[09:16] <ShellcatZero> If one wants to rebuild the live cd for their own specific use cases, what is the recommended workflow?  I've been using the Live CD Customization guide (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization), but I was hoping there would be an easier way of just booting into the live environment, customizing the GUI, then saving it to an installable ISO.
[09:17] <ShellcatZero> I'm curious to know how the Lubuntu dev team is doing this.
[09:17] <hateball> ShellcatZero: you might want to ask in #lubuntu-devel then :)
[09:17] <ShellcatZero> Hmm, ok
[09:19] <hateball> I'm assuming that's where devs lurk, according to /topic
[09:21] <ShellcatZero> Cool, I assumed there would be devs here as well to help answer user questions, I assumed the dev channel was strictly for Lubuntu devs to discuss development.
[09:55] <hateball> ShellcatZero: oh there could be devs here as well, but this channel tends to be *really* idle
[13:57] <LandLubber> can anyone point me in the direction of a good install guide for dell laptops?  i have a mini 1012 that was running ubuntu great now it freezes upon boot with newer versions, same thing with lubuntu after first boot
[17:24] <bobsmith83> good morning turkeys
[17:25] <bobsmith83> I've got some problems created by "sloppy" partitioning.  anyone want to help me try clean it up?
[17:26] <bobsmith83> I started the system with trisquel install, then added lubuntu.  Now, it appears my /home in lubuntu is residing in root!  yikes! how to fix?
[17:43] <GuyFawkes> is there anyone around who can help me with a software updater issue?
[17:44] <wxl> bobsmith83: you mean /root/home/bobsmith?
[17:44] <wxl> go for it GuyFawkes
[17:45] <GuyFawkes> Software Update gets triggered somehow, but when I click on Install Now, it starts but fails
[17:45] <wxl> what's the fail?
[17:45] <GuyFawkes> it doesn't complete the download and install...Software Update crashes?
[17:46] <wxl> and there's no error or anything? that seems unlikely
[17:46] <GuyFawkes> nope, no error
[17:46] <wxl> no crash dialog? nothing? you just click it and everything disappears?
[17:47] <GuyFawkes> correct, that's what happens.  I get a bit of a progress bar, and then poof
[17:48] <GuyFawkes> is there a sudo apt-get I can do from terminal?
[17:48] <wxl> i've never seen such a thing before. every unclean exit should produce a crash dialog
[17:48] <wxl> however, you can just `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`
[17:48] <GuyFawkes> or apt-get update I suppose
[17:49] <GuyFawkes> thanks...thats the full command?  I'm not really Terminal smart.  lacking in command line fu
[17:49] <wxl> yep, just need to give it your password, assuming you're in sudoers
[17:50] <GuyFawkes> I am.  I'mma give it a whack right now...
[17:52] <GuyFawkes> 44% progress and climbing.  thank you @wxl
[17:52] <wxl> GuyFawkes: also check /var/crash for crash reports
[17:53] <bobsmith83> my /home/bobsmith appears to be on /dev/sda7 mounted at '/', a partition that is just 7.8gb
[17:54] <wxl> ah that's a mount issue. edit /etc/fstab appropriately
[17:54] <bobsmith83> cool! that doesnt seem too hard?
[17:54] <wxl> nope
[17:55] <GuyFawkes> ls /var/crash ?
[17:55] <wxl> yeah
[17:56] <GuyFawkes> nothing
[17:56] <wxl> huh
[17:56] <GuyFawkes> ls /var/crash <enter> and all I get is a command prompt
[17:56] <wxl> what does `grep problem_types /etc/apport/crashdb.conf` return?
[17:57] <wxl> or more importantly is there a # in front of it?
[17:57] <GuyFawkes> and now I see a software update window...
[17:57] <GuyFawkes> standby...
[17:59] <bobsmith83> where to start? terminal-
[17:59] <wxl> bobsmith83: have you picked an editor yet?
[17:59] <GuyFawkes> 'Bug', 'Package'
[17:59] <bobsmith83> leafpad for now
[18:00] <wxl> GuyFawkes: but is there a # at the beginning?
[18:00] <wxl> bobsmith83: have you picked a TERMINAL editor?
[18:00] <GuyFawkes> no
[18:01] <wxl> GuyFawkes: ok, now give me the number when you `grep enabled /etc/default/apport`
[18:01] <bobsmith83> hmmm, i guess not. suggest?
[18:01] <wxl> bobsmith83: easy: nano. best: well, everyone's going to have their own opinions but usually either vi or emacs. both will require some reading to know how to use them, but once you do they're very efficient.
[18:02] <GuyFawkes> 1
[18:02] <bobsmith83> I used vi back in college days.  acient history...
[18:03] <wxl> GuyFawkes: now what do you get from `service apport status | grep Active`
[18:04] <GuyFawkes> Active: active (exited) since Thu 2017-11-23 11:34:15 EST; 1h 29min ago
[18:04] <wxl> ok so that says the crash reporter is working
[18:05] <wxl> GuyFawkes: are you done updating software yet?
[18:05] <GuyFawkes> software updater says I should reboot
[18:05] <GuyFawkes> gonna be here a few minutes?  I'll go and do that
[18:06] <wxl> it's not necessary
[18:06] <wxl> as long as the process is done you're good
[18:06] <wxl> just means you have a new kernel :)
[18:07] <wxl> anyways, run `update-manager` in terminal and let me know if it behaves as you expect
[18:09] <bobsmith83> how do I get into editor? just type vi? or do i need to apt-get install first?
[18:09] <wxl> you should already have it
[18:11] <GuyFawkes> so I'm back...where do we go from here, or are we done?
[18:11] <bobsmith83> hit vi- what now? it up on start screen.  bringing but bad memories working in campus computer lab debugging c+ programs...
[18:12] <wxl> oh hahahahaha
[18:12] <wxl> i'm not giving you a vi class buddy :)
[18:12] <wxl> but i'll give you a really quick one:
[18:12] <wxl> i will go to INSERT mode
[18:12] <wxl> escape will get you to normal mode
[18:12] <wxl> to write and quit in normal mode, ZZ
[18:13] <bobsmith83> crap- maybe i should go to nano instead?!
[18:13] <wxl> you can also :q! to get out without saving
[18:13] <wxl> `sudo vi /etc/fstab`
[18:15] <bobsmith83> wow, people still use vi? omg, its too painful
[18:15] <bobsmith83> I cant even q!
[18:15] <wxl> GuyFawkes: >:<q!
[18:16] <wxl> oops sorry
[18:16] <wxl> meant that for bobsmith83
[18:16] <wxl> GuyFawkes: for you, run `update-manager` in the terminal and see if it behaves like normal
[18:16] <bobsmith83> i should wait my turn, sorry guy
[18:17] <GuyFawkes> uhhh....sudo update-manager?
[18:18] <wxl> no you shouldn't need sudo
[18:19] <GuyFawkes> "the software on this computer is up-to-date"
[18:19] <GuyFawkes> thank you!
[18:19] <wxl> GuyFawkes: no problem
[18:20] <bobsmith83> vi scared me for life.  I swore at it more than anything! and I swore I'd never touch it again after that class! its back to haunt me.  all these repressed memories bubbling up now!  insane!
[18:20] <wxl> GuyFawkes: if you have problems again, use `ubuntu-bug update-manager`
[18:20] <wxl> bobsmith83: oh just use `nano` you big baby XD
[18:21] <bobsmith83> lol!
[18:21] <GuyFawkes> noted.  again, thanks, and happy turkey day if you're in that jurisdiction
[18:21] <wxl> no problem GuyFawkes have a good day
[18:21] <bobsmith83> ok, i'll try it...
[18:23] <bobsmith83> believe me, I hate to ask to have my hand held, but...
[18:24] <wxl> sudo vi nano /etc/fstab
[18:24] <wxl> make sure that sda7 points to /home
[18:25] <wxl> and make sure you have a root in there!
[18:25] <wxl> sudo fdisk -l should help you figure out the right one (it's bootable)
[18:27] <bobsmith83> i did sudo vi nano /etc/fstab, now I'm in vi, and it says "nano" new file
[18:28] <wxl> omg
[18:28] <wxl> sorry
[18:28] <wxl> my problem is i don't ever use nano. i'm just too used to using vi :)
[18:28] <bobsmith83> you totally did that on purpose!
[18:28] <wxl> `sudo nano /etc/fstab`
[18:28] <wxl> just hit ESC : q ! ENTER in that order
[18:30] <bobsmith83> i just closed that window
[18:30] <bobsmith83> so you use vi, huh?
[18:31] <wxl> oh yeah
[18:31] <wxl> additional benefit: super easy to use on mobile
[18:31] <bobsmith83> well, I'm sure if you use it often, its great
[18:31] <bobsmith83> I'm in nano
[18:32] <wxl> see here for examples https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[18:33] <wxl> tl;dr you should have:
[18:33] <wxl> some-way-of-identifying-the-partition mount-location file-type options 0 fsck-order
[18:34] <bobsmith83> there's not much in here really.  first line is UUID= blahblahblah
[18:34] <wxl> for fsck order, you probably want / to be 1 and /home 2
[18:34] <bobsmith83> second line is /swapfile   none
[18:34] <wxl> the UUIDs are a way of refering to the partition
[18:34] <wxl> what's the mount point of that one? / i'm assuming?
[18:35] <bobsmith83> yes
[18:35] <bobsmith83> options = "errors=remount-ro"
[18:35] <bobsmith83> that seems strange
[18:35] <wxl> run `sudo blkid` in a separate window/tab/whatever
[18:35] <wxl> btw `tmux` is a "window manager" for terminal
[18:37] <bobsmith83> ok, I've also got gparted up for help, and a file manager window.  but they dont tell me everything
[18:37] <wxl> i didn't say gparted, did i? :)
[18:38] <bobsmith83> I dont mind cheating alittle
[18:38] <wxl> not if it doesn't help...
[18:42] <bobsmith83> maybe i should study that page you sent me and ask questions later?  maybe you can give me a high level of how /etc/fstab should be set up? considering the problem i have where the /home seems to be mounted to / instead of a /home partiton?
[18:42] <wxl> get the UUID of the / partition and then replace the UUID of the /dev/sda7 partition (which should be what's in there) with it
[18:42] <wxl> done
[18:42] <wxl> ..except
[18:43] <wxl> you also have a separate home partition?
[18:44] <bobsmith83> here's my current partitions:
[18:44] <wxl> you can just use "defaults" for the options
[18:44] <wxl> don't paste it here!
[18:45] <bobsmith83> no? I was not going to paste, just explain
[18:45] <wxl> ok
[18:45] <wxl> well you can use pastebin
[18:45] <wxl> in fact:
[18:45] <wxl> !pastebinit
[18:46] <bobsmith83> sounds cool, but not now...
[18:46] <wxl> cuz with things like this having the EXACT info is usually more helpful
[18:46] <wxl> it's also a lot quicker for you
[18:47] <bobsmith83> I'm also chatting on a different machine
[18:48] <bobsmith83> but I could go chat on the other one i guess
[18:52] <wxl> brb
[18:53] <bobsmith84> ok, chatting from the t60 now.
[19:00] <bobsmith84> wxl: from what you said before: the /dev/sda7 is the root partiton.  There's a note in the /etc/fstab that says / was on /dev/sda7 during install
[19:13] <wxl> what does the UUID that was there correspond to?
[19:14] <bobsmith84> i think its just /dev/sda7, the root partition
[19:14] <wxl> dat what i do :)
[19:14] <wxl> oops wrong chan
[19:15] <wxl> so what makes you think that that your home is in root?
[19:16] <bobsmith84> when I right click on for example /home/downloads, it shows properties same size volume as the root volume
[19:16] <bobsmith84> and, last night, I was downloading GB of data and it filled up root
[19:17] <wxl> is that computer connected to the internet?
[19:17] <bobsmith84> it is now.  i switched over to it
[19:18] <wxl> sudo apt install pastebinit; (sudo blkid; cat /etc/fstab; mount) | pastebinit
[19:18] <wxl> and then give me the resulting url
[19:19] <bobsmith84> k
[19:21] <bobsmith84> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26029802/
[19:23] <wxl> ok and do you have a /home under /
[19:24] <bobsmith84> I think so.  whatever lubuntu built on install, i didnt modify the partitions at all
[19:24] <bobsmith84> pastebinit pretty cool!
[19:24] <wxl> told ya so :)
[19:26] <wxl> if you do have a /home you most likely have a traditional set up WITHOUT a separate home
[19:26] <wxl> so you should go through the process of setting oen up and moving your home over there
[19:26] <bobsmith84> yes.  good thought
[19:26] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[19:27] <wxl> i'm going to have some tea so good luck :)
[19:27] <bobsmith84> woohoo!  i do that, and check back with ya later then.  cheers!
[22:20] <opancado> hello... help me for upgrade lubuntu 15.10 to 17.10
[22:22] <opancado> help me for upgrade lubuntu 15.10 to 17.10 for terminal
[22:24] <opancado> please help me
[22:24] <opancado> help me for upgrade lubuntu 15.10 to 17.10
[22:24] <wxl> opancado: you realize this is a holiday in the US, right?
[22:24] <wxl> `sudo do-release-upgrade`
[22:25] <opancado> An upgrade from 'vivid' to 'xenial' is not supported with this tool.  message for tgerminal
[22:25] <opancado> terminal
[22:25] <wxl> was worried about that. you can grab a new iso and use it to upgrade
[22:27] <opancado> don't upgrade this version?
[22:28] <opancado> sudo do-release-upgrade -d [sudo] password for rocha:  Verificando por uma nova versão do Ubuntu Nenhuma nova versão encontrada rocha@rocha-C14CR21:~$ !eolupgrade bash: !eolupgrade: event not found rocha@rocha-C14CR21:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade Verificando por uma nova versão do Ubuntu Não há mais suporte para a sua versão do Ubuntu. Para informações sobre atualização, visite: http://www.ubuntu.com/releaseendoflife  Obte