[09:16] If one wants to rebuild the live cd for their own specific use cases, what is the recommended workflow? I've been using the Live CD Customization guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization), but I was hoping there would be an easier way of just booting into the live environment, customizing the GUI, then saving it to an installable ISO. [09:17] I'm curious to know how the Lubuntu dev team is doing this. [09:17] ShellcatZero: you might want to ask in #lubuntu-devel then :) [09:17] Hmm, ok [09:19] I'm assuming that's where devs lurk, according to /topic [09:21] Cool, I assumed there would be devs here as well to help answer user questions, I assumed the dev channel was strictly for Lubuntu devs to discuss development. [09:55] ShellcatZero: oh there could be devs here as well, but this channel tends to be *really* idle [13:57] can anyone point me in the direction of a good install guide for dell laptops? i have a mini 1012 that was running ubuntu great now it freezes upon boot with newer versions, same thing with lubuntu after first boot [17:24] good morning turkeys [17:25] I've got some problems created by "sloppy" partitioning. anyone want to help me try clean it up? [17:26] I started the system with trisquel install, then added lubuntu. Now, it appears my /home in lubuntu is residing in root! yikes! how to fix? [17:43] is there anyone around who can help me with a software updater issue? [17:44] bobsmith83: you mean /root/home/bobsmith? [17:44] go for it GuyFawkes [17:45] Software Update gets triggered somehow, but when I click on Install Now, it starts but fails [17:45] what's the fail? [17:45] it doesn't complete the download and install...Software Update crashes? [17:46] and there's no error or anything? that seems unlikely [17:46] nope, no error [17:46] no crash dialog? nothing? you just click it and everything disappears? [17:47] correct, that's what happens. I get a bit of a progress bar, and then poof [17:48] is there a sudo apt-get I can do from terminal? [17:48] i've never seen such a thing before. every unclean exit should produce a crash dialog [17:48] however, you can just `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade` [17:48] or apt-get update I suppose [17:49] thanks...thats the full command? I'm not really Terminal smart. lacking in command line fu [17:49] yep, just need to give it your password, assuming you're in sudoers [17:50] I am. I'mma give it a whack right now... [17:52] 44% progress and climbing. thank you @wxl [17:52] GuyFawkes: also check /var/crash for crash reports [17:53] my /home/bobsmith appears to be on /dev/sda7 mounted at '/', a partition that is just 7.8gb [17:54] ah that's a mount issue. edit /etc/fstab appropriately [17:54] cool! that doesnt seem too hard? [17:54] nope [17:55] ls /var/crash ? [17:55] yeah [17:56] nothing [17:56] huh [17:56] ls /var/crash and all I get is a command prompt [17:56] what does `grep problem_types /etc/apport/crashdb.conf` return? [17:57] or more importantly is there a # in front of it? [17:57] and now I see a software update window... [17:57] standby... [17:59] where to start? terminal- [17:59] bobsmith83: have you picked an editor yet? [17:59] 'Bug', 'Package' [17:59] leafpad for now [18:00] GuyFawkes: but is there a # at the beginning? [18:00] bobsmith83: have you picked a TERMINAL editor? [18:00] no [18:01] GuyFawkes: ok, now give me the number when you `grep enabled /etc/default/apport` [18:01] hmmm, i guess not. suggest? [18:01] bobsmith83: easy: nano. best: well, everyone's going to have their own opinions but usually either vi or emacs. both will require some reading to know how to use them, but once you do they're very efficient. [18:02] 1 [18:02] I used vi back in college days. acient history... [18:03] GuyFawkes: now what do you get from `service apport status | grep Active` [18:04] Active: active (exited) since Thu 2017-11-23 11:34:15 EST; 1h 29min ago [18:04] ok so that says the crash reporter is working [18:05] GuyFawkes: are you done updating software yet? [18:05] software updater says I should reboot [18:05] gonna be here a few minutes? I'll go and do that [18:06] it's not necessary [18:06] as long as the process is done you're good [18:06] just means you have a new kernel :) [18:07] anyways, run `update-manager` in terminal and let me know if it behaves as you expect [18:09] how do I get into editor? just type vi? or do i need to apt-get install first? [18:09] you should already have it [18:11] so I'm back...where do we go from here, or are we done? [18:11] hit vi- what now? it up on start screen. bringing but bad memories working in campus computer lab debugging c+ programs... [18:12] oh hahahahaha [18:12] i'm not giving you a vi class buddy :) [18:12] but i'll give you a really quick one: [18:12] i will go to INSERT mode [18:12] escape will get you to normal mode [18:12] to write and quit in normal mode, ZZ [18:13] crap- maybe i should go to nano instead?! [18:13] you can also :q! to get out without saving [18:13] `sudo vi /etc/fstab` [18:15] wow, people still use vi? omg, its too painful [18:15] I cant even q! [18:15] GuyFawkes: >: oops sorry [18:16] meant that for bobsmith83 [18:16] GuyFawkes: for you, run `update-manager` in the terminal and see if it behaves like normal [18:16] i should wait my turn, sorry guy [18:17] uhhh....sudo update-manager? [18:18] no you shouldn't need sudo [18:19] "the software on this computer is up-to-date" [18:19] thank you! [18:19] GuyFawkes: no problem [18:20] vi scared me for life. I swore at it more than anything! and I swore I'd never touch it again after that class! its back to haunt me. all these repressed memories bubbling up now! insane! [18:20] GuyFawkes: if you have problems again, use `ubuntu-bug update-manager` [18:20] bobsmith83: oh just use `nano` you big baby XD [18:21] lol! [18:21] noted. again, thanks, and happy turkey day if you're in that jurisdiction [18:21] no problem GuyFawkes have a good day [18:21] ok, i'll try it... [18:23] believe me, I hate to ask to have my hand held, but... [18:24] sudo vi nano /etc/fstab [18:24] make sure that sda7 points to /home [18:25] and make sure you have a root in there! [18:25] sudo fdisk -l should help you figure out the right one (it's bootable) [18:27] i did sudo vi nano /etc/fstab, now I'm in vi, and it says "nano" new file [18:28] omg [18:28] sorry [18:28] my problem is i don't ever use nano. i'm just too used to using vi :) [18:28] you totally did that on purpose! [18:28] `sudo nano /etc/fstab` [18:28] just hit ESC : q ! ENTER in that order [18:30] i just closed that window [18:30] so you use vi, huh? [18:31] oh yeah [18:31] additional benefit: super easy to use on mobile [18:31] well, I'm sure if you use it often, its great [18:31] I'm in nano [18:32] see here for examples https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab [18:33] tl;dr you should have: [18:33] some-way-of-identifying-the-partition mount-location file-type options 0 fsck-order [18:34] there's not much in here really. first line is UUID= blahblahblah [18:34] for fsck order, you probably want / to be 1 and /home 2 [18:34] second line is /swapfile none [18:34] the UUIDs are a way of refering to the partition [18:34] what's the mount point of that one? / i'm assuming? [18:35] yes [18:35] options = "errors=remount-ro" [18:35] that seems strange [18:35] run `sudo blkid` in a separate window/tab/whatever [18:35] btw `tmux` is a "window manager" for terminal [18:37] ok, I've also got gparted up for help, and a file manager window. but they dont tell me everything [18:37] i didn't say gparted, did i? :) [18:38] I dont mind cheating alittle [18:38] not if it doesn't help... [18:42] maybe i should study that page you sent me and ask questions later? maybe you can give me a high level of how /etc/fstab should be set up? considering the problem i have where the /home seems to be mounted to / instead of a /home partiton? [18:42] get the UUID of the / partition and then replace the UUID of the /dev/sda7 partition (which should be what's in there) with it [18:42] done [18:42] ..except [18:43] you also have a separate home partition? [18:44] here's my current partitions: [18:44] you can just use "defaults" for the options [18:44] don't paste it here! [18:45] no? I was not going to paste, just explain [18:45] ok [18:45] well you can use pastebin [18:45] in fact: [18:45] !pastebinit [18:45] pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit [18:46] sounds cool, but not now... [18:46] cuz with things like this having the EXACT info is usually more helpful [18:46] it's also a lot quicker for you [18:47] I'm also chatting on a different machine [18:48] but I could go chat on the other one i guess [18:52] brb [18:53] ok, chatting from the t60 now. [19:00] wxl: from what you said before: the /dev/sda7 is the root partiton. There's a note in the /etc/fstab that says / was on /dev/sda7 during install [19:13] what does the UUID that was there correspond to? [19:14] i think its just /dev/sda7, the root partition [19:14] dat what i do :) [19:14] oops wrong chan [19:15] so what makes you think that that your home is in root? [19:16] when I right click on for example /home/downloads, it shows properties same size volume as the root volume [19:16] and, last night, I was downloading GB of data and it filled up root [19:17] is that computer connected to the internet? [19:17] it is now. i switched over to it [19:18] sudo apt install pastebinit; (sudo blkid; cat /etc/fstab; mount) | pastebinit [19:18] and then give me the resulting url [19:19] k [19:21] http://paste.ubuntu.com/26029802/ [19:23] ok and do you have a /home under / [19:24] I think so. whatever lubuntu built on install, i didnt modify the partitions at all [19:24] pastebinit pretty cool! [19:24] told ya so :) [19:26] if you do have a /home you most likely have a traditional set up WITHOUT a separate home [19:26] so you should go through the process of setting oen up and moving your home over there [19:26] yes. good thought [19:26] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving [19:27] i'm going to have some tea so good luck :) [19:27] woohoo! i do that, and check back with ya later then. cheers! [22:20] hello... help me for upgrade lubuntu 15.10 to 17.10 [22:22] help me for upgrade lubuntu 15.10 to 17.10 for terminal [22:24] please help me [22:24] help me for upgrade lubuntu 15.10 to 17.10 [22:24] opancado: you realize this is a holiday in the US, right? [22:24] `sudo do-release-upgrade` [22:25] An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool. message for tgerminal [22:25] terminal [22:25] was worried about that. you can grab a new iso and use it to upgrade [22:27] don't upgrade this version? [22:28] sudo do-release-upgrade -d [sudo] password for rocha: Verificando por uma nova versão do Ubuntu Nenhuma nova versão encontrada rocha@rocha-C14CR21:~$ !eolupgrade bash: !eolupgrade: event not found rocha@rocha-C14CR21:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade Verificando por uma nova versão do Ubuntu Não há mais suporte para a sua versão do Ubuntu. Para informações sobre atualização, visite: http://www.ubuntu.com/releaseendoflife Obte === BrAsS_mOnKeY is now known as g2`