[06:36] good morning [07:08] good morning desktoppers [07:16] salut oSoMoN [07:21] salut didrocks! Martin va mieux? [07:28] oSoMoN: bof, 39.8°C cette nuit, mais au moins, ça descend avec le doliprane. 38.4 ce matin [07:28] et réveillé très tôt [07:52] didrocks: bonojour ! uh, bon rétablissement pour le petit Martin ! [08:18] bonjour pitti, merci ! :) === sil2100_ is now known as sil2100 [08:53] morning [08:56] hey willcooke [08:57] good morning willcooke [09:03] ello [09:05] good morning desktopers [09:05] hey willcooke oSoMoN Laney [09:05] re didrocks [09:06] o/ [09:06] how is everyone today? [09:06] giving thanks [09:06] * Laney waits for the thanks [09:06] oh, right, that day [09:06] hey seb128!!! [09:06] "The day before black Friday Day" [09:07] don't expect the frenchs to buy into english-speaking-people traditions :p [09:07] :)) [09:07] * Laney has been to the physio this morning [09:07] LAME [09:07] your shoulder still? [09:08] problems reoccured [09:09] :/ [09:10] getting a surgical opinion! [09:10] https://giphy.com/gifs/turk-t5WU6eFWmwwla [09:13] good luck Laney [09:13] thx [09:14] salut seb128 [09:14] they might not be able to offer anything, but worth seeing I guess [09:14] :'( hope I can still climb :'( [09:14] anyway [09:14] how's it going for everybody else? [09:14] bonjour seb128 et Laney ! [09:15] between broken RHEL infra and sucking Chrome debug protocol, pretty well actually :) basketball was fun last night, the good kind of sore muscles today :) [09:15] salut pitti, comment ça va ? [09:15] Laney: ouch, shoulder sounds awful; sports? or the lack thereof? [09:16] seb128: ça va bien, merci ! et toi ? [09:17] not too bad here. The black Friday thing is getting big around here too, collective consumer craziness… [09:17] hey pitti [09:17] still doing chrome stuff? [09:18] pitti: yeah I dislocated it a couple of times while climbing :( [09:18] Laney: yeah, still trying to ditch PhantomJS [09:18] https://fedorapeople.org/groups/cockpit/logs/pull-8069-20171122-232121-f56c5a77-verify-fedora-27/backup.U76MqO/log.html#152 [09:18] pitti, I think I'm starting to get the babyflu but good otherwise! [09:18] 153 down, 12 to go! [09:19] I don't get that black friday thing [09:20] are the special offers on that day so much better than regular discounts and such you can find during the year? [09:20] was hearing on the radio that they're often fake discounts [09:20] like raise the price earlier in November compared to before [09:20] then you can claim a bigger % discount [09:21] the guy's advice was to wait until late in December to buy stuff [09:21] uk.camelcamelcamel.com is your friend (for Amazon stuff anyway) [09:22] But yeah, the "special" prices are very ordinary when you look at the history over the year [09:22] ya that's a good one [09:23] * didrocks might buy a ps4 [09:23] * willcooke too [09:23] I want the VR headset [09:23] but $$$$$$ [09:24] didrocks, one for 30€? ;) [09:25] seb128: ahah, I wish I was quick enough, and I wish they would honored the command despite their mistake :p [09:25] :p [09:25] which it seems they won't :p [09:25] scandalous! [09:25] right [09:25] they said they would give a 10€ voucher [09:25] lame! [09:25] after raising the PS4 pro price by 10€ ;) [09:26] willcooke: there's a new version of the PSVR coming out shortly, which is why there's lots of deals for the current version [09:26] willcooke: still waiting for a killer VR game, not convinced yet [09:26] but I have the whole PS4 game catalog backlog to play first ;) [09:26] jamesh, oooooh!!! Nice tip, thanks [09:27] pitti, since you are around I'm going to try my chance and ask if you know about systemd-resolved issues under captive portal (bug #1727237), one of the comment state that the captive portal dns doesn't get added, unsure if that's true/the issue/is a n-m pb... just asking in case you have an idea of know if it's a known issue [09:27] bug 1727237 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-resolved is not finding a domain" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1727237 [09:27] Could it be related to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1624320 as well? [09:27] Launchpad bug 1624320 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-resolved appends 127.0.0.53 to resolv.conf alongside existing entries" [Low,Confirmed] [09:28] i have a similar bug on xenial.. wife can't connect to her outlook account because of dns issues [09:28] xenial doesn't use systemd-resolved though [09:29] ok, something fishy still [09:30] yeah, I guess it needs debugging, difficult to say like that [09:34] seb128, I've prepared a new libreoffice upload, need your sponsoring: https://people.canonical.com/~osomon/libreoffice-5.4.3/ [09:35] oSoMoN, how is that ppu application going? :p [09:36] just kidding, let me have a look and do it now so I don't get busy on other things and delay as I did a couple of times [09:37] nice to see that the previous one migrated, it means they sort out some of the transitions! [09:39] yeah the migration of hell went in [09:39] well done to those involved! [09:41] seb128, thanks! let me get a few more sponsored uploads under my belt before I start thinking of PPU ;) [09:44] jamesh, would you mind commenting on https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/call-for-testing-libreoffice-5-4-3/2935/2 ? should snaps see fonts in ~/.fonts ? [09:44] oSoMoN, uploads done :) [09:50] oSoMoN: sure. [09:50] hey jamesh! how are you? [09:50] seb128, jamesh: thanks! [09:50] oSoMoN, np [09:51] oSoMoN: as an initial guess, the sandbox can probably read the fonts but doesn't see them due to $HOME being changed [09:52] seb128: good. Learning how to put together some spread tests for some of the snapd PRs I've been working on [09:53] seb128: and looking forward to the charity bike ride on Sunday [09:54] jamesh, what are the snaps/desktop improvement coming? I liked to read about this in your summary in the meeting but you missed a few ones recently I think [09:55] I saw you updated the user mounts one, is that the main thing atm? [09:55] seb128: yeah. The user-mounts one is infrastructure to support xdg-document-portal [09:57] seb128: once I've got that sorted, I plan to add portal access to the desktop interface. Combined with a patched xdg-desktop-portal, we should be able to support functional desktop apps without access to the user's full home dir [09:58] nice [10:06] oSoMoN: I think the fonts thing can be fixed in the snapcraft-desktop-helpers part === krashekspress_ is now known as krashekspress [13:52] Hello all :) ! === ricotz_ is now known as ricotz [13:54] Trevinho: I'm in the process to translate Compiz a11y modules into French. How can I give new the updated translation ? [13:55] There is this bug about translation : https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1722732 [13:55] Launchpad bug 1722732 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Modules not translatable" [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:55] Do you want a code merge request until the Lauchpad translation module works ? [14:26] hey all, any idea why I wouldn't be able to switch to vt3..vt9? vt1 is gdm, vt2 is my session, and trying to switch to any other with Ctrl+Alt+F3..F9 just results in input being gone, but I can still see my vt2 session... [15:36] Saviq, humm, I think we saw that somewhere else... [15:36] didrocks, do you remember hearing about that one? ^ (vts not switching properly) [15:37] didn't hear about that one, normally systemd is spawing them on demand [16:07] cyphermox, hey, how are you? [16:08] cyphermox, is there a chance you could have a look to [16:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1727237 . [16:08] Launchpad bug 1727237 in systemd (Ubuntu) "systemd-resolved is not finding a domain" [Undecided,Confirmed] [16:08] ? [16:13] sure, I'll have a look [16:52] didrocks: doesn't seem like that's the problem http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26029015/ [16:52] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26029017/ [16:52] waow, interesting… that the services are spawn… [16:53] didrocks: maybe I was going through Ctrl+Alt+F* and that triggered them? [16:53] * Saviq reboots [16:56] Saviq: yes, that triggers them AFAIK, but it should as well create the logind session [16:57] didrocks: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26029054/ [16:59] are you kidding? [16:59] you edited it [16:59] no? ;) [16:59] * didrocks is puzzled [17:00] I don't know enough of gdm, I think robert_ancell looked more into it [17:00] didrocks: nopes [17:00] but it's weird that your previous login didn't get that [17:01] you really expect gdm to spawn the first session on tty2 [17:01] then tty3, and so on… [17:01] do you have anything lightdm related still installed on your system? [17:01] I wonder if there a service listening to account-manager events and stepping up [17:07] didrocks: this is from fresh boot http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26029101/ [17:08] I do have lightdm installed still [17:08] but it's not running [17:08] ok, you have agetty running, this is all fine on my side but I didn't touch this systemd part for 3 years at least, I think this is something that xnox_ would follow more than I do as he's touching systemd quite a lot [17:09] sure, you're the victim is all since you replied ;) [17:09] I'll wait for some others you pung to weigh in a bit [17:09] why did I do that while I'm having in-depth conversation on #gnome-design? ;) [17:09] good luck! [17:10] didrocks, i was not in the channel in my irc client, but i got a push notification. [17:10] didrocks, somehow. [17:10] didrocks, i have no idea what the context is, something something systemd something something? [17:11] why have you enabled such things? :) [17:11] Saviq: ^ [17:11] didrocks, to stalk people. [17:11] xnox: context is: //pastebin.ubuntu.com/26029101/ [17:11] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26029101/ [17:11] didrocks, znc-push plugin in the znc bouncer [17:11] crazy ;) [17:12] Saviq, ok, what is your emergency? [17:13] Saviq, the pastebin looks fine; gdm on tty1, logged in user on tty2, first regular getty console available is tty3. Welcome to the new world order, where login manager is not on tty7 [17:13] Saviq, thus you need ctrl-alt-f3 to get a getty terminal.... [17:13] xnox: you missed the "====== Ctrl+Alt+F3, input lost, then Ctrl+Alt+F2, back to the session ====== [17:13] instead of like ctrl-alt-f1 [17:13] " [17:13] no input [17:13] xnox: yeah, ctrl+alt+f1 just moves input to vt3 [17:13] or logging prompt [17:13] ah [17:13] but not graphics [17:13] halarious [17:13] I still see my vt2 session [17:14] that would be session management bullshit [17:14] i hate that my hangouts audio is killed when moving to like tty3 and back. [17:14] Saviq, can you do $ ubuntu-bug systemd -> and go from there? [17:14] sure [17:14] Saviq, i'm not sure how session stuff works, but it does smell broken. [17:15] Saviq, also comment things like if you are using wayland or x in session; in gdm; if you have rebooted since upgrading your system; etc. [17:15] Saviq, if there is something funky about the laptop.... [17:16] possibly need a dump from loginctl / udevadm to see if the devices are tagged with the right active seat and "move" appropriately with ctl-alt-f toggles.... [17:20] xnox: bug #1734160 [17:21] bug 1734160 in systemd (Ubuntu) "Ctrl+Alt+F* not switching to a text prompt, only between graphical sessions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1734160 [17:21] I could run `apport-collect` over ssh after Ctrl+Alt+F3 if that may shed a light [18:01] seb128: so, nothing jumps out in the DNS bug; and I'm not anywhere close to a captive portal to do some more digging (which is what I think will be the only way to figure it out); it will have to wait until tomorrow or next week [18:04] got to dash for a gig [18:04] laters! [19:21] Does Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic currently use the new gnome layout or is it regular? [19:21] Because I'm finding that I'm still seeing regular gnome even though my gnome-session package is gone. [20:49] cyphermox, k, well you took the time to have a look so thanks for that! [20:49] yetoo, hey, what do you call "new gnome layout"? [23:52] robert_ancell: hi, snapd-glib is now in Debian and synced to Ubuntu. https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/snapd-glib [23:53] are you interested in becoming a Debian Maintainer?