[00:31] oh, the guy from #libreboot's here. [00:31] guess he took my advice about learning more linux [00:31] (the bobsmith83 guy) [00:32] yeah he's been around quite a bit actually [00:32] IIRC he's on some kind of freshly cleaned acer chromebook [00:32] has no idea what he's doing in linux [14:11] Hello - Can anyone tell me what the differences are between lubuntu, lubuntu laptop and openbox? I discovered that at sign-in the other day and laptop seems to work best on my machine [14:25] testing...is anybody out there? [14:26] could be no one lurking knows the answer right now :) feel free to hang around [14:28] Yeah, that's the plan. I can't even find anything in the support docs, so...hoping at least for a link. [14:37] hello, guys i recently installed a font, and opened leafpad and tried changing a text to that font, its shows correctly in the preview but doesn't work in the actual text. [14:37] most of the documentation is shared with ubuntu [14:50] Most eh? keep looking is what you're saying? [15:00] ok, maybe something easier then, for someone fairly new to *ubuntu: Software update launches, tells me there are updates, I click install and it fails. what can I do on the command line? [16:43] hey can anyone help me with a boot issue? i installed lubuntu in a vm but when the vm restarted, i only see a blank screen. i've tried several restarts [17:55] good morning. i must be a total moron, because I've spent almost an entire day, and still cannot seem to complete a simple task: copy a .img file from HDD to SD card, then copy it back to another machines HDD to create a backup [17:56] can anyone hold my hand please and try and explain this mount thing? gahhh! [17:57] you have both things mounted? if so, where? [17:57] well, when i do fdisk -l, i see the sd card as /dev/sdb [17:58] mount is where you see things are mounted [17:58] the hdd is mounted all four partitions, contains os, etc [17:58] if you don't see sdb-something there, you don't have it mounted [17:58] if it's not mounted you can't use it [17:59] ok, how and where to mount then? I've tried... [17:59] you need to create a directory to mount it to [18:00] you could for example: [18:00] sudo mkdir -p /mnt/sdcard [18:00] ok, cant i just mount it to /media, or /mnt? [18:00] mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdcard [18:00] assuming it does actually have a partition on it and 1 is the partition you wish to mouhnt [18:01] well you need to put it in a folder within /media or /mnt or else it makes the whole thing useless to anything else [18:01] you CAN do it, but you don't want to :) [18:01] maybe thats the problem. It has no partitions. i used "disks" to format it with no partitions [18:02] so, do i need to create partitions first? [18:04] I made the dir successfully... [18:06] looks like it. so, how to do that? back to "disks" and reformat it wiht other options? [18:06] yes you need to create the partitions, bobsmith83 [18:07] maybe with "disks" or "gparted"? [18:07] well a partition :) [18:07] or cmd line... [18:07] either would work [18:07] i want to learn cmd line solid. can you walk me thru it? if you have time? [18:07] cfdisk is fairly friendly command line wise [18:08] otherwise it's fdisk you need to use [18:08] cfdisk is an example of a CLI utility with a visual UI [18:08] lets try fdisk [18:09] sudo fdisk /dev/sdb [18:09] start with the command p to see what's there [18:09] assuming there are indeed no partitions (/dev/sdb[1..n]) [18:10] then i'd start by changing units [18:10] to gb [18:10] with u [18:11] oh fooey [18:11] i guess that's not an option on this version. annoying........ [18:11] lol [18:11] whatever [18:12] for fun you can create a new partition table with o [18:12] then n for a new partition [18:12] lots of "annoying" things coming from my dos background and trying to learn new language [18:12] make it primary [18:12] give it a number (probably 1) [18:13] the first sector should be 0 [18:13] first cylinder, 2 default? [18:13] then the last sector can be the end or you can use +8G e.g. [18:13] oh yeah you're on cylinders [18:14] sure [18:14] ok, did defaults for clyinders. back to command [18:15] so p to print again, make sure everything looks right [18:15] you can pastebin it somewhere if you want to make sure [18:15] i think i have a partition now! [18:15] time to mount? [18:15] almost [18:16] ? [18:17] so if you're sure that's right you need to write it with w [18:17] now you've done the first step [18:17] it still doesn't have a filesystem on it [18:17] you want to use this for linux only or you want this to be compatible with windows, etc? [18:18] i c. it looks right [18:18] i dont know. I thought I'd do it just linux, but would be better if I could do compatible with windows fat [18:19] sudo mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1 [18:20] I already did " mkfs -t ext4 ..." but that was before partition, so maybe it didnt do anything [18:20] yeah probably not. and windows won't like ext4 [18:20] I'm still in fdisk. how do i exit? [18:21] w write table to tidks and exit [18:21] hahahah well, disk [18:21] k [18:22] created fat file system [18:23] now mount it [18:23] k [18:25] success! [18:26] btw took you through "the hard way" [18:26] the easy way is parted [18:26] the really easy way is cfdisk [18:26] of course [18:27] now, id like to create a file, save it on the hard disk, copy it to the sd card, then copy it back to the hd in a different sopt [18:28] i assume you can create the file and save it XD [18:28] one you have the file: [18:28] cp /path/to/file /mnt/sdcard (or whatever you called it) [18:28] ctually [18:28] actually [18:28] cp /path/to/file /mnt/sdcard/ [18:29] that slash will ensure it goes IN the directory, though usually collisions won't happen, it's good practice [18:29] cp /mnt/sdcard/file /path/to/new/file/location [18:30] ok, whats the txt editor that comes in lubuntu? so i can create a file? [18:31] you can create a file (without adding anything to it): [18:31] touch file [18:31] there you have a file [18:31] if you want to edit it, nano is a command line utility, but i prefer vi (though it takes some understanding to figure out how to use it. it's very powerful but not immediately intuitive) [18:31] found it: leafpad... [18:32] there's that too [18:32] if you want GUIs [18:32] but that would be cheating, technically XD [18:32] lol [18:33] gonna try cp it now... [18:34] brb [18:37] error: cannot create regular file: /mnt/sdb1/": not a directory [18:38] sudo? [18:38] should NEED to sudo it [18:38] what's that "? [18:38] typo [18:38] is the location actually /mnt/sdb1 and not /mnt/sdcard? [18:39] you can always `ls /path/to/directory` to see if it exists [18:39] my mistake. [18:40] worked! now, going to copy it back to another dir... [18:43] amazing- it worked! thanks again, so much, for your help. its like learning to walk all over again! what about using dd instead of cp? [18:43] dd is a bit by bit copy [18:43] so it's kind of a different thing [18:44] assuming the file contains a file system, dd'ing it will replicate that file system [18:44] but you could do dd if=filename of=/dev/sdb1 and it does the same as cp? [18:45] no [18:48] ok, well, I've heard dd called "disk destroyer" so, I feel like I'd best stear clear of it till I understand it better [18:48] the only time you should really use dd is for copying a disk image onto some media [18:48] or you can use it for completely zeroing out a drive [18:48] one last thing- is there any special considerations when copying .img files? [18:48] .img files are usually like .iso files [18:49] they're disk images [18:49] you can copy them around [18:49] but if you wan tto restore the disk image, you'd use dd [18:49] but it will wipe whatever's in its place [18:49] OK, so, I'm making a backup of my bios flash image and trying to copy that file to a back up location [18:50] you can pass the img file around like any other file [18:50] can I just cp the flash.img as we've done here? [18:50] but if you want to use it, you'd use dd to put it on an sd card or something of the sort [18:50] yep [18:50] cool! [18:51] my goal here is to replace the bios on this chromebook, with something like libreboot, fyi... [18:52] ah cool [18:52] also, re: chromebook: my condolences XD [18:52] thanks again for you're help. I;m sure we will be talking mor soon. btw- what is your relation to lubuntu? [18:52] i'm one of the release managers (but technically tsimonq2 is in charge) and head of qa [18:53] re chromebook- i hope to rid it of crome os and eventually replace it with lxde debian [18:53] cool, thanks again! [18:53] np [19:41] hello [19:42] Hey hey [21:58] hello! I am trying to install Lubuntu 17.10 on an old laptop and if I run from live CD it runs fine, but when I install the graphics get sluggish and with 640X480 resolution! any hints? [21:59] brunomotter: What machine are you on? [21:59] Itautec W7630 [22:00] Celeron m processor [22:00] 1.5GB RAM [22:00] What kind of graphics card? [22:02] via graphis [22:04] http://suporte.itautec.com.br/eportaldownload_ptb/start.swe?SWERowId=2-AOCM5E&SWEField=s_3_2_24_2&SWERowIds=SWERowId0%3d2-AOCM5E&SWENeedContext=true&SWESP=false&SWEMethod=Drilldown&SWECmd=InvokeMethod&W=t&SWEVI=&SWEPOC=&SWETargetView=&SWEDIC=false&SWEReqRowId=1&SWEView=ITC+Driver+Download+TotalDrivers+Notebook+View&SWETVI=&SWEC=9&SWEM=&SWEBID=-1&SWESPa=&SRN=&SWEContainer=&SWETS=&SWETA=&SWEApplet=ITC+Drivers+Download+TotalDrivers [22:05] Hmm. [22:05] wxl: See something I'm not? [22:06] Otherwise if he doesn't respond soon brunomotter, I'd try #ubuntu. [22:06] so... I tried ubuntu... it works, but REALLY slow performance [22:06] on Lubuntu performance is good but no graphics [22:06] I mean the IRC channel. This isn't a Lubuntu-specific issue. ;) [22:07] oh, I see! [22:07] well... if he does not respond I will try that then... where can I find Ubuntu IRC? [22:08] In your IRC client, type the following: /join #ubuntu [22:08] :) [22:08] nice! [22:08] will try that [22:08] thanks for being so helpful [22:08] You're welcome, let me know how it goes. :D [22:09] ok! [22:09] bye [22:09] o/ [22:12] wxl around? [22:13] bobsmith83: I can help as well. What's up? [22:14] thx. I'm on to next step: $ git clone https://git.code.paulk.fr/libettereboot.git but I get error: [22:14] error: gnutls_handshake() failed” when connecting ... [22:15] Let's see if I can reproduce that. [22:16] found this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/186847/error-gnutls-handshake-failed-when-connecting-to-https-servers#187199 [22:16] I wouldn't do that. [22:17] i didnt want to [22:18] I think it's a server problem, because I can't clone it at all. [22:18] like server down, or someting? [22:18] Could be. [22:19] i c. so, what does git clone do, roughly? [22:20] It takes a remote Git repository hosted on a server somewhere and it pulls all the necessary files that you would need to work with it locally. [22:21] ok, cool. thanks for your help. I will contact paul and c if he has ideas. maybe he's working on it or something. you guys are awesome here. hope you dont mind me keep bugging u with all these questions! [22:22] cheers! [22:22] It's all good, cheers :) [22:39] that's up peeps? [22:39] yooo [22:39] bobsmith83: If you're still around, wxl's here :) [23:10] still around indeed. I got the clone thing rolling. I'm on a thinkpad t60, wifi adaptor must be old and slow, cause its taking a looong time to pull down files... [23:14] still faster than my first machine- commodore64- was soo cool when i could dial up connect to q-link on my 300 baud modem! [23:14] been there done that, though i had a c128 [23:32] !lunix [23:32] LUnix is a Little Unix for your Commodore 64, dust it off and visit https://sourceforge.net/projects/lng/ ! [23:32] Just in case you guys still have them kicking around. [23:34] i wish :( [23:34] that would be fun. but its long gone garage sale, no doubt, probably in the 90's [23:35] Yeah, mine too. [23:35] I did hang onto the 1701 for a TV hooked to the VCR for a long time after [23:36] * genii wanders back to the coffeepot [23:38] got this thinkpenguin usd wifi n dongle. maybe i should plug it in and see if it magically automatically connects and speeds things up? [23:51] worth a shot, bobsmith83