| Kamilion | oh, the guy from #libreboot's here. | 00:31 |
|---|---|---|
| Kamilion | guess he took my advice about learning more linux | 00:31 |
| Kamilion | (the bobsmith83 guy) | 00:31 |
| wxl | yeah he's been around quite a bit actually | 00:32 |
| Kamilion | IIRC he's on some kind of freshly cleaned acer chromebook | 00:32 |
| Kamilion | has no idea what he's doing in linux | 00:32 |
| GuyFawkes | Hello - Can anyone tell me what the differences are between lubuntu, lubuntu laptop and openbox? I discovered that at sign-in the other day and laptop seems to work best on my machine | 14:11 |
| GuyFawkes | testing...is anybody out there? | 14:25 |
| pleia2 | could be no one lurking knows the answer right now :) feel free to hang around | 14:26 |
| GuyFawkes | Yeah, that's the plan. I can't even find anything in the support docs, so...hoping at least for a link. | 14:28 |
| Dishonored | hello, guys i recently installed a font, and opened leafpad and tried changing a text to that font, its shows correctly in the preview but doesn't work in the actual text. | 14:37 |
| JohnDoe_71Rus | most of the documentation is shared with ubuntu | 14:37 |
| GuyFawkes | Most eh? keep looking is what you're saying? | 14:50 |
| GuyFawkes | ok, maybe something easier then, for someone fairly new to *ubuntu: Software update launches, tells me there are updates, I click install and it fails. what can I do on the command line? | 15:00 |
| boi222 | hey can anyone help me with a boot issue? i installed lubuntu in a vm but when the vm restarted, i only see a blank screen. i've tried several restarts | 16:43 |
| bobsmith83 | good morning. i must be a total moron, because I've spent almost an entire day, and still cannot seem to complete a simple task: copy a .img file from HDD to SD card, then copy it back to another machines HDD to create a backup | 17:55 |
| bobsmith83 | can anyone hold my hand please and try and explain this mount thing? gahhh! | 17:56 |
| wxl | you have both things mounted? if so, where? | 17:57 |
| bobsmith83 | well, when i do fdisk -l, i see the sd card as /dev/sdb | 17:57 |
| wxl | mount is where you see things are mounted | 17:58 |
| bobsmith83 | the hdd is mounted all four partitions, contains os, etc | 17:58 |
| wxl | if you don't see sdb-something there, you don't have it mounted | 17:58 |
| wxl | if it's not mounted you can't use it | 17:58 |
| bobsmith83 | ok, how and where to mount then? I've tried... | 17:59 |
| wxl | you need to create a directory to mount it to | 17:59 |
| wxl | you could for example: | 18:00 |
| wxl | sudo mkdir -p /mnt/sdcard | 18:00 |
| bobsmith83 | ok, cant i just mount it to /media, or /mnt? | 18:00 |
| wxl | mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdcard | 18:00 |
| wxl | assuming it does actually have a partition on it and 1 is the partition you wish to mouhnt | 18:00 |
| wxl | well you need to put it in a folder within /media or /mnt or else it makes the whole thing useless to anything else | 18:01 |
| wxl | you CAN do it, but you don't want to :) | 18:01 |
| bobsmith83 | maybe thats the problem. It has no partitions. i used "disks" to format it with no partitions | 18:01 |
| bobsmith83 | so, do i need to create partitions first? | 18:02 |
| bobsmith83 | I made the dir successfully... | 18:04 |
| bobsmith83 | looks like it. so, how to do that? back to "disks" and reformat it wiht other options? | 18:06 |
| wxl | yes you need to create the partitions, bobsmith83 | 18:06 |
| bobsmith83 | maybe with "disks" or "gparted"? | 18:07 |
| wxl | well a partition :) | 18:07 |
| bobsmith83 | or cmd line... | 18:07 |
| wxl | either would work | 18:07 |
| bobsmith83 | i want to learn cmd line solid. can you walk me thru it? if you have time? | 18:07 |
| wxl | cfdisk is fairly friendly command line wise | 18:07 |
| wxl | otherwise it's fdisk you need to use | 18:08 |
| wxl | cfdisk is an example of a CLI utility with a visual UI | 18:08 |
| bobsmith83 | lets try fdisk | 18:08 |
| wxl | sudo fdisk /dev/sdb | 18:09 |
| wxl | start with the command p to see what's there | 18:09 |
| wxl | assuming there are indeed no partitions (/dev/sdb[1..n]) | 18:09 |
| wxl | then i'd start by changing units | 18:10 |
| wxl | to gb | 18:10 |
| wxl | with u | 18:10 |
| wxl | oh fooey | 18:11 |
| wxl | i guess that's not an option on this version. annoying........ | 18:11 |
| bobsmith83 | lol | 18:11 |
| wxl | whatever | 18:11 |
| wxl | for fun you can create a new partition table with o | 18:12 |
| wxl | then n for a new partition | 18:12 |
| bobsmith83 | lots of "annoying" things coming from my dos background and trying to learn new language | 18:12 |
| wxl | make it primary | 18:12 |
| wxl | give it a number (probably 1) | 18:12 |
| wxl | the first sector should be 0 | 18:13 |
| bobsmith83 | first cylinder, 2 default? | 18:13 |
| wxl | then the last sector can be the end or you can use +8G e.g. | 18:13 |
| wxl | oh yeah you're on cylinders | 18:13 |
| wxl | sure | 18:14 |
| bobsmith83 | ok, did defaults for clyinders. back to command | 18:14 |
| wxl | so p to print again, make sure everything looks right | 18:15 |
| wxl | you can pastebin it somewhere if you want to make sure | 18:15 |
| bobsmith83 | i think i have a partition now! | 18:15 |
| bobsmith83 | time to mount? | 18:15 |
| wxl | almost | 18:15 |
| bobsmith83 | ? | 18:16 |
| wxl | so if you're sure that's right you need to write it with w | 18:17 |
| wxl | now you've done the first step | 18:17 |
| wxl | it still doesn't have a filesystem on it | 18:17 |
| wxl | you want to use this for linux only or you want this to be compatible with windows, etc? | 18:17 |
| bobsmith83 | i c. it looks right | 18:18 |
| bobsmith83 | i dont know. I thought I'd do it just linux, but would be better if I could do compatible with windows fat | 18:18 |
| wxl | sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1 | 18:19 |
| bobsmith83 | I already did " mkfs -t ext4 ..." but that was before partition, so maybe it didnt do anything | 18:20 |
| wxl | yeah probably not. and windows won't like ext4 | 18:20 |
| bobsmith83 | I'm still in fdisk. how do i exit? | 18:20 |
| wxl | w write table to tidks and exit | 18:21 |
| wxl | hahahah well, disk | 18:21 |
| bobsmith83 | k | 18:21 |
| bobsmith83 | created fat file system | 18:22 |
| wxl | now mount it | 18:23 |
| bobsmith83 | k | 18:23 |
| bobsmith83 | success! | 18:25 |
| wxl | btw took you through "the hard way" | 18:26 |
| wxl | the easy way is parted | 18:26 |
| wxl | the really easy way is cfdisk | 18:26 |
| bobsmith83 | of course | 18:26 |
| bobsmith83 | now, id like to create a file, save it on the hard disk, copy it to the sd card, then copy it back to the hd in a different sopt | 18:27 |
| wxl | i assume you can create the file and save it XD | 18:28 |
| wxl | one you have the file: | 18:28 |
| wxl | cp /path/to/file /mnt/sdcard (or whatever you called it) | 18:28 |
| wxl | ctually | 18:28 |
| wxl | actually | 18:28 |
| wxl | cp /path/to/file /mnt/sdcard/ | 18:28 |
| wxl | that slash will ensure it goes IN the directory, though usually collisions won't happen, it's good practice | 18:29 |
| wxl | cp /mnt/sdcard/file /path/to/new/file/location | 18:29 |
| bobsmith83 | ok, whats the txt editor that comes in lubuntu? so i can create a file? | 18:30 |
| wxl | you can create a file (without adding anything to it): | 18:31 |
| wxl | touch file | 18:31 |
| wxl | there you have a file | 18:31 |
| wxl | if you want to edit it, nano is a command line utility, but i prefer vi (though it takes some understanding to figure out how to use it. it's very powerful but not immediately intuitive) | 18:31 |
| bobsmith83 | found it: leafpad... | 18:31 |
| wxl | there's that too | 18:32 |
| wxl | if you want GUIs | 18:32 |
| wxl | but that would be cheating, technically XD | 18:32 |
| bobsmith83 | lol | 18:32 |
| bobsmith83 | gonna try cp it now... | 18:33 |
| bobsmith83 | brb | 18:34 |
| bobsmith83 | error: cannot create regular file: /mnt/sdb1/": not a directory | 18:37 |
| bobsmith83 | sudo? | 18:38 |
| wxl | should NEED to sudo it | 18:38 |
| wxl | what's that "? | 18:38 |
| bobsmith83 | typo | 18:38 |
| wxl | is the location actually /mnt/sdb1 and not /mnt/sdcard? | 18:38 |
| wxl | you can always `ls /path/to/directory` to see if it exists | 18:39 |
| bobsmith83 | my mistake. | 18:39 |
| bobsmith83 | worked! now, going to copy it back to another dir... | 18:40 |
| bobsmith83 | amazing- it worked! thanks again, so much, for your help. its like learning to walk all over again! what about using dd instead of cp? | 18:43 |
| wxl | dd is a bit by bit copy | 18:43 |
| wxl | so it's kind of a different thing | 18:43 |
| wxl | assuming the file contains a file system, dd'ing it will replicate that file system | 18:44 |
| bobsmith83 | but you could do dd if=filename of=/dev/sdb1 and it does the same as cp? | 18:44 |
| wxl | no | 18:45 |
| bobsmith83 | ok, well, I've heard dd called "disk destroyer" so, I feel like I'd best stear clear of it till I understand it better | 18:48 |
| wxl | the only time you should really use dd is for copying a disk image onto some media | 18:48 |
| wxl | or you can use it for completely zeroing out a drive | 18:48 |
| bobsmith83 | one last thing- is there any special considerations when copying .img files? | 18:48 |
| wxl | .img files are usually like .iso files | 18:48 |
| wxl | they're disk images | 18:49 |
| wxl | you can copy them around | 18:49 |
| wxl | but if you wan tto restore the disk image, you'd use dd | 18:49 |
| wxl | but it will wipe whatever's in its place | 18:49 |
| bobsmith83 | OK, so, I'm making a backup of my bios flash image and trying to copy that file to a back up location | 18:49 |
| wxl | you can pass the img file around like any other file | 18:50 |
| bobsmith83 | can I just cp the flash.img as we've done here? | 18:50 |
| wxl | but if you want to use it, you'd use dd to put it on an sd card or something of the sort | 18:50 |
| wxl | yep | 18:50 |
| bobsmith83 | cool! | 18:50 |
| bobsmith83 | my goal here is to replace the bios on this chromebook, with something like libreboot, fyi... | 18:51 |
| wxl | ah cool | 18:52 |
| wxl | also, re: chromebook: my condolences XD | 18:52 |
| bobsmith83 | thanks again for you're help. I;m sure we will be talking mor soon. btw- what is your relation to lubuntu? | 18:52 |
| wxl | i'm one of the release managers (but technically tsimonq2 is in charge) and head of qa | 18:52 |
| bobsmith83 | re chromebook- i hope to rid it of crome os and eventually replace it with lxde debian | 18:53 |
| bobsmith83 | cool, thanks again! | 18:53 |
| wxl | np | 18:53 |
| oki_ | hello | 19:41 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Hey hey | 19:42 |
| brunomotter | hello! I am trying to install Lubuntu 17.10 on an old laptop and if I run from live CD it runs fine, but when I install the graphics get sluggish and with 640X480 resolution! any hints? | 21:58 |
| tsimonq2 | brunomotter: What machine are you on? | 21:59 |
| brunomotter | Itautec W7630 | 21:59 |
| brunomotter | Celeron m processor | 22:00 |
| brunomotter | 1.5GB RAM | 22:00 |
| tsimonq2 | What kind of graphics card? | 22:00 |
| brunomotter | via graphis | 22:02 |
| brunomotter | http://suporte.itautec.com.br/eportaldownload_ptb/start.swe?SWERowId=2-AOCM5E&SWEField=s_3_2_24_2&SWERowIds=SWERowId0%3d2-AOCM5E&SWENeedContext=true&SWESP=false&SWEMethod=Drilldown&SWECmd=InvokeMethod&W=t&SWEVI=&SWEPOC=&SWETargetView=&SWEDIC=false&SWEReqRowId=1&SWEView=ITC+Driver+Download+TotalDrivers+Notebook+View&SWETVI=&SWEC=9&SWEM=&SWEBID=-1&SWESPa=&SRN=&SWEContainer=&SWETS=&SWETA=&SWEApplet=ITC+Drivers+Download+TotalDrivers | 22:04 |
| tsimonq2 | Hmm. | 22:05 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: See something I'm not? | 22:05 |
| tsimonq2 | Otherwise if he doesn't respond soon brunomotter, I'd try #ubuntu. | 22:06 |
| brunomotter | so... I tried ubuntu... it works, but REALLY slow performance | 22:06 |
| brunomotter | on Lubuntu performance is good but no graphics | 22:06 |
| tsimonq2 | I mean the IRC channel. This isn't a Lubuntu-specific issue. ;) | 22:06 |
| brunomotter | oh, I see! | 22:07 |
| brunomotter | well... if he does not respond I will try that then... where can I find Ubuntu IRC? | 22:07 |
| tsimonq2 | In your IRC client, type the following: /join #ubuntu | 22:08 |
| tsimonq2 | :) | 22:08 |
| brunomotter | nice! | 22:08 |
| brunomotter | will try that | 22:08 |
| brunomotter | thanks for being so helpful | 22:08 |
| tsimonq2 | You're welcome, let me know how it goes. :D | 22:08 |
| brunomotter | ok! | 22:09 |
| brunomotter | bye | 22:09 |
| tsimonq2 | o/ | 22:09 |
| bobsmith83 | wxl around? | 22:12 |
| tsimonq2 | bobsmith83: I can help as well. What's up? | 22:13 |
| bobsmith83 | thx. I'm on to next step: $ git clone https://git.code.paulk.fr/libettereboot.git but I get error: | 22:14 |
| bobsmith83 | error: gnutls_handshake() failed” when connecting ... | 22:14 |
| tsimonq2 | Let's see if I can reproduce that. | 22:15 |
| bobsmith83 | found this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/186847/error-gnutls-handshake-failed-when-connecting-to-https-servers#187199 | 22:16 |
| tsimonq2 | I wouldn't do that. | 22:16 |
| bobsmith83 | i didnt want to | 22:17 |
| tsimonq2 | I think it's a server problem, because I can't clone it at all. | 22:18 |
| bobsmith83 | like server down, or someting? | 22:18 |
| tsimonq2 | Could be. | 22:18 |
| bobsmith83 | i c. so, what does git clone do, roughly? | 22:19 |
| tsimonq2 | It takes a remote Git repository hosted on a server somewhere and it pulls all the necessary files that you would need to work with it locally. | 22:20 |
| bobsmith83 | ok, cool. thanks for your help. I will contact paul and c if he has ideas. maybe he's working on it or something. you guys are awesome here. hope you dont mind me keep bugging u with all these questions! | 22:21 |
| bobsmith83 | cheers! | 22:22 |
| tsimonq2 | It's all good, cheers :) | 22:22 |
| wxl | that's up peeps? | 22:39 |
| tsimonq2 | yooo | 22:39 |
| tsimonq2 | bobsmith83: If you're still around, wxl's here :) | 22:39 |
| bobsmith83 | still around indeed. I got the clone thing rolling. I'm on a thinkpad t60, wifi adaptor must be old and slow, cause its taking a looong time to pull down files... | 23:10 |
| bobsmith83 | still faster than my first machine- commodore64- was soo cool when i could dial up connect to q-link on my 300 baud modem! | 23:14 |
| wxl | been there done that, though i had a c128 | 23:14 |
| genii | !lunix | 23:32 |
| ubottu | LUnix is a Little Unix for your Commodore 64, dust it off and visit https://sourceforge.net/projects/lng/ ! | 23:32 |
| genii | Just in case you guys still have them kicking around. | 23:32 |
| wxl | i wish :( | 23:34 |
| bobsmith83 | that would be fun. but its long gone garage sale, no doubt, probably in the 90's | 23:34 |
| genii | Yeah, mine too. | 23:35 |
| genii | I did hang onto the 1701 for a TV hooked to the VCR for a long time after | 23:35 |
| * genii wanders back to the coffeepot | 23:36 | |
| bobsmith83 | got this thinkpenguin usd wifi n dongle. maybe i should plug it in and see if it magically automatically connects and speeds things up? | 23:38 |
| wxl | worth a shot, bobsmith83 | 23:51 |
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