[01:49] <stevie> hey
[01:49] <stevie> where are the default wallpapers located
[01:53] <krytarik> stevie: '/usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/'
[01:54] <stevie> ty
[02:26] <quint> I've installed the compton compositor in place of the default compositor for XFCE4 to mitigate screen tearing, when loading menus, they appear all black until the mouse enters them. Is there a setting I can apply to prevent this?
[02:48] <berkiyo> quint: I have an alternative if you don't want to use Compton
[02:49] <berkiyo> You can install xfwm 4.13 which for me (on intel gpu), eliminated tearing completely.
[03:19] <quint> berkiyo: I'll have a look at that
[03:20] <berkiyo> quint: Awesome. If you can't find the binary file (.deb?) I can upload it for you.
[03:23] <quint> berkiyo: It shouldn't really break if I pull it from the new repos, correct?
[03:23] <quint> Or is that a gamble
[03:23] <berkiyo> I don't think so, what version is the one from the repos?
[03:26] <krytarik> quint: What Xubuntu version are you on?
[03:27] <quint> I'm 16.04
[03:27] <quint> But pulling from a later version, would that be discouraged in this case?
[03:27] <quint> (considering pulling from a later version that is)
[03:30] <berkiyo> I'm using XFWM 4.13 with XFCE 4.12 on Xubuntu 17.10
[03:30] <berkiyo> Haven't had any issues.
[03:30] <berkiyo> But do tell me, what GPU do you have?
[03:32] <quint> Intel igpu
[03:52] <quint> berkiyo: let me grab that package then if you've got it
[03:52] <quint> I can't seem to navigate to it lol
[03:52] <berkiyo> quint: Alright, be sure that you don't have any intel 20-intel.conf files.
[03:52] <berkiyo> give me a sec
[03:54] <berkiyo> I'd also advise you turn off "Synchronise drawing to the vertical blank" to stop slow-downs when dragging windows.
[03:55] <berkiyo> https://mega.nz/#!2pZjxSgI!7O4f7pCXgZNEVIXu9c5Rhchoz5RqOPP2JOWnwRt_UfU
[03:55] <quint> berkiyo: find /etc/X11/ | grep -i intel returns nothing if that's what you're asking
[03:55] <berkiyo> Just install that and reboot. You can check if it is installed with xfwm4 --version
[03:56] <berkiyo> quint: Yeah, I used to have the tear-free setting in 20-intel.conf but it would break lightdm.
[03:56] <berkiyo> This is the best solution as tearing doesn't come back after suspend too!
[03:57] <berkiyo> Do report back on how it goes :)
[03:57] <berkiyo> Also don't use compton as compton puts weird shadows on some programs
[03:58] <berkiyo> Unless you want effects then by all means
[03:58] <quint> berkiyo: that's because of GTK
[03:58] <quint> managed to kill that off
[03:59] <quint> but yeah sums check out on that package
[03:59] <quint> thanks!
[03:59] <berkiyo> No worries!
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[04:01] <quint> ah it's not gonna go in smooth berkiyo. dependency issues. I'll just have to upgrade when LTS hits.
[04:01] <quint> Thanks a bunch though for the file
[04:01] <berkiyo> Wait
[04:01] <berkiyo> Oh
[04:01] <berkiyo> I understand
[04:01] <berkiyo> No worries man. So 16.04 has issues with it then?
[04:02] <quint> Yeah it doesn't like it
[04:03] <berkiyo> Hmm. Well if you plan on running 17.10 or 18.04 (I'm waiting for 18.04 myself too), then it should work just fine. I hope XFCE 4.14 gets released by then.
[04:03] <berkiyo> It is good to see they are almost there though!
[04:03] <quint> Yeah
[04:04] <quint> Compton will do me fine for now though, very minor issue
[04:05] <berkiyo> If you say so. :)
[04:05] <berkiyo> Well I wish it would work on your computer but yeah.. Dependency issues are the worst so I wouldn't force it :P
[04:06] <quint> As soon as there's one, I don't even bother going down that rabbit hole
[04:07] <quint> Anyway, I'm off. have a good one
[04:07] <berkiyo> No probs, you too!
[04:12] <Unit193> It very likely won't be released in time for the LTS, your best bet is one of the testing PPAs to get the development builds at least.
[04:13] <berkiyo> Unit193: Is there any ETA that it would be released in 2018 or no?
[04:13] <Unit193> Not really able to tell yet.
[04:14] <berkiyo> Are you a XFCE developer? :O
[04:15] <berkiyo> If so, I want to thank you and your team on what a wonderful desktop environment you guys have created.
[04:15] <Unit193> No, well not really.  Xubuntu.
[04:15] <berkiyo> Ah
[04:16] <berkiyo> Even that, the Xubuntu defaults are just... Perfect. Everything works so seamlessly.
[04:16] <Unit193> (As such I push minor, but usually very very minor changes to Xfce.)  Well good to hear!
[04:16] <berkiyo> And it isn't bloated either which is even better.
[04:16] <berkiyo> Nice
[10:18] <Afdal> Having an xfce bug in 16.04 that I'm not quite sure how to deal with
[10:18] <Afdal> I recently uninstalled Firefox and replaced it with another browser
[10:19] <Afdal> But for the life of me I cannot actually select another browser in Preferred Applications
[10:19] <Afdal> actually it's a problem with all aspects of Preferred Applications
[10:19] <Afdal> say you want to replace your terminal emulator with something else
[10:20] <Afdal> so you click the dropdown menu
[10:20] <Afdal> drag your mouse to lxterminal or something
[10:20] <Afdal> click it, and it does nothing
[10:20] <Afdal> the dropdown menus on Preferred Applications appear busted, can anyone direct me to the text file where this setting is stored?
[11:00] <Afdal> Solved it, Preferred Applications apparently needs to be run with sudo to actually change anything now
[11:00] <Afdal> This definitely seems like a bug, it makes the menu item useless for running it
[11:08] <bastadur> Anyone using Firefox Nightly?
[11:10] <Afdal> I'm going through a several-hours-long session to downgrade my Firefox actually
[11:10] <Afdal> or move on to Pale Moon already
[11:10] <wkwing> I am using firefox 57
[11:10] <Afdal> ouch
[11:11] <bastadur> I'm asking because I can't seem to get the version 59 through updates.
[11:11] <bastadur> Used to get updates daily then it just stopped.
[11:21] <wkwing> on ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa firefox 59 build 21 hours ago
[13:05] <kgbme> guys, this is getting ridiculous - i can't identd my localhost (on freenode, for example)
[13:11] <kgbme> if anyone's running it from their local PC, please let me know..:)
[13:12] <kgbme> oident currently active (and replacing ident daemon successfully - or not?) heh.
[13:13] <kgbme> 16.04.3 xubu
[13:14] <kgbme> i can telnet to it, on 113 so it seems to be cool ^^
[14:23] <quint> balkamos: was it you I was speaking to earlier about the compositor?
[14:42] <quint> Anyone able to shed some light on why xfwm4 4.13.0 on an intel igpu may cause dragging windows to "lag" behind slightly? (not tearing, lagging behind)
[14:42] <kgbme> yup, there's lag.
[14:43] <quint> someone definitely mentioned a fix for it earlier
[14:43] <quint> Anyone got logs?
[14:43] <kgbme> quint: what cpu, it might be just easier to change driver (to proprietary or vice-versa)
[14:48] <quint> It's intel. I wasn't even aware there were proprietary drivers for intel.
[14:48] <kgbme> um
[14:48] <kgbme> sec.
[14:49] <quint> Someone mentioned a fix specifically for the package they suggested for just this issue. If only I had logged it
[14:49] <kgbme> https://s33.postimg.org/kc8hp6tcv/Screenshot_2017-11-23_15-49-13.png ?
[14:50] <kgbme> yea sry wasnt here i think (plus, no logging. :))
[14:50] <quint> Dang.
[14:50] <quint> Yeah I do have that installed at the moment by the way
[14:50] <quint> I'll try without and see if that helps out
[14:50] <kgbme> it *might* work, maybe worth a try?
[14:51] <quint> I'll return
[14:51] <kgbme> yup
[14:54] <PlainDave> A little while ago, a guy gave me a link to a page that showed 18.04beta release, as well as the official release of LTS. Would anyone know that page URL?
[14:54] <quint> No such luck.
[14:55] <quint> Ahh jeeze I really should keep logs
[14:55] <kgbme> PlainDave: like a mirror, this doesn't do it for you? https://xubuntu.org/download
[14:55] <kgbme> quint: :f
[14:56] <PlainDave> No, but thanks. This page was all about 18.04's schedule.
[14:56] <PlainDave> I've searched, but can't find anything.
[14:56] <kgbme> and don't forget to check the hash, if it's not the official server (even when it is. :))
[14:57] <PlainDave> definitely
[14:57] <kgbme> hehe cool
[14:57] <quint> Someone suggested upgrading a specific package and mentioned a fix for that very issue. It didn't take at first, but I apparently only needed one dep for it, which was available. Just now got it installed :(
[14:57] <quint> My issue that is ^
[14:59] <kgbme> ah, geez. by the way, sometimes if Synaptic won't do the dependencies or whatever - Aptitude will, for future reference. =)
[14:59] <quint> installed directly with dpkg and forgot apt would try to resolve
[15:00] <kgbme> cool, cool :/
[15:01] <quint> Anyways. I'll just pop on some other time and hopefully someone will have the log lol. Couldn't find anyone with this specific trouble
[15:01] <quint> cheers.
[15:03] <kgbme> PlainDave: it wasn't somewhere from https://fridge.ubuntu.com/ ?
[17:56] <flocculant> PlainDave: release schedule maybe? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[18:21] <ylwghst-nix> Hi
[18:26] <ylwghst-nix> Is Graybird default lightdm gtk greeter theme?
[18:33] <GridCube> greybird, yes
[19:46] <xubuntu01d> Hello
[19:46] <xubuntu01d> Some1 who can help me ?
[19:48] <knome> ask the question and find out
[19:51] <xubuntu01d> i just have problem with playonlinux software, i have done everything i have readed on their forum, but when i try to run the Worl Of Tanks, it launch, but after few second it gets error with POL
[19:51] <xubuntu01d> POL_DOWNLOAD or something