[14:20] <akshay__> Hi what are the consequences of directly doing juju remove-application <app-name>, instead of removing all the relations first and then removing application?
[14:31] <evilnickveitch> akshay__, which version of Juju are you using?
[14:34] <akshay__> evilnickveitch: it is 1.6
[14:36] <evilnickveitch> akshay__, for 2.0+, there is no effective difference, the other side of the relation fires a relation-departed hook
[14:36] <evilnickveitch> but for earlier versions I don't think that happens, so the related application will switch to an error state
[14:37] <evilnickveitch> so, much better to remove the relations first, because you are going to have to clean up afterwards
[14:38] <evilnickveitch> ^otherwise
[18:50] <freyes> hi, is there a command to list permissions granted to a user?
[18:56] <jose-phillips> hi
[18:56] <jose-phillips> someone know how to upgrade openstack from newton to ocata?
[18:56] <jose-phillips> on a conjure-up juju installation?