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keithzgAha, the people commenting on askubuntu.com just had some details wrong (as usual :P), reading the actual man page clarifies where they were wrong and now things are working for my coworker to insecurely forward X11 over telnet :)00:21
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ghazHi, everyone!02:41
ghazI have no manu bars on several apps, like VLC..how to show it?02:42
ghazI'm using Kubuntu 17.04.02:44
user|55100Hello, I have a quick question about Kubuntu. Is touchscreen supported on this IS? If not, can you redirect me to a version of Linux that does? Thank you06:32
lordievaderGood morning07:13
GizmoRomickI keep having plasma UI crashes and restarts.  I don't know where to really start looking for the problem, and the plasma irc channel is silent.  Can anyone help me?07:15
GizmoRomicklorgievader: good morning to you too07:15
lordievadero/07:15
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GizmoRomickI like the note on Developer information tab, "The generated crash information is probably not useful"07:17
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CoJaBoIs there a way to remote-desktop/VNC into a Kubuntu (14.04) install with only ssh? KRDC is installed, but it doesn't seem to be operable via cli... :/09:08
hateballCoJaBo: well you can tunnel VNC over SSH09:09
CoJaBohateball: The difficult part is getting the VNC part to run; another hiccup, the package manager appears to be hopelessly broken, and I don't want to be spending 4 hours figuring out why09:10
CoJaBoKRDC would work perfect, but it seems to only be startable via the GUI; except, I can't start it via the GUI, since I need it running to use the GUI <_<09:11
hateballKRDC is a client and not a server09:13
hateballmaybe you mean krfb ?09:13
CoJaBoYes, it's probably krfb that I'm talking about09:13
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hateballdoes it have to be VNC? You cant just do X-forwarding?09:14
CoJaBoIn this case, I need the full desktop :/09:15
CoJaBoSo, apparently x11vnc is already installed.09:41
CoJaBothat works..09:41
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IrcsomeBot<DGUERRERO> Good day everyone10:38
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BluesKaj'Morning all10:44
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esperosjoin /r/anime15:52
marcofehi guys15:55
BluesKajhi15:56
marcofeI want you ask an information to you...I've two PCs one local and one remote and I want start startx on the remote machine from the local machine (I've a ssh session open in the local machine)...how to do this?15:57
BluesKajmarcofe, if you've already ssh'd into the remote pc then just run startx normally at the prompt16:00
marcofei did, but nothing in the remote display16:00
BluesKajdid you  ssh -Y user@remoteIP ?16:02
lordievaderBluesKaj: That is only if you want to use your local display for a remote application.16:16
lordievadermarcofe: I think you need to set the DISPLAY variable beforhand. 'export DISPLAY=:0 && startx'.16:17
BluesKajthanks lordievader  :-)16:19
marcofeso guys, nothing is happening16:24
marcofeuhmm16:24
BluesKajis remote pc on your network or over the internet16:26
marcofeon my network16:28
BluesKajso you're trying to boot your network pc desktop remotely, and why is that?16:33
lordievadermarcofe_: Does it work if you issue `startx` from a tty?16:36
kambahello. does anybody know how to update plasma 5.8 to 5.10 on kubuntu16:40
marcofe_lordievader:  It seems the command is stared because I noticed a lot of folder are created (like Desktop, Music..). These folders there wasn't before16:40
kambai set ppa backports do full upgrade no changes16:40
lordievadermarcofe_: Is a desktop started (or whatever you have configured startx to do)?16:42
BluesKajkamba, there might be a ppa for your kubuntu version, check launchpad for the staging repos16:43
kambais launchpad like synaptic package manager16:45
kambappa:kubuntu-ppa/backports i use this one16:45
BluesKajkamba, check this, but heed the warnings these ppas contain development apps https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma16:46
BluesKajthat ppa has the 5.11 plasma16:48
kambayes i found what you want just before you answer. i wanna use stable. i found this https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-10-1-now-in-zesty-backports/16:48
kambaso i am wondering if there is stable release16:48
marcofe_lordievader: the desktop is not started16:49
BluesKaj5.10 is still under development if it's not in the backports16:49
marcofe_lordievader:  imagine I've a tty screen login and nothing16:50
acheronukkamba: if you mean for 16.04, Plasma 5.8 is the highest version we have built for that16:50
kambaok thanks for informations. since i am in dev group does anybody know when stable releases will be out16:51
acheronukkamba: not sure what you mean. Kubuntu has a stable release every 6 months16:52
kambano just plasma upgrade16:52
kambanew features16:52
acheronukif you mean when will the backports ppa for 16.04 get a plasma version higher than 5.8 the answer is that it probably won't16:53
acheronukNewer plasma is in 17.10, and will be in the next LTS 18.04 in April16:54
BluesKajI"m testing 18.04 and it uses plasma 5.10 atm16:56
acheronukBluesKaj: 18.04 should ship with 5.12 eventually16:57
BluesKajright16:58
acheronukkamba: 5.8 is a plasma LTS release, so that goes with 16.04 LTS well. plus newer plasma would also mean upgrading Qt again in the PPA, which is not very viable at this stage for us17:05
user|84665i have a problem with Konsole, is there anyone that could help me with this?17:16
user|84665So i installed bash ( and my konsole changed) I tried uninstall it, but i could not. And now when I try to test my scala code, i get errors.17:18
user|84665Is there a way to reverse those changes and go back to standard Konsole?17:18
user|84665I did try to google my problem but no help there17:20
user|84665anyone?17:21
BluesKajwhy did you remove bash ?17:24
user|84665so long story short I wanted to install ruby on rails to do my project17:24
BluesKajtry to rather, it's default17:24
user|84665I followed one of the tutorials which suggest to use bash,17:25
user|84665i followed it step by step and installed everything17:25
user|84665i could not remove bash17:25
BluesKajof course not17:27
BluesKaj!konsole17:27
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal17:27
BluesKajdon't muck about with trying to change the konsole, you just end up in a pickle17:29
BluesKajuser|84665,^17:29
user|84665http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/installing-rails-5-windows17:30
user|84665i used this tutorial17:30
user|84665http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/installing-rails-5-linux17:31
user|84665*17:31
user|84665and i think i messed it with this command17:31
user|84665gpg --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 409B6B1796C275462A1703113804BB82D39DC0E317:31
user|84665\curl -sSL https://get.rvm.io | bash -s stable17:31
m_tadeuhi...sudenly, my mouse and keyboard are being disabled after a few secs...what is this?17:33
user|84665@blueskaj @ubottu thank you17:37
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kaosineOk stupid question. How well would I fare installing kubuntu and wine/tricks on a old dell 3847? (especially since I hope if things go well soon that I might be able to upgrade the ram from 8 to 16, put a ssd in it, and a dedicated nvidia card in it)22:55
kaosineanyone?23:11
acheronukkaosine: I have installed Kubuntu on one of those. Not really any problems23:14
kaosineacheronuk: just wanted to make sure....considering the computer is at least 2 or 3 years old....just gotta burn a dvd to install it. I'm completely sick of windows now the older I get >_>23:15
acheronukbluetooth was a bit glitchy on older kernels, but recent ones are ok I think23:15
kaosinejust made the stupid mistake of not grabbing the mouse so I'm a little stuck on this endeavor since it's hard for me to navigate it without that to burn the disk23:15
kaosinewas able to get far enough to see my live disk of 10.04.1 lts of regular ubuntu still works though funnily enough23:16
acheronukthe one I installed on had a Nvidia card, so not sure what the onboard intel HD 4600 graphics does23:16
kaosine(and yes I know that version is 7 years old now XD)23:16
kaosineyeah the plan is to eventually put a nvidia card in it23:17
kaosineI'm just too broke to do so just yet23:17
acheronukSSD would be a good plan. 250GB one was about £50-60 a year or so ago23:18
kaosinethe plan is to get a nvidia card, a ssd, and upgrade from 8 to 16gb of ram23:18
kaosinethe default drive will keep it's place in teh system since it's a 1tb regular hdd, but I'll have to see how it works out once I get that ssd since that might mean reinstalling unless it's possible to change it later23:19
acheronukkaosine: if you looks at the intel HD 4600 vs the Nvidia card that was an option for those machines from the factory, the onboard intel actually outperforms the Nvidia on a fair number of benchmarks23:19
acheronukbut a better Nvidia would obviously be superior23:19
kaosineyeah but it doesn't have hdmi(which won't matter since I'll probably be hooking up my steam link to it once I get back to the dorm)23:20
kaosinebut I do want to fudge it a little and go for a midground card better than what's built in23:20
kaosineI just have to figure out my way around wine, I've never had luck before and i want to learn23:21
acheronukI used to use it a bit, but not for years23:21
acheronukand mostly I used Codeweaver's version when I did23:22
acheronukbut only as I had it free23:22
kaosinewell if I do those upgrades it should last me for years if I do it right23:22
kaosineI'm too broke to turn down a free computer :P23:22
acheronukhere = 16GB ram, 256DG SSD, 2 x 1TB HDD23:23
acheronukand it is quite reasonable for a few years old machine23:23
acheronukthe 4 core CPU is better than many things now23:24
kaosineThe issue is I keep aquring old computers somehow...my original plan was to install lubuntu on a 53023:24
kaosinethen I turn around when I come to stay at my grandmothers and she says I can just have this one since she only uses her laptop now anyways23:25
kaosineand I have like 3 windows xp laptops too >_>23:25
acheronuklol23:25
kaosinebut yeah, those upgrades and I'm certain I can make this computer last for years to come23:26
kaosineespecially since 8gb of ram and the current hdd is probably nice but changing to 16 and a ssd will probably make it run like new23:26
acheronukit should :)23:27
kaosineI just have no clue how to tell what cards will fit into the darned thing since it says pci-e but not if it's 3.0 or what just x1 and x16 o_o23:27
kaosine(I'm a programmer not a hardware guy....hardware confuses the crap out of me unless I have a guide on what I'm doing)23:28
acheronuknot touched the graphics card, so not sure to be honest23:28
kaosinewell if you know anything about hardware it'd help to figure out if I was ok to just put a 3.0 pci-e in it....I'm that clueless about hardware apparently http://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_inspiron_desktop/inspiron-3847-desktop_owner's%20manual_en-us.pdf23:30

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