does this mean it is selected?
[16:08] <Mike|1965-1> Yes, but I will check again...
[16:08] <BluesKaj> please read the post above first before we go any further
[16:10] <BluesKaj> Mike|1965-1, we'll set that up the default audio card next
[16:10] <BluesKaj> in the
[16:12] <BluesKaj> after disabling automte in alsamixer , hit the esc button and do,  sudo alsactl store
[16:18] <Mike|1965-1> ok, there are not a one that has MM below or seen, for that matter, in alsamixer. After I EXIT with Esc is ther anything else I need to do?
[16:18] <Mike|1965-1> Just read it!
[16:20] <Mike|1965-1> Nada
[16:20] <BluesKaj> Mike|1965-1, i need to know the audio chip so we can make sure you have the correct driver, run,  lspci | grep -i audio
[16:22] <BluesKaj> that will tell us the hardware audio chip
[16:23] <BluesKaj> just a few more steps to go
[16:24] <Mike|1965-1> lspci | grep -i audio
[16:24] <Mike|1965-1> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family HD Audio Controller
[16:24] <Mike|1965-1> 01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device aaf0
[16:24] <Mike|1965-1> lspci | grep -i audio
[16:24] <Mike|1965-1> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 9 Series Chipset Family HD Audio Controller
[16:24] <Mike|1965-1> 01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device aaf0
[16:25] <Pici> /25
[16:26] <Mike|1965-1> Sorry for the extra garbage, my ignorance.
[16:26] <BluesKaj> Mike|1965-1, ok, sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel, if that driver loads properly there won't be any output from the command
[16:28] <Mike|1965-1> Should I test it out now?
[16:28] <BluesKaj> no,
[16:29] <Mike|1965-1> OK
[16:29] <Mike|1965-1> next?
[16:30] <BluesKaj> now we need to add a line with root permissions to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[16:33] <BluesKaj> the line is: options snd-hda-intel index=0
[16:33] <Mike|1965-1> at the end of the file?
[16:33] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:33] <BluesKaj> then save and exit
[16:34] <BluesKaj> once done, reboot
[16:36] <Mike|1965-1> Lots of options in the file. I will see you in a minute or so 8^))
[16:37] <BluesKaj> ok
[16:40] <Mike|1965-1> NOW we test?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> yup
[16:42] <Mike|1965-1> I tried using VLC and a .ogg file.... No dice 8(
[16:43] <BluesKaj> ok , need to look at alsamixer , can you do a screenshot and post it at https://postimages.org/
[16:44] <BluesKaj> and paste the resulting url  here
[16:45] <Mike|1965-1> I will try. Oh, OK.
[16:52] <BluesKaj> vlc also has audio settings which have to be set to use the correct audo output device
[16:55] <BluesKaj> vlc>tools>prefernces>audio, choose alsa audio output or pulseaudio, which ever works
[16:55] <BluesKaj> ok, gotta go for about 20 mins ...bbl
[17:19] <BluesKaj> bk
[17:31] <Mike|1965-1> OK, Finally! BluesKaj:  https://postimg.org/image/ebjy7ceq9/
[17:33] <BluesKaj> Mike|1965-1, ok , crank your master up to 100%
[17:34] <BluesKaj> thrn read my posts about vlc settings
[17:46] <Mike|1965-1> I did and changed them as you directed... No dice.
[17:48] <Mike|1965-1> I tried "Volume Control" and it only shows the ATI HDMI outputs, are these my Video Card?
[17:49] <Mike|1965-1> UUUUhhhhg!
[17:49] <BluesKaj> ok install pavucontrol , it helps to solidify your audio outs
[17:49] <Mike|1965-1> ok
[17:55] <Mike|1965-1> It shows my ATI Video Card as my Main Output device and NO other option to change it.
[18:00] <BluesKaj> pavucontrol what shows that?
[18:02] <BluesKaj> err drop the "what"
[18:02] <Mike|1965-1> I went into Configuration and turned OFF my ATI Vid and the other defaulted to Built in Audio and I chose "Analog Stero Output"
[18:04] <BluesKaj> you have an AMD graphics card, correct ? if so the hdmi audio portion carries the audio signal thru the card to hdmi connected device, tv/audio receiver , amp etc
[18:05] <Mike|1965-1> When I close it, it said the .config file was in a BAD State
[18:05] <BluesKaj> which config file ?
[18:06] <Mike|1965-1> the ~/root/pavucontrol.config
[18:18] <BluesKaj> the only thing I can suggest is to enable the audio codec in the UEFI/BIOS which should switch thew default card to the intel as it should be.
[19:15] <user|95417> where can 8 get a live version
[19:16] <caton101> The official ISO can be booted live. Here is the download page: https://kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/
[19:17] <user|95417> i meed a live version
[19:18] <caton101> Once it is booted, you click "Try Kubuntu". It will boot as a live disk.
[22:59] <johnmilo2884> hi
[23:01] <johnmilo2884> sombody, knowed how to install wallets bitcoin POS in linux
[23:04] <johnmilo2884> im ask because the documentation is limited
[23:12]  * genii keeps searching anyways for some point-of-sale software with bitcoin
[23:43] <keithzg> Hmm, how does one actually change teh Xorg arguments used by SDDM? Setting in /etc/sddm.conf doesn't seem to do anything.
[23:52] <genii> keithzg:  /usr/share/sddm/scripts/Xsetup ?
[23:53] <keithzg> genii: Surely that's for disto-shipped configs and can be overridden in a config file somewhere? But thanks, shall try :)
[23:55] <genii> keithzg: I'm using lightdm because I was having too many issues with sddm over multiple monitors before
[23:59] <keithzg> genii: Funny enough, my coworker who is using SDDM nowadays was having problems with his monitors *until* the update that switched him to SDDM, heh (haven't had any problems myself other than the placement problem)
[23:59] <genii> I had a dead laptop screen and it kept wanting to use that as the primary