[00:21] <keithzg> Aha, the people commenting on askubuntu.com just had some details wrong (as usual :P), reading the actual man page clarifies where they were wrong and now things are working for my coworker to insecurely forward X11 over telnet :)
[02:41] <ghaz> Hi, everyone!
[02:42] <ghaz> I have no manu bars on several apps, like VLC..how to show it?
[02:44] <ghaz> I'm using Kubuntu 17.04.
[06:32] <user|55100> Hello, I have a quick question about Kubuntu. Is touchscreen supported on this IS? If not, can you redirect me to a version of Linux that does? Thank you
[07:13] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:15] <GizmoRomick> I keep having plasma UI crashes and restarts.  I don't know where to really start looking for the problem, and the plasma irc channel is silent.  Can anyone help me?
[07:15] <GizmoRomick> lorgievader: good morning to you too
[07:15] <lordievader> o/
[07:17] <GizmoRomick> I like the note on Developer information tab, "The generated crash information is probably not useful"
[09:08] <CoJaBo> Is there a way to remote-desktop/VNC into a Kubuntu (14.04) install with only ssh? KRDC is installed, but it doesn't seem to be operable via cli... :/
[09:09] <hateball> CoJaBo: well you can tunnel VNC over SSH
[09:10] <CoJaBo> hateball: The difficult part is getting the VNC part to run; another hiccup, the package manager appears to be hopelessly broken, and I don't want to be spending 4 hours figuring out why
[09:11] <CoJaBo> KRDC would work perfect, but it seems to only be startable via the GUI; except, I can't start it via the GUI, since I need it running to use the GUI <_<
[09:13] <hateball> KRDC is a client and not a server
[09:13] <hateball> maybe you mean krfb ?
[09:13] <CoJaBo> Yes, it's probably krfb that I'm talking about
[09:14] <hateball> does it have to be VNC? You cant just do X-forwarding?
[09:15] <CoJaBo> In this case, I need the full desktop :/
[09:41] <CoJaBo> So, apparently x11vnc is already installed.
[09:41] <CoJaBo> that works..
 Good day everyone
[10:44] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[15:52] <esperos> join /r/anime
[15:55] <marcofe> hi guys
[15:56] <BluesKaj> hi
[15:57] <marcofe> I want you ask an information to you...I've two PCs one local and one remote and I want start startx on the remote machine from the local machine (I've a ssh session open in the local machine)...how to do this?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> marcofe, if you've already ssh'd into the remote pc then just run startx normally at the prompt
[16:00] <marcofe> i did, but nothing in the remote display
[16:02] <BluesKaj> did you  ssh -Y user@remoteIP ?
[16:16] <lordievader> BluesKaj: That is only if you want to use your local display for a remote application.
[16:17] <lordievader> marcofe: I think you need to set the DISPLAY variable beforhand. 'export DISPLAY=:0 && startx'.
[16:19] <BluesKaj> thanks lordievader  :-)
[16:24] <marcofe> so guys, nothing is happening
[16:24] <marcofe> uhmm
[16:26] <BluesKaj> is remote pc on your network or over the internet
[16:28] <marcofe> on my network
[16:33] <BluesKaj> so you're trying to boot your network pc desktop remotely, and why is that?
[16:36] <lordievader> marcofe_: Does it work if you issue `startx` from a tty?
[16:40] <kamba> hello. does anybody know how to update plasma 5.8 to 5.10 on kubuntu
[16:40] <marcofe_> lordievader:  It seems the command is stared because I noticed a lot of folder are created (like Desktop, Music..). These folders there wasn't before
[16:40] <kamba> i set ppa backports do full upgrade no changes
[16:42] <lordievader> marcofe_: Is a desktop started (or whatever you have configured startx to do)?
[16:43] <BluesKaj> kamba, there might be a ppa for your kubuntu version, check launchpad for the staging repos
[16:45] <kamba> is launchpad like synaptic package manager
[16:45] <kamba> ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports i use this one
[16:46] <BluesKaj> kamba, check this, but heed the warnings these ppas contain development apps https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-plasma
[16:48] <BluesKaj> that ppa has the 5.11 plasma
[16:48] <kamba> yes i found what you want just before you answer. i wanna use stable. i found this https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-10-1-now-in-zesty-backports/
[16:48] <kamba> so i am wondering if there is stable release
[16:49] <marcofe_> lordievader: the desktop is not started
[16:49] <BluesKaj> 5.10 is still under development if it's not in the backports
[16:50] <marcofe_> lordievader:  imagine I've a tty screen login and nothing
[16:50] <acheronuk> kamba: if you mean for 16.04, Plasma 5.8 is the highest version we have built for that
[16:51] <kamba> ok thanks for informations. since i am in dev group does anybody know when stable releases will be out
[16:52] <acheronuk> kamba: not sure what you mean. Kubuntu has a stable release every 6 months
[16:52] <kamba> no just plasma upgrade
[16:52] <kamba> new features
[16:53] <acheronuk> if you mean when will the backports ppa for 16.04 get a plasma version higher than 5.8 the answer is that it probably won't
[16:54] <acheronuk> Newer plasma is in 17.10, and will be in the next LTS 18.04 in April
[16:56] <BluesKaj> I"m testing 18.04 and it uses plasma 5.10 atm
[16:57] <acheronuk> BluesKaj: 18.04 should ship with 5.12 eventually
[16:58] <BluesKaj> right
[17:05] <acheronuk> kamba: 5.8 is a plasma LTS release, so that goes with 16.04 LTS well. plus newer plasma would also mean upgrading Qt again in the PPA, which is not very viable at this stage for us
[17:16] <user|84665> i have a problem with Konsole, is there anyone that could help me with this?
[17:18] <user|84665> So i installed bash ( and my konsole changed) I tried uninstall it, but i could not. And now when I try to test my scala code, i get errors.
[17:18] <user|84665> Is there a way to reverse those changes and go back to standard Konsole?
[17:20] <user|84665> I did try to google my problem but no help there
[17:21] <user|84665> anyone?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> why did you remove bash ?
[17:24] <user|84665> so long story short I wanted to install ruby on rails to do my project
[17:24] <BluesKaj> try to rather, it's default
[17:25] <user|84665> I followed one of the tutorials which suggest to use bash,
[17:25] <user|84665> i followed it step by step and installed everything
[17:25] <user|84665> i could not remove bash
[17:27] <BluesKaj> of course not
[17:27] <BluesKaj> !konsole
[17:29] <BluesKaj> don't muck about with trying to change the konsole, you just end up in a pickle
[17:29] <BluesKaj> user|84665,^
[17:30] <user|84665> http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/installing-rails-5-windows
[17:30] <user|84665> i used this tutorial
[17:31] <user|84665> http://blog.teamtreehouse.com/installing-rails-5-linux
[17:31] <user|84665> *
[17:31] <user|84665> and i think i messed it with this command
[17:31] <user|84665> gpg --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 409B6B1796C275462A1703113804BB82D39DC0E3
[17:31] <user|84665> \curl -sSL https://get.rvm.io | bash -s stable
[17:33] <m_tadeu> hi...sudenly, my mouse and keyboard are being disabled after a few secs...what is this?
[17:37] <user|84665> @blueskaj @ubottu thank you
[19:58] <joppe_> is er iemand nu nog online
[22:55] <kaosine> Ok stupid question. How well would I fare installing kubuntu and wine/tricks on a old dell 3847? (especially since I hope if things go well soon that I might be able to upgrade the ram from 8 to 16, put a ssd in it, and a dedicated nvidia card in it)
[23:11] <kaosine> anyone?
[23:14] <acheronuk> kaosine: I have installed Kubuntu on one of those. Not really any problems
[23:15] <kaosine> acheronuk: just wanted to make sure....considering the computer is at least 2 or 3 years old....just gotta burn a dvd to install it. I'm completely sick of windows now the older I get >_>
[23:15] <acheronuk> bluetooth was a bit glitchy on older kernels, but recent ones are ok I think
[23:15] <kaosine> just made the stupid mistake of not grabbing the mouse so I'm a little stuck on this endeavor since it's hard for me to navigate it without that to burn the disk
[23:16] <kaosine> was able to get far enough to see my live disk of 10.04.1 lts of regular ubuntu still works though funnily enough
[23:16] <acheronuk> the one I installed on had a Nvidia card, so not sure what the onboard intel HD 4600 graphics does
[23:16] <kaosine> (and yes I know that version is 7 years old now XD)
[23:17] <kaosine> yeah the plan is to eventually put a nvidia card in it
[23:17] <kaosine> I'm just too broke to do so just yet
[23:18] <acheronuk> SSD would be a good plan. 250GB one was about £50-60 a year or so ago
[23:18] <kaosine> the plan is to get a nvidia card, a ssd, and upgrade from 8 to 16gb of ram
[23:19] <kaosine> the default drive will keep it's place in teh system since it's a 1tb regular hdd, but I'll have to see how it works out once I get that ssd since that might mean reinstalling unless it's possible to change it later
[23:19] <acheronuk> kaosine: if you looks at the intel HD 4600 vs the Nvidia card that was an option for those machines from the factory, the onboard intel actually outperforms the Nvidia on a fair number of benchmarks
[23:19] <acheronuk> but a better Nvidia would obviously be superior
[23:20] <kaosine> yeah but it doesn't have hdmi(which won't matter since I'll probably be hooking up my steam link to it once I get back to the dorm)
[23:20] <kaosine> but I do want to fudge it a little and go for a midground card better than what's built in
[23:21] <kaosine> I just have to figure out my way around wine, I've never had luck before and i want to learn
[23:21] <acheronuk> I used to use it a bit, but not for years
[23:22] <acheronuk> and mostly I used Codeweaver's version when I did
[23:22] <acheronuk> but only as I had it free
[23:22] <kaosine> well if I do those upgrades it should last me for years if I do it right
[23:22] <kaosine> I'm too broke to turn down a free computer :P
[23:23] <acheronuk> here = 16GB ram, 256DG SSD, 2 x 1TB HDD
[23:23] <acheronuk> and it is quite reasonable for a few years old machine
[23:24] <acheronuk> the 4 core CPU is better than many things now
[23:24] <kaosine> The issue is I keep aquring old computers somehow...my original plan was to install lubuntu on a 530
[23:25] <kaosine> then I turn around when I come to stay at my grandmothers and she says I can just have this one since she only uses her laptop now anyways
[23:25] <kaosine> and I have like 3 windows xp laptops too >_>
[23:25] <acheronuk> lol
[23:26] <kaosine> but yeah, those upgrades and I'm certain I can make this computer last for years to come
[23:26] <kaosine> especially since 8gb of ram and the current hdd is probably nice but changing to 16 and a ssd will probably make it run like new
[23:27] <acheronuk> it should :)
[23:27] <kaosine> I just have no clue how to tell what cards will fit into the darned thing since it says pci-e but not if it's 3.0 or what just x1 and x16 o_o
[23:28] <kaosine> (I'm a programmer not a hardware guy....hardware confuses the crap out of me unless I have a guide on what I'm doing)
[23:28] <acheronuk> not touched the graphics card, so not sure to be honest
[23:30] <kaosine> well if you know anything about hardware it'd help to figure out if I was ok to just put a 3.0 pci-e in it....I'm that clueless about hardware apparently http://downloads.dell.com/manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_inspiron_desktop/inspiron-3847-desktop_owner's%20manual_en-us.pdf