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bluesabreflocculant, ochosi, this seems like an improvement https://i.imgur.com/cXWUI52.png01:00
bluesabreoptions moved below, only shown if more than 1 device found, no longer bold, no longer including device type01:02
bluesabreUnit193: thoughts?01:09
Unit193Hi.01:10
bluesabreHowdy.01:10
Unit193I'm fairly sure I'm not the best to ask.01:11
bluesabre:D01:11
Unit193Perhaps it's good?01:11
Unit193(I plan on upgrading to ayatana-indicator-sound.)01:13
bluesabreAlrighty01:13
Unit193No offence meant. :301:14
bluesabreNone taken. Just more work to do to convert you ;)01:15
Unit193Based on the planned UI, I'm not too keen.  The function of the play/pause/etc is a bit finicky still, ayatana looks a bit better, and I can't stand switches (which I gather others like, soo..)01:16
Unit193I'm willing to test of course, mind.01:16
subhochosi: Hi, thanks for replying. Sorry I fell asleep. I know a bit python, not so good with c++. But I am good at learning new stuffs. So can you tell me if I can work on anything with my current skillset or do I need to acquire anything new to be able to contribute to anything to start with?01:36
Unit193bluesabre's applications tend to be python, Xfce is in C.01:36
Unit193(ochosi is the artwork guy, bluesabre is head of dev, I'm all around noise maker.)01:36
bluesabregtk-theme-config is in vala01:37
bluesabreWe have a few different options available :)01:37
bluesabresubh: We usually recommend just starting by looking around at bug reports or digging into things that are broken and annoy you01:42
bluesabreThe best way to get started is to be selfish :)01:42
Unit193We should create a list of low hanging fruit.01:43
subhbluesabre: I understand. But it can still be a lot for somebody who's just starting. 01:44
subhHad I asked you to give me something to start with, would you have anything in mind?01:44
bluesabresubh: maybe take a look at https://launchpad.net/sgt-launcher, it has a pretty simple code base and shows off some standard GTK+ python conventions01:45
bluesabresubh: otherwise, things that probably have some bugs in order of complexity ascending: lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings (https://launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings), mugshot (https://launchpad.net/mugshot), catfish (https://launchpad.net/catfish-search), and menulibre (https://launchpad.net/menulibre)01:47
bluesabreI wish I'd already identified some easy to tackle bugs, but if I did, they'd be tackled :)01:48
subhbluesabre: I understand your point :) I will go through those projects and try to pick up unresolved bugs. And I might ask you if I need any help. Thanks again.01:51
bluesabreSure thing, thanks subh!01:52
flocculantbluesabre: mmm - my 'issue' though is that it just looks like it's hanging there without the icon06:03
krytarikWith regards to the Custom Actions discussion earlier tonight, I should probably mention that we indeed have imagemagick on the images currently anyway, pulled in as a recommend of cups-filters.06:15
ochosibluesabre: indeed, that feels better!07:24
bluesabreflocculant: it looks a bit better with greybird where the separator line is visible, https://i.imgur.com/ywkoKcx.png11:04
bluesabre(looks like ochosi still needs to make the 100% tick visible in greybird)11:14
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knomethat subh* guy needs to be around more ;)15:55
knomeslickymaster, around?15:55
knomeapparently not15:55
knomewhat is atril's menu item name?15:59
knomeis it "Document Viewer" or not?15:59
knomeflexiondotorg, ^15:59
knomei guess i could also look it up but feeling lazy16:00
bluesabreknome: "Atril Document Viewer" it seems16:01
knomeright16:01
knomecheerio16:01
bluesabre:)16:02
bluesabreflocculant: I added multimedia key support to pa-plug... currently in git16:03
knomehttps://code.launchpad.net/~knome/xubuntu-docs/bionic-mate-apps-migration16:11
knomea docs branch ready to be merged if/once we decide to do the migration for good16:12
knomepleia2, flyer is updated with the new logo... though the content is still the same :)16:19
knomewe need to update at least the screenshot16:19
knomeochosi, what do you think if we actually moved onto one single plymouth background from 18.04?16:20
knomeochosi, eg. not a blurred version of the wallpaper, but something that was specifically "designed" for this?16:20
knomei guess everybody else as well ^16:21
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-docs:: [bionic-mate-apps-migration] r641 Prepare the change to MATE apps.... (by Pasi Lallinaho)16:24
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-docs:: [bionic-mate-apps-migration] r642 Update changelog... (by Pasi Lallinaho)16:24
knomepleia2, i made some notes about updating the flyer here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-b-marketing16:28
knomeslickymaster, ^16:29
knomebbl16:48
knomesubh, hello, and welcome ;)16:48
knomesubh, i've read you want to get involved with xubuntu before and just wanted to say hello before i leave... and say that feel free to ask any questions about anything related to xubuntu in this channel, regardless if people (you know) are around or not - we will eventually reply16:49
knomebut now, off to do sth completely different16:49
knomeo/16:49
pleia2knome: ok thanks, I'll have a look :)16:59
subhknome: Thanks! Will do. :)17:03
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flocculantbluesabre: if I had multimedia keys on the kbd I would test it ... sorry this time ;)17:50
flocculantbluesabre: re plugin - I'm not seeing anything in that imgur screeny that stops it - in fact the same thing can be seen at the bottom where Audio mixer ... random white space at the left17:52
pleia2knome: made some edits to the description to add some of my flyer ideas, it's time to add social media links! ;)17:54
knomepleia2, yeah... and do we really want to keep with the 3-fold? :)18:59
pleia2yeah, it's a thing18:59
knomehaha18:59
knomeok18:59
knomei suggest 6-fold then18:59
knomebecause it's obviously two times better!19:00
pleia2trollol19:00
knomeand it can fit the amount of content we can realistically maintain (:19:00
pleia2what would you suggest instead?19:00
knome(that was as much pointed to myself than anybody else)19:00
knomewell, maybe 2-fold19:00
knomeit's also easier to do for most people19:00
pleia2like a card?19:00
knomeyeah, it could be like a card19:01
knomeand with that thought, i think it could be smaller too19:01
pleia2yeah19:01
pleia2the current one has too many words19:01
knomelike half of the current total paper space19:01
* pleia2 nods19:01
knomeso A6 for the page size, meaning an A5 folded once19:02
knomeeg. two flyers per paper19:02
knomewe'll of course always have the "old" layout too, so we can still peruse that in case we have a special event or sth coming up19:02
knomethere's quite a lot in the current flyer we can drop without too much pain19:03
pleia2I'll have to look into what makes sense for professional printing19:03
knomelike the "asides", the debian, xfce stuff19:03
pleia2currently a 3-panel one is a thing places do, not sure about 1 per letter page19:03
pleia2s/1/219:03
knomeusually it's the standard sizes, so A5 is just as good as A4 for example19:03
knomeright, professional printing meaning small print shops that print the stuff for you "live"19:04
knomeyeah, but even if they only did one sheet, it's relatively easy to cut it into half19:04
knomeso even if they don't offer that...19:04
knomei mean ultimately we could even look into a yet smaller one19:04
pleia2yeah, but with vistaprint they even folded the 3 panel ones for me, that was spiffy :)19:04
knomeyeah19:05
knomelike a postcard-card19:05
pleia2I think a post card size we're getting into different terratory, not much of a flyer anymore19:05
knomethat's something completely different from a flyer, but it can serve the same purpose in a better way19:05
knomesure, but then again we can point people to our website more19:05
knomewhich is easier to maintain19:05
knomeand then the printed stuff doesn't get outdated so fast19:06
knomebut yes, i realize these are two different things19:06
knomewhich one would you rather pick up from a convention/event?19:06
knomea 3-fold US letter sized thing or a postcard?19:06
pleia2idk :)19:07
flexiondotorgknome: Saw the earlier ping about Atril naming. 19:07
knomethe postcard could even be designed as a postcard... like the address field etc. ready19:07
pleia2that would be cute19:07
knomeflexiondotorg, we figured it out, it's "Atril Document Viewer", right?19:07
knomeyep19:07
flexiondotorgThere is a simple way for me to address this for Xubuntu. 19:07
knomeflexiondotorg, the question was simply for our documentation purposes19:07
flexiondotorgIf you want to drop the Atril prefix. 19:07
knomenah, it's fine :)19:07
flexiondotorgOK19:07
knomepleia2, so then a nice image on the "front" and some preprinted text on the back of the card19:08
knomeplus probably some space for a customized message (or even autograph :P)19:08
knomeand then the usual postcard stuff19:08
knomei can draft this relatively quickly if we want to investigate it19:09
knome"The only ISO 216 size in the post card range is A6."19:10
knomewhich is not a problem, but actually a good thing, because one size only, right? :P19:10
pleia2maybe something to explore separate from the flyer :)19:10
knomesure19:10
knomei would still propose to migrate away from the 3-fold19:10
pleia2yeah it should be fine, probably want postcards printed on cardstock so printing at home is less likely19:10
knomebut if you want to keep that... i'll live with it19:10
knomeyep19:11
knomehmm, well, it seems vistaprint for example doesn't want A6, but tbh, it's easy enough to do one design and then just cut the borders from the smaller one19:12
pleia2yeah19:12
knomeor even do two very similar designs19:13
pleia2so the only reason I'd stick with the 3-panel is because we've already figured out sizing and stuff, we can just put in more pictures if we want it to be less tl;dr19:13
knomelol19:13
knomewfm19:13
knomeand yes, we probably want to do that19:13
knomewant a pad in which to figure out the text?19:13
pleia2sure19:14
knomewill put the text in here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-1804-flyer19:14
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knomei just started editing there, removing text i want to delete (eg. not striking through)19:19
pleia2ok19:20
knomebecause blah19:21
pleia2I need to get ready for family things momentarily19:21
knomesure, np19:21
knomehf :)19:21
pleia2thanks :)19:21
subh\quit19:34
knomei'm starting to think about the scribus alternative again...19:36
ochosiknome: re: plymouth yeah sounds sensible20:16
ochosibluesabre: yeah, i still need to make that tick visible...20:16
ochosiwoohoo, managed to create a LO pull request \o/ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/45175/20:19
ochosibluesabre: ok, the marks below the scale in pulseaudio plugin are now visible with Greybird20:39
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