[01:00] flocculant, ochosi, this seems like an improvement https://i.imgur.com/cXWUI52.png [01:02] options moved below, only shown if more than 1 device found, no longer bold, no longer including device type [01:09] Unit193: thoughts? [01:10] Hi. [01:10] Howdy. [01:11] I'm fairly sure I'm not the best to ask. [01:11] :D [01:11] Perhaps it's good? [01:13] (I plan on upgrading to ayatana-indicator-sound.) [01:13] Alrighty [01:14] No offence meant. :3 [01:15] None taken. Just more work to do to convert you ;) [01:16] Based on the planned UI, I'm not too keen. The function of the play/pause/etc is a bit finicky still, ayatana looks a bit better, and I can't stand switches (which I gather others like, soo..) [01:16] I'm willing to test of course, mind. [01:36] ochosi: Hi, thanks for replying. Sorry I fell asleep. I know a bit python, not so good with c++. But I am good at learning new stuffs. So can you tell me if I can work on anything with my current skillset or do I need to acquire anything new to be able to contribute to anything to start with? [01:36] bluesabre's applications tend to be python, Xfce is in C. [01:36] (ochosi is the artwork guy, bluesabre is head of dev, I'm all around noise maker.) [01:37] gtk-theme-config is in vala [01:37] We have a few different options available :) [01:42] subh: We usually recommend just starting by looking around at bug reports or digging into things that are broken and annoy you [01:42] The best way to get started is to be selfish :) [01:43] We should create a list of low hanging fruit. [01:44] bluesabre: I understand. But it can still be a lot for somebody who's just starting. [01:44] Had I asked you to give me something to start with, would you have anything in mind? [01:45] subh: maybe take a look at https://launchpad.net/sgt-launcher, it has a pretty simple code base and shows off some standard GTK+ python conventions [01:47] subh: otherwise, things that probably have some bugs in order of complexity ascending: lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings (https://launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings), mugshot (https://launchpad.net/mugshot), catfish (https://launchpad.net/catfish-search), and menulibre (https://launchpad.net/menulibre) [01:48] I wish I'd already identified some easy to tackle bugs, but if I did, they'd be tackled :) [01:51] bluesabre: I understand your point :) I will go through those projects and try to pick up unresolved bugs. And I might ask you if I need any help. Thanks again. [01:52] Sure thing, thanks subh! [06:03] bluesabre: mmm - my 'issue' though is that it just looks like it's hanging there without the icon [06:15] With regards to the Custom Actions discussion earlier tonight, I should probably mention that we indeed have imagemagick on the images currently anyway, pulled in as a recommend of cups-filters. [07:24] bluesabre: indeed, that feels better! [11:04] flocculant: it looks a bit better with greybird where the separator line is visible, https://i.imgur.com/ywkoKcx.png [11:14] (looks like ochosi still needs to make the 100% tick visible in greybird) === torv_ is now known as torv [15:55] that subh* guy needs to be around more ;) [15:55] slickymaster, around? [15:55] apparently not [15:59] what is atril's menu item name? [15:59] is it "Document Viewer" or not? [15:59] flexiondotorg, ^ [16:00] i guess i could also look it up but feeling lazy [16:01] knome: "Atril Document Viewer" it seems [16:01] right [16:01] cheerio [16:02] :) [16:03] flocculant: I added multimedia key support to pa-plug... currently in git [16:11] https://code.launchpad.net/~knome/xubuntu-docs/bionic-mate-apps-migration [16:12] a docs branch ready to be merged if/once we decide to do the migration for good [16:19] pleia2, flyer is updated with the new logo... though the content is still the same :) [16:19] we need to update at least the screenshot [16:20] ochosi, what do you think if we actually moved onto one single plymouth background from 18.04? [16:20] ochosi, eg. not a blurred version of the wallpaper, but something that was specifically "designed" for this? [16:21] i guess everybody else as well ^ [16:24] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-docs:: [bionic-mate-apps-migration] r641 Prepare the change to MATE apps.... (by Pasi Lallinaho) [16:24] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-docs:: [bionic-mate-apps-migration] r642 Update changelog... (by Pasi Lallinaho) [16:28] pleia2, i made some notes about updating the flyer here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-b-marketing [16:29] slickymaster, ^ [16:48] bbl [16:48] subh, hello, and welcome ;) [16:49] subh, i've read you want to get involved with xubuntu before and just wanted to say hello before i leave... and say that feel free to ask any questions about anything related to xubuntu in this channel, regardless if people (you know) are around or not - we will eventually reply [16:49] but now, off to do sth completely different [16:49] o/ [16:59] knome: ok thanks, I'll have a look :) [17:03] knome: Thanks! Will do. :) === sorinello__ is now known as sorinello [17:50] bluesabre: if I had multimedia keys on the kbd I would test it ... sorry this time ;) [17:52] bluesabre: re plugin - I'm not seeing anything in that imgur screeny that stops it - in fact the same thing can be seen at the bottom where Audio mixer ... random white space at the left [17:54] knome: made some edits to the description to add some of my flyer ideas, it's time to add social media links! ;) [18:59] pleia2, yeah... and do we really want to keep with the 3-fold? :) [18:59] yeah, it's a thing [18:59] haha [18:59] ok [18:59] i suggest 6-fold then [19:00] because it's obviously two times better! [19:00] trollol [19:00] and it can fit the amount of content we can realistically maintain (: [19:00] what would you suggest instead? [19:00] (that was as much pointed to myself than anybody else) [19:00] well, maybe 2-fold [19:00] it's also easier to do for most people [19:00] like a card? [19:01] yeah, it could be like a card [19:01] and with that thought, i think it could be smaller too [19:01] yeah [19:01] the current one has too many words [19:01] like half of the current total paper space [19:01] * pleia2 nods [19:02] so A6 for the page size, meaning an A5 folded once [19:02] eg. two flyers per paper [19:02] we'll of course always have the "old" layout too, so we can still peruse that in case we have a special event or sth coming up [19:03] there's quite a lot in the current flyer we can drop without too much pain [19:03] I'll have to look into what makes sense for professional printing [19:03] like the "asides", the debian, xfce stuff [19:03] currently a 3-panel one is a thing places do, not sure about 1 per letter page [19:03] s/1/2 [19:03] usually it's the standard sizes, so A5 is just as good as A4 for example [19:04] right, professional printing meaning small print shops that print the stuff for you "live" [19:04] yeah, but even if they only did one sheet, it's relatively easy to cut it into half [19:04] so even if they don't offer that... [19:04] i mean ultimately we could even look into a yet smaller one [19:04] yeah, but with vistaprint they even folded the 3 panel ones for me, that was spiffy :) [19:05] yeah [19:05] like a postcard-card [19:05] I think a post card size we're getting into different terratory, not much of a flyer anymore [19:05] that's something completely different from a flyer, but it can serve the same purpose in a better way [19:05] sure, but then again we can point people to our website more [19:05] which is easier to maintain [19:06] and then the printed stuff doesn't get outdated so fast [19:06] but yes, i realize these are two different things [19:06] which one would you rather pick up from a convention/event? [19:06] a 3-fold US letter sized thing or a postcard? [19:07] idk :) [19:07] knome: Saw the earlier ping about Atril naming. [19:07] the postcard could even be designed as a postcard... like the address field etc. ready [19:07] that would be cute [19:07] flexiondotorg, we figured it out, it's "Atril Document Viewer", right? [19:07] yep [19:07] There is a simple way for me to address this for Xubuntu. [19:07] flexiondotorg, the question was simply for our documentation purposes [19:07] If you want to drop the Atril prefix. [19:07] nah, it's fine :) [19:07] OK [19:08] pleia2, so then a nice image on the "front" and some preprinted text on the back of the card [19:08] plus probably some space for a customized message (or even autograph :P) [19:08] and then the usual postcard stuff [19:09] i can draft this relatively quickly if we want to investigate it [19:10] "The only ISO 216 size in the post card range is A6." [19:10] which is not a problem, but actually a good thing, because one size only, right? :P [19:10] maybe something to explore separate from the flyer :) [19:10] sure [19:10] i would still propose to migrate away from the 3-fold [19:10] yeah it should be fine, probably want postcards printed on cardstock so printing at home is less likely [19:10] but if you want to keep that... i'll live with it [19:11] yep [19:12] hmm, well, it seems vistaprint for example doesn't want A6, but tbh, it's easy enough to do one design and then just cut the borders from the smaller one [19:12] yeah [19:13] or even do two very similar designs [19:13] so the only reason I'd stick with the 3-panel is because we've already figured out sizing and stuff, we can just put in more pictures if we want it to be less tl;dr [19:13] lol [19:13] wfm [19:13] and yes, we probably want to do that [19:13] want a pad in which to figure out the text? [19:14] sure [19:14] will put the text in here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-1804-flyer === vinzv_away is now known as vinzv [19:19] i just started editing there, removing text i want to delete (eg. not striking through) [19:20] ok [19:21] because blah [19:21] I need to get ready for family things momentarily [19:21] sure, np [19:21] hf :) [19:21] thanks :) [19:34] \quit [19:36] i'm starting to think about the scribus alternative again... [20:16] knome: re: plymouth yeah sounds sensible [20:16] bluesabre: yeah, i still need to make that tick visible... [20:19] woohoo, managed to create a LO pull request \o/ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/45175/ [20:39] bluesabre: ok, the marks below the scale in pulseaudio plugin are now visible with Greybird === vinzv is now known as vinzv_away