[00:31] <capella> You want to route faster than the networks will allow you for the hardware implementation they've also provided?
[00:31] <capella> Or just jump channel up for free?
[00:32] <arooni> where do i control how long the display is on before it goes off
[00:33] <VileGent> powe management or screensaver
[00:33] <arooni> cool; i think it was blank screen after 15 min
[00:33] <arooni> that i changed to never
[00:35] <VileGent> now check your power saving as well
[00:46] <Sven_vB> a shell script shall that I'll use on most of my computers shall guess how long to expect my text editor to load. my desktop PCs and notebooks are fast, my netbooks take a little longer. is there a good *and* easy way to guess whether it's running on a netbook, that's more future proof than hostnames or vendor/model?
[00:47] <Sven_vB> aka can I give my future self a better chance of not having to adapt it to the next netbook?
[00:53] <blkadder> tl;dr Reason #983473 why it is a really, really bad idea to store credentials in plaintext in Github: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-21/uber-concealed-cyberattack-that-exposed-57-million-people-s-data
[00:53] <blkadder> Sorry wrong channel :-)
[01:55] <JoshuaD> What's the easiest/best way to do graphical file sharing over local network with thunar?
[01:58] <t0no6a> JoshuaD : I use smthg like this https://bipedu.wordpress.com/2013/01/15/add-right-click-samba-share-in-thunarxfce-file-manager/
[02:00] <JoshuaD> sweet i'll try it out. thanks
[03:02] <rosa> what would i need to do to make systemd-nspawn think that cgroups hierarchy is not used
[03:22] <tharkun> What is the best way to have a dynamic dns service recognize what ip I have for an ubuntu seerver? What package on the repos should I install?
[04:25] <bilb_ono> whats the thing you have to use for port forwarding? like ssh allow?
[04:25] <bilb_ono> I have it forwarding port 1022 on my router to my machines local ip
[04:26] <bilb_ono> my home computer is refusing connections on port 1022 even though they are being forwarded by my router basically
[04:28] <bilb_ono> I did install openssh-server
[04:31] <jrp93> bilb_ono, you want to use 1022 to ssh?
[04:32] <jrp93> jrp93, you have to manually change it in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:32] <jrp93> bilb_ono *
[04:32] <bilb_ono> jrp93: ah I see
[04:32] <jrp93> 22 by default
[04:41] <rosa> Does ANYONE here know about systemd-nspawn? -_-
[04:42] <mutante> rosa: probably, but people never say "yes" to respond to "does anyone know about X" questions, never seen it a single time
[04:42] <mutante> rosa: try with the more detailed question right away
[04:43] <rosa>  i get Failed to determine whether the unified cgroups hierarchy is used: No medium found
[05:08] <gamertrish> hey guys, im on 1.7.10 and im not getting sound on more then 1 program at a time. is there anyone that can help me figure this out? im awfully new to linux
[05:21] <Toadisattva> I'm getting an error "error: C++ style comments are not allowed in ISO C90" when trying to run a make command after a successful ./configure
[05:21] <Toadisattva> any idea how to fix that?
[05:23] <Toadisattva> lubuntu 16.04
[05:33] <capella> comment #6 sounds helpful https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1191523
[05:49] <Sterist> can someone please walk me through setting up LAN file transfer? 2 Ubuntu pc's on A.A. one amd other i386
[05:51] <Sterist> disregard, turns out I don't have much time. will ask again some time in the next week
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> morning alkisg
[06:12] <alkisg> Good morning lotuspsychje, hi all! :)
[06:13] <alkisg> I just filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1733776. I wonder, is it just me or is that really annoying? :)
[06:14] <aiena> I am on kubuntu 16.04. But the issue I am experiencing is a more generic issue. My xapian databases are not being generate properly causing a kdeinit5 crash. As a result synaptic also crashes. Running update-apt-xapian-index
[06:14] <aiena> crashes with a 'ValueError: could not convert string to int' from python how I resolve this?
[06:14] <aiena> err I mean synaptic also crashes because of the xapian database
[06:15] <aiena> is there a way to cleany regenerate all xapian databases fresh
[06:15] <aiena> not sure how this actually works.
[06:15] <alkisg> aiena: what's using xapian in kde? It's not preinstalled in ubuntu/ubuntu-mate anymore
[06:16] <alkisg> Software center was using it in 14.04, but it's not preinstalled in 16.04 as they switched to gnome-software
[06:16] <aiena> alkisg: I dont know maybe installing synaptic install xapian
[06:16] <alkisg> I have synaptic without xapian
[06:16] <aiena> *installed
[06:16] <alkisg> Try to remove it and see; cancel it of course
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: a screenshot would be nice to that bug
[06:16] <aiena> I dont know what is using it
[06:16] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: good idea
[06:17] <aiena> alkisg: how do I restrict search to installed packages only
[06:17] <alkisg> aiena: apt purge --dry-run --auto-remove apt-xapian-index
[06:18] <aiena> alkisg: ah it is plasma-muon the kubuntu package manager which is not part of KDE by default
[06:18] <aiena> and some plasma-discover too
[06:18] <alkisg> OK, so you do need it
[06:19] <aiena> one minute let me pastebin
[06:19] <alkisg> Nah I was just wondering if you can completely remove it
[06:19] <alkisg> If you want to use plasma-muon, you can't...
[06:21] <aiena> alkisg: http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/69b6fb53
[06:21] <aiena> I dont want plasma-muon I use the terminal for all package management needs
[06:21] <aiena> I wonder why libopencv would use it
[06:22] <alkisg> aiena: there are other things there like software-properties-kde etc, so don't remove it
[06:22] <aiena> and libgles1-mesa
[06:22] <alkisg> What's the exact output of `sudo update-apt-xapian-index` ?
[06:22] <alkisg> libgles etc are just installed in your system without a dependency, and autoremove prompts to remove them
[06:23] <aiena> alkisg: is it bad to run this with sudo -i?
[06:23] <alkisg> I.e. apt purge --dry-run --auto-remove will also show them
[06:23] <alkisg> No, it's fine if you run sudo -i <enter> update-apt-xapian-index
[06:24] <aiena> alkisg: http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/01bb4116
[06:25] <aiena> I ran this command because it was suggested as a fix for synaptic crashing with xapian database error. On further investigation I noticed that kdeinit5 was crashing and it had the xapian lib in the stack trace so I though they are related.
[06:26] <alkisg> aiena: try the suggestions in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-xapian-index/+bug/1021474
[06:26] <alkisg> I.e. deleting a corrupted file there
[06:26] <aiena> alkisg: this isz the kdeinit5 stacktrace http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/32f117d4
[06:26] <alkisg> aiena: or this: sudo update-apt-xapian-index --force
[06:27] <aiena> no -force also gives valueError
[06:27] <alkisg> Or this: sudo update-apt-xapian-index --verbose --force --batch-mode (and if it still crashes paste the output)
[06:27] <aiena> *--force
[06:27] <alkisg> I meant after the first suggestion which you didn't read :D " Try deleting the file and then running update-apt-xapian-index again: $ sudo rm /var/lib/apt-xapian-index/cataloged_times.p"
[06:28] <aiena> yes it is not crashing anymore it is doing some work
[06:29] <aiena> and it seemed to rebuild the index
[06:29] <aiena> thank you
[06:29] <alkisg> If that fixes it, the next question is, "why was that file corrupted? do you have more corrupted things in your installation? "
[06:29] <alkisg> E.g. disk/file system failures...
[06:29] <aiena> hmm no
[06:29] <aiena> not that I know of
[06:30] <aiena> how do I check
[06:30] <alkisg> Try sudo apt install debsums; sudo debsums -s
[06:30] <alkisg> This will at least check things under /usr
[06:30] <luxio> Does anyone have any recommendations for ebook readers on Ubuntu?
[06:32] <aiena> alkisg: ok debsums -s is running it is not giving any output I'll tell you when it completes
[06:33] <alkisg> aiena: if it doesn't produce anything, it's a good sign
[06:33] <aiena> ok so far no output still. Let it complete.
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> !info calibre | luxio
[06:37] <aiena> !info sigil
[06:46] <aiena> alkisg: bad news debsums gave some output
[06:47] <aiena> alkisg: http://paste.opensuse.org/view/raw/bb3ca0ba
[06:48] <aiena> but these are compiled pyc files
[06:48] <aiena> I dont think a package should countain them
[06:48] <alkisg> aiena: no problem there, just bad packaging
[06:48] <aiena> alkisg: thanks
[06:55] <aiena> alkisg: guess something else corrupted the database like a system freeze
[06:55] <aiena> anyway going to relogin and see if kdeinit5 crashes after few seconds
[06:55] <alkisg> Possibly
[07:02] <aiena2> thank you alkisg rebuilding the xapian databases appears to have solved the problem.
[07:03] <alkisg> np
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> would about:config settings be used on a firefox update, or be resetted?
[07:06] <aiena2> I think it would be reused
[07:07] <aiena2> I think it resides in the home dir and not in the root
[07:07] <aiena2> so it would be reused
[07:08] <alkisg> lotuspsychje: reused. They are stored in ~/.mozilla.
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[07:10] <cluelessperson> hey guys, how do I set a host and ip permanently?
[07:13] <ducasse> cluelessperson: please rephrase, what are you trying to achieve?
[07:14] <cluelessperson> ducasse:   When I type "hostname" into the browser, I want it set by like my resolv.conf
[07:14] <cluelessperson> but permanent
[07:15] <ducasse> you can add it to /etc/hosts
[07:15] <BlackDalek> I need help trying to enable WiFi on Acer Aspire L3600. rfkilll list tells me it's hard blocked: yes. There is NO switch for wifi on this type of machine. WiFi card is a Qualcomm Atheros AR9485. Where do I start?
[07:16] <BlackDalek> This is not a laptop.
[07:21] <BlackDalek> bit quiet today... is the weekend already?
[07:21] <BlackDalek> is it*
[07:22] <ducasse> still morning here, it's normally quiet for another hour or two
[07:31] <BlackDalek> ok
[07:33] <BlackDalek> If this stupid Acer computer insists on making ALL WiFi cards I install hard blocked, then will using an external USB WiFi dongle get around the problem or will that just get hard blocked too?
[07:35] <hateball> BlackDalek: it shouldnt be blocked, no
[07:36] <BlackDalek> Do USB Wifi dongles work in Ubuntu?
[07:36] <xcom169> hello all!
[07:38] <xcom169> Can you run Wine normally on 17 10 ubuntu ( w. wayland ) ?
[07:38] <hateball> BlackDalek: Provided the chipset is supported, the kernel doesnt really care if it is USB or PCI or whatever
[07:39] <hateball> xcom169: afaik it should start xwayland
[07:39] <xcom169> hateball: for me it won't work
[07:39] <xcom169> wine just crashes
[07:40] <hateball> I suppose you could ask in ##winehq
[07:40] <hateball> !wine
[07:40] <hateball> #winehq it is, since it is official...
[07:40] <hateball> Personally I use nvidia+plasma so no wayland for me, cant help you test...
[07:41] <xcom169> hateball: Maybe I could
[07:42] <hateball> xcom169: if anything it is more likely to have regular users of wine :)
[07:58] <Neo1> what does message mean dns servercould not be found?
[07:59] <Neo1> I created subdomen on my VPS http://kselax.kselax.ru and can't reach it using ordinary browsers. When I use TOR browser I get site
[08:00] <Neo1> What is the problem?
[08:01] <Neo1> it's in chrome http://prntscr.com/hdnh6b
[08:01] <Neo1> it is in TOR browser http://prntscr.com/hdnhb5
[08:07] <indistylo> I want to install the spotify-client, I added the repo to source list and now having some dependency issues --> https://paste.debian.net/996984/ , How to resolve this?
[08:09] <JFox762> Hi guys, is there a way to change my "desktop switcher" to the quadrant style ?
[08:09] <JFox762> I prefer the Quadrant style to the, listed version that exists.
[08:10] <gluon> JFox762: maybe with some gnome extension, did you search there?
[08:10] <gluon> assuming you're using gnome
[08:12] <JFox762> Im on 17.10 Ubuntu
[08:12] <gluon> okay, gnome 3 then
[08:12] <indistylo> any equivalent of hotspot shield?
[08:14] <gluon> JFox762: search for switcher here: https://extensions.gnome.org/
[08:14] <gluon> and see if there's any extension that does what you want
[08:30] <Erwyn> hello there
[08:30] <Erwyn> I have ubuntu 17.10 and since a few days my internet is not working anymore
[08:30] <Erwyn> I found what it is it's a dns issue
[08:30] <Erwyn> in my resolv.conf I have nameserver 127.0.1.1
[08:31] <Erwyn> if I replace with nameserver 8.8.8.8 everything is fine
[08:31] <Erwyn> I've read it's a dnsmasq thing but got lost there
[08:47] <anddam> ohhh, apropos my yesterday issue about pdfsig built from poppler source on Xenial not finding its libpoppler.so.72, a logout did the trick
[08:47] <anddam> there's a db of libraries ldd need to refresh
[08:47] <anddam> s/$/?/
[08:52] <anddam> ah ldconfig(8)
[09:07] <lesshaste> what does "set to manually installed mean" in texlive-binaries is already the newest version (2015.20160222.37495-1).
[09:07] <lesshaste> texlive-binaries set to manually installed.
[09:09] <alkisg> lesshaste: you install package a which depends on package b, i.e. b gets automatically installed
[09:10] <alkisg> Then if you run `apt purge --auto-remove a`, b will automatically get uninstalled
[09:10] <alkisg> Now suppose you realize that you want b to remain even if you remove a. Then you mark it as manually installed.
[09:11] <alkisg> (by doing apt install b; even if it's already installed, this will mark that you need it unrelated to a)
[09:21] <binaryhermit> would b get removed if you also had package c which depends on b?
[09:21] <binaryhermit> in the scenario above
[09:21] <binaryhermit> err, c was installed
[09:34] <justabloke> hello!
[09:34] <justabloke> every now and then I check back for ubuntu touch OS... a google search is not always favourable, could anyone point it out if this is still an ongoing project? some article says canonical stopped it?
[09:36] <venommdt> I need to install a monitor alert system on ubuntu that can show me data from queries to the mysql db and send me alerts when the system detect any error from the queries, anyone know any system for this?
[09:44] <JFox762> I'm having trouble with my LibreOffice on Ubuntu 17.10. Buttons are not appearing correctly. Refer to linked image here:  https://pasteboard.co/GUNVq2s.png
[09:51] <JFox762> Ahhhhh!!! Nevermind. You have to turn off "Global Dark Theme" in tweaks.
[09:52] <venommdt> Hi, I need to install a monitor alert system on ubuntu that can show me data from queries to the mysql db and send me alerts when the system detect any error from the queries, anyone know any system for this?
[09:54] <hateball> venommdt: anything is possible with for instance nagios or icinga
[10:22] <Erwyn> hello back. So after some checks apparently the dnsmasq that network-manager starts is listening on 127.0.0.53 instead of 127.0.1.1. any idea why? I have nothing in /etc/NetworkManager that specifies it. For that matter I don't have anything in the dnsmasq.d and dnsmasq-shared.d folders in /etc/NetworkManager
[10:23] <akik> Erwyn: it changed in some ubuntu release from 127.0.1.1 to 127.0.0.53
[10:23] <Erwyn> AH
[10:24] <Erwyn> but NetworkManager is still putting 127.0.1.1 in resolv.conf
[10:24] <Erwyn> at least on my machine
[10:24] <alkisg> Erwyn: is this a clean install, or an upgrade?
[10:25] <Erwyn> clean install
[10:25] <Erwyn> from 3 weeks ago I think
[10:25] <alkisg> What is the output of: dpkg -l '*dnsmasq*' | grep ^ii
[10:26] <Erwyn> alkisg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26018797/
[10:26] <alkisg> Erwyn: did you manually install dnsmasq?
[10:27] <alkisg> It's not preinstalled in my 17.10 VM
[10:27] <Erwyn> alkisg: yes in an attempt to fix things, but problem was there before
[10:27] <alkisg> Erwyn: remove it, reboot and let's see again
[10:27] <alkisg> Wait
[10:27] <alkisg> purge, not just remove
[10:27] <Erwyn> apt remove --purge dnsmasq?
[10:27] <alkisg> Right
[10:28] <Erwyn> ok
[10:28] <Erwyn> See you
[10:29] <akik> 17.10 removed dnsmasq?
[10:29] <alkisg> akik: yes, it's using the systemd method for resolving
[10:29] <alkisg> The dnsmasq use was a very bad hack
[10:29]  * alkisg is very glad to see it removed
[10:30] <akik> the only constant thing is change
[10:30] <Erwyn> alkisg: same issue
[10:31] <akik> dnsmasq is nice software. it has many uses
[10:31] <alkisg> Erwyn: ok, let's analyze it. ls -l /etc/resolv.conf
[10:31] <alkisg> cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:31] <alkisg> Result of those?
[10:31] <Erwyn> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 85 nov.  22 11:29 /etc/resolv.conf
[10:31] <alkisg> akik: of course it is, and I was very disappointed when network manager actually blocked its use as a dns server because they were abusing it as a dns resolver
[10:32] <Erwyn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26018831/
[10:32] <alkisg> Erwyn: sudo rm /etc/resolv.conf; sudo ln -rs /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf
[10:32] <Erwyn> (I added the first line to be able to connect here
[10:32] <alkisg> sorry
[10:32] <alkisg> wait
[10:32] <alkisg> Erwyn: sudo rm /etc/resolv.conf; sudo ln -rs /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf
[10:32] <alkisg> That one
[10:32] <alkisg> Resolv conf is supposed to be a symlink
[10:32] <alkisg> Your editor broke it and saved it locally
[10:33] <alkisg> So systemd refused to update it anymore
[10:33] <Erwyn> oh god
[10:33] <Erwyn> maybe I now where this come from then
[10:33] <Erwyn> I have a script to start registrator and consul for docker
[10:33] <alkisg> Make sure it understands symlinks ;)
[10:33] <Erwyn> and this scripts inserts something into /etc/resolv.conf
[10:35] <Erwyn> yep that's it
[10:35] <Erwyn> alkisg: okay thanks, I'll have to change this, thank you very much for the help
[10:35] <alkisg> np
[10:35] <alkisg> Most tools have the ability to edit the symlink contents instead of replacing it with a file, consult their man pages
[10:37] <Erwyn> ok will do
[10:50] <Neo1> I've got host digitalocean and there ubunut
[10:51] <Neo1> and seems only ssh available, Who know how customize server?
[10:51] <Neo1> only use shall and nothing else?
[10:52] <Neo1> this site offer VPS for 5$ and impossible there install any site https://www.digitalocean.com
[10:54] <Neo1> I want change server, on my current VPS the server response is very slow with default set up wordpress from box, it's 0.4 - 0.5 seconds, should have been no more 0.2 s
[10:55] <Neo1> from what depends response speed? I think it's my server is broken, want install to degitalocean test naked wp site and compare the server response.
[10:56] <ZSky> Hi!
[10:56] <ZSky> On a 14.04 LTS, when doing cat /etc/debian_version
[10:56] <ZSky> I get: jessie/sid
[10:57] <ZSky> How is this possible? Jessie was released in April 2015, how can a 14.04 be based on jessie?
[10:59] <ne2k> any suggestions on the nicest/cleanest way to add gretap tunnels and bridge them to a bridge on ubuntu, i.e. ifupdown /etc/network/interfaces
[11:00] <alkisg> ZSky: https://askubuntu.com/questions/151698/which-version-of-debian-are-ubuntu-lts-releases-based-on
[11:00] <alkisg> ZSky: short explanation, "lts releases are based on debian testing"
[11:00] <alkisg> Not on debian stable.
[11:01] <tomreyn> 'sid' would be debian unstable, however
[11:01] <alkisg> tomreyn: the next answer there, "This appears to have changed recently per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS: "Starting with the 14.04 LTS development cycle, automatic full package import is performed from Debian unstable""
[11:01] <tomreyn> oh, i didnt read that page, sorry
[11:02] <ZSky> alkisg: so 14.04 is based on jessie testing?
[11:02] <alkisg> ZSky: actually, on jessie unstable...
[11:03] <tomreyn> jessie / sid, so jessie unstable
[11:03] <ZSky> alkisg: then 14.04 *should* feature systemd, right?
[11:03] <ZSky> but it doesn't
[11:03] <ZSky> it still uses sysvinit
[11:03] <ZSky> why?
[11:03] <alkisg> ZSky: not all package imports are automatic. Big packages like kernel, xorg, systemd versions are decided by the ubuntu team
[11:04] <alkisg> It depends on their level of stability at the time of the lts release
[11:04] <alkisg> Or, at the expected efforts for 5 year maintenance
[11:04] <ZSky> alkisg: so at the time of 14.04 LTS, they decided not to include systemd?
[11:05] <alkisg> If it doesn't have systemd, yes. I haven't checked 14.04 recently.
[11:05] <tomreyn> also i'm not sure whether systemd was the default init system at merge time when jessie was still unstable.
[11:06] <alexas> trying to format partition (usb flash drive) got the following error 'error formatting volume' This partition cannot be modified because it contains a partition table; please reitialize layout of the whole device. (udiskserror-quark, 11)
[11:06] <alexas> what does it mean reinitialize layout of the whole device?
[11:07] <tomreyn> alexas: i'm not sure why this (unknown?) application provides this message, but the message probably means to suggest that you should consider creating a new aprtition table on the target device
[11:07] <tomreyn> *partition
[11:08] <tomreyn> providing more context may help you get a better response
[11:08] <alexas> tomreyn: right, thank you.
[11:09] <alexas> tomreyn: well i need to flash drive to install clonezilla on it, i need it in fat32, it is ubuntu live usb drive
[11:10] <tomreyn> just download a clonezilla live iso and write it to the usb storage (if you don't mind removing all the data stored there)
[11:10] <alexas> tomreyn: without formating it, you mean?
[11:11] <tomreyn> yes
[11:11] <alexas> tomreyn: I downloaded a .zip package for usb drive already
[11:12] <tomreyn> you're doing this on ubuntu, right?
[11:14] <alexas> tomreyn: yes
[11:15] <tomreyn> alexas: so i guess you're apparently following method "GNU/Linux Method B: Manual" here http://clonezilla.org/liveusb.php
[11:15] <yuii> hi
[11:16] <tomreyn> alexas: this also suggests to create a new partition table unless you already have a suiotable FAT or NTFS partition on your thumb drive.
[11:16] <yuii> i got this error
[11:16] <tomreyn> !root | yuii
[11:16] <yuii> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26019138/ during zabbix agent installation
[11:16] <yuii> how to fix it ?
[11:16] <tatertotz> if the system is configured with a non US/english local, is there a way to have stout be in US/english?
[11:17] <tomreyn> yuii: sorry, please ignore ubottu fo rnow.
[11:18] <tomreyn> !rootirc | yuii
[11:18] <tomreyn> yuii: ^ stop ignoring ubottu now ;)
[11:19] <alexas> yes tomreyn  i was trying to follow that manual but i am unable to format my drive due to the error i posted earlier
[11:19] <tomreyn> yuii: you seem to ask a debian related question on #ubuntu
[11:20] <tomreyn> alexas: what's the application reporting this error message?
[11:20] <alexas> disks app on ubuntu 17.10
[11:22] <tomreyn> alexas: have you tried this (i know there is no more dash but you'll find your way to the 'disks' app, i guess)? https://askubuntu.com/questions/769079/cant-format-ubuntu-installation-stick
[11:24] <alexas> ah i forget about gparted app, right right
[11:24] <alexas> but it gives an error as well..
[11:25] <tomreyn> alexas: okay, let's do it on a temrinal. look at the output of 'lsblk -o +model' and identify your USB thump drives' device name (first table column)
[11:27] <tomreyn> it will be sdX where X is in {a..z}
[11:28] <alexas> tomreyn: ok i rebooted machine and did the same operation successfully, thanks
[11:28] <tomreyn> alexas: so you'Re all set?
[11:28] <rawruw> why isn't su working?
[11:29] <tomreyn> rawruw: what makes you think it doesn't work?
[11:29] <tomreyn> (and how do you expect ti to work)
[11:30] <alexas> tomreyn: yes I think so, I use UNetbootin to install it into the flash drive now
[11:30] <tomreyn> alexas: okay, that's an entirely different approach, but can also work.
[11:35] <alexas> tomreyn: thanks for ytr your assistance, my goal was to format the drive
[11:38] <madghost> hello all
[11:38] <grandfso> Hello everyone, what is the default desktop in 17.04 ? I did hear this was going to be gnome, but looks like unity ?
[11:39] <tomreyn> alexas: on a side note, 'formatting' is really a process which refers to flexible and not so flexible 5.25 and 1.44 inch floppy disks. nowadays, what you do is more adequately described as creating a file system on a block device (which can be a raw disk, a partition, a logical volume, a mapped block device etc.)
[11:39] <tomreyn> (also 8 and 3.5 in)
[11:40] <tomreyn> grandfso: it's gonme looking like unity
[11:40] <madghost> Ubuntu 14.04.4 ping is working, ping ya.ru and so on, but I can't connect any other services, ftp, ssh and so on. What I can see or do that fix it ?
[11:41] <madghost> there is other computer in this network, and I'm having Internet, but ubuntu can't connect instead of PING :(
[11:41] <ChaiTRex> madghost: Are you connected to IRC using that Ubuntu 14.04 machine?
[11:42] <madghost> no, windows, from this network
[11:42] <ChaiTRex> madghost: Can the 14.04 machine connect to other machines than ya.ru?
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:42] <grandfso> tomreyn: thanks :) It seemed speedier than unity :)
[11:42] <tomreyn> madghost: try setting upa TCP connection to one of these other services, e.g. echo -e "^D" | nc -vv archive.ubuntu.com 21
[11:42] <madghost> ChaiTRex: yes
[11:43] <madghost> ping google.com and other sites are working
[11:43] <madghost> apt-get update doesn't work, I can't install anything
[11:44] <ChaiTRex> madghost: Does web browsing work?
[11:44] <tomreyn> madghost: ping is an ICMP protocols. if, for example, you're on a wireless LAN with a captive portal, you may not be eble to do much other than that.
[11:44] <madghost> ChaiTRex: this is server only with console, without GUI
[11:45] <madghost> tomreyn: not through captive portal, clear Internet thru ZyXEL router
[11:45] <madghost> with cable connect to router
[11:45] <ChaiTRex> madghost: You can use `telnet google.com 80`, then type `GET / HTTP/1.0` and press Enter twice. See if you get HTML back.
[11:46] <madghost> echo -e "^D" | nc -vv archive.ubuntu.com 21 is silent :(
[11:46]  * tomreyn has seen people getting instantly hit by flashes when mentioning 'telnet'
[11:46] <ChaiTRex> Well, you wouldn't want to use SSH :)
[11:46] <madghost> ChaiTRex: just: Trying 64.233.165.101...
[11:47] <madghost> but ping is: 64 bytes from lg-in-f101.1e100.net (64.233.165.101): icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=39.4 ms
[11:47] <tomreyn> ChaiTRex: so you can resolve hostnames (DNS / nameserver works) and you can ping hosts, but you cannot setup TCP connections to FTP ports.
[11:48] <ChaiTRex> madghost: Have you configured iptables or ufw recently?
[11:48] <tomreyn> ChaiTRex: sounds like you're behind a restrictive firewall then
[11:48] <madghost> and I can't reboot my computer :((((((
[11:48] <ChaiTRex> tomreyn: It's madghost with the issues :)
[11:48] <aiena2> HUH
[11:48] <tomreyn> ChaiTRex: oops sorry
[11:48] <tomreyn> madghost: is the power button greyed out?
[11:49] <madghost> hm
[11:49] <aiena2> Try "ctrl + alt + f1" login with your usename and password and then go to a root terminal and run 'shutdown -r now"
[11:49] <madghost> maybe yes
[11:49] <ChaiTRex> madghost: Yes to what?
[11:50] <aiena2> madghost: Is IRC working from the ubuntu 14?
[11:50] <madghost> yes ))))))))
[11:50] <madghost> my god :) yes, thank you!!!!!!!!
[11:50] <madghost> I forget about it :)
[11:50] <tomreyn> madghost: so far we have established that you can resolve hostnames (DNS / nameserver works) and you can ping hosts, but you cannot setup TCP connections to FTP ports. and that "I can't reboot my computer :(((((("
[11:50] <madghost> telnet google.com working )
[11:50] <ChaiTRex> tomreyn: Also, they tried to connect to google.com via HTTP.
[11:50] <aiena2> madghost:  so it was iptavles>
[11:51] <aiena2> iptables?
[11:51] <madghost> apte-get update is working :-) WOW I'm happy, thanks a lot!!!!
[11:51] <madghost> aiena2: yes )
[11:51] <aiena2> ok cool :)
[11:51] <ChaiTRex> madghost: If it just fixed on its own, it's probably a modem or ISP hiccup.
[11:51] <tomreyn> ChaiTRex: right, i missed that
[11:52] <madghost> I had rule which go all packets to corporate network
[11:52] <ChaiTRex> madghost: Ahh :)
[11:52] <madghost> it's my fault :((((
[11:52] <madghost> old man, old brain :(
[11:56] <tomreyn> you can always invest into a co-processor. 80387 anyone?
[11:58] <liefer> I have a computer with a dedicated GPU and an intel CPU with iGPU. Everything works when i have my monitor connected to the dedicated GPU, but when i connect it to iGPU i only see the startup terminal messages - the login screen never shows. How do i fix this?
[11:59] <liefer> under "Software and updates" -> "additional drivers" its detected and set to use "using processor microcode firmware"
[12:53] <tatertotz> liefer: open terminal
[13:06] <liefer> tatertotz, hmm?
[13:19] <liefer> tatertotz, and then? :P
[13:29] <fishcooker> anyone here using copy paste clipboard list apps like clipman or like klipper on kde, bazhang
[13:46] <pos> Most efficient way of preventing ubuntu from autoloading/importing zfs pools at boot?
[14:11] <brym> afternoon all
[14:12] <brym> just upgraded my netbook to 17.10. but selected lightdm during the upgrade (from 16.04.3). any way to try the new gdm display manager?
[14:13] <sruli> how do i connect with virt-manager using specified ssh-key? "virt-manager -c qemu+ssh://root@mydomain:port/system" where and how can i specify the /path/to/key
[14:17] <ducasse> brym: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm'
[14:20] <brym> ducasse: aha, many thanks. i was trying to reconfigure gdm from lightdm.
[14:21] <liefer> Anyone care to take a look at why i cannot boot 17.10 using the iGPU of 8700k? https://askubuntu.com/questions/979162/17-10-intel-uhd-630-8700k-unable-to-boot
[14:23] <oerheks> liefer, use 'nomodeset' > https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45227045/ubuntu-14-04-with-kaby-lake-intel-hd-630
[14:23] <oerheks> !nomodeset
[14:23] <oerheks> but this might limit the use of multi monitors
[14:24] <oerheks> after install, install intel-microcode from the driver menu
[14:24] <liefer> intel-microcode should be installed
[14:24] <liefer> but as i write the device is listed as UNKNOWN which i find kind of odd.... maybe its ok
[14:25] <liefer> ill try nomodeset hang on
[14:27] <tomreyn> possibly related? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103331
[14:27] <akik> nomodeset and intel graphics didn't work for me
[14:28] <akik> xorg wasn't able to use it
[14:28] <tomreyn> based on https://ark.intel.com/products/126684/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-Processor-12M-Cache-up-to-4_70-GHz the GPU should be device id 8086:3e92, can you verify this?
[14:28] <tomreyn> liefer: ^
[14:29] <liefer> tomreyn, sec, i pasted info from xorg.log in my askubuntu question
[14:29] <liefer> ill check
[14:29] <tomreyn> also run this: sudo update-pciids
[14:29] <tomreyn> (might help with the 'UNKNOWN')
[14:30] <liefer> how can i see the device id? It doesnt seem to appear in 'lspci'
[14:30] <tomreyn> lspci -nn | grep VGA
[14:31] <liefer> yeah its 8086:3e92
[14:31] <tomreyn> so run: sudo update-pciids; lspci -nn | grep VGA    # and see whether the lspci output changed
[14:32] <liefer> aah i ran the update-pciids before checking the device id :S
[14:32] <liefer> cant tell if it changed
[14:33] <tomreyn> what does 'ubuntu-drivers devices' output now?
[14:35] <liefer> it has 5 lines for the nvidia card (modalias, vendor, model, driver, driver) and 1 for the igpu: == cpu-microcode.py == driver : intel-mimcrocode - distro non-free
[14:35] <tomreyn> okay, so i guess it's no longer unknown
[14:36] <tomreyn> maybe try the i915.alpha_support=1 boot param, too
[14:37] <tomreyn> actually post dmesg + Xorg.*.log  from a non-modified (no extra boot params) boot first of all.
[14:38] <liefer> gotcha, saved both
[14:38] <liefer> will try the nomodeset and post them afterwards
[14:39] <liefer> im pretty sure i tried the alpha_support earlier with no luck, but ill give it another go
[14:39] <Dishonored> hello, guys i recently installed a font, and opened leafpad(text editor) and tried changing a text to that font using font warp, its shows correctly in the preview but doesn't work in the actual text. i also tried the font on gimp it doesn't work.
[14:40] <tomreyn> with a 4.14.0 kernel i suspect the alpha option would have no effect with this hardware.
[14:40] <liefer> oh shit X started \o/
[14:40] <liefer> with terrible resolution though lol
[14:41] <Dishonored> and the problem is only when i paste the text and not while typing.
[14:41] <liefer> hmm the device still shows up as UNKNOWN and i dont have any other resolutions to chose from under "display" :S
[14:43] <liefer> okay.... removed nomodeset and it still starts X
[14:43] <liefer> with proper resolution
[14:44] <tomreyn> liefer: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=coffee-uhd-graphics states "When booting the Ubuntu 17.10 stock kernel with i915.alpha_support=1, 4K was working, OpenGL acceleration present, and Vulkan also working"
[14:44] <liefer> yeah i saw that one, which is where i got the i915.alpha boot option from
[14:45] <tomreyn> so what's different between starting without nomodeset now and previous boots?
[14:46] <tomreyn> probably just the updated pciids
[14:46] <akik> liefer: it uses the vesa driver now
[14:46] <oerheks> maybe intel-microcode dit the thing?
[14:46] <oerheks> c/did
[14:46] <liefer> updated pciids and the alpha boot param yeah
[14:47] <liefer> ill try without the alpha boot
[14:47] <tomreyn> oh you used the alpha booot param now, i wasnt aware
[14:47] <liefer> akik, hmm?
[14:48] <akik> liefer: when you use nomodeset with intel graphics, it'll use the vesa driver. look into /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:48] <liefer> tomreyn, still works without the alpha boot param
[14:48] <liefer> akik, ah right, gotcha
[14:48] <liefer> but im not using nomodeset anymore
[14:48] <liefer> seems like updating the pciids did the trick
[14:49] <liefer> at least on kernel 4.14.1
[14:49] <tomreyn> my understanding was that the ucode was already installed and the system had been rebooted before we started looking into this, so if that assumption is correct (can you confirm, liefer?) that leaves us with just the the update-pciids as an explanation
[14:49] <liefer> intel-microcode was already installed yeah
[14:50] <tomreyn> and you had rebooted after installing it?
[14:50] <liefer> yes
[14:50] <liefer> im pretty sure it was actually installed during installation of ubuntu
[14:51] <tomreyn> yes, probably. thanks. i suggest to update the askubuntu.com post then with what we learnt.
[14:51] <liefer> im tempted to do a re-install, staying on the stock kernel and updating pciids
[14:51] <liefer> not entirely sure i understand the consequences of running 4.14.1 that was manually installed
[14:51] <tomreyn> you can downgrade the kernel
[14:52] <tomreyn> in fact you probably still have the stock kernel installed and just need to remove the manually installed one
[14:52] <liefer> how? :) when i update grub it looks like i still have the old kernel
[14:52] <tomreyn> how did you install the newer kernel?
[14:53] <liefer> got the deb files from the ubuntu repository
[14:53] <liefer> yeah, from here: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[14:54] <liefer> guess i can just uninstall them
[14:54] <tomreyn> so identify the relevant packages using "dpkg -l 'linux*' | grep ^i' and sudo dpkg --purge them
[14:55] <tomreyn> or better "sudo apt purge <package1> <package2 <...>"
[14:58] <tomreyn> whenever i run into this http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ url i get annpyed by the misnomer that "kernel-ppa" is, since this is not a PPA.
[14:59] <liefer> ok so the stock kernel is no good with updated pciids and no boot params
[14:59] <tomreyn> liefer: try trhat witht he alpha option
[14:59] <liefer> working on it :)
[15:04] <liefer> that works \o/
[15:04] <liefer> so i guess i was only missing the updated pciids earlier
[15:04] <liefer> very cool, thank you so much
[15:05] <liefer> ill update my askubuntu question
[15:08] <jaime_miro> Hello everyone, anyone using 17.10?
[15:10] <leftyfb> jaime_miro: think about that question for a minute
[15:10] <Inspiral> j #apache
[15:10] <Inspiral> err that should have had a /
[15:11] <jaime_miro> Enlighten me more!
[15:11] <jaime_miro> 18.__?
[15:12] <pavlos> jaime_miro: many use 17.10
[15:12] <jaime_miro> Do you guys like that partial Gnome desktop environment?
[15:13] <pavlos> !chat
[15:13] <oerheks> jaime_miro, wrong channel for polling, this is ubuntu technical support
[15:13] <leftyfb> jiaming: do you have a support question?
[15:16] <GizmoRomick> I'm trying to get Nvidia-304 to work on an inspiron E1505, can anybody help me?
[15:17] <leftyfb> GizmoRomick: what version of ubuntu what have you tried? what issue/errors are you getting?
[15:18] <oerheks> inspiron E1505, comes with Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 500 ??
[15:19] <GizmoRomick> leftyfb: its in Xubuntu 16.04.  I tried installing the drivers using the additional drivers tool.  When I lsmod, I don't see the nvidia drivers running, and when I modprobe nvidia it says: modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'nvidia_304':Input/Output error
[15:22] <GizmoRomick> I want the computer to run as fast as possible when I give it back to my friend.   However, I am beggining to wonder if it would just be better running nouveau.
[15:23] <pavlos> GizmoRomick: sudo lshw -c display should list the nvidia card and the driver
[15:24] <donofrio> anyone here gotten successful sharepoint 2013 login ablity on ubuntu using chromium/firefox?
[15:25] <pavlos> GizmoRomick: also dpkg -l | grep nvidia should list the nvidia packages installed
[15:26] <GizmoRomick> pavlos: paste.ubuntu.com/26020786/
[15:27] <GizmoRomick> pavlos: I guess I should clarify that my problem is I can't select a resolution high enough to match the monitor's native resolution
[15:27] <ioria> GizmoRomick, 304 + 361 ?
[15:28] <GizmoRomick> ioria: I'm not sure about that, but isn't that just the nvidia-settings?
[15:29] <pavlos> GizmoRomick: the dpkg shows i386 but you should be running 64bits (amd64)
[15:30] <ioria> GizmoRomick, i'd purge it all and start over ...  and  have you installed ubuntu 32 bit ?
[15:30] <ioria> GizmoRomick, uname -a
[15:31] <GizmoRomick> ioria: paste.ubuntu.com/26020805/
[15:31] <ioria> GizmoRomick,  why ?
[15:31] <GizmoRomick> ioria: I can check, but I am sure this is a i386 only processor
[15:31] <ioria> GizmoRomick,  cat /proc/cpuinfo
[15:32] <GizmoRomick> ioria: paste.ubuntu.com/26020809
[15:36] <ioria> GizmoRomick,  yes 32 ....  uname -p   what gives you ?
[15:38] <pavlos> GizmoRomick: also, "getconf LONG_BIT" will give 32 or 64 depending on arch
[15:39] <ioria> Core Duo  should be 32 and Core 2 Duo  64
[15:41] <Neo3> I've installed ubuntu alongside windows
[15:41] <GizmoRomick> ioria: sorry, went away there for a sec
[15:41] <ioria> GizmoRomick,    uname -p
[15:42] <GizmoRomick> ioria: i686
[15:42] <ioria> GizmoRomick,    getconf LONG_BIT
[15:42] <Neo3> want customize it as real server that will accessible over internet, What form is getting start?
[15:42] <GizmoRomick> ioria: 32
[15:42] <ioria> GizmoRomick,    ok, you're 32 bit
[15:43] <ioria> GizmoRomick,    what was wrong with nouveau ? (before you installed nvidia)
[15:43] <Neo3> it's cool, two OS, but I want reinstall it, Who have two OS on computer?
[15:44] <GizmoRomick> ioria: I was trying to get the best performance I can from such an old computer.  I understand that nouveau has a fraction of the performance of nvidia.  However, I am starting to wonder if the proprietary drivers are worth it.  What do you think?
[15:44] <Neo3> I don't know how there install app, Ubuntu has storage for app, there isn't as in windows load apps from internet
[15:44] <ioria> GizmoRomick,    try this:   sudo apt purge nvidia*      (note the *) and reboot
[15:45] <Neo3> I checked localhost and this is unavailable
[15:45] <ioria> GizmoRomick,   and sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:46] <brym> Neo3: if i understand you correctly, you want to know what applications are available for ubuntu, and where you can find them?
[15:46] <Neo3> brym: in ubuntu storage, but it's not work correctly now
[15:47] <allure> guys, filebeat... how can I exclude .tgz files from a filebeat prospector? :)
[15:47] <Neo3> brym: I want reinstall ubuntu, I used unetbootin for create boot flash, and on flash were other files
[15:47] <allure> I want to add /var/log/*/* but not .tgz files from logrotate
[15:47] <allure> any ideas? :D
[15:48] <Neo3> brym: do you use ubuntu as desktop?
[15:48] <brym> Neo3: yes
[15:48] <Neo3> brym: here not exist nessasary application, I need app for make screenshots, sublime text 3, chrome, WEB server
[15:49] <Neo3> brym: ok, I try now set there irc chat and app for screenshot
[15:49] <brym> Neo3: you can install all of those.
[15:49] <Neo3> I'll try to join from ubuntu now, wait
[15:52] <pavlos> allure: https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/beats/filebeat/current/configuration-filebeat-options.html
[15:58] <pizzaburger> Hey! How do I properly edit NetworkManager.conf? I tried running "gksudo xed etc/NetworkManager.conf", it opens with elevated privileges but empty. Thanks!
[15:58] <GizmoRomick> ioria: sorry, channel decided my nick was already used.  Couldn't I just use additional drivers to enable nouveau again?
[15:59] <ioria> GizmoRomick,   if you want...
[16:03] <alkisg> pizzaburger: wrong path, it's /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
[16:04] <GizmoRomick> ioria: ok, I'll try it after work.  If nouveau will provide enough performance for them to do what they want, I'll just stick with that
[16:05] <pizzaburger> alkisg: Yes, sorry, typed it wrong in the chat. "gksudo xed etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf" and it gives me a blank document
[16:07] <alkisg> pizzaburger: again, wrong path, you forget the initial /
[16:07] <alkisg> pizzaburger: use tab to autocomplete file names in the console
[16:09] <NoCode> Anyone know how I can get librtaudio to support JACK in Ubuntu 16.04
[16:09] <pizzaburger> alkisg: Thank you!
[16:10] <alkisg> np
[16:11] <TJ-> pizzaburger: Hiya. Did you manage to unlock the encrypted $HOME ?
[16:13] <pizzaburger> TJ-: Hi! No, I haven't touched anything since you mentioned not to without your supervision in one of the memos
[16:13] <ioria> GizmoRomick, ok
[16:14] <ioria> GizmoRomick, i'd also consider a lighter version than unity
[16:22] <tharkun> What is the best way to have a dynamic dns service recognize what ip I have for an ubuntu seerver? What package on the repos should I install?
[16:24] <akik> tharkun: most of those services have an http api which you can use to update your ip from a cron job for example
[16:24] <leftyfb> tharkun: in 11 hours you couldn't find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS ?
[16:26] <tharkun> leftyfb: I've been offline for that amount of time and I ran out of data on my cell phone. But thanks for the time lapse reproach.
[16:26] <pavlos> tharkun: curl ipinfo.io/ip
[16:26] <TJ-> pizzaburger: OK... well I'm about ready; probably best if I take you through a practice run with another user account so you are familiar with what is going on before you use the script on your real user's encrypted home
[16:28] <tharkun> pavlos: Thanks handy oneliner.
[16:32] <Thedarkb> The Irish repo is down.
[16:33] <Thedarkb> Nvm
[16:33] <Thedarkb> Came back up a minute ago.
[16:41] <Thedarkb> Well, somethings up.
[16:42] <Thedarkb> I'm trying to install GParted but it hangs at...
[16:42] <Thedarkb> Looks like that's back up too.
[16:51] <IloF_> hi I need to install the package libgmp3c2 in ubuntu 14.04 but I don't find it. Is there any way to locate it?
[16:52] <IloF_> I don't know where else to look
[16:53] <ioria> !info  libgmp3c2 precise
[16:53] <ioria> IloF_, old lib ...
[16:55] <ioria> IloF_,  maybe you can get the source from the precise old-release  repo and build
[17:08] <oerheks> https://pkgs.org/download/libgmp3c2
[17:11] <zamba> can someone please for the love of god provide a way to actually perform automatic security updates and at the same time have a separate /boot partition?
[17:11] <zamba> i'm tired of having to clean up from a filled /boot
[17:11] <zamba> this happens all too often
[17:12] <oerheks> as of 17.04, ubuntu uses 1 partition for all, including swap file instead of partition, so your boot never runs out of space, unless the total space is limited
[17:13] <zamba> yeah, but i'm not on 17.04
[17:13] <zamba> as that is not LTS
[17:14] <zamba> *sigh*
[17:14] <zamba> this happens on ALL my systems
[17:14] <oerheks> perform autoremove more often?
[17:14] <auronandace> zamba: any reason you really need a separate /boot?
[17:14] <zamba> auronandace: LVM
[17:15] <zamba> oerheks: i thought unattended-upgrades was supposed to fix this?
[17:16] <oerheks> zamba, nope, but you can run a script after apt https://askubuntu.com/questions/203256/set-a-script-to-run-automatically-after-apt-get-dist-upgrade-install-remove-an
[17:19] <oerheks> hmmm i find this too
[17:19] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels#Configure_Unattended_Upgrades_to_Remove_Unneeded_Kernels_Automatically
[17:19] <oerheks> Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "true";
[17:21] <zamba> oerheks: but the problem is that it only removes the older kernels before the one you're currently running
[17:21] <zamba> oerheks: automatic security updates will install lots of new kernels, but you generally won't boot into them
[17:21] <oerheks> zamba, so? you need the new + previous one, to boot in recovery
[17:22] <oerheks> autoremove removes but 2 kernels
[17:22] <oerheks> LVM got place for 5 kernels AFAIK
[17:28] <TJ->  zamba LVM doesn't infer needing a separate /boot/ - GRUB has an LVM module
[17:43] <Darkon> Hi all, my Situation: installed ubuntu-server 16.04 setup xserver and i3wm using startx, now i installed or wanna install nvidia-38x. First question: how can i get the driver without lightdm or better what is that huge dep-list for? any resources are welcome. Second Question(probably wrong channel): after installing the full nvidia-38x my system freezes after lightdm login or (lightdm disabled) startx drops back to shell (xorg
[17:43] <Darkon> crash). any advice?
[17:44] <oerheks> sudo service lightdm start/stop/restart, startx is depreciated
[17:46] <Mathisen> startx depreciated ? no more xorg-xinit ?
[17:47] <pizzaBurger> TJ-: alright, I'm ready whenever you are!
[17:49] <Darkon> even if depreciated, as i said i can start and stop lightdm but why the hell is it and dependency of my graphics driver and still there is the problem with the freeze
[17:51] <TJ-> pizzaBurger: let me grab a coffee!
[17:53] <akik> what does deprecating startx mean anyway? it still works
[17:53] <Mathisen> yeah i want to know that also
[17:53] <Darkon> works absolutly fine for me just not after installing nvidia drivers
[17:56] <TJ-> pizzaBurger: start off by fetching the latest script; "wget http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/ecryptfs-regenerate-wrapper_signatures_mount_test"
[17:57] <TJ-> pizzaBurger: probably best to use a separate channel for this else we'll get confused by other threads of conversation. do /join #ecryptfs-fixup
[17:58] <zamba> TJ-: that's kind of besides the point here
[18:00] <mopolre> hi, is there a way to open nano from the CLI in a NEW window please ?
[18:01] <akik> mopolre: it's usually "terminal -e nano" (replace with your terminal)
[18:04] <mopolre> @akik thank you akik. Seems like mine is xfce4-terminal
[18:05] <mopolre> (I'm a total beginner; so I ask this kind of things)
[18:06] <mopolre> I type this : xfce4-terminal -e nano /etc/apache2/sites-available/example.com.conf
[18:07] <mopolre> And I got this error : xfce4-terminal: Unknown option "/etc/apache2/sites-available/example.com.conf"
[18:08] <mopolre> it worked with this  xfce4-terminal -e "nano /etc/apache2/sites-available/example.com.conf"
[18:08] <mopolre> thanks anyway
[18:08] <oerheks> good find
[18:09] <mopolre> bad tendency to ask before trying :/
[18:31] <PCatinean> I managed to use this to return a list of directories spaced by a space instead of newline find ./ -maxdepth 1 -type d | sed ':a;N;$!ba;s/\n/ /g'
[18:31] <PCatinean> If I have a environment variable that has a string with multiple directories that should be excludede from the search, how do I pass that?
[18:33] <tharkun> depreciated != deprecated
[18:35] <Darkon> @tharkun true thanks
[18:44] <akik> tharkun: so is there some council who depreciate applications?
[18:53] <alexas> was trying to clone ubuntu with clonezilla but got some error during verification process, now can't find where the log is stored, anyone can help me with finding it to debug the issue?
[18:58] <alexas> i also have some [error] flashing during Ubuntu boot but it's too fast that I can't see what is there, I would like to know it seems that it is related to my SSD, where it is stored in the system?
[18:58] <kostkon> alexas, you system logs reside in /var/log
[18:59] <alexas> which one too look at?
[18:59] <alexas> to*
[19:00] <EriC^^> syslog
[19:01] <alexas> what specifically should iI search there for?
[19:03] <Darkon> the error tag
[19:03] <Bashing-om> alexas: systemd ? ' journalctl -b -0 ' shows messages from the current boot .
[19:03] <kostkon> alexas, you can also query the systemd journal with journalctl.  man journalctl for more info
[19:03] <EriC^^> sudo grep -iC4  error /var/log/syslog
[19:06] <alexas> apparently that particular message is not there...
[19:07] <alexas> although there are many errors..
[19:07] <EriC^^> alexas: try /var/log/boot.log
[19:07] <EriC^^> alexas: try Bashing-om 's command
[19:11] <alexas> what is Bashing-om?
[19:11] <EriC^^> i think he's a human
[19:11] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Lately I am questioning that posit :)
[19:12] <EriC^^> j/k, he gave you a command earlier scroll up and try it
[19:12] <alexas> ah sorry missed it
[19:13] <alexas> no disrepect Bashing-om
[19:13] <Bashing-om> alexas: :) - do what I can to help .
[19:14] <alexas> Bashing-om: your command is either return a prompt for new line or if I end it with ' bash says Excess arguments, can you help me by telling me how to execute it, please?
[19:15] <Bashing-om> alexas: Show us what the relese is ' uname -r ' . systemd/upstart makes a difference ,
[19:16] <alexas> Bashing-om: 4.14.0-041400rc8-generic
[19:17] <EriC^^> alexas: run it without any quotes, just journal.....
[19:19] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic xenial | alexas
[19:19] <alexas> EriC^^: can you remind me please how can I redirect the output of that to something like pastebin again?
[19:20] <EriC^^> alexas: command | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:20] <Bashing-om> alexas: ^^ what results when you boot  a mainline kernel ?
[19:21] <alexas> Bashing-om: EriC^^ here's journal http://termbin.com/hzsn
[19:21] <alexas> please let me know if you see any anomalities there
[19:21] <Bashing-om> alexas: K -
[19:22] <alexas> Bashing-om: sorry what?
[19:25] <leftyfb> !package python-openssl
[19:25] <leftyfb> !version python-openssl
[19:25] <leftyfb> bah
[19:25] <Bashing-om> alexas: The "k" is an acknowledgement that I seen what you wrote . // " ACPI: EC: interrupt blockedACPI: EC: interrupt blocked" hold this thought .
[19:26] <alexas> Bashing-om: that what I thought you said but just want to clarify, thanks =)
[19:27] <Bashing-om> alexas: "  Used as boot DSDT EC to handle transactions" .. is this a laptop ? and which one if it is a laptop machine ?
[19:27] <EriC^^> !info python-openssl | leftyfb
[19:28] <leftyfb> thanks
[19:28] <leftyfb> though for some reason I'm not able to backport it
[19:29] <leftyfb> oh wait, think I got it
[19:29] <leftyfb> nope
[19:29] <leftyfb> backportpackage: Error: The source package 'python-openssl' does not exist in the Ubuntu primary archive in artful, artful-security, artful-updates or artful-proposed
[19:39] <edisonbulb> does the unix write command only work on the local machine?
[19:45] <alexas> Bashing-om: anything besides the ACPI error that you has been able to find there? I did not see the error that flashes over the boot.
[19:47] <alkisg> edisonbulb: afaik yes, but people don't use real terminals nowadays anyway :)
[19:48] <edisonbulb> alkisg: thx, i think this command was way more popular back in the days of tons of people having dumb terminals connected to a centralized computer :)
[19:49] <alkisg> edisonbulb: indeed, what are you trying to solve that some messenger doesn't do?
[19:50] <edisonbulb> alkisg: oh i was just curious, not trying to solve any problems. i noticed that write can't message ptys either
[19:50] <edisonbulb> i use SMS for instant messaging purposes anyway
[20:10] <alexas> aha found whazt the error is
[20:11] <alexas> supposedly this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/767272/apparmor-init-failed-exit-code-123#767686
[20:11] <alexas> so now I wonder what was the problem with clonezilla then...
[20:11] <alexas> since i loaded it from a flash drive i suppose there was/is no logs on the system now
[20:12] <Bashing-om> alexas: Got interrupted . still reading the boot log . and you have not answered my questions IRT laptop .
[20:14] <alexas> Bashing-om: sorry missed it, it is a laptop Thinkpad L520
[20:22] <Bashing-om> alexas: Have a read : http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html . See if it applies in your use case .
[20:23] <alexas> Bashing-om: will do, thanks!
[20:32] <Bashing-om> alexas: And ... AppArmor is sure unhappy " usr.lib.mediascanner-2.0..........." .
[20:33] <alexas> Bashing-om: sorry I didn't understand, can you explain what you mean by that please?
[20:33] <alexas> Bashing-om: installed a script from the link, now rebooting machine
[20:35] <alexas> ok apparmor errorr is gone, which is good I suppose, should try the clonezilla again
[20:42] <alexas> I stil got the error while system loaded and I have no idea why yet
[20:44] <Bashing-om> alexas: Can you show that error ? I am not too good at guessing .
[20:45] <donofrio> Why am I seeing these??? "ath: phy0: chip reset failed"
[20:46] <oerheks> donofrio, nobody can answer that, without proper info
[20:47] <donofrio> oerheks, looks like https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2205970 but it's 17.04 and has all the updates.....and was working but now it's weird like firmware issue but shouldn't be...
[20:49] <alexas> Bashing-om: am aftaid I only got the gui window with a message 'system problem detected' and an option to 'report the problem' but it pops pretty regularly
[20:49] <alexas> every boot I would say
[20:50] <Bashing-om> alexas: Biggest thing I see this far is no dkms for that rc kernel . what shows ' sudo dkms status ' ?
[20:52] <donofrio> whats's the pastebin commandline
[20:57] <alexas> Bashing-om: sudo: dkms: command not found
[20:58] <donofrio> hardware is https://apaste.info/v1ee
[20:59] <Bashing-om> alexas: You have 61 errors in that last boot log . Boot up a conventionnal kerenl that is supported and see what the difference is .
[21:00] <alexas> Bashing-om: will do, thanks. it is not affecting the workflow at the moment, so I suppose I will live with it for some time.
[21:01] <alexas> Bashing-om: there are many misconfiguration stuff, but am looking only for something that can cause me a serious trouble - for example I was unable to create a backup through clonezilla lately and I supposed it was related, but probably noy
[21:01] <alexas> not*
[21:01] <donofrio> dmesg @ https://apaste.info/D8Q9
[21:04] <oerheks> i see no line at all in that dmesg: ath: phy0: chip reset failed
[21:04] <Bashing-om> alexas: Another biggy " Error getting hardware address for "bnep0": No such device " You do need to find out what "bnep0" is ( or in this case is not ) .
[21:06] <oerheks> but that single core Intel Atom N455 Integrated GMA 3150 .. nice doorstopper, not youtube capable i think
[21:06] <energizer> I just upgraded to 17.10, I used to use compiz, am I supposed to use compiz still?
[21:06] <donofrio> I'll paste the last log one moment
[21:07] <energizer> In particular, I want a keyboard shortcut to move windows to the next and previous display.
[21:07] <energizer> I used to do that with ccsm. What do I use now?
[21:09] <oerheks> install gnome-tweak-tool http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/06/gnome-tweak-tool-move-window-buttons
[21:09] <alexas> Bashing-om: am using android phone at the moment trhough many interfaces, wired as wifi hotspot and bluetooth (very energy effective) am supose it is one of them
[21:10] <donofrio> its in the syslog @ https://apaste.info/GLEt
[21:11] <energizer> oerheks: "There was an error loading the preferences dialog for Multi Monitors Add-On:" https://dpaste.de/gS6e
[21:12] <Bashing-om> alexas: ' ip link ls ' verify and get rid of that interface .. must be 20 errors on it .
[21:12] <Tricati> I need some advice on a remote server box with 16.04 installed - anyone familiar with with using them? - Having issues running some basic commands.. not sure if a GUI can be ran either.. new to the whole remote server thing
[21:14] <donofrio> oerheks, you can just click stop it on that page then refresh and you'll see the messages
[21:14] <energizer> Can't say I was banking on getting a javascript syntax error when I tried this!
[21:15] <energizer> Is there somewhere I can report this?
[21:15] <energizer> or can I just use compiz instead?
[21:17] <brym> Tricati: what commands are you having problems with?
[21:17] <energizer> looks like i cant use compiz
[21:18] <oerheks> donofrio, no clue why wireless and other repeating messages appear, that single core atom is really on the edge of usable
[21:19] <oerheks> maybe the wifi chip is bad, eol
[21:22] <leftyfb> If I'm backporting a package in a PPA and it requires dependencies, how do I go about resolving those deps? Adding the dep package to the ppa doesn't seem to work
[21:31] <energizer> oerheks: Got that menu working, but it doesn't seem to have an option for a keyboard shortcut to move windows.
[21:32] <energizer> oh got it. its in Keyboard shortcuts
[21:43] <donofrio> oerheks, works fine in windows 10 fall creators update no wifi issues (just way to big of a footprint for the OS install even with "compact /CompactOS:always" still took 13gb after wsl and ubuntu 17.04 installed, only leaving 1.6gb free....so I nativly installed ubuntu and now I get these wifi issues ;(
[21:43] <awer> im trying to output to a file and the screen at the same time. I only have access to execute command via the webbrowser but can run command execution and the www-data user.
[21:44] <awer> im trying to execute the following "cmd=/bin/nc -v -z 192.168.0.105 1-100 2>&1 |& /usr/bin/tee -a /var/www/test/test.txt"
[21:44] <awer> i have confirmed that nc and tee are installed and these are the directories given using the "which" command
[21:45] <awer> i get no output to the screen nor to the file using this method
[21:45] <TJ-> awer: "cmd=" means you're assigning to a variable? I assume you're in the shell?
[21:46] <awer> TJ-: thats the vulnerable variable on the webapp
[21:46] <awer> TJ-: full URL would be "http://192.168.0.105/test/cmd.php?cmd=/bin/nc%20-v%20-z%20192.168.0.105%201-100%202%3E&1%20|&%20/usr/bin/tee%20-a%20/var/www/test/test.txt"
[21:46] <awer> sorry for URL encoding
[21:47] <TJ-> awer: I only just came in but I'm a little lost! you're trying to pass a command via a HTTP GET that the *server* will execute itself?
[21:47] <alkisg> awer, is the webapp using shell to run the command, or exec? Try sh -c '/bin/nc ... ...' instead
[21:47] <alkisg> exec doesn't know about pipes etc
[21:48] <awer> the output of "http://192.168.0.105/test/cmd.php?cmd=which nc"  - the output displayed to the webbrowser would be "/usr/bin/tee"
[21:48] <awer> i can creaate files in the same manner
[21:48] <awer> chmod chown etc..
[21:48] <awer> TJ-:  correct!
[21:48] <TJ-> awer: well that's not really an Ubuntu support issue; that's specific to the web-application/server you're working with
[21:48] <awer> alkisg:  no joy
[21:49] <alkisg> awer: does this show the date? date | cat -
[21:49] <awer> TJ-: im trying to understand ways i can output a command to a file
[21:49] <awer> alkisg:  Yes it does . Output is "Wed Nov 22 13:49:36 PST 2017"
[21:50] <TJ-> awer: you need to check how the PHP is sending the command to the system? I'd expect it is NOT calling a shell - it will be forking and calling an exec() function
[21:50] <awer> my goal would be to create a reverse nc shellback to my system..
[21:50] <TJ-> awer: in other words, you need to call the shell yourself "sh -c 'cmd=/bin/nc -v -z 192.168.0.105 1-100 2>&1 |& /usr/bin/tee -a /var/www/test/test.txt'  "
[21:50] <TJ-> awer: oops, sorry, that's wrong
[21:51] <awer> TJ i cannot do sh -c beefore the cmd= part though
[21:51] <TJ-> awer: in other words, you need to call the shell yourself "cmd=sh -c 'cmd=/bin/nc -v -z 192.168.0.105 1-100 2>&1 |& /usr/bin/tee -a /var/www/test/test.txt'  "
[21:51] <TJ-> awer: then URL-encode the spaces etc
[21:51] <awer> whats the absolute path of sh
[21:51] <awer> /bin/sh?
[21:52] <awer> output of uname -a is "Linux ubuntu 3.11.0-15-generic #25~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 30 17:42:40 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux "
[21:52] <TJ-> awer: usually
[21:52] <alkisg> awer: is this about gaining access to another person's system?
[21:53] <awer> TJ-: that didnt work either :-(
[21:54] <awer> alkisg: yes. its legal, its a capture the flag exercise on a demo box from within my home LAN
[21:54] <TJ-> awer: check on the server; look at the logs, see what the report is. Ideally, see which function the PHP is using to execute the command since that probably parses the command to prevent shell escapes just like this
[21:54] <alkisg> Hrmmm ok. I guess the problem is that the browser doesn't uurlencode &, and you need to encode it manually.
[21:54] <awer> i think the firewall is bloacking aprticular outbound connections so i want to use nc to do a local port scan to see what port where open.
[21:55] <awer> looking for a trick that might solve the problem. be doing my head in for a few hours...
[21:55] <someone235> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu, but I can't detect my hard drive. Someone knows what can be done?
[21:55] <awer> i can do cmd=echo "some text" >> /var/www/test/test.txt and i see the text
[21:56] <alkisg> awer, see my remark about &
[21:56] <awer> alkisg: apologies i cant see a remark abotu using &?
[21:57] <TJ-> awer: ^^^^ as alkisg says, you'll need to URL-encode the "&" because it is used in the GET schema
[21:57] <alkisg> (11:54:39 μμ) alkisg: Hrmmm ok. I guess the problem is that the browser doesn't uurlencode &, and you need to encode it manually.
[21:57] <alkisg> awer, for example, type echo "&" >> /var/www/test/test.txt, can you see & then?
[21:58] <awer> alkisg: good shout on the logs maybe something in apache
[22:03] <awer> .
[22:25] <meder> why is php7.0-intl not available in ubuntu 16.04 lts aptitude?
[22:26] <Ben64> meder: it is in 16.04
[22:27] <leftyfb> meder: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26023037/
[22:31] <epac> anyone here has experience with opensc/smartcards (specifically yubikey's PIV tokens), network-manager (and as an added bonus openconnect?)
[22:34] <donofrio> oerheks, it's doing it again ;(
[22:34] <tatertotz> epac: and if someone did?
[22:34] <donofrio> seems to happen after an hour of being online then phy0 hrip reset failed "unable to reset channel, reset status -22"
[22:35] <tatertotz> epac: it goes smoother if you just state the problem you are having. They make mens pants in different sizes because mens waist size varies. So looking for someone else blindly to hope to be able to try "their" pants is a less than ideal strategy.
[22:41] <laplous3> Hi. I have a bluetooth headset that's paired and connected
[22:41] <laplous3>  I'm trying to route the audio through it, but cannot find a way to do so.
[22:41] <laplous3> am using xmonad, so no little applet thingy
[22:42] <awer>   
[22:43] <Ben64> laplous3: unity-control-center sound
[22:43] <laplous3> Ben64: xmonad, not unity ^^^
[22:43] <Ben64> doesn't mean you don't have that program
[22:43] <laplous3> lemme see
[22:44] <laplous3> oh hey
[22:44] <laplous3> didn't know i could still access this
[22:44] <laplous3> awesome haha
[22:44] <Ben64> can access anything from anything
[22:44] <laplous3> my god, I have done a lot of things the hard way :/
[22:45] <laplous3> tbh my reasoning for not attempting it is nonsensical so
[22:45] <laplous3> thanks!
[22:45] <trdillon1> I have an issue where MAAS cannot commision nodes
[22:46] <trdillon1> I get an empty file under 00-maas-01-lshw
[22:50] <Portable_Cheese> Hi
[22:51] <latenite> Hi folks, I installed firefox but I can not use firebug because it sais: 'Nicht kompatibel mit Firefox Quantum'
[22:51] <latenite> how can I install firebug on Ubuntu?
[22:52] <Portable_Cheese> I did a software update with sudo apt upgrade
[22:52] <mentalita> it has nothing to do with ubuntu it has to do with firefox quantum
[22:52] <Portable_Cheese> And now the GUI is frozen except for my mouse
[22:52] <Portable_Cheese> And has been for a half hour
[22:53] <latenite> mentalita, but quantum is default for ubuntu?!
[22:53] <mentalita> latenite: quantum is just the latest version, did you try downgrading and installing it?
[22:53] <latenite> mentalita, or is quantum some weird spin off?
[22:53] <latenite> mentalita, no how do I do that?
[22:54] <genii> latenite: File a bug with the developer of Firebug to update it.
[22:54] <Portable_Cheese> Last line before it got stuck was update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-87-generic
[22:54] <mentalita> latenite: https://askubuntu.com/questions/977138/how-do-i-downgrade-firefox-v-57-to-v-56
[22:54] <Portable_Cheese> I can move the mouse around but everything else is locked up
[22:55] <Portable_Cheese> I can also get into tty1
[22:55] <leftyfb> Portable_Cheese: reboot
[22:55] <Portable_Cheese> Ok
[22:55] <leftyfb> what is firebug?
[22:56] <leftyfb> I don't see it as a package name or even a binary in any of the official packages
[22:57] <genii> It's an addon for Firefox
[22:57] <genii> latenite: From https://github.com/firebug/firebug/ in part, .. "On November 14, with the launch of Firefox Quantum (AKA 57), support for old school extensions will stop in Firefox. That means Firebug will no longer work for many developers. However, the work continues in the great Firefox devtools. You can try Firefox devtools by updating your release browser or downloading Developer Edition."
[22:58] <genii> latenite: Which they give links to.
[22:59] <latenite> genii, are Firefox devtools the same as firebug?
[22:59] <genii> I'm guessing Yes
[23:00] <Bashing-om> Portable_Cheese: Check that a package manager is not still running ' ps -efly | egrep '(dpkg|apt) ' .
[23:00] <genii> ( or the equivalent )
[23:02] <Portable_Cheese> Oh... a little late....
[23:02] <latenite> genii, cool thank you :D
[23:02] <genii> latenite: Glad to assist
[23:03] <Bashing-om> Portable_Cheese: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' all run clean ?
[23:04] <epac> tatertotz: fair enough. I have a yubikey with PIV mode enabled, p11tool shows the various URLs for all the objects on the token. I cannot for the life of me however use those URLs for 802-1x.client-cert property for a network connection. I get a 'no such file or directory'.
[23:04] <epac> p11tool and pkcs11-tool both work (using slightly different parameters).
[23:05] <epac> i can confirm that the certificate in the slot i'm interested in (Certificate for Card Authentication) is there, and doesn't require a pin to access.
[23:05] <epac> so i believe i've setup opensc/pcsd properly.
[23:05] <Portable_Cheese> @Bashing-om Yes, other then asking if I want to remove old headers and images
[23:06] <kostkon> latenite, there;s also firefox developer edition https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/developer/
[23:06] <Bashing-om> Portable_Cheese: :) . all good then .
[23:46] <kevinfish> how can I make a command line program available to use as an application I can open a file with from the file manager?
[23:55] <volty> kubuntu 14.04 here, after last updates I got mess with locales. Any hint / guides to fix it?
[23:59] <yao_ziyuan> in license files i frequently see "Files: debian/*" but actually can't find such a directory. so what does "debian/*" mean?