| ShellcatZero | If one wants to rebuild the live cd for their own specific use cases, what is the recommended workflow? I've been using the Live CD Customization guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization), but I was hoping there would be an easier way of just booting into the live environment, customizing the GUI, then saving it to an installable ISO. | 09:16 |
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| ShellcatZero | I'm curious to know how the Lubuntu dev team is doing this. | 09:17 |
| hateball | ShellcatZero: you might want to ask in #lubuntu-devel then :) | 09:17 |
| ShellcatZero | Hmm, ok | 09:17 |
| hateball | I'm assuming that's where devs lurk, according to /topic | 09:19 |
| ShellcatZero | Cool, I assumed there would be devs here as well to help answer user questions, I assumed the dev channel was strictly for Lubuntu devs to discuss development. | 09:21 |
| hateball | ShellcatZero: oh there could be devs here as well, but this channel tends to be *really* idle | 09:55 |
| LandLubber | can anyone point me in the direction of a good install guide for dell laptops? i have a mini 1012 that was running ubuntu great now it freezes upon boot with newer versions, same thing with lubuntu after first boot | 13:57 |
| bobsmith83 | good morning turkeys | 17:24 |
| bobsmith83 | I've got some problems created by "sloppy" partitioning. anyone want to help me try clean it up? | 17:25 |
| bobsmith83 | I started the system with trisquel install, then added lubuntu. Now, it appears my /home in lubuntu is residing in root! yikes! how to fix? | 17:26 |
| GuyFawkes | is there anyone around who can help me with a software updater issue? | 17:43 |
| wxl | bobsmith83: you mean /root/home/bobsmith? | 17:44 |
| wxl | go for it GuyFawkes | 17:44 |
| GuyFawkes | Software Update gets triggered somehow, but when I click on Install Now, it starts but fails | 17:45 |
| wxl | what's the fail? | 17:45 |
| GuyFawkes | it doesn't complete the download and install...Software Update crashes? | 17:45 |
| wxl | and there's no error or anything? that seems unlikely | 17:46 |
| GuyFawkes | nope, no error | 17:46 |
| wxl | no crash dialog? nothing? you just click it and everything disappears? | 17:46 |
| GuyFawkes | correct, that's what happens. I get a bit of a progress bar, and then poof | 17:47 |
| GuyFawkes | is there a sudo apt-get I can do from terminal? | 17:48 |
| wxl | i've never seen such a thing before. every unclean exit should produce a crash dialog | 17:48 |
| wxl | however, you can just `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade` | 17:48 |
| GuyFawkes | or apt-get update I suppose | 17:48 |
| GuyFawkes | thanks...thats the full command? I'm not really Terminal smart. lacking in command line fu | 17:49 |
| wxl | yep, just need to give it your password, assuming you're in sudoers | 17:49 |
| GuyFawkes | I am. I'mma give it a whack right now... | 17:50 |
| GuyFawkes | 44% progress and climbing. thank you @wxl | 17:52 |
| wxl | GuyFawkes: also check /var/crash for crash reports | 17:52 |
| bobsmith83 | my /home/bobsmith appears to be on /dev/sda7 mounted at '/', a partition that is just 7.8gb | 17:53 |
| wxl | ah that's a mount issue. edit /etc/fstab appropriately | 17:54 |
| bobsmith83 | cool! that doesnt seem too hard? | 17:54 |
| wxl | nope | 17:54 |
| GuyFawkes | ls /var/crash ? | 17:55 |
| wxl | yeah | 17:55 |
| GuyFawkes | nothing | 17:56 |
| wxl | huh | 17:56 |
| GuyFawkes | ls /var/crash <enter> and all I get is a command prompt | 17:56 |
| wxl | what does `grep problem_types /etc/apport/crashdb.conf` return? | 17:56 |
| wxl | or more importantly is there a # in front of it? | 17:57 |
| GuyFawkes | and now I see a software update window... | 17:57 |
| GuyFawkes | standby... | 17:57 |
| bobsmith83 | where to start? terminal- | 17:59 |
| wxl | bobsmith83: have you picked an editor yet? | 17:59 |
| GuyFawkes | 'Bug', 'Package' | 17:59 |
| bobsmith83 | leafpad for now | 17:59 |
| wxl | GuyFawkes: but is there a # at the beginning? | 18:00 |
| wxl | bobsmith83: have you picked a TERMINAL editor? | 18:00 |
| GuyFawkes | no | 18:00 |
| wxl | GuyFawkes: ok, now give me the number when you `grep enabled /etc/default/apport` | 18:01 |
| bobsmith83 | hmmm, i guess not. suggest? | 18:01 |
| wxl | bobsmith83: easy: nano. best: well, everyone's going to have their own opinions but usually either vi or emacs. both will require some reading to know how to use them, but once you do they're very efficient. | 18:01 |
| GuyFawkes | 1 | 18:02 |
| bobsmith83 | I used vi back in college days. acient history... | 18:02 |
| wxl | GuyFawkes: now what do you get from `service apport status | grep Active` | 18:03 |
| GuyFawkes | Active: active (exited) since Thu 2017-11-23 11:34:15 EST; 1h 29min ago | 18:04 |
| wxl | ok so that says the crash reporter is working | 18:04 |
| wxl | GuyFawkes: are you done updating software yet? | 18:05 |
| GuyFawkes | software updater says I should reboot | 18:05 |
| GuyFawkes | gonna be here a few minutes? I'll go and do that | 18:05 |
| wxl | it's not necessary | 18:06 |
| wxl | as long as the process is done you're good | 18:06 |
| wxl | just means you have a new kernel :) | 18:06 |
| wxl | anyways, run `update-manager` in terminal and let me know if it behaves as you expect | 18:07 |
| bobsmith83 | how do I get into editor? just type vi? or do i need to apt-get install first? | 18:09 |
| wxl | you should already have it | 18:09 |
| GuyFawkes | so I'm back...where do we go from here, or are we done? | 18:11 |
| bobsmith83 | hit vi- what now? it up on start screen. bringing but bad memories working in campus computer lab debugging c+ programs... | 18:11 |
| wxl | oh hahahahaha | 18:12 |
| wxl | i'm not giving you a vi class buddy :) | 18:12 |
| wxl | but i'll give you a really quick one: | 18:12 |
| wxl | i will go to INSERT mode | 18:12 |
| wxl | escape will get you to normal mode | 18:12 |
| wxl | to write and quit in normal mode, ZZ | 18:12 |
| bobsmith83 | crap- maybe i should go to nano instead?! | 18:13 |
| wxl | you can also :q! to get out without saving | 18:13 |
| wxl | `sudo vi /etc/fstab` | 18:13 |
| bobsmith83 | wow, people still use vi? omg, its too painful | 18:15 |
| bobsmith83 | I cant even q! | 18:15 |
| wxl | GuyFawkes: >:<q! | 18:15 |
| wxl | oops sorry | 18:16 |
| wxl | meant that for bobsmith83 | 18:16 |
| wxl | GuyFawkes: for you, run `update-manager` in the terminal and see if it behaves like normal | 18:16 |
| bobsmith83 | i should wait my turn, sorry guy | 18:16 |
| GuyFawkes | uhhh....sudo update-manager? | 18:17 |
| wxl | no you shouldn't need sudo | 18:18 |
| GuyFawkes | "the software on this computer is up-to-date" | 18:19 |
| GuyFawkes | thank you! | 18:19 |
| wxl | GuyFawkes: no problem | 18:19 |
| bobsmith83 | vi scared me for life. I swore at it more than anything! and I swore I'd never touch it again after that class! its back to haunt me. all these repressed memories bubbling up now! insane! | 18:20 |
| wxl | GuyFawkes: if you have problems again, use `ubuntu-bug update-manager` | 18:20 |
| wxl | bobsmith83: oh just use `nano` you big baby XD | 18:20 |
| bobsmith83 | lol! | 18:21 |
| GuyFawkes | noted. again, thanks, and happy turkey day if you're in that jurisdiction | 18:21 |
| wxl | no problem GuyFawkes have a good day | 18:21 |
| bobsmith83 | ok, i'll try it... | 18:21 |
| bobsmith83 | believe me, I hate to ask to have my hand held, but... | 18:23 |
| wxl | sudo vi nano /etc/fstab | 18:24 |
| wxl | make sure that sda7 points to /home | 18:24 |
| wxl | and make sure you have a root in there! | 18:25 |
| wxl | sudo fdisk -l should help you figure out the right one (it's bootable) | 18:25 |
| bobsmith83 | i did sudo vi nano /etc/fstab, now I'm in vi, and it says "nano" new file | 18:27 |
| wxl | omg | 18:28 |
| wxl | sorry | 18:28 |
| wxl | my problem is i don't ever use nano. i'm just too used to using vi :) | 18:28 |
| bobsmith83 | you totally did that on purpose! | 18:28 |
| wxl | `sudo nano /etc/fstab` | 18:28 |
| wxl | just hit ESC : q ! ENTER in that order | 18:28 |
| bobsmith83 | i just closed that window | 18:30 |
| bobsmith83 | so you use vi, huh? | 18:30 |
| wxl | oh yeah | 18:31 |
| wxl | additional benefit: super easy to use on mobile | 18:31 |
| bobsmith83 | well, I'm sure if you use it often, its great | 18:31 |
| bobsmith83 | I'm in nano | 18:31 |
| wxl | see here for examples https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab | 18:32 |
| wxl | tl;dr you should have: | 18:33 |
| wxl | some-way-of-identifying-the-partition mount-location file-type options 0 fsck-order | 18:33 |
| bobsmith83 | there's not much in here really. first line is UUID= blahblahblah | 18:34 |
| wxl | for fsck order, you probably want / to be 1 and /home 2 | 18:34 |
| bobsmith83 | second line is /swapfile none | 18:34 |
| wxl | the UUIDs are a way of refering to the partition | 18:34 |
| wxl | what's the mount point of that one? / i'm assuming? | 18:34 |
| bobsmith83 | yes | 18:35 |
| bobsmith83 | options = "errors=remount-ro" | 18:35 |
| bobsmith83 | that seems strange | 18:35 |
| wxl | run `sudo blkid` in a separate window/tab/whatever | 18:35 |
| wxl | btw `tmux` is a "window manager" for terminal | 18:35 |
| bobsmith83 | ok, I've also got gparted up for help, and a file manager window. but they dont tell me everything | 18:37 |
| wxl | i didn't say gparted, did i? :) | 18:37 |
| bobsmith83 | I dont mind cheating alittle | 18:38 |
| wxl | not if it doesn't help... | 18:38 |
| bobsmith83 | maybe i should study that page you sent me and ask questions later? maybe you can give me a high level of how /etc/fstab should be set up? considering the problem i have where the /home seems to be mounted to / instead of a /home partiton? | 18:42 |
| wxl | get the UUID of the / partition and then replace the UUID of the /dev/sda7 partition (which should be what's in there) with it | 18:42 |
| wxl | done | 18:42 |
| wxl | ..except | 18:42 |
| wxl | you also have a separate home partition? | 18:43 |
| bobsmith83 | here's my current partitions: | 18:44 |
| wxl | you can just use "defaults" for the options | 18:44 |
| wxl | don't paste it here! | 18:44 |
| bobsmith83 | no? I was not going to paste, just explain | 18:45 |
| wxl | ok | 18:45 |
| wxl | well you can use pastebin | 18:45 |
| wxl | in fact: | 18:45 |
| wxl | !pastebinit | 18:45 |
| ubottu | pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit | 18:45 |
| bobsmith83 | sounds cool, but not now... | 18:46 |
| wxl | cuz with things like this having the EXACT info is usually more helpful | 18:46 |
| wxl | it's also a lot quicker for you | 18:46 |
| bobsmith83 | I'm also chatting on a different machine | 18:47 |
| bobsmith83 | but I could go chat on the other one i guess | 18:48 |
| wxl | brb | 18:52 |
| bobsmith84 | ok, chatting from the t60 now. | 18:53 |
| bobsmith84 | wxl: from what you said before: the /dev/sda7 is the root partiton. There's a note in the /etc/fstab that says / was on /dev/sda7 during install | 19:00 |
| wxl | what does the UUID that was there correspond to? | 19:13 |
| bobsmith84 | i think its just /dev/sda7, the root partition | 19:14 |
| wxl | dat what i do :) | 19:14 |
| wxl | oops wrong chan | 19:14 |
| wxl | so what makes you think that that your home is in root? | 19:15 |
| bobsmith84 | when I right click on for example /home/downloads, it shows properties same size volume as the root volume | 19:16 |
| bobsmith84 | and, last night, I was downloading GB of data and it filled up root | 19:16 |
| wxl | is that computer connected to the internet? | 19:17 |
| bobsmith84 | it is now. i switched over to it | 19:17 |
| wxl | sudo apt install pastebinit; (sudo blkid; cat /etc/fstab; mount) | pastebinit | 19:18 |
| wxl | and then give me the resulting url | 19:18 |
| bobsmith84 | k | 19:19 |
| bobsmith84 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/26029802/ | 19:21 |
| wxl | ok and do you have a /home under / | 19:23 |
| bobsmith84 | I think so. whatever lubuntu built on install, i didnt modify the partitions at all | 19:24 |
| bobsmith84 | pastebinit pretty cool! | 19:24 |
| wxl | told ya so :) | 19:24 |
| wxl | if you do have a /home you most likely have a traditional set up WITHOUT a separate home | 19:26 |
| wxl | so you should go through the process of setting oen up and moving your home over there | 19:26 |
| bobsmith84 | yes. good thought | 19:26 |
| wxl | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving | 19:26 |
| wxl | i'm going to have some tea so good luck :) | 19:27 |
| bobsmith84 | woohoo! i do that, and check back with ya later then. cheers! | 19:27 |
| opancado | hello... help me for upgrade lubuntu 15.10 to 17.10 | 22:20 |
| opancado | help me for upgrade lubuntu 15.10 to 17.10 for terminal | 22:22 |
| opancado | please help me | 22:24 |
| opancado | help me for upgrade lubuntu 15.10 to 17.10 | 22:24 |
| wxl | opancado: you realize this is a holiday in the US, right? | 22:24 |
| wxl | `sudo do-release-upgrade` | 22:24 |
| opancado | An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool. message for tgerminal | 22:25 |
| opancado | terminal | 22:25 |
| wxl | was worried about that. you can grab a new iso and use it to upgrade | 22:25 |
| opancado | don't upgrade this version? | 22:27 |
| opancado | sudo do-release-upgrade -d [sudo] password for rocha: Verificando por uma nova versão do Ubuntu Nenhuma nova versão encontrada rocha@rocha-C14CR21:~$ !eolupgrade bash: !eolupgrade: event not found rocha@rocha-C14CR21:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade Verificando por uma nova versão do Ubuntu Não há mais suporte para a sua versão do Ubuntu. Para informações sobre atualização, visite: http://www.ubuntu.com/releaseendoflife Obte | 22:28 |
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