[01:52] <atinypoy> hello, can anyone see me?
[01:53] <atinypoy> hello
[01:53] <Astro7467> @atinypoy
[01:53] <Astro7467> we can see you
[01:53] <atinypoy> Astro7467, Sweet, thanks
[01:54] <atinypoy> Astro, I wanna know how to open the welcome box after I close it
[01:55] <Astro7467> It's in the menu - under system I think if using the default layout
[01:56] <atinypoy> System tools? I don't see it
[01:59] <Astro7467> try ALT-F2 and run 'ubuntu-mate-welcome'
[02:00] <Astro7467> if you have briskmenu or advanced menu turned on yo can also just search for welcome - should show by the time you get to the 'l'
[02:00] <atinypoy> I can't find it on alt-f2
[02:01] <atinypoy> Derp, fond it under system
[02:01] <Astro7467> alt-f2 and type;
[02:01] <Astro7467> ubuntu-mate-welcome
[02:01] <Astro7467> 👍
[02:01] <atinypoy> Thanks for your help, I just swiched from regular Ubuntu
[02:33] <Nathan> G'day all
[02:37] <Nathan> is there a way to send a pdf to astril and print it from the command line?
[02:38] <Nathan> atril*
[02:40] <Astro7467> don't think atril has a command line option to print
[02:40] <Astro7467> but I tthink lp directly supports pdf
[02:40] <Nathan> damn, thanks Astro
[02:40] <Astro7467> can try lp <name>.pdf to send to your defualt printer
[02:42] <Nathan> long story short, I have pdf's with comments on them from adobe reader. Trying to automate some of the printing, some pages are a3 and don't print nicely with the lp command
[02:42] <Astro7467> I just tried it and using the lp command seems to work without issue
[02:42] <Astro7467> ahh
[02:42] <Nathan> only a section of the page gets printed and the comment does get printed
[02:43] <Nathan> if I add the "-o fit-to-page" option, the comment does not get printed for some reason?
[02:44] <Astro7467> many (many) years ago I use to use ghostscript to do lots of manipulation, creation and print of pdf files - maybe worth looking into if you are looking for a permanent solution
[02:45] <Astro7467> other thought is to pre-split the pdf as part of a script and send each page individually so page size variation etc doesn't screw things up
[02:46] <Nathan> ahh nice
[02:47] <Nathan> so somehow query if it is not a4, then make an a4 pdf of it
[02:49] <Astro7467> looking at the man page for lp you can probably force every page to scale to a4 (guessing u are from down under given the original g'day and a4 paper ;-) )
[02:49] <Nathan> yep from the upside down land :)
[02:50] <Nathan> do you know how I can force every page to a4?
[02:50] <Astro7467> I'm from down under down under :)
[02:50] <Nathan> down under down under??
[02:50] <Nathan> Tasmania?
[02:51] <Astro7467> could try lp -o media=a4 <pdf-file>
[02:51] <Astro7467> Tasmania it is
[02:51] <Nathan> nice
[02:52] <Astro7467> check out lpoptions -l also
[02:54] <Nathan> have you got a link to the manpage you're reading?
[02:55] <Astro7467> i am just using 'man lp' on commandline
[02:55] <Nathan> cheers
[02:58] <Nathan> how would I use the lpoptions -l command?
[02:58] <Astro7467> helps by listing the options/values the device supports
[02:59] <Nathan> there is an asterix next to PaperAize/Media Size: *A4
[02:59] <Astro7467> default value
[03:00] <Nathan> but it doesn't fit to page?
[03:01] <Astro7467> look at the print in the GUI side - for exampel my HP and Epson printers under job options have a scale to fit toggle/switch
[03:05] <Nathan> scale to fit enabled in the GUI
[03:05] <Nathan> gonna test it out now
[03:06] <Nathan> ohh no luck
[03:09] <Astro7467> try adding -o fit-to-page
[03:10] <Astro7467> if lp doesn't work, then lpr may - there is also a scaling option - ie -o scaling=100 that may help
[03:16] <Nathan> that's where I get stuck, when I add the -o fit-to-page option. It does scale the page correctly but the comments that are on the pdf don't get printed?
[03:23] <Astro7467> Just been googling - both evince and okular seem to have a print command line option - but from the manpage descriptions it seems it will only bring up the print dialog, not actually process the file - guessing the cups pdf parser isn't supporting the comments properly
[03:25] <Nathan> Thanks. If it wasn't for these comments it would be great
[03:25] <Astro7467> if you have a an advance enough printer it may be possoble to to just stream the pdf directly to the printer using cp if it has a /dev file - or if you know the ip/port using curl or similiar
[03:27] <Nathan> interesting
[03:29] <Astro7467> other tools to that may help - especially if splitting the file helps - is the PDF Toolkit (PDFtk)  - is in std ubuntu universe repos
[03:38] <Nathan> the pdf's are already single files ready to print
[03:38] <Nathan> I don't need to split them up
[03:39] <Nathan> it's a weird one
[03:40] <Nathan> If I use the standard document viewer in Ubuntu MATE it scales fine and the comments are printed :|
[03:40] <Nathan> just can't find a way to do it through the command line
[04:02] <Astro7467> @Nathan - just trying comeing that may get what you want - I can convert pdf to tif with comments preserved using imagemagick -
[04:06] <Nathan> Thanks a lot for all your help Astro7467!
[04:12] <Astro7467> @Nathan imagemagick seems the way to go - though I had problem print tiff file, though jpg works fine - some fine tuning neded tho as the white background is going to black in the producted file - comment though is preserved (per the example provided previously)
[04:13] <Nathan> I had the same issue, unable to print file I think it said for the tif
[04:13] <Nathan> so you would enter: convert "file.pdf" output.jpg
[04:14] <Astro7467> yep - i also added '-background white -fill white' too tho no luck
[04:18] <Astro7467> solution found
[04:18] <Astro7467> convert 'old.pdf' 'fixed.pdf'
[04:19] <Astro7467> prints the comment properly :)
[04:21] <Nathan> what? really?
[04:22] <Astro7467> yep - new pdf is about half the size of the original but the comments must get transformed some how - would not be suprised to find convert maked the orignal pdf a tif inside the pdf
[04:23] <Nathan> thanks mate! I'll give that a shot
[04:23] <Astro7467> 👍
[06:29] <Nathan> that worked pretty good @Astro7467
[06:31] <Nathan> that print quality degraded a little bit, but it's a step in the right direction
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[07:51] <qwererfrrthyty> 17.10 64
[10:53] <installgen2_> Hello. I am running ubuntu mate 16.04 on a rpi 3. I have a 3.5" tft lcd screen. 90% of the applications on the OS go off the screen and I am unable to work with them to configure the device to my liking. I am running a special image just for the touch screen to work, so when I try to connect an HDMI cable I can not get it to display anything other than errors. Suggestions? Advice?
[11:14] <TaZeR> what is that package called that installs the ability to bring up a terminal from the top of the screen like quake game style when you press F11 or whatever?
[13:13] <Blackisle> guake TaZeR
[13:14] <Blackisle> https://github.com/Guake/guake
[14:15] <aptanet> @TaZeR the default in MATE is Tilda
[14:16] <aptanet> I switched to it from Guake after I found it when I installed 17.04
[18:03] <TaZeR> thanks thats what i was looking for :)
[18:44] <TaZeR> i changed the hotkey to ~ so its just like in quake :D
[19:51] <AndrzejL> Evening ;)
[19:57] <TaZeR> hey my dads name is Andrzej!
[19:57] <TaZeR> is that you dad?
[19:58] <AndrzejL> TaZeR: Sorry but no ;)
[19:58] <AndrzejL> Unless one of my ex's from my past has a surprise for me...
[19:58] <woelfie> Evening
[19:59] <TaZeR> tehehe are you looking to adopt a 31 year old boy perhaps?
[19:59] <AndrzejL> Evening :)
[19:59] <TaZeR> i havnt seen my father in many years
[19:59] <AndrzejL> TaZeR: I would have to be very mature at the age of 3 ;D
[19:59] <AndrzejL> oh wait ... 4
[20:00] <AndrzejL> I just turned 36
[20:00] <AndrzejL> To makes things worse my dad's name is Andrzej too ;)
[20:00] <TaZeR> haha big happy Andrzej family
[20:01] <TaZeR> thats my name too!
[20:01] <TaZeR> jk lol
[20:01] <AndrzejL> ;D
[20:02] <AndrzejL> I was going to name my kid Andrzej too but then I've decided that having a kid in today's world is a cruelty and got a vasectomy instead
[20:04] <woelfie> @AndrzejL If that's the true I am sorry for you!
[20:05] <AndrzejL> Its true. World is a weird and crazy place. I dont know where I will be a year from now, never mind 20...  Bringing child into this world full of uncertainty would be just wrong - at least in our (my wife's and mine) case
[20:07] <woelfie> Well I admid that in a few cases your maybe right but I never want to miss my wife and my son.
[20:10] <AndrzejL> I am glad for you.  Honestly. In my case there is a matter of not the greatest genes riddled with some nasty genetic surprises. Trust me. Its better for my genes to not to reproduce.
[20:12] <woelfie> exit
[20:12] <AndrzejL> :) /