[00:01] <donofrio> I rebooted and again it's waiting five min for network interface?
[00:14] <ReptilianBrain> Hi I have a weird issue with my ubuntu 17.10 installation. I clicked Reset All in the Keyboard shortcut settings and now my keyboard multimedia key are not working
[00:16] <ReptilianBrain> When I hit the play/pause button I see an icon appear on screen, it's a circle with a line in it, like it doesn't recognize the key anymore
[00:16] <ReptilianBrain> Any info on how I can restore the normal behavior ?
[00:27] <donofrio> got to be a way i can stop this 5 min wait on boot
[00:35] <slee> hi, i apparently have a crappy wifi card in a laptop, i've tried several distros, all act the same...after so many minutes of inactivity, laptop loses connection...so i'm wanting to write a simple bash to ping router(192.168.1.1) every 30 secs in the background...so, can 'ping' only do a single ping or does the ping command continue to ping until it's stopped?
[00:38] <kk4ewt> ping usually does 4 times  man ping
[00:40] <slee> aah, found the paramter, ping -c 1 = 1 ping
[00:41] <slee> so putting this in a loop with a sleep 30 should do the trick
[00:48] <Ben64> slee: ping -i30 192.168.1.1
[00:49] <slee> -i30?
[00:49] <slee> that will ping every 30 seconds?
[00:49] <AurorasAura> any one know of an alternative to NFS? I have been trying for hours and reading countless tutorials but always get the same "permission denied" error message
[00:49] <slee> i'll give it a shot, thanks
[00:50] <slee> file sharing? samba?
[00:50] <AurorasAura> I have 2 ubuntu servers no GUI slee
[00:50] <Ben64> sshfs
[00:51] <AurorasAura> Ill give that a shot Ben64
[00:51] <AurorasAura> thanks
[00:52] <AurorasAura> Oh before I go any further lol does sshfs have to be installed on both machines? Like a client/server setup?
[00:53] <slee> cool, the -i30 will work great, thanks again, Ben64
[00:55] <paul_1515> anyone know if gprof 2.28 in 17.04 has a problem where it doesn't work at all? I can't get it to output any call graph data
[00:59] <Ben64> AurorasAura: just needs an ssh server and client
[01:01] <AurorasAura> Well it worked with a lot less hassle Ben64 but it only mounts my home directory
[01:01] <Ben64> you can choose the directory
[01:02] <AurorasAura> Lol....forget I said anything lol hence the home directory "sudo sshfs -o allow_other,defer_permissions root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/ /mnt/droplet
[01:03] <AurorasAura> Sorry I have spent hours messing around with this and was about to go psycho! Thank you so much Ben64 this took like 10 min compared to nfs
[01:03] <Ben64> no problem
[01:04] <Ben64> ssh is great, not the best speed, but it works as long as you already have ssh and an account already
[01:04] <Ben64> but it is encrypted and secure
[01:06] <AurorasAura> Last silly question adding the mountpoint to fstab.... sshfs#root@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/ /mnt/droplet" How do you add a password
[01:09] <slee> AurorasAura, i haven't messed with fstab/ssh, but i do have a samba drive in fstab with a password
[01:10] <slee> /192.168.1.1/usbtest/mediacenter /home/slee2/mediacenter cifs credentials=/home/slee2/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
[01:10] <slee> pointing to a file with the password: credentials=/home/slee2/.smbcredentials
[01:12] <AurorasAura> Ah... thats useful slee Thank you :)
[01:16] <Ben64> AurorasAura: i'd just use a ssh key
[01:19] <AurorasAura> I would but am a newbie Ben64  dont really know how
[01:22] <Ben64> easy mode -- ssh-copy-id <server>
[01:26] <GhostwalkGames> Can a Ryzen 1300x with 8GB ram handle Kubuntu or should I use Xubuntu?
[01:26] <GhostwalkGames> I prefer KDE but I know it is harder to run
[01:28] <Ben64> uh a ryzen 1300x can handle any DE
[01:28] <GhostwalkGames> Ah okay, nice
[01:59] <AirstrikeIvanov> has anyone else had cpu spikes leading to freezes, on ubuntu server 17.10? not sure why other OSes dont freeze but ubuntu does all of a sudden. worked fine the first few weeks and it happens on every fresh install I try
[02:31] <yogix> I disable dim screen in power options, but when on battery it still dims after about 15 seconds.  How do I really disable this option?
[02:36] <yogix> i'm using 17.10
[02:57] <yogix> found this and adjusted idle time out to 300000 and that fixed it: org -> gnome -> settings-daemon -> plugins -> power
[04:21] <JoshuaD> I updated to 17.10. Somewhere in the process of changing my dm and updating, ~/.local/bin got removed from my path. I tried adding it in to /etc/environment, but I'm guessing it doesn't resolve the ~. Any idea how it got removed, and how to add it back in?
[04:24] <Ben64> normally it's ~/bin/ that's in path
[04:25] <Ben64> and you shouldn't be messing with /etc/environment
[04:26] <JoshuaD> This SE question seems to suggest it should be in path in ubuntu: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/316765/which-distributions-have-home-local-bin-in-path.
[04:27] <Ben64> well that page tells you where it's defined
[04:28] <Toadisattva> can't you just like reinstall ubuntu-desktop and correct any of the missing core files?
[04:28] <cfhowlett> Toadisattva, desktop is not core.
[04:28] <Toadisattva> ah in that case remove desktop from there
[04:28] <Toadisattva> apt-get ubuntu do it?
[04:28] <Ben64> it wouldn't fix something in the home directory that was modified though
[04:28] <Toadisattva> oh I see
[04:28] <cfhowlett> true ^^^
[04:28] <JoshuaD> Not sure if this is helpful: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/+bug/1588562
[04:29] <JoshuaD> should i try apt-get ubuntu?
[04:30] <cfhowlett> invalid operation
[04:30] <Toadisattva> I skip listing sudo but if not root obviously that needs to be there
[04:30] <Toadisattva> not sure that's the best way to correct it though
[04:31]  * Toadisattva pretty linux noob
[04:31] <JoshuaD> feels like a strange fix, hesitant to do it unless you're sure
[04:32] <Toadisattva> it's basically a reinstall the core OS move
[04:33] <Toadisattva> there are surely better/simpler route
[04:33] <Toadisattva> but I don't know them
[04:33] <Toadisattva> hehe
[04:33] <cfhowlett> doing so from a live system sounds highly questionable.  I would think perhaps booting a live USB, chroot to the system then reinstall would be safer.  Ben64 what say ye?
[04:34] <azubieta> Hello, I making a customice ubuntu release and can make the resolvconf work when it is installed. Any clue ?
[04:35] <JoshuaD> anyone on 17.X who can confirm whether ~/.local/bin is in their path? I'm thinking this isn't unique to my system based on that bug report.
[04:49] <Ben64> JoshuaD: just edit ~/.profile ...
[04:53] <JoshuaD> @Ben: Oh yea? Will that work system wide? I thought that only affected consoles
[04:54] <JoshuaD> @Ben: it's already there "PATH="$HOME/bin:$HOME/.local/bin:$PATH"
[04:54] <Ben64> maybe
[04:54] <JoshuaD> home appears to be properly set: echo $HOME -- /home/joshua
[04:55] <Ben64> what are you running not in a terminal
[04:55] <JoshuaD> little scripts like "move-monitor-to-other-screen.sh" and "lock-screen.sh" with keyboard hotkeys. I have already changed them to point to the full path, but I dunno, I liked having a bin directory I could mess around in. It has come up a few times
[04:56] <JoshuaD> Seeing it change made me feel like I broke something
[04:56] <JoshuaD> *move-window-to-other-monitor.sh lol
[04:56] <Ben64> scripts would use .profile
[04:56] <JoshuaD> once they're launched, but not when i'm launching them
[04:56] <Ben64> yes they would
[04:57] <JoshuaD> keyboard entry used to be "lock-screen.sh" and it worked. If I try that now I get an error saying it can't find it. Now it's "/home/joshua/.local/bin/lock-screen.sh"
[04:57] <JoshuaD> "Failed to launch shortcut -- failed to execute child process "lock.sh" (no such file or directory)"
[04:58] <JoshuaD> ugh, sorry I have to run. Mini emergency at the house. Thanks for chatting
[04:58] <bonelifer> JoshuaD: why not use /usr/local/sbin, on my no 17.x install it's there and empty
[05:03] <Ben64> should use home dir
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> daitianshou: best not join irc as root
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> daitianshou: logout and come back as a user
[06:00] <bmatt> If anyone is available and willing to help, can you please point me in the right direction? I'm trying to install Wine, but I'm having hella problems.
[06:00] <bmatt> http://codepad.org/CDM68CnW
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: did you add external ppa's in the past?
[06:01] <bmatt> i've tried, but kept receiving a 404 error during apt-get update. i haven't had this problem this time
[06:02] <bmatt> i tried adding a ppa suggested by a website that i read...and then my OS said it was deprecated and gave me some commands to run
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[06:02] <bmatt> Linux bmat 4.13.0-16-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 11 18:35:14 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[06:02] <bmatt> eh..is that helpful?
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: lsb_release -a
[06:03] <bmatt> No LSB modules are available.
[06:03] <bmatt> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[06:03] <bmatt> Description:	Ubuntu 17.10
[06:03] <bmatt> Release:	17.10
[06:03] <bmatt> Codename:	artful
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: ok check your sources list, and see if it shows an external ppa link?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | bmatt
[06:05] <bmatt> lotuspsychje: yea but, i need ppa to install wine?
[06:06] <bmatt> according to 138234 articles online
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: no, but lets c first if you have ppa's added, if thats why you got unmet dependecys
[06:06] <bmatt> hold on
[06:07] <bmatt> http://termbin.com/ir3b
[06:07] <bmatt> lotuspsychje: that's my sources.list
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: did you add a wine ppa or so?
[06:08] <bmatt> lotuspsychje: i issued this command: sudo apt-add-repository 'https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/'
[06:09] <bmatt> after being advised to do so by my OS.
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: wine is in main repos from ubuntu, so you didnt need to add wine ppa
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !info wine
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[06:09] <bmatt> lotuspsychje: there are sixteen trillion wine packages.
[06:09] <Ben64> !info wine-stable
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> ah tnx Ben64
[06:09] <Ben64> np
[06:10] <bmatt> i've just been goggling "install wine ubuntu"
[06:10] <bmatt> i've tried it with the regular repos...no luck
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: so sudo apt install wine-stable would have done the trick officially
[06:10] <bmatt> nah man
[06:10] <bmatt> same issue. unmet dependenaniciseifsie
[06:10] <bmatt> i've been at this for hours, lol.
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: try removeing that ppa first
[06:10] <bmatt> i did.
[06:11] <bmatt> but i'll try again.
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> and sudo apt update
[06:11] <Ben64> it's because you have 3rd party stuff going on
[06:11] <bmatt> nah man
[06:11] <bmatt> i don't.
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: a clean ubuntu without ppa's usaually dont give unmet dependecys
[06:12] <bmatt> lotuspsychje: funny..because i tried installing wine from the repos before ever adding a PPA as soon as i freshly installed Ubuntu
[06:12] <bmatt> and got the same error.
[06:12] <bmatt> the only thing i had installed was irssi and qtorrent
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: with wich command?
[06:12] <bmatt> sudo apt-get install wine-stable-amd64
[06:12] <bmatt> or something similar
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: you can check history in terminal
[06:12] <bmatt> it was sixty years ago
[06:13] <Ben64> ubuntu didn't exist 60 years ago
[06:13] <bmatt> it's called a hyperbole, but anyway..
[06:13] <bmatt> so there are no ppas. updated & upgraded..0, 0, 0, 0
[06:13] <bmatt> still cannot install wine. same error
[06:13] <Ben64> its called making things up, theres no way to help you if you're going to be doing crap like that
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: remove the ppa from wine, sudo apt update and try again
[06:13] <bmatt> i just did
[06:14] <bmatt> Ben64: it's called rhetoric.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: sudo apt install wine-stable
[06:14] <bmatt> lotuspsychje: same error.
[06:14] <bmatt> lotuspsychje: let me verify -- does removing the extra lines from sources.list remove the ppa?
[06:14] <bmatt> after updating.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> no
[06:14] <bmatt> oh.
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> ppapurge
[06:14] <bmatt> alright let me try that previous suggestion
[06:14] <bmatt> yea..i'll do that.
[06:15] <bmatt> lotuspsychje: are there any specific flags or arguments i need to use while issuing that command?
[06:16] <bmatt> !ppa-purge
[06:16] <bmatt> ...oh. i'm not really sure which repository name it is :x
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: check the wine site you added it from
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> most sites will give you proper format
[06:17] <bmatt> sudo apt-add-repository 'https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/'
[06:17] <bmatt> that was the command...so?
[06:18] <bmatt> wine-builds?
[06:18] <bmatt> sigh. this is idiotic.
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: no read the line, it has to be ppa:repo-name...
[06:19] <bmatt> wtf is the repo name?
[06:19] <bmatt> wine-builds
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: your the owner of your system, we advice not to add external ppa's
[06:19] <bmatt> dude
[06:19] <bmatt> fuckin ubuntu SUGGESTED it
[06:19] <bmatt> what are you even talking about
[06:19] <Ben64> no it didn't
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: stay cool plz
[06:19] <Ben64> ubuntu doesn't go hey add this random repository
[06:19] <bmatt> yea but it's not making any sense and i'm frustrated
[06:19] <bmatt> hold on, i'll show you
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: ubuntu is your system, not the internet..
[06:20] <bmatt> lotuspsychje: http://codepad.org/OG5JTOHd
[06:20] <bmatt> there you go.
[06:21] <bmatt> i issued a command from a tutorial i found online. i was advised not to do that once i issued it...so i didn't.
[06:21] <bmatt> and i issued the commands that were recommended.
[06:21] <Ben64> thats a 3rd party repository telling you to use another 3rd party repository ...
[06:21] <bmatt> oh
[06:21] <bmatt> well crap
[06:22] <bmatt> well in any case, i issued those three commands
[06:22] <bmatt> and ..here i am.
[06:22] <Ben64> are you even on ubuntu
[06:22] <bmatt> lubuntu
[06:22] <bmatt> i'm a slackware guy. this all new to me, and it's for my little brother.
[06:23] <bmatt> i don't understand these things :x
[06:23] <Ben64> sudo ppa-purge https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/
[06:23] <arifuzzaman> Hi! I use Ubuntu 16.04 along with Windows 10. Last night I went to sleep without shutting down my laptop and the charger was unplugged. In the morning when I tried to turn it on, Ubuntu went to emergency mode showing the following msg: '[42.035400][powerplay] VBIOS did not find boot engine clock value <some symbols>in  dependency table. Using memory DMP 0!' Now I am using Ubuntu from recovery mode > update GRUB > Resume. Any way to fix it w
[06:23] <Ben64> maybe
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> bmatt: did you read this part: !!! PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS REPOSITORY IS DEPRECATED !!!
[06:23] <bmatt> Ben64: i tried that :(
[06:23] <bmatt> lotuspsychje: nah, i missed that part somehow =/
[06:23] <Ben64> although if you haven't installed anything from it you could remove it from sources.list
[06:23] <bmatt> Ben64: i did that.
[06:23] <Ben64> pastebin 'sudo apt update'
[06:23] <bmatt> Ben64: still same issue when trying to sudo apt-get install wine* (anything)
[06:23] <bmatt> k hold
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> !recovergrub | arifuzzaman
[06:25] <bmatt> Ben64: http://codepad.org/uyTCn6if
[06:26] <Ben64> you still have it in there
[06:26] <bmatt> what!
[06:26] <bmatt> in sources.list?
[06:26] <Ben64> line #8
[06:26] <bmatt> hmm
[06:27] <Ben64> you're also missing a few repositories
[06:27] <bmatt> Ben64: crap. i missed something
[06:27] <bmatt> what should my sources.list look like?
[06:27] <bmatt> i try using the GUI thing...but it doesn't make sense to me
[06:27] <bmatt> the software updater thing
[06:28] <Ben64> what gui thing, what did you change
[06:28] <bmatt> i didn't change anything
[06:28] <bmatt> hold
[06:28] <Ben64> well, you did, because that's not standard
[06:28] <bmatt> negative
[06:28] <bmatt> it seriously shouldn't be this hard to install wine
[06:29] <Ben64> it isn't
[06:29] <bmatt> yes sir
[06:29] <bmatt> it is
[06:29] <Ben64> i just installed 17.10 in a vm, installed wine while we've been talking
[06:29] <Ben64> zero problems
[06:29] <bmatt> sigh
[06:29] <bmatt> anyway
[06:30] <bmatt> so pastebin me your sources.list.
[06:30] <Ben64> either you did something to change the repos, or you aren't running ubuntu, or you're using a exploited version of ubuntu
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> !sources | bmatt
[06:34] <bmatt> Ben64: are you high on crack cocaine again?
[06:34] <Ben64> that's helpful
[06:34] <bmatt> this ain't my first rodeo, brother.
[06:34] <bmatt> anyway screw it
[06:34] <bmatt> i'm too drunk anyway.
[06:34] <bmatt> however, Ben64 and lotuspsychje, I genuinely do appreciate your attention and your support. have a good evening, lads.
[06:35] <bmatt> im gonna eat some hotwings and shit my pants
[06:39] <JoshuaD> @bonelifer: re: previous conversation. I don't know. I was more worried I broke something. In 16.10 /.local/bin was in path. After messing around a bunch and upgrading to 17.10, it wasn't in path anymore. I could change into some other directory easily, but why did it change, and was it supposed to?
[06:39] <JoshuaD> (and if not, can I fix it?)
[06:39] <jerichowasahoax> JoshuaD: you can add /usr/local/bin back to path if that's your kind of thing
[06:40] <JoshuaD> @jerichowasahoax - Sure, how? I don't just want to do it for shell sessions. I'd also like for it to be there for things like application finder
[06:41] <JoshuaD> That'd be great. :)
[06:41] <jerichowasahoax> JoshuaD: i'm booting up my 17.10 instance right now to poke into that for you
[06:41] <JoshuaD> <3 <3
[06:42] <Ben64> could always cheat maybe... ln -s ~/.local/bin ~/bin
[06:42] <jerichowasahoax> Ben64: nah, lets do this right
[06:43] <JoshuaD> not so attached to cheat. If ubuntu has gotten rid of the ~/.local/bin directory then I'll just move to ~/bin
[06:43] <Ben64> i don't think ubuntu has ever used ~/.local/bin
[06:43] <JoshuaD> Basically trying to figure out if it's a bug that I should work around until it's fixed, or if it's a design decision that I should embrace
[06:43] <Ben64> it's not on any of my systems
[06:43] <jerichowasahoax> JoshuaD: ~/.local/bin isn't actually part of any standard I'm aware of
[06:44] <JoshuaD> https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/file-hierarchy.html
[06:44] <JoshuaD> Systemd apparently specifies it
[06:44] <JoshuaD> and it was included on my 16.10 automatically. I think. Not 100% sure. I may have edited it in a year ago, but I don't think so. Especially because I don't remember how to do that now
[06:45] <jerichowasahoax> JoshuaD: it may be sufficient to include it in ~/.profile
[06:45] <Ben64> well it's not in 16.04 or 17.10
[06:45] <jerichowasahoax> export PATH="~/.local/bin:$PATH"
[06:45] <jerichowasahoax> if your shell supports it, some sort of script that warns you the file exists in ~/.local/bin would be advized
[06:46] <JoshuaD> @jerichowasahoax: that will work for shells, but not for things like applauncher. Really, it's sounding like maybe the thing I want isn't standard, and I have no attachment
[06:46] <JoshuaD> I can confirm it's not on 16.04 or 17.10 on either of my machines, so maybe I did something and forgot. If so, i'll just use ~/bin
[06:46] <jerichowasahoax> JoshuaD: did you log out and log back in before trying it?
[06:47] <jerichowasahoax> JoshuaD: because if not, then your application launcher would have been using the old profile, so of course it wouldn't work ;-)
[06:48] <JoshuaD> I'll give it a shot. What file?
[06:49] <jerichowasahoax> JoshuaD: ~/.profile
[06:50] <JoshuaD> its there already, pretty sure by default.
[06:50] <jerichowasahoax> and have you logged out and logged back in since putting it there
[06:50] <JoshuaD> i didn't put it there.
[06:50] <jerichowasahoax> that is the important part
[06:50] <JoshuaD> yea, i hear you. I'll do it again just to be 1000% sure, but I didn't edit this in
[06:50] <JoshuaD> brb
[06:51] <Zensei> Hey guys!
[06:52] <jerichowasahoax> JoshuaD: well it's definitely not default, so if you definitely didn't edit it in, I wonder who else may have access to your files...
[06:53] <Zensei> I have a question about advanced startup
[06:54] <Zensei> I notice when I boot it shows the grub menu
[06:54] <JoshuaD> @jerichowasahoax: I may have edited in in the past, couldn't say for sure. Maybe that's how this started a year ago.
[06:54] <JoshuaD> @jerichowasahoax, logout/login no change
[06:54] <Zensei> and it has two options in advanced startup (regular ubuntu wont boot, just purple screen)
[06:54] <Zensei> and there is ubuntu generic .40 and .28
[06:54] <Zensei> .40 wont boot
[06:54] <Zensei> but .28 will?
[06:54] <JoshuaD> think i'll just use ~/bin. Guessing I must've forced this a while back. No reason to force it
[06:55] <jerichowasahoax> JoshuaD: well i guess your graphical login environment isn't sourcing ~/.profile :V
[06:56] <JoshuaD> is it supposed to be?
[06:56] <jerichowasahoax> JoshuaD: I'm not sure exactly where all the environment settings are in 17.10, I'm mainly an Ubuntu server user (and putting it in .zshrc works for me :V)
[06:56] <JoshuaD> Let me try that. I'm also using zsh.
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Zensei: tell us the whole story plz?
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Zensei: ubuntu version? what happened?
[06:58] <xvtz> I have xubuntu on my asus laptop. The wifi is autodisconnecting frequently. How do I solve this?
[06:59] <tatertots> xvtz: are you chatting from the computer right now hardwired to the network?
[06:59] <Zensei> lotuspsychje: ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> Zensei: up to date to .3?
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> xvtz: chipset and driver and xubuntu version?
[07:00] <xvtz> tatertots, No, right now the wifi is working, but about every five minutes or so, the wifi disconnects and then reconnects again.
[07:00] <jerichowasahoax> JoshuaD: it may be possible to add "$HOME/.local/bin" to the global path in /etc/environment, though I'm not sure if $HOME is defined by the time that file is read
[07:00] <Zensei> I just booted from flash, did some updates, soft reboot, purple screen
[07:00] <Zensei> did hard reboot
[07:00] <Zensei> then grub
[07:00] <Zensei> and then aforementioned shit
[07:00] <Zensei> whoops
[07:00] <Zensei> poop
[07:00] <jerichowasahoax> oh he disconnected
[07:00] <jerichowasahoax> !note
[07:00] <tatertots> xvtz: probably realtek..open terminal
[07:00] <Zensei> not up to date afaik
[07:00] <tatertots> xvtz: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[07:00] <jerichowasahoax> i tried
[07:00] <tatertots> xvtz: let me know when its done
[07:00] <xvtz> lotuspsychje, chipset 03:00.0 Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> xvtz: xubuntu version?
[07:01] <xvtz> xubutnu 16.04 LTS 32-bit
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> xvtz: lsb_release -a
[07:03] <xvtz> I was disconnected just now.
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> Zensei: try update system via recoverymode?
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> !atheros | xvtz
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> xvtz: check if system is up to date lsb_release -a
[07:06] <xvtz> lotuspsychje, No LSB modules are available
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> xvtz: did you -a
[07:07] <xvtz> yep
[07:09] <xvtz> lotuspsychje, I did -a
[07:09] <xvtz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26039604/ is my lspci result
[07:10] <nucubun> I was upgrading Ubuntu and the updater frozen. I had to restart, now I cannot boot, I get a black screen with a pointer arrow. I canot SSH. :(
[07:10] <nucubun> What can i do?
[07:37] <Zensei> hmm
[07:37] <Zensei> computer fixed itself XD
[07:49] <nucubun> is it possible to upgrade packages via the “try ubuntu” gui from the loader?
[07:50] <nucubun> had a update failure with all sorts of issues cant get networking etc in safe mode
[07:55] <Zensei> are you trying to access a network via a usb boot of ubuntu?
[07:59] <nucubun> I have terminal access again! :)
[08:08] <nucubun> aynone around?
[08:08] <JoshuaD> I am
[08:09] <Zensei> just doing the casual NEVER USED LINUX BEFORE shine of a new os
[08:10] <JoshuaD> hmm?
[08:10] <Zensei> heh
[08:10] <Zensei> windows user
[08:10] <Zensei> just decided go on ubuntu
[08:10] <nucubun> Joshua, I had the updater crash when updating to a new version. I repaired with dpkg under safe mode and was able to boot after only getting a black screen with pointer. Will updating packages now be sufficent or should I try to upgrade the entire install?
[08:12] <JoshuaD> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I'm no expert on ubuntu. If it were me, i'd try working from where you are. Get to a tty, try figuring out where things are breaking, try fixing it there.
[08:12] <JoshuaD> did you try hitting ctrl + alt + f2 / f3 / f4?
[08:12] <JoshuaD> after getting to the blank pointer?
[08:12] <JoshuaD> *black screen w/ pointer
[08:12] <ducasse> nucubun: what were you doing when it crashed - just installing updates or upgrading to a new release?
[08:13] <nucubun> I fixed that, i have desktop / ssh now
[08:13] <nucubun> updating to a new release
[08:13] <nucubun> and i restarted, subseqnetly got locked out just a black screen and pointer, i went into safe mode and ran dpkg to fix any configuration issues, got ability to log back in, and now updated packages. Says I have the latest distribution to
[09:11] <Thete> anyone know how to improve synaptics trackpad in ubuntu?  looks like wayland using libinput
[09:11] <Thete> rather than synaptics
[09:13] <Thete> would think libinput would work better though
[09:16] <Neo2> Hi! I'm going to customize my ubuntu that I've installed recent as second OS
[09:18] <Neo2> I've created tasks what I must do at first, this my list http://dpaste.com/3D3MA7C
[09:18] <Neo2> How long it take to learn? And I need translator there as well. )
[09:19] <Neo2> is it possible learned everything those what I wrote?
[09:21] <ducasse> Neo2: is this a vps or a local machine?
[09:22] <Neo2> near with windows, I'll now reboot in there
[09:22] <Neo2> real local machine
[09:22] <Neo2> second OS
[09:22] <ducasse> and what do you mean by "customize digitalocean"?
[09:22] <Neo2> I didn't thing It take 20Gb and ubuntu able access all other dicks
[09:23] <Neo2> ducasse: I bought there VPS for 5$ and couldn't put Wp site for test speed on google
[09:24] <Neo2> ducasse: I want estimate response time,on my current server it's not 0.4 seconds, it must be no more 0.2
[09:24] <ducasse> Neo2: you should probably start by reading this:
[09:24] <ducasse> !software
[09:24] <Neo2> ducasse: I've watched a few video lessons about all of those what I need, I need more and learn SSH too, change password, how to use keys
[09:25] <cristian_c> hello
[09:25] <Neo2> ducasse: have you ever try put site on digitalocean? there host without ISPmanager, my current host has it
[09:26] <ducasse> i have several vps guests there, yes
[09:26] <Neo2> oh and what the control panels do  you use?
[09:27] <ducasse> ssh :)
[09:27] <Neo2> only?
[09:27] <ducasse> yes
[09:27] <cristian_c> I've got issue restoring /boot in ubuntu. When I try to boot 17.10, grub doesn't appear, I get: 'unknown filesystem' in grub rescue
[09:27] <Neo2> I watched in video lessons, we get ssh and then install free control panes and then only start customize the server
[09:28] <Neo2> ducasse: do all in ssh difficult and take much time, you can install LAMP and then panel
[09:28] <cristian_c> I've tried to restore/reinstall grub from a live system, but I didn't solve that issue, I get again to grub rescue and Iconfigfile command doesn't work in grub rescue
[09:28] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:28] <TJ-> cristian_c: is that on UEFI or BIOS ?
[09:29] <Neo2> I want at first train do all of this on local OS and then train on digitaloceans
[09:29] <cristian_c> TJ-: efi
[09:29] <TJ-> cristian_c: at the GRUB rescue> prompt does "ls" list all the storage devices you'd expect to see?
[09:29] <ducasse> Neo2: i suggest you do as i suggested some time back - get a good linux book and start reading. you really need to learn how to do things in a shell.
[09:30] <cristian_c> TJ-: I can list also /boot partition in grub rescue
[09:30] <alkisg> cristian_c: are you on the live cd now? pastebin the output of sudo parted -l; sudo ls -ld /sys/firmware/efi
[09:30] <cristian_c> it inckudes vmlinuz, inutrd and other files and directories
[09:31] <cristian_c> and grub directory too
[09:31] <Neo2> ducasse: I read one book about linux 3 years ago 1100 pages in russian language, it's old book published 2008 years, there is not ubuntu, but common knowladge I had got
[09:32] <alkisg> cristian_c: if you're on the grub rescue now, try this instead: configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg (you might need to omit /boot since it's a separate partition)
[09:32] <Neo2> ducasse: better than book read documentation, I've opened this book recent and watch list themes, Very old 2008 year publish and info there up to 2008 even older
[09:32] <cristian_c> alkisg: not currently, but I can. Btw, I've already looked at /sys/firmware/efi, and it's empty, also entering in chroot
[09:33] <alkisg> cristian_c: not empty => efi mode. not existing => bios mode. empty => wut?! :D
[09:33] <cristian_c> it's strange /sys/firmware/efi is empty , after using modprobe efivars too
[09:33] <cristian_c> alkisg: I'm using also windows 10, so I suppose it0s in efi mode
[09:34] <ducasse> Neo2: same thing - a book _is_ documentation. learn how to use manual pages and learn how the shell works first. a panel can only do some things.
[09:34] <alkisg> cristian_c: you can't fix grub from live usb stick if your usb stick boots in bios mode
[09:34] <cristian_c> it's gpt partitioned, but I can also using dmesg grep efi to be sure
[09:34] <alkisg> Even if windows boots in efi mode
[09:34] <alkisg> I haven't understood if you're in live mode, in grub rescue, or not in your pc
[09:34] <Neo2> ducasse: see this video, I'm watching it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBp0Rb-ZJak
[09:34] <alkisg> If you're in live mode, do send the output I asked for...
[09:34] <Neo2> ducasse: 7 hourse courses and guy is very good all explain
[09:35] <cristian_c> alkisg: when I boot live system I get always 'grub-like' menu mode, that appears in efi mode
[09:35] <ducasse> Neo2: no thanks, i'll be fine
[09:35] <alkisg> cristian_c: can you actually try things now, or are we just chatting?
[09:35] <TJ-> cristian_c: does the disk also contain BIOS boot-strap code in sector 0 though?
[09:35] <cristian_c> btw, when I type modprobe efivars, efivsrs is not listed in lsmod output, even if I don't get error messages when I type modprobe
[09:36]  * alkisg gives up until cristian_c is able to actually respond....
[09:36] <cristian_c> alkisg: ok, I've told some information, but I can type those commands
[09:37] <Neo2> on youtube many videos devoid ubuntu and they up do date, you can choose for last year loaded, I watch video lessons on youtube every day for learning some interesting themes and English
[09:37] <cristian_c> TJ-: I'm not sure about that, maybe it's he reason of grub rescue, maybe something in boot sector 0 is overwritten, I don't know, I try to type alkisg commands
[09:37] <TJ-> cristian_c: efivars is an alias for the module efi-pstore
[09:37] <cristian_c> ah, ok
[09:39] <ducasse> Neo2: at some point you're going to have to read docs, but learn how you like.
[09:39] <Neo2> ok
[09:41] <brym> Neo2: I'd definitely recommend continuing with DigitalOcean. Their knowledgebase is pretty solid.
[09:41] <Neo2> brym: yes, there should to do everything self
[09:42] <Neo2> there not exists normal support, everything should ask on forum how to do...
[09:43] <cristian_c> alkisg: I've got 17.04 live system, so I need to use networkmanager.conf  wifi rand mac address trick in order to connect to wireless network
[09:43] <cristian_c> cause 17.04 wifi bug
[09:43] <alkisg> cristian_c: ok, so now are you in the live cd or in grub rescue?
[09:44] <cristian_c> live system (usb)
[09:44] <brym> Neo2: or here. But whether you use this channel, the forums, or 3rd party websites, you'll find Ubuntu is very widely supported by it's generally helpful community.
[09:44] <cristian_c> but I need to eetuo network in order to use pastebin
[09:44] <cristian_c> *setup
[09:44] <alkisg> cristian_c: ok, set it up, and run: sudo parted -l; ls /sys/firmware/efi , and put the result to pastebin
[09:45] <cristian_c> (I've ssved the commands in a txt file, on windows partition, but I can access it from live system)
[09:45] <brym> Neo2: Tell me, are you still trying to setup a web server? I remember you were asking that the other night. But I didn't see you rejoin the channel after you left.
[09:45] <Neo2> brym: about it can ask in any linux channel, doesn't matter ubuntu or not, LAMP is everywhere
[09:46] <brym> Neo2: indeed. So, did you get help for that?
[09:46] <Neo2> brym: In ubuntu I must create new account, freenod redirect from #ubuntu to #unregistered-ubuntu
[09:47] <Neo2> yes
[09:47] <Neo2> have got many theoretical knowledge, will use all now on practice
[09:49] <brym> Neo2: if you haven't already, install something like Pidgin (sudo apt install pidgin), then register for an account in your IRC client.
[09:50] <Neo2> brym: ok, will try it,
[09:51] <brym> Neo2: the first thing you will see as an unregistered user will be instructions from Freenode on how to register for an account.
[09:52] <Neo2> Oh now, not Pidgin, I'll use Hexchat better
[09:52] <Neo2> ok, I know how to register account
[09:53] <brym> Neo2: Pidgin as an example. Use whatever you're comfortable with :)
[09:53] <Neo2> :)
[09:53] <cristian_c> alkisg: first paste: paste.ubuntu.com/26040267/   , second paste: paste.ubuntu.com/26040272
[09:56] <alkisg> cristian_c: what is this, a tablet?
[09:57] <cristian_c> alkisg: yay, yesterday I've found that strange message when I typed parted -l
[09:57] <alkisg> cristian_c: well, your partitioning is a mess, you have TWO "boot, esp" partitions
[09:57] <alkisg> I assume your /boot is in /dev/mmcblk1 partition19?
[09:59] <cristian_c> when I restored /boot partition from a backup, in windows by easus partition master, and then I booted to live system, it was not mounted, so I tried a check in gparted, ad then I noticed it had 'diag' flag, so, I removed thst flag and partition was properly mlunted in file manager
[09:59] <cristian_c> alkisg: two esp partitions is by design, just the second esp is the real esp where grub is instslled
[10:00] <cristian_c> he second esp is also used by windows boot manager
[10:00] <alkisg> mount your /boot, and then put your /boot/grub/grub.cfg to pastebin
[10:00] <cristian_c> ok
[10:00] <cristian_c> (it's automaticaly mounted, btw)
[10:01] <alkisg> The live usb automounts /boot? Strange
[10:01] <cristian_c> alkisg: live system automatically mounts ntfs and ext partitions
[10:02] <cristian_c> I've noticed that in last kernels
[10:02] <alkisg>  /boot isn't ext nor ntfs
[10:02] <cristian_c> boot is ext
[10:02] <alkisg> Ah, partition19, ext, ok
[10:02] <alkisg> Normally ext aren't automounted
[10:02] <cristian_c> ok
[10:03] <cristian_c> I thought it was a feature since kernel 4.10 and so on
[10:03] <alkisg> Automounting isn't done by the kernel at all
[10:03] <cristian_c> ok  now I paste grub.cfg in pastrbin
[10:03] <alkisg> the de, udisks, policykit etc are involved in automounting
[10:03] <alkisg> ok
[10:06] <cristian_c> alkisg: paste.ubuntu.com/26040333
[10:07] <klemax> Hello. 4.13.x kernel is EOL. Ubuntu 17.10 will continue to support it?
[10:07] <ducasse> klemax: yes
[10:08] <alkisg> cristian_c: and the output of `sudo lsblk --fs`, so that we see the uuids?
[10:08] <klemax> ducasse, actually i was using 4.13.16 which is not supported.
[10:08] <ducasse> klemax: then you're on your own :)
[10:09] <klemax> ducasse, so which version do you recommend me to continue?
[10:09] <cristian_c> alkisg: ok
[10:10] <ducasse> !info linux-image-generic artful
[10:10] <ducasse> klemax: ^^
[10:10] <klemax> ducasse, I had to use it because of a bug. 4.13.15 fixed it.
[10:11] <alkisg> cristian_c: it looks like someone manually edited grub.cfg, and forgot to update the uuid in those lines: search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root  649a4713-0693-489f-a3c5-fb6f84fd333e
[10:11] <klemax> So I can not use 4.13.0.17.18.
[10:12] <ducasse> klemax: have you reported this bug?
[10:12] <klemax> ducasse, i havent but somebody did.
[10:13] <cristian_c> alkisg: paste.ubuntu.com/26040353/
[10:14] <cristian_c> alkisg: if so, after that issue was already present
[10:14] <ducasse> klemax: then comment on that bug that you are also affected and point to the fix, then maybe the fix can be backported
[10:14] <klemax> ducasse, ok.
[10:15] <cristian_c> alkisg: the first I tried to boot 17.10 after /boot restore, the grub rescue error message was different: something about 'normal' module
[10:15] <klemax> ah wait, a guy already had reported that before i read it.
[10:15] <cristian_c> but after attempting to fix the boot, I always saw 'unknown filesystem'
[10:15] <alkisg> cristian_c: do you realize that you have 6 partitions with the same uuid, 57f8f4bc-abf4-655f-bf67-946fc0f9f25b?
[10:15] <cristian_c> alkisg: I think you're right
[10:16] <TJ-> cristian_c: alkisg AND 9 file-systems mounted on /media/lubuntu/ !?
[10:16] <ducasse> klemax: the more people who comment they're affected, the higher the likelihood of a fix
[10:16] <alkisg> TJ-: not all the path shows there
[10:17] <TJ-> alkisg: really? been cut-off?
[10:17] <cristian_c> alkisg: I think it's normal, those doesn't affect ubuntu and windows, esp handles just windows parition and /boot
[10:17] <alkisg> TJ-: yeah due to his terminal width
[10:17] <alkisg> He didn't use pipes, so COLUMNS is in effect...
[10:17] <TJ-> alkisg: oh - thought this was captured via pastebinit
[10:17] <alkisg> cristian_c: you need to revise your backup/restore strategy. So anyway your grub is *semi* correct, so try this: boot from the live usb. At grub, type "c" to get a shell.
[10:17] <alkisg> At the shell, type: set root=(hd0,gpt19)
[10:18] <cristian_c> alkisg: ok
[10:18] <alkisg> cristian_c: moment
[10:18] <alkisg> Did you manually edit grub.cfg?
[10:18] <cristian_c> alkisg: I've tried thst command in grub rescue, some hours ago, but I think you want I type thst in grub and not grub rescue
[10:18] <alkisg> grub rescue may be missing modules
[10:19] <alkisg> grub from live usb should have them
[10:19] <alkisg> Anyway, please answer the previous question
[10:19] <cristian_c> alkisg: mually not, just by update-grub2, update-grub and install --reinstall grub-efi
[10:19] <alkisg> Hmmm
[10:19] <alkisg> It's strange that it's using 2 uuids there
[10:19] <cristian_c> when yeasterday I tried to fix in chroot system
[10:19] <klemax> ducasse, I will look at 4.4.x to see if it fixes. if yes, I will go on it. it looks LTS.
[10:20] <alkisg> cristian_c: ok, anyway, go to grub from live usb
[10:20] <cristian_c> btw, I try to reboot 17.04 live and pressing c to enter grub shell
[10:20] <alkisg> set root=(hd0,gpt19); configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:20] <akik> JoshuaD: did you try installing 16.04 ?
[10:20] <alkisg> (or, omit /boot...)
[10:20] <klemax> ducasse, I can use it on 17.10, right? im going to get it from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline
[10:21] <EriC^^> gpt19 ? is that a typo?
[10:21] <alkisg> EriC^^: messed up tablet :)
[10:21] <EriC^^> ah :)
[10:23] <cristian_c> messed up grub
[10:23] <cristian_c> alkisg: I found ls lists hd1 in place of hd0, as gpt tsble
[10:23] <cristian_c> table
[10:23] <ducasse> klemax: you can, but it's still not supported on 17.10
[10:24] <klemax> humm.
[10:24] <klemax> so will be?
[10:25] <TJ-> klemax: also, be aware the mainline builds don't contain Ubuntu-specific apparmor patches to support unprivileged LXD containers
[10:25] <cristian_c> alkisg: I typed that
[10:26] <klemax> TJ-,  I dont use apparmor. Thanks for your information.
[10:26] <TJ-> klemax: it's also used by snaps
[10:26] <cristian_c> I've also not9ced thst yesterday I typed 'root=' in grub rescue in place of 'set root=', withput errors
[10:26] <klemax> TJ-, ah. so vlc snap would not work?
[10:26] <TJ-> klemax: not sure, but if you see errors you know why :)
[10:26] <cristian_c> alkisg: so, now, have I to type configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[10:26] <cristian_c> ?
[10:26] <klemax> I get it now why it is not working then.
[10:27] <klemax> TJ-, : thanks for your nice pointer.
[10:27] <TJ-> klemax: should be errors reported in dmesg/kern.log
[10:27] <klemax> ok let me check it.
[10:29] <alkisg> cristian_c: yes, use tab to autocomplete, because /boot may not be there, and you'd type configfile /grub/grub.cfg
[10:31] <cristian_c> autompletion seems not working well
[10:31] <cristian_c> so, I try ls first
[10:32] <cristian_c> alkisg: have I to use (hdX,gptY) in the command path?
[10:32] <alkisg> cristian_c: no, after you set root, you don't need to use that
[10:32] <cristian_c> ok
[10:32] <cristian_c> so, just ls requires it, I suppose
[10:33] <alkisg> cristian_c: no, ls / ==> should show the root contents without parentheses
[10:34] <cristian_c> ls says file /boot not found
[10:34] <cristian_c> but if I use parethesis, I get the /boot content
[10:35] <alkisg> cristian_c: ls /
[10:35] <alkisg> What does that say
[10:35] <cristian_c> ok
[10:35] <cristian_c> ok, ls / works too
[10:35] <cristian_c> same /boot content
[10:35] <alkisg> cristian_c: ls /grub
[10:36] <alkisg> Does that show things?
[10:36] <cristian_c> ok
[10:36] <cristian_c> it lists also gryb.cfg
[10:36] <cristian_c> so, I try configfile command
[10:36] <alkisg> configfile /grub/grub.cfg
[10:37] <cristian_c> ok, autompletion works too
[10:37] <alkisg> :)
[10:38] <cristian_c> alkisg: new screen and some interestigs error lines
[10:39] <alkisg> That should be your normal menu. Select Ubuntu, see if it works.
[10:44] <cristian_c> Booting 'ubuntu', error can't find command  ['.     error can't find command ['.    error file /boot/grub/grubenv not found      error can't find command ['.     error can't find command ['.     error can't find ['.       error file /boot/grub/386-efi/xzio.mod  not found.    error can't find command ['.
[10:44] <cristian_c> pres any key to continue......
[10:45] <cristian_c> *press
[10:46] <cristian_c> alkisg: in '[', the first quote sign is a reversed quote (bug I don't own on my keyboard)
[10:51] <cristian_c> alkisg: great, screen was freezed in that time , it's normal bevause in older live systrm (pre -4.12), maxcstste must be set to 0, in comdline in order to prrvent such freezes
[10:52] <cristian_c> but now , I've rrbooted in livd system, I pressed 'c', I've typed srt root=, and then configfile grub.cfg, and now grub menu appears dirdctly, withput error messages
[10:53] <FreakingOut1987> Ubuntu 16.04 LTS defaults to systemd right?
[10:53] <FreakingOut1987> for some reason my install is giving me signs sysvinit is the default
[10:53] <cristian_c> ubuntu, advanced options for ubuntu, windows boot manager and system setup
[10:53] <Ben64> FreakingOut1987: what signs
[10:53] <FreakingOut1987> pidof /sbin/init && echo "sysvinit" || echo "other" outputs sysvinit
[10:54] <FreakingOut1987> as does, pidof /sbin/init && echo "sysvinit" || echo "other"
[10:54] <cristian_c> alkisg: thank to you, I've regained access to gtub, though by manual mode
[10:54] <FreakingOut1987> whoops same script hold on
[10:54] <Ben64> FreakingOut1987: uh
[10:55] <FreakingOut1987> Ben64, pidof systemd && echo "systemd" || echo "other"
[10:55] <FreakingOut1987> outputs other instead of sysemd
[10:56] <Ben64> your method is quite weird
[10:56] <cristian_c> alkisg: uhm, no, I get always erorr messages screen, unfortuntely
[11:00] <cristian_c> alkisg: unfortuntely, when I choose ubuntu in grub, I always experience the same error lines
[11:01] <cristian_c> alkisg: apparently, they really seem related to a manual editing of grub.cfg. If the issue is related to /boot, I could creste a new one
[11:02] <cristian_c> but I never genersted a new /boot partition. Yestrrdsy, I' ve run also sudo updste-initramfs -u, but nothing changed
[11:12] <ducasse> FreakingOut1987: try 'ls -l /sbin/init'
[11:13] <FreakingOut1987> I figured it out ducasse
[11:13] <FreakingOut1987> I forgot that I replaced systemd with upstart earlier in a shellscript
[11:13] <FreakingOut1987> :)
[11:32] <pinkisntwell> who is listening on "/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket" ?
[11:34] <pinkisntwell> i have an app which writes to "/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket", but i don't know who's listening...
[11:41] <tuxiano> Hi, I try to get plymouth to work with the propitiatory nvidia driver. I added nvidia-drm.modeset=1  to the grub config, ran update-grub and restarted my system, but I still have this broken bootscreen which only shows the dots and has a very low resolution.
[11:44] <hitman1> Hello
[11:45] <hitman1> I tried to install nvidia driver by pressing ctrl + alt + f1 and now (after restarting) I am unable to start my lightdm.
[11:45] <hitman1> Can anyone please help as I am unable to login.
[11:47] <tuxiano> hitman1: hi, what you did after pressing ctrl + alt + f1?
[11:47] <hitman1> I ran the .run driver file of nvidia.
[11:48] <tuxiano> Ok, which ubuntu version do you use?
[11:48] <hitman1> 17.04
[11:49] <hitman1> right now I am purging nvida driver files from console.
[11:49] <tuxiano> ok
[11:50] <tuxiano> then you should be able to login again
[11:50] <tuxiano> what nvidia card you have?
[11:51] <hitman1> I am having nvida gt 1050 ti edition
[11:51] <tuxiano> ok, after you are able to login again you can install the nvida driver from the ubuntu repositories
[11:51] <tuxiano> sudo apt install nvidia-384
[11:51] <hitman1> Still I am unable to login. The login screeen blinks again and again after typing password.
[11:52] <tuxiano> did you restart after uninstalling the manually installed nvidia driver?
[11:52] <hitman1> Yes
[11:53] <Exterminador> thiras_:
[11:53] <tuxiano> hitman1: ok, can you switch to a console?
[11:53] <hitman1> tuxiano: Yes
[11:54] <AurorasAura> I seriously miss the old vi editor
[11:54] <tuxiano> can you run: sudo NVIDIA-Linux-*.run --uninstall
[11:55] <hitman1> No, command not found. tuxiano
[11:55] <tuxiano> where is the run-File located?
[11:55] <hitman1> in downlaods
[11:55] <tuxiano> ok, go to downloads
[11:56] <hitman1> yes
[11:57] <tuxiano> whats the exact name of the nvidia driver file?
[11:57] <hitman1> yes I have typed the exact name of it. It is there in Downloads
[11:57] <tuxiano> sudo *Exact name of the run file* --uninstall
[11:58] <hitman1> I get command not found message again.
[11:59] <hitman1> yes it is uninstalling.
[11:59] <tuxiano> ok
[11:59] <hitman1> I forgot to add ./ in the name. sorry
[12:00] <tuxiano> np
[12:00] <hitman1> Yes I logged-in successfully now.
[12:00] <tuxiano> ok
[12:01] <tuxiano> now you open a terminal
[12:01] <tuxiano> then you run sudo apt install nvida-384
[12:01] <hitman1> Yes I have typed that command.
[12:02] <TJ-> The recommended way to install the correct proprietary drivers is "ubuntu-drivers"
[12:03] <tuxiano> hitman1: after installation finished you can restart your system again
[12:03] <hitman1> Ok I got it now. I will install nvidia drivers as you said always.
[12:03] <hitman1> tuxiano: Thanks a lot.
[12:04] <tuxiano> ok, nice
[12:06] <hitman1> is their any specific way to install cuda or I can install it normally as I did with nvida drivers?
[12:07] <tuxiano> I think there is cuda package available in the ubuntu store
[12:07] <tuxiano> let me have a look
[12:08] <hitman1> Nvidia site is letting me download .deb file first.
[12:09] <tuxiano> ok, I found this sudo apt-get install nvidia-cuda-dev  nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[12:11] <hitman1> tuxiano: So I don't need to download that .deb file ?
[12:11] <tuxiano> sorry, don't know. I never tried working with cuda
[12:11] <tuxiano> Maybe you can ask in the nvidia irc-room
[12:12] <hitman1> np tuxiano , Thanks for your help.
[12:12] <TJ-> !info nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[12:14] <TJ-> looks like ubottu is out of date
[12:14] <TJ-> see https://packages.ubuntu.com/artful/nvidia-cuda-toolkit
[12:17] <tuxiano> what a surprise ...  ;-)
[12:18] <tuxiano> Any ideas: "I try to get plymouth to work with the propitiatory nvidia driver. I added nvidia-drm.modeset=1  to the grub config, ran update-grub and restarted my system, but I still have this broken bootscreen which only shows the dots and has a very low resolution."
[12:19] <TJ-> tuxiano: check the early logs for clues; If GRUB is in gfx mode that can cause problems when needing to modeswitch for the kernel
[12:19] <TJ-> tuxiano: Does it work correct with nouveau driver?
[12:20] <tuxiano> TJ-: yes it works with the nouveau driver
[12:21] <TJ-> tuxiano: Sounds like another of the nvidia kms issues then; not sure there's a workaround. using nommodeset is going to prevent the driver switching into the native resolution though
[12:22] <tuxiano> ok, my boot.log is empty ... which log file I need to check?
[12:23] <tuxiano> syslog?
[12:23] <TJ-> kern.log collects the dmesg output
[12:24] <TJ-> I seem to recall it can be influenced by the gfx mode set by GRUB. I used to set that to the native resolution of the display specifically.
[12:28] <tuxiano> ok, it looks that we need to wait some years more to get plymouth working with the proprietary nvidia drivers
[12:28] <tuxiano> can't even remember how long this issue persists
[12:29] <tuxiano> ...
[12:29] <tuxiano> I just will set it to text mode
[12:32] <tuxiano> Well, we have this issue since 2009 ...
[12:32] <tuxiano> nice
[12:51] <AurorasAura> lol add a raid array to mhddfs...
[12:51] <leftyfb> tuxiano: plymouth has only been part of Ubuntu since 2010
[12:56] <belug> Hi, I've got something wired this morning, after an update yesterday, I've lost the ubuntu wayland DM. This morning I was sent to cinnamon by default. Anyone got any idea on how to get wayland back? (xwayland and ubuntu-desktop are still installed on the system)
[12:59] <ioria> belug, using open source video driver ?
[12:59] <MJCD> hey im having some trouble getting chrome installed
[12:59] <MJCD> anyone doneso?
[12:59] <MJCD> 16.04
[12:59] <belug> @ioria no, I'm using nvidia's drivers
[12:59] <MJCD> I added the repo using the syntax mentioned on 2 sites - then updated, but it just says no google-chrome-stable package
[13:00] <belug> @MJCD, did you try using the installer from google.com/chrome  ?
[13:00] <ioria> belug, not sure proprietary is already (well) supported on wayland
[13:01] <MJCD> belug, haha oh that's a good idea haha, though I do want to use the repo, I suppose it doesn't matter
[13:01] <MJCD> ill try
[13:01] <belug> @ioria So it's probably a Nvida update that broke my setup?
[13:01] <fbnts_> Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right channel or not?  I have been using an ubuntu variant for MythTV for several years but have just upgraded to a new 4k tv.  I'm not too fussed about 4k for MythTV as my content is all HD however ubuntu is insistent on using the highest available resolution, but this doesn't display correctly
[13:02] <ioria> belug,  let's see /var/log/apt/history.log ?
[13:02] <fbnts_> Is there a way to "disable" the higher resolutions?
[13:02] <MJCD> wow the site worked and Software Install took it from there
[13:02] <MJCD> seamless
[13:02] <MJCD> thanks for the heads up
[13:02] <MJCD> xoxo
[13:03] <belug> @ioria here : http://paste.ubuntu.com/26041141/
[13:04] <belug> @ioria, there was an update of ubuntu-desktop, I'll try to roll it back
[13:05] <ioria> belug,  pull over
[13:05] <belug> ??
[13:06] <ioria> belug,  if has been upgraded there is a reason
[13:06] <ioria> belug,  dpkg | grep nvidia
[13:07] <ducasse> fbnts_: which variant is this?
[13:07] <belug> @ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/26041169/
[13:09] <ioria> belug,  that's  a dual graphic laptop intel/nvidia ?
[13:09] <fbnts_> ducasse: MythBuntu
[13:09] <fbnts_> I am now thinking it may be an XFCE specific issue?
[13:10] <belug> ioria, no it's a nvidia only desktop with no onboard video card
[13:11] <ioria> belug,  in this case, you can try to purge nvidia and test ... you can always reinstall it
[13:11] <benergy> Hey guys, I'm trying to process images into one pdf via shell script. How can I avoid that it places img10 before img1 in my pdf?
[13:11] <benergy> I've been using this command: "convert img**.png out.pdf"
[13:12] <Ben64> convert img?.png img??.png img???.png out.pdf
[13:12] <Ben64> would maybe work till 999
[13:12] <belug> @ioria, I'm starting to think that I always was on ubuntu-xorg, but my default session was changed to cinnamon only.... And I thought I was supposed to be on wayland because it was the default of ubuntu 17.10....
[13:13] <ioria> belug,  wayland is default, yes
[13:14] <benergy> #Ben64: Thank you. Can I do that for all files in one folder with 1 command?
[13:14] <belug> @ioria, but since I was always on nvidia drivers, I must have been on xorg.
[13:15] <ioria> belug,  i cannot know for sure :þ
[13:15] <benergy> #Ben64: Oops, sorry. That's the whole point of this command :D THank you!
[13:16] <belug> @Ben64, you could try "convert img{1..999}.png out.pdf"
[13:16] <Ben64> belug: it's late my and i'm trying to figure out javascript, my brain is broken
[13:16] <jeremies> Does samba shares files with computer outside of home network?
[13:16] <Ben64> benergy: do what belug said :)
[13:17] <Ben64> jeremies: it's possible, but a terrible idea
[13:17] <belug> @ioria for now I switched ot ubuntu-xorg, all my settings are back and with your added information the internet tells me that wayland is not supposed to be enable
[13:17] <belug> @ioria thanks a lot for your help.
[13:17] <ioria> belug, no problem
[13:18] <jeremies> Ben64: but by default someone from outside of my home network cannot enter to my shared files, isn't it?
[13:18] <Ben64> jeremies: i wouldn't say that. samba doesn't care where the request comes from
[13:19] <benergy> #Ben64, #belug: Thanks, only then I have to specify the number of the files. The other command works fine, only that it somehow copies img0 into my PDF twice. Any idea why? ;)
[13:19] <belug> Sorry @Ben64 and @benergy, I mixed your user names
[13:19] <jeremies> Ben64: But if you have a router?
[13:20] <Ben64> jeremies: NAT should stop it
[13:21] <belug> @benergy could it be that img0 is present twice in the images?
[13:21] <benergy> #belug: Thank, I just solved it. There was an error in the script I ran before that that duplicated my images :D
[13:22] <benergy> #belug: Just that :D
[13:22] <jeremies> thanks Ben64!!
[13:25] <bmatt> !sources
[13:26] <bmatt> I wonder if it's the same for Lubuntu repos?
[13:30] <ducasse> bmatt: ubuntu repos are the same for all flavors
[13:32] <bmatt> ducasse: alright. ty sir
[13:34] <someone235> Hi, someone knows how to install fglrx on ubuntu? It says "error: Detected X Server version 'XServer _64a' is not supported. Supported versions are X.Org 6.9 or later, up to XServer 1.10 (default:v2:x86_64:lib:XServer _64a:none:4.10.0-40-generic:)"
[13:34] <ducasse> someone235: which ubuntu version is this?
[13:34] <someone235> ducasse: 16.04
[13:35] <ducasse> someone235: fglrx is only supported up to 14.04
[13:36] <jeremies> ufw is disabled by default in ubuntu?
[13:36] <ducasse> someone235: 14.04 without hwe, that is. it's not going to work with later kernels and x stacks.
[13:37] <adrian_1908> jeremies: yes
[13:38] <ioria> jeremies, do you want to use samba outside your local network ???
[13:38] <lundmar> Hi. Is there an irc channel where snapcraft issues can be discussed?
[13:38] <jeremies> iorio, no
[13:39] <jeremies> ^ioria
[13:39] <ioria> ah, ok
[13:39] <ducasse> lundmar: #snappy
[13:39] <lundmar> ducasse: thanks
[13:41] <bmatt> why does it tell me "5 new packages have been held back" during upgrade?
[13:41] <ioria> bmatt, use sudo apt full-upgrade
[13:42] <bmatt> i'm scared :x
[13:42] <bmatt> something about linux-headers and all that. i hope my repos are correct ^_^
[13:42] <ioria> bmatt, it's ok
[13:42] <bmatt> will have to restart?
[13:43] <bmatt> The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-signed-generic linux-signed-image-generic
[13:43] <adrian_1908> no, things that need a restart will simply take effect the next time you do so.
[13:43] <adrian_1908> sudo apt full-upgrade, as ioria said.
[13:44] <bmatt> there must've been some updates released recently? i just installed lubuntu like a few weeks ago
[13:44] <adrian_1908> yes, updates come in regularly and it's a good idea to check for them (or have it scheduled)
[13:45] <bmatt> alrighty then. ty much
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:58] <Mirabellette> Hello everyone
[13:58] <peet> hi
[13:59] <Mirabellette> I tried to install ubuntu on a acer swift 3. I had a previous windows with a efi firmware. I delete the windows partition and keep the efi partition. Can I remove efi partition ? Usb disk with ubuntu is not detect if I am in EFI BIOS, car I install it in legacy bios ?
[14:00] <peet> yes
[14:02] <TJ-> Mirabellette: it depends on the firmware. Are you saying that the firmware will not start the Ubuntu installer in EFI mode?
[14:03] <TJ-> Mirabellette: we've been seeing a LOT of issues with ACER firmware, where you have to access the Firmware Setup > Security menus, and then TRUST the bootloader file on the USB device first
[14:03] <oerheks> i read that swift 3 needs an iso with kernel 4.12 https://askubuntu.com/questions/868433/ubuntu-16-10-acer-swift-3-multiple-problems  https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmint/comments/5lu69k/installing_linux_mint_181_on_an_acer_swift_3/
[14:03] <Mirabellette> In fact, it didn't detect my usb key with ubuntu correctly when I am in efi mode. In legacy mode, I see in bios 'disk xxx with ubuntu blabla"
[14:04] <ikonia> win 1
[14:05] <TJ-> Mirabellette: yes, that's the issue as we see it. You can TRUST the bootloader file as I've described above and then it will appear in the boot menu
[14:06] <Mirabellette> Even if I "trust" it, when I boot with efi bios, my usb key with ubuntu installer is not launch (even if it is place before in bios loader)
[14:07] <Mirabellette> Are you trying to say that I have to modify the efi file with my ubuntu in legacy bios in order to be able in efi mode with ubuntu key ?
[14:07] <alkisg> Mirabellette: How did you create the stick? Not all tools support UEFI, e.g. dd and rufus do..
[14:07] <Mirabellette> I use dd
[14:07] <alkisg> ok
[14:08] <Mirabellette> and last ubuntu release, 17.10
[14:08] <oerheks> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash modprobe.blacklist=dw_dmac,dw_dmac_core"
[14:08] <Mirabellette> Isn't it simple to go in legacy bios if I don't want to install windows anymore ?
[14:09] <Mirabellette> Grub isn't display at all.
[14:15] <Mirabellette> Can I install ubuntu 17.10 and remove efi partition if I did it in legacy bios ?
[14:15] <Mirabellette> (with any risk)
[14:16] <Mirabellette> (if I don't want windows)
[14:18] <oerheks> logically yes, but i have no acer swift 3 to confirm.
[14:20] <Mirabellette> And i can forget to install debian because kernel is only in 4.9 :(
[14:24] <akik> Mirabellette: what do you mean, forget?
[14:25] <Mirabellette> Because acer swift v3 has problem with kernel 4.9. I think I can try to upgrade the kernel manualy but I don't know how to do that.
[14:26] <oerheks> why do you come up with debian/kernel 4.9, as you are trying with 17.10 ??
[14:26] <hypercore> is nginx 1.10 an old version of nginx?
[14:26] <hypercore> is it still usable?
[14:26] <Mirabellette> I mean, If I install Debian and not ubuntu.
[14:27] <Mirabellette> it workds !!
[14:27] <Mirabellette> Thank you all for your help
[14:29] <akik> Mirabellette: there can be many kind of incompatibilities. just saying that model doesn't support 4.9 doesn't tell much
[14:29] <someone235> ducasse: what is hrw?
[14:29] <someone235> hwe
[14:31] <EraserPencil> HI all
[14:31] <EraserPencil> is this a channel to get technical assistance?
[14:31] <compdoc> yes
[14:31] <EraserPencil> excellent. I do hope you would be able to aid me
[14:32] <compdoc> if no one knows, sometimes you have to wait and ask again
[14:32] <EraserPencil> I believe I might have accidentally run `rm -rf *` in my home folder
[14:32] <oerheks> !hwe > someone235
[14:33] <EraserPencil> I thought I could just create a new user via useradd and copy over the folders but the new user created has no home directory folders either
[14:33] <Mehrzad> Hi
[14:33] <compdoc> there are programs that can attempt recovery, and hopefully some here can reccomend some. I use backups
[14:34] <compdoc> ah
[14:34] <oerheks> someone235, in short, newer kernel and tools, but not suited for 14.04/fglrx
[14:34] <akik> EraserPencil: -m for useradd creates the home directory
[14:34] <compdoc> you dont need to recover files?
[14:35] <Mehrzad> I'm having a problem with ubuntu 17.10 where the screen dims after a while even while playing videos. What's the workaround?
[14:36] <TJ-> EraserPencil: you should "adduser" rather than "useradd"
[14:38] <someone235> ducasse: ok thx
[14:38] <EraserPencil> Compdoc: yea, file recovery is a good idea.
[14:39] <Mehrzad> Is it a common bug that i've been experiencing?
[14:39] <compdoc> EraserPencil, if you create a new user, it could overwrite some of your deleted files.
[14:40] <auronandace> Mehrzad: looked under the display settings?
[14:40] <someone235> oerheks: ok. so if I just downgrade to any 14.04 it should be ok, right?
[14:41] <Mehrzad> auronandace: Devices->Displays?
[14:41] <Ben64> someone235: you could use the open source amd driver
[14:41] <EraserPencil> Compdoc: Honestly, I dont recall the folder containing anything anyway. Do you have a solution to put all the home folder back?
[14:41] <someone235> Ben64: which one?
[14:42] <Ben64> probably 'radeon'
[14:42] <Ben64> depends on the card you have
[14:42] <oerheks> someone235, yes, but i see no issues with the open radeon driver/16.04 and up, i run 2 screens with 2 movies same time
[14:42] <someone235> Ben64: I have rx570
[14:42] <compdoc> EraserPencil, no, just checking. please procede
[14:42] <Ben64> then you'd probably use amdgpu
[14:42] <someone235> btw, if it's relevant somehow, the purpose of the computer is to mine ETH
[14:43] <Mehrzad> auronandace: There is this 'Dim screen when inactive' under the Power section and it's on
[14:43] <auronandace> Mehrzad: that is the setting
[14:44] <auronandace> Mehrzad: just change the value
[14:45] <Mehrzad> auronandace: Ah okay. 👍
[14:46] <someone235> Ben64: I used this: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Driver-for-Linux-Release-Notes.aspx
[14:46] <Ben64> ok
[14:49] <EraserPencil> Compdoc: sorry, procede what?
[14:49] <someone235> Ben64: But I need to install fglrx in addition, no?
[14:49] <compdoc> carry on
[14:49] <oerheks> !amd
[14:57] <EraserPencil> Compdoc: theres not much in my home directory folders anyway. I'm not too keen on recovering them, more keen in having them (either by recreating them or by means of recovery)
[14:59] <OrdH> hi guys, anyone around at the moment?
[14:59] <pinkisntwell> Hi again, I'm the guy from yesterday, with the problems in resolving download.docker.com. I also tried on latest ubuntu and I have the same problem. www.docker.com is resolved correctly but download.docker.com gives:    socket.gaierror: [Errno -2] Name or service not known
[15:00] <OrdH> Id need help with LUKS corrupted super block repair
[15:01] <Ben64> pinkisntwell: get a better dns server?
[15:01] <ikonia> OrdH: you'll need to ask the channel and give specific information, the file system doesn't just get damaged on its own, what's happened, what is the problem, what have you tried, what versin of ubuntu etc
[15:04] <pinkisntwell> Ben64: I don't own any dns server sadly.
[15:04] <ikonia> pinkisntwell: you don't need to own one
[15:04] <ikonia> there are many public ones on the internet, eg: google's public DNS servers
[15:05] <pinkisntwell> ikonia: Yes but this is not the problem. If I do nslookup the hostname is resolved correctly and consistently.
[15:05] <pinkisntwell> ikonia: The problem has something to do with ubuntu. Other computers on the network resolve it correctly.
[15:05] <Ben64> pinkisntwell: the problem is with the dns server though
[15:06] <pinkisntwell> Ben64: How do you know?
[15:06] <Ben64> because dns is what turns names into numbers
[15:07] <pinkisntwell> So how come I've never had a problem with DNS in the 7 years I've been using my current setup?
[15:07] <MJCD2> how long you reckon til chrome is default in ubuntu over firefox
[15:08] <MJCD2> id put a cool $2 on it
[15:08] <Ben64> pinkisntwell: not sure why you're fighting this. just pick a different dns server
[15:08] <pinkisntwell> when I do gethostbyname('download.docker.com') I can see the dns server returning the correct information
[15:08] <pinkisntwell> in tcpdump
[15:10] <pinkisntwell> I don't even know how to change the dns server.
[15:10] <ikonia> what do you mean, you do "getbyhostname" thats not a command
[15:10] <pinkisntwell> ikonia: it's a system call
[15:11] <pinkisntwell> ikonia: I call it from python
[15:11] <ikonia> pinkisntwell: I know byt you don't "do it"
[15:11] <pinkisntwell> ikonia: you are extremely smart
[15:11] <ikonia> thanks
[15:11] <pinkisntwell> ikonia: you just successfully demonstrated it on the internet. Congrats.
[15:12] <ikonia> thank you, appreciated
[15:14] <akik> pinkisntwell: are you still on 16.10?
[15:17] <pinkisntwell> akik: i upgraded to 17.04
[15:18] <pinkisntwell> but it didn't help
[15:18] <akik> pinkisntwell: how does your hosts: line in /etc/nsswitch.conf look like now?
[15:19] <pinkisntwell> akik: hosts:          files resolve [!UNAVAIL=return] dns
[15:20] <pinkisntwell> as far as i understand this means that "dns" is never tried
[15:20] <akik> pinkisntwell: try putting "hosts: files dns" and see if it fixes that. i don't know the syntax that 17.04 uses
[15:21] <pinkisntwell> akik: i think this configuration is to enable dnssec, am i correct?
[15:21] <akik> pinkisntwell: don't know
[15:22] <pinkisntwell> i am reluctant to change it because of security
[15:22] <akik> pinkisntwell: this page talks about "resolve" enabling nss-resolve https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/nss-resolve.html
[15:22] <akik> pinkisntwell: oh you have a dnssec setup?
[15:23] <pinkisntwell> akik: i dont know :-) how do i tell?
[15:23] <akik> you're reluctant to fix your system because of security
[15:24] <pinkisntwell> akik: i think there is a reason why it was configured like this
[15:27] <akik> pinkisntwell: there are many reasons why things are one way or another
[15:31] <akik> pinkisntwell: this bug report is saying that if you have "resolve" before "dns", dnssec wouldn't even work https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1624071
[15:31] <pinkisntwell> yes but this was fixed
[15:31] <akik> pinkisntwell: don't know if it's fixed, but if you don't know your dns server is using dnssec, try that "hosts: files dns"
[15:31] <pinkisntwell> and my system has the fix
[15:32] <pinkisntwell> is there a way i canchange the dns that resolve is using?
[15:36] <pinkisntwell> I am searching google on how to change dns server and I have found 4-5 different ways
[15:36] <pinkisntwell> linux is changing extremely fast these days and makes googling things very difficult
[15:38] <compdoc> pinkisntwell, sometimes one must learn to google better
[15:38] <akik> pinkisntwell: yes it's really difficult to follow ubuntu's changes regarding that
[15:38] <EraserPencil> HI! I have question about /etc/skel. It is the directory that adduser references to create the new user right? In it I have examples.desktop, .bashrc, .bash_logout, .profile.
[15:38] <EraserPencil> Am I missing a .config file here?
[15:41] <Joeboy> 2~ls /etc/skel/ -a
[15:41] <Joeboy> .  ..  .bash_logout  .bashrc  examples.desktop  .profile
[15:41] <Joeboy> EraserPencil: ^ is what I have
[15:42] <akik> Joeboy: it's the correct directory. programs add the needed things under .config when they start
[15:42] <Joeboy> I think that's for EraserPencil
[15:43] <akik> yes
[15:45] <Joeboy> Is anybody able to recommend a small usb bluetooth adapter that will work well for audio? I have one in my laptop (doesn't work properly), a usb one (doesn't work properly) and a second usb one that basically works, albeit not perfectly. But that one's too big to keep attached to my laptop all the time.
[15:46] <Joeboy> So I'm up for buying a fourth one if someone can recommend one that works and doesn't protrude much
[15:46] <TJ-> Joeboy: how do they "not work properly" ?
[15:47] <EraserPencil> akik: Thanks. New users I create either with useradd -m or with adduser dont have their home directories. Would you know how I could troubleshoot that
[15:47] <Joeboy> TJ-: They pair and I get a few seconds of audio, then lots of dropouts and "device hung up" or something like that. I googled it and lots of people seemed to have the problem with no solutions.
[15:48] <akik> EraserPencil: sorry i don't know why. i use useradd with -m and it creates the home directory
[15:49] <Joeboy> TJ-: It was actually "Audio device got stuck"
[15:49] <akik> EraserPencil: sudo useradd -m testuser ? look into /home after that
[15:49] <TJ-> Joeboy: That sounds a lot like interference int hr 2.4GHz band, usually from the much more powerful Wifi chips. This is why some Wifi chipsets/drivers have a "bt_coexist" option to help BT not get overwhelmved
[15:50] <ikonia> /w/in 7
[15:50] <Joeboy> TJ-: So maybe I need a more powerful bluetooth adapter?
[15:51] <Joeboy> Given that I can't do much about the amount of 2.4GHz going on around here
[15:51] <EraserPencil> akik: yea I dont get Downloads or Desktop or anything
[15:51] <TJ-> Joeboy: no; BT has set power limits; what you need is to ensure the Wifi module has a coexist option and that it is enabled
[15:51] <akik> EraserPencil: the programs you use will create those directories if needed
[15:52] <EraserPencil> akik: could you elaborate?
[15:53] <akik> EraserPencil: what is the problem? if you need a Downloads directory or Desktop directory now, you can create them ẃith mkdir
[15:54] <TJ-> EraserPencil: /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf controls creation of Desktop/Pictures/Videos etc. It activates xdg-user-dirs-update on GUI user-login which creates those directories iff required
[15:56] <TJ-> EraserPencil: once logged in (at a console or GUI terminal) you can run it manually to create the directories; e.g. "xdg-user-dirs-update"
[15:56] <EraserPencil> akik: there must be something wrong with my /etc/skel. My home directories disappeared (I must have did something) and I'm trying to troubleshoot it. Relogging in didnt recreate those directories. There arent anything in the home directories so I'm not looking to do data recovery. Is there a way to look at user account history (not bash history) to retrace my steps?
[15:57] <TJ-> EraserPencil: does the system have a separate file-system for /home/ --- and is it mounted? If not, check logs in case there are disk or file-system errors reported
[15:57] <AurorasAura> Anyone have a suggestion for a text editor for Ubuntu server 16.04 CLI? I miss the old vi. Now the controls are all weird and I can't do anything without thinking its old style
[15:57] <Joeboy> TJ-: cat /sys/module/iwlwifi/parameters/bt_coex_active
[15:57] <Joeboy> Y
[15:58] <Joeboy> Which I think means I have that enabled already?
[15:59] <EraserPencil> TJ: I was about to post info on my user-dirs.dirs. I cant trace what I did that would have edited the file to have all the the file have XDG_xxx_DIR="$HOME/"
[15:59] <EraserPencil> TJ: I was about to post info on my user-dirs.dirs. I cant trace what I did that would have edited the file to have all as xdg_xxx_DIR="$HOME/"
[16:00] <TJ-> Joeboy: Yes
[16:01] <TJ-> Joeboy: any other powerful wifi emitters close to your BT headset? Phone, Access Point, etc
[16:01] <TJ-> Joeboy: or things like video doorbells, baby monitors, TV transmitters, that all use the 2.4GHz frequencies
[16:02] <TJ-> Joeboy: if you simply have a lot of strong neighbouring 2.4GHz access points that may be enough to cause trouble.
[16:02] <Joeboy> Possibly my phone was somewhere in the general vicinity when I was testing. There's a router at the far end of the next room. Nothing that should reasonably cause a problem, I think.
[16:03] <Joeboy> TJ-: I live in a somewhat populous area of a first world capital, so 2.4GHz is very much a thing here.
[16:03] <TJ-> Joeboy: indeed... lock yourself in a Faraday cage and then test it again :D
[16:04] <Joeboy> TJ-: But if we're blaming interference I'm wondering why one of these bt adaptors seems to work
[16:06] <cariveri> Hi. When my browser opens a popup window then also the desktop is switched. Why?/How to fix this?
[16:06] <TJ-> Joeboy: well, when I've seen it, it's been due to better chipset (CSR) performance. It seems the most likely if you're getting the same symptoms with several different devices. Can you take the laptop/PC to a radio-quieter location for testing?
[16:07] <TJ-> Joeboy: it can also be down to the quality or directionality of the antennas
[16:08] <Joeboy> TJ-: So maybe spending a few bucks (actually £) on a new adaptor is a reasonable strategy, one way or another. It's just a bit of a crapshoot unless somebody can recommend a good one.
[16:10] <TJ-> I've used a lot of different adapters and not seen much difference in performance, relatively. One test you may not have done - pair the headset/speakers with your phone and compare performance?
[16:10] <Joeboy> TJ-: I believe that was working at some point, but I'll just go and try again...
[16:11] <TJ-> Joeboy: If you're buying, I'd suggest one with a CSR radio chipset (Cambridge Silicon Radio)
[16:11] <Joeboy> TJ-: btw I have a friend who complains of what sounds like almost exactly the same issues. He lives somewhere much more rural.
[16:11] <omgina> hello
[16:11] <omgina> how do i determine wherther package X belongs to which repo?
[16:11] <omgina> main,community,restricted.
[16:12] <TJ-> Joeboy: I'm on a farm in the middle of nowhere so I'm the only one creating interference but I've had BT devices drop-out due to the same thing - position relatively to a 2.4GHz Wifi source.
[16:13] <akik> omgina: you can see it with "apt-cache policy package"
[16:14] <TJ-> Joeboy: if the laptop wifi chipset and your access point support it, try moving them to the 802.11a 5.xGHz band
[16:16] <Joeboy> TJ-: Phone bluetooth works fine, fwiw
[16:17] <TJ-> Joeboy: was the headset/phone in the same positions relative to the laptop when you tested?
[16:17] <TJ-> Joeboy: the idea of that kind of test is the conditions should be the same so if it is interference it should affect them as well
[16:18] <TJ-> Joeboy: which Ubuntu release and kernel version is the PC using?
[16:18] <Joeboy> uname -a
[16:18] <Joeboy> Linux Joyce 4.13.0-17-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 6 10:04:08 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:19] <Joeboy> It's a pretty virginal ubuntu 17.04, albeit with my very old home dir copied into it
[16:19] <Joeboy> er, 17.10
[16:20] <Joeboy> I'm not being entirely scientific with the positioning, but it seems fairly repeatable that the phone works fine and the laptop doesn't (except mostly with the third usb adaptor)
[16:21] <Joeboy> Phone is fine when right next to the laptop
[16:21] <neo2> в
[16:27] <knittl> good evening. I cannot connect to HTTPS sites from java (especially not repo.maven.org). I already tried regenerating the ce-certs, to no avail. has anybody else experienced (and solved) this problem?
[16:27] <knittl> when running gradle, I get java.lang.RuntimeException: Unexpected error: java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty
[16:28] <konrados> Hi. I entered a remote ssh, logged in, then forgot about it, came back, and... now I can't do anything, when I type, I can't see characters, ctrl+c doesn't work, what should I do?
[16:28] <knittl> (ubuntu 17.10, doesn't matter if java 8 or 9 is selected in update-alternitves)
[16:29] <knittl> (openjdk-* versions are installed)
[16:29] <Joeboy> konrados: Can't you just log in again?
[16:30] <oerheks> knittl, what guide do you follow? maven.org is down for some time now, http://repo1.maven.org/ is active
[16:30] <konrados> Joeboy, but what about the terminal I have opened, should I force-kill it?
[16:30] <akik> konrados: it might help to set the serveraliveinterval on client side so that ssh doesn't timeout
[16:30] <neo2> I'm sitting on ubuntu now
[16:30] <knittl> oerheks: yes, https://repo1.maven.org/maven2/...
[16:31] <neo2> what is good screenshoter for ubuntu? On windows I use lightshot
[16:31] <konrados> akik, ok, but what should I do *now*, should I kill the terminal? I can't do anything in a 'nice' way
[16:31] <akik> konrados: no you can't access that connection any more
[16:31] <Joeboy> konrados: Probably killing it's fine, unless you know some reason it isn't.
[16:32] <konrados> Joeboy, akik - ok, thanks!
[16:33] <Joeboy> konrados: You could also do ~. , which might feel a bit less dirty.
[16:36] <konrados> Joeboy, but... what is this, I mean, are those keyboard shortcuts or what?
[16:37] <Joeboy> konrados: ~. means "hang up the connection". It only works after typing Enter though, which is not great. I never use it, I'm just vaguely aware it exists.
[16:38] <konrados> Joeboy, ahh, ok, next time I'll try it, although the thing is I could not enter anything, i.e. when I type in characters, I saw nothing
[16:39] <Joeboy> konrados: I think that even if your connection is dead, [Enter]~. will hang it up. The risk is you end up accidentally typing the Enter into a live connection though. Which seems like a bad design choice.
[16:40] <knittl> so how do I troubleshoot java cert problems? :]
[16:41] <TJ-> Joeboy: about your BT issue... are you always connecting the BT adapter into the same port(s)? I'm wondering if it's a lack-of-power issue? Are you able to test them in a powered USB hub?
[16:42] <Joeboy> TJ-: I don't think I have one unfortunately. Thanks for your ideas, btw.
[16:42] <TJ-> Joeboy: another PC maybe? Trying to think of ways to isolate the cause :)
[16:43] <Joeboy> TJ-: Honestly judging by the number of issues other people report, I'm still somewhat suspecting some kind of software / driver / pulseaudio issue.
[16:43] <knittl> I don't even know if this is an ubuntu problem or a java problem
[16:44] <Joeboy> TJ-: Looking at the comments on http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/07/ubuntu-automatically-switch-sound-bluetooth , it seems like there's widespread consensus that bt audio isn't really there yet. But maybe it's just that only the people with problems say anything.
[16:45] <neo2> I used this guide and install wine with lightshot, and now I press PrntScr and calls ubuntu screen but should be run lightshot??? https://app.prntscr.com/en/wine-lightshot.html
[16:46] <knittl> purged all java packages, reinstalled. still same error :-/
[16:47] <knittl> hi. is anybody using java on ubuntu 17.10? I cannot run gradle build, because the connection to https://repo1.maven.org fails with java.security.InvalidAlgorithmParameterException: the trustAnchors parameter must be non-empty
[16:47] <neo2> what means this line? wine ./setup-lightshot.exe
[16:47] <knittl> I've already purged all java-packages and reinstalled
[16:47] <neo2> I installed it and how run? It should automatically start like in windows
[16:48] <neo2> It should have run automatically
[16:50] <TJ-> Joeboy: right; I've been using A2DP since around 2010/12 without issue
[16:52] <omgina> hey
[16:52] <omgina> ubuntu goes bad and the fan goes like too much heat..
[16:52] <omgina> remove it out, fan is rotating too fast and my heart beat too is increasing
[16:55] <omgina> how can i give you the data..
[16:55] <omgina> ubuntu is consuming too much resources...
[16:59] <ikonia> the fan will normally kick in if the cpu is busy, (thats the most common heat source) what processes are using the cpu ?
[17:01] <knittl> hm. setting javax.net.ssl.trustStore seems to work. now what truststore is ubuntu using by default?
[17:01] <knittl> if not /etc/ssl/certs/java/cacerts
[17:03] <Joeboy> omgina: can you type `top` into a terminal? Should tell you what's using cpu.
[17:07] <oerheks> lmsensors gives a better view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[17:08] <omgina> what teh hell is 8.4 us, 3.4 sy, 0.0 ni, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi
[17:08] <omgina> and the top and free says 1.6G but system monitor says 2.2 GiB
[17:09] <TJ-> !ram | omgina
[17:09] <oerheks> time to do some reading https://linuxconfig.org/learning-linux-commands-top
[17:09] <__mapo__> Hi, I've had a dependency problem during the installation of ubuntu server 16.04.03: the following packages have unmet dependencies: apt-transport-https depends on libcurl3-gnutls but is not going to be installed
[17:09] <Joeboy> omgina: You should see a list of processes and the amount of CPU they're using, with the biggest cpu hogs at the top.
[17:10] <oerheks> first check zombie..
[17:10] <__mapo__> I've skipped the tasksel step, installed grub and rebooted the machine and now I'm in
[17:10] <tacomaster> is there anything in linux that mirrors the functions of ad in windows for linux? The major issues I am trying to solve is single account that is the same across all machines and the ability to attached some shared drives to user accounts but block other users from getting to them.
[17:10] <oerheks> but full running fan can be a warning, or just by design untill the system is booted
[17:11] <__mapo__> however tasksel still fails with the error tasksel: apt-get failed (100)
[17:11] <__mapo__> how can I narrow down the problem
[17:13] <TJ-> __mapo__: is libcurl3_gnutls available according to apt-cache policy
[17:16] <__mapo__> yes, available and installed : once logged in I've done apt-get install apt-transport-https
[17:16] <__mapo__> and added mirrors by hand apt-get update before that
[17:18] <TJ-> __mapo__: the repos are using https?
[17:19] <__mapo__> TJ-: I don't know, I've used the mirror: syntax in sources.list
[17:19] <TJ-> __mapo__: is ca-certificates installed?
[17:20] <TJ-> __mapo__: it's a Recommends: of atp-transport-https, but you may have disabled Recommends
[17:20] <__mapo__> yes
[17:21] <TJ-> __mapo__: can you enable debugging capture a log file of the operation?
[17:21] <__mapo__> I had this error during the installation, so it was all as the installation procedure setted it up
[17:21] <__mapo__> sure... if you tell me how
[17:22] <__mapo__> remember that I had to skip the tasksel step during the installation
[17:23] <__mapo__> so the installation itself is probably incomplete
[17:23] <TJ->  Try a manual install of a package using "apt-get -o  Debug::Acquire::https install <package>" where the HTTPS transport will be used
[17:23] <TJ-> arggh, hang on, typo
[17:23] <TJ->  Try a manual install of a package using "apt-get -o Debug::Acquire::https=true install <package>" where the HTTPS transport will be used
[17:30] <__mapo__> TJ-: done... it worked, although I had no specific https message or any message out of the ordinary
[17:31] <TJ-> __mapo__: suggests it didn't use HTTPS then
[17:31] <TJ-> what's the current problem then? tasksel not performing?
[17:32] <__mapo__> yes
[17:33] <TJ-> __mapo__: is this an upgrade or clean install?
[17:33] <__mapo__> clean install
[17:33] <TJ-> __mapo__: try "apt-get update --fix-missing"
[17:34] <__mapo__> done, nothing was installed
[17:34] <__mapo__> just to be sure... I've added this line in sources.list
[17:35] <__mapo__> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt xenial main restricted universe multiverse
[17:35] <TJ-> __mapo__: now try "apt-get -f install"
[17:35] <__mapo__> is xenial right for 16.04 ?
[17:36] <__mapo__> done, nothing was installed
[17:38] <TJ-> Yes, xenial is 16.04
[17:38] <TJ-> try running tasksel in test mode (-t)
[17:39] <__mapo__> can I fake tasksel with something like apt-get install task-server-base, or whatever was the task that was supposed to be installed by tasksel during the installation?
[17:40] <TJ-> __mapo__:  -t should show you a list of commands + packages it would try to install, and show broken dependencies
[17:40] <__mapo__> I have the command but no broken dependencies
[17:40] <__mapo__> I'll try to execute the vommand without tasksel
[17:41] <__mapo__> btw, can I copy-paste in a console?
[17:42] <TJ-> in theory; if the mouse is active (I think that requires 'gpm' )
[17:43] <__mapo__> ok, in effect I have a broken dependency
[17:45] <__mapo__> well, the problem is "package x depends on y but is not going to be installed"... how do I fix this problem?
[17:45] <neo2> linux screenshot http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1511631893.png
[17:45] <mr_lou> So Skype is completely dead on Ubuntu now?
[17:46] <alkisg> __mapo__: in general, apt isn't very good in resolving dependencies. It's the single case where I prefer aptitude. Try `sudo apt install aptitude; sudo aptitude install x` and you'll see exactly why it fails, and it'll give you a few different solutions to it. Put the result to pastebin *before* accepting a solution.
[17:46] <TJ-> __mapo__: it 'depends' on the dependency graph! what are the packages?
[17:47] <neo2> wine doesn't work, There impossible something run
[17:47] <neo2> I'll delete it, will use what is existed
[17:47] <alkisg> mr_lou: afaik, skype.com has a .deb package that you can install normally
[17:47] <alkisg> So no, not dead at all.
[17:47] <neo2> bad screenshoter, impossible compare with windows http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1511631989.png
[17:47] <TJ-> __mapo__: you can use "apt-get -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true install <package>" to discover more
[17:48] <neo2> I see on linux all app significantly worse than on windows
[17:48] <mr_lou> alkisg, Yes, been using it for years. But Microsoft announced a while back that they would close connections from this client. And now it seems they have. At least two of us here in the household can't log in anymore.
[17:48] <pinkisntwell> ok guys, after 1 hour of googling i managed to change the dns servers to google's and now resolving works on my machine yay. I still haven't figured out how to make my changes to /etc/resolv.conf stick. This is a hell of a user experience folks.
[17:49] <alkisg> mr_lou: are you using the older version, or the new one that they have? I think they closed the old one, but of course not their new one which is just a month old or so
[17:49] <mr_lou> I just removed it just now and instead installed skypeforlinux from repository.
[17:49] <mr_lou> Same deal.
[17:49] <mr_lou> alkisg, What's the package you're using?
[17:50] <alkisg> skypeforlinux 8.11.0.4
[17:50] <mr_lou> Yea, same here.
[17:50] <alkisg> https://repo.skype.com/latest/skypeforlinux-64.deb
[17:50] <mr_lou> alkisg, I advice you not to log out then. You probably won't be able to log in again.
[17:50] <TJ-> pinkisntwell: /etc/resolv.conf is a symbolic link to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf, which is AUTOMATICALLY managed by resolvconf. Settings should be via NetworkManager, ifupdown 'interfaces' file, or systemd-networkd, depending on which system is used to manage the network
[17:51] <mr_lou> alkisg, And I obviously shouldn't have said that, because you're obviously going to try it now, and then hate me for it.....
[17:51] <alkisg> mr_lou: they might have tech issues currently, which I guess you should report, and that they'll resolve soonish. Not Ubuntu related, MS service stuff...
[17:51] <pinkisntwell> TJ-: This is what I meant. I don't know which is managing the network so I have to find it and then have to find how to change dns servers there. Why does it have to be so frigging complicated to change the dns servers? Someone took a wrong turn here.
[17:51] <mr_lou> alkisg, In that case it's been going on for 3 weeks.
[17:51] <mr_lou> Doubtful.
[17:52] <alkisg> mr_lou: nah don't worry I'm not using skype  ... ^ that, I haven't realized it yet :D
[17:52] <alkisg> mr_lou: I doubt they released skype for linux a month ago just to block it
[17:52] <mr_lou> alkisg, mkay. :-)   You wouldn't happen to have any suggestions for replacement? Something that lets my daughter videochat with her grandparents?
[17:52] <__mapo__> alkisg: the apt-get command was something like apt-get install server^ however aptitude can't find any packages whosw name or description matches "server^"
[17:52] <TJ-> pinkisntwell: is it a Desktop install? then Network Manager. A server? before 17.10 > ifupdown, 17.10 > netplan for systemd-networkd
[17:52] <mr_lou> alkisg, Something that runs on both Ubuntu and Windoze.
[17:53] <TJ-> __mapo__: ubuntu-server^ ?
[17:53] <pinkisntwell> TJ-: This is server. So I should try netplan I guess.
[17:53] <pinkisntwell> TJ-: This is the first time I hear the term "netplan".
[17:54] <TJ-> pinkisntwell: it's the new way of pre-declaring the network settings.
[17:54] <alkisg> mr_lou: viber? Btw, have you tried any newer versions from https://repo.skype.com/deb/pool/main/s/skypeforlinux/ ?
[17:54] <pinkisntwell> Why do they keep fixing things that are not broken. They just waste everyone's time.
[17:54] <TJ-> pinkisntwell: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes#Network_configuration
[17:55] <mr_lou> alkisg, Actually just found out, when I run Skype, it still runs the old version. I need to run skypeforlinux to see a new version. Actually I remember seeing that. Didn't like it. Requires Microsoft account and other annoying things. I remember now, that's why I didn't want to use it. I'll take a look at Viber. Thanks.
[17:57] <alkisg> mr_lou: so, my normal version didn't work, but when I manually installed https://repo.skype.com/deb/pool/main/s/skypeforlinux/skypeforlinux_8.11.76.8_amd64.deb, it worked fine
[17:57] <__mapo__> TJ-: alkisg: after tasksel -t http://paste.ubuntu.com/26043198/
[17:57] <alkisg> __mapo__: yes, there's no "server^" package or task
[17:58] <TJ-> __mapo__: what is this server? you mean ubuntu-server^ ?
[17:58] <__mapo__> is the task "basic ubuntu server" that I couldn't install during the installation process
[17:59] <cuddylier> Is there a block on ports such as 445 being used for SSH?
[17:59] <__mapo__> and I'ce copy-pasted it, so there's no typo on my part
[17:59] <TJ-> __mapo__: right "server" is a *tasksel* task NOT a meta-package :)
[17:59] <alkisg> __mapo__: http://termbin.com/jn6m is the list of tasks
[18:00] <TJ-> __mapo__: At this stage I suspect what you need is "apt-get install ubuntu-server"
[18:00] <TJ-> __mapo__: that's the one that tasksel cloud-image and server use
[18:01] <alkisg> Hrm. They did change the interface for task installation...
[18:01] <alkisg> No wonder tasksel isn't preinstalled anymore
[18:02] <TJ-> Yes; looks like some bit-rot there
[18:02] <__mapo__> why the output of tasksel -t was the apt-get install server^ line then?
[18:02] <alkisg> __mapo__: apt supports tasks now, so apt install server^ is normal
[18:03] <__mapo__> alkisg: you mean will not be preinstalled on future TLS distos? because as it is today you must use tasksel during the installation process
[18:03] <alkisg> __mapo__: there's #ubuntu-server for server-specific questions, but in my 16.04 desktop installation, tasksel wasn't installed as it was in the past
[18:03] <__mapo__> ok, so apt-get kinda translates install server^ to install ubuntu-server, right?
[18:04] <alkisg> Not exactly, packages have "tasks" as a tag, so apt install server^ searches for all the packages with that tag
[18:04] <TJ-> __mapo__: does the system have tasksel-data insalled too?
[18:04] <neo2> what is differ between apt and apt-get? apt-get is old and should use apt?
[18:04] <alkisg> neo2: pretty much yes
[18:05] <pinkisntwell> TJ-: well, that page was not very useful. It just tells me to read "man 5 netplan"
[18:05] <TJ-> neo2: 'apt' is the user front-end; apt-get is for scripts to use
[18:05] <TJ-> pinkisntwell: that's very helpful! it'll tell you how it's configured :)
[18:05] <neo2> ok
[18:05] <neo2> well
[18:05] <pinkisntwell> TJ-: which is 5-6 pages of arcane BS
[18:05] <__mapo__> TJ-: yes
[18:05] <pinkisntwell> it mentions YAML files on certain locations, however no such yaml files exist on my system
[18:07] <pinkisntwell> OK it's done, I've spent over 3 hours on IRC and google in order to change my fscking dns servers and was still unsuccessful. Nice work Ubuntu devs!
[18:07] <pinkisntwell> Pardon the rant everyone. It was deserved.
[18:07] <alkisg> __mapo__: I just tried, while having tasksel, tasksel-data, and aptitude installed, and then aptitude install server^ works fine
[18:07] <alkisg> Without tasksel, it complained
[18:07] <Joeboy> [obligatory user-blaming/shaming here]
[18:08] <TJ-> alkisg: same here with apt-get... now I have open-isci installed, yay :D
[18:08] <alkisg> Haha
[18:08] <alkisg> I was quick to ctrl+c it :D
[18:09] <TJ-> I tried; it wouldn't let me
[18:09] <neo2> I don't understand, in this articles saying about apt and use sudo get-apt apache2
[18:09] <neo2> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/linux-apache-mysql-php-lamp-ubuntu-16-04-ru
[18:09] <konrados> There is no fish shell in Ubuntu 17 repos?
[18:09] <neo2> I can use apt apache2 and apt-get apache2?
[18:10] <konrados> apt-cache search fish gives me nothing o.O
[18:10] <neo2> is it equal:
[18:10] <neo2> apt-get apache2 and apt apache2 ???
[18:10] <alkisg> TJ-: the downside of you having too fast internet connection; i was still in the downloading phase where ctrl+c works
[18:10] <TJ-> !info fish artful | konrados
[18:10] <TJ-> alkisg: I don't !
[18:11] <alkisg> Heh. Maybe you were only missing few packages then, while I needed 20
[18:11] <TJ-> alkisg: Ctrl+C wouldn't break into the curses progress dialogs though
[18:11] <TJ-> alkisg: probably
[18:11] <konrados> TJ-, but... I don't have it o.O
[18:11]  * alkisg used aptitude, so no curses involved there...
[18:11] <TJ-> konrados: ^^^ "In component universe" ^^^
[18:11] <konrados> TJ-, and what does it mean?
[18:12] <TJ-> !universe | konrados
[18:12] <TJ-> it's about time apt --edit had an option to automatically enable universe/multiverse/restricted/partner!
[18:13] <konrados> TJ-, thanks, reading
[18:20] <rh10> hey! have a nice time everybody :)
[18:21] <rh10> how can i upgrade from 17.10 when new version of ubuntu will be released?
[18:21] <rh10> is it real?
[18:21] <neo2> nano it's  editor for ubuntu
[18:21] <neo2> I heart aobut vim
[18:22] <neo2> nano and vim is equal , old editors
[18:23] <neo2> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_nano
[18:27] <contumax> hi, anyone with mattermost production docker experience?
[18:31] <neo2> got working page http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1511634634.png
[18:41] <konrados> I want to set ServerAliveInterval to *something*, according to http://man.openbsd.org/ssh_config I should edit ~/.ssh/config - but I don't have this file, should I create it?
[18:41] <EriC^^> konrados: sure why not
[18:41] <konrados> ok, thanks!
[18:42] <konrados> I thought that maybe there is something wrong, i.e. that I should have it.
[18:43] <kk4ewt> konrados,  so why are you following a openbsd site if you are running ubuntu
[18:43] <konrados> oooh, I think it is standarized among distros.
[18:43] <konrados> sec.
[18:43] <konrados> *I thought
[18:44] <konrados> I meant "I thought" :P
[18:45] <kk4ewt> the ssh_config in most distros is under /etc/sshd
[18:45] <kk4ewt> not under you /home
[18:46] <[n0mad]> excepts it's talking about client config
[18:46] <konrados> yeah ^
[18:46] <ioria> ~/.ssh/config   is for single user  , /etc/ssh/ssh_config is system wide
[18:47] <konrados> I've read that there is global config in etc/... and per user config for
[18:47] <konrados> yeah
[18:47] <konrados> ok, so ~/.ssh/config
[18:48] <konrados> now I simply put ServerAliveInterval 60
[18:48] <konrados> and reconnect?
[18:48] <__mapo__> ok, now I'm starting to get pissed off... http://paste.ubuntu.com/26043544/
[18:48] <konrados> I found "60" in one of tutorials.
[18:49] <__mapo__> does someone has an idea of what is the problem and how to solve it?
[18:53] <ioria> __mapo__, you have broken packages  that prevent any installation (btw,  run      export LC_ALL=C      and paste again, it will translate in en)
[18:57] <__mapo__> ioria: any specific hint? http://paste.ubuntu.com/26043587/
[19:00] <ioria> __mapo__,  apt-cache policy vim-common
[19:01] <__mapo__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26043630/
[19:02] <ioria> __mapo__,  no good ... can you paste /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[19:03] <EriC^^> konrados: i have 240 in mine, it almost never times out
[19:03] <__mapo__> how about the "policykit-1 : Depends: libpam-systemd but it is not going to be installed" ?
[19:03] <EriC^^> konrados: Host * then on a newline ServerAliveInterval 240
[19:03] <konrados> EriC^^, ok, thanks!
[19:04] <EriC^^> no problem
[19:04] <ioria> __mapo__,  you may have a 'source' problem
[19:06] <ioria> __mapo__,  i'd try to backup sources.list and replace with a new one : https://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Repository/SourcesList#Ubuntu_16.04_Xenial_Xerus   (if you are on xenial)
[19:07] <__mapo__> in sources.list I have the commented installation cd line and a single mirror line
[19:07] <__mapo__> i might have done an update with a non-xenial source in an attempt to solve my problems
[19:07] <ioria> __mapo__, so, try the above suggestion (if you don't want to share it)
[19:10] <konrados> wow, I could not use ssh until I *removed* rw perms for a group on /home/konrad/.ssh/config - why is that o.O?
[19:10] <konrados> until I did that, I got "Bad owner or permissions on...."
[19:12] <Anticom> Hi. I'm on 16.04 and i'd like to install cuda-tookit 8 in order to get going with tensorflow. I've seen that there's a deb provided by nvidia for it ( https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-downloads?target_os=Linux&target_arch=x86_64&target_distro=Ubuntu&target_version=1604 ). Is there any reason to use the runfile over the deb?
[19:13] <konrados> how can I know my settings have been parsed? I mean ServerAliveInterval 60 in my .ssh/config file?
[19:15] <__mapo__> ioria: modified, updated&upgraded, now it seems to work :) thank you
[19:15] <ioria> __mapo__,  good job
[19:17] <Anticom> Oh and can someone please tell me, what the difference between deb(local) and deb(network) is supposed to be? I never heard of that distinction.
[19:44] <tomreyn> konrados: i think ssh -vvv should tell.
[19:46] <tomreyn> Anticom: i assume the 'deb (local)' variant may be for systems which do not have internet connectivity, i.e. my guess is that this variant will not try to get updates online
[19:47] <Anticom> tomreyn: the local deb variant just seems to ship the gpg key needed to add the repository contained in both deb packages
[19:47] <tomreyn> note the different download size, also
[19:48] <Anticom> tomreyn: it's a rather tricky way to ship a custom apt repo. However i don't get why they don't just tell you to add it via apt-add-repository
[19:49] <Anticom> hm might also be, that the local one is actually shipping all the packages locally. Who knows. I've used the netowrk one and i like what it does, mainly giving me automatic updates via apt.
[19:49] <tomreyn> the local variant is 1.2 GB so it's probably not just the key
[19:49] <Anticom> tomreyn: fair enough :)
[19:50] <Anticom> Might be offtopic but someone using tensorflow in here?
[19:51] <konrados> tomreyn, it indeed told it did read the config file, thanks!
[19:53] <jer> Anticom, it's a copy and paste thing -- lower support costs having someone install a .deb vs relying on them to copy and paste the whole contents of what you need them to do <-- my theory anyway
[19:57] <Anticom> jer: somewhat valid point, however this is how every ppa is usually added so i'd assume ubuntu users are familiar to that process
[19:57] <Anticom> But it seems i'm wrong :D
[20:02] <neo2> I've installed this:
[20:02] <neo2> - #LAMP Linux, apach, mysql, php and phpmyadmin
[20:02] <neo2> but it's work not as I need
[20:03] <jer> Anticom, i'm sure many, many are =]
[20:04] <neo2> it put site to html directory and I want many sites
[20:05] <neo2> I got it 127.0.0.1 and files load from /var/www/html/
[20:05] <neo2> I need create domain and sub-domain
[20:05] <neo2> at first many domains
[20:06] <neo2> stie1.com, site2.com.....
[20:06] <neo2> and install control panels
[20:06] <neo2> now create new technical task what I must to do
[20:07] <neo2> will create*
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> neo2: easy on the enter button mate, try to add your issue all in one line
[20:07] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | neo2 did you doublecheck your lamp here?
[20:09] <neo2> oh yes, I forgot remove it
[20:09] <neo2> need to learn how all remove and again install
[20:10] <oerheks> so you wrote here your personal todo list.
[20:10] <neo2> no didn't check, now to try do
[20:13] <neo2> oerheks: I wrote it on google docks, it's little part my todo
[20:13] <lotuspsychje> neo2: is this what you look for? https://daanlenaerts.com/blog/2015/07/05/create-subdomain-with-apache2-on-ubuntu-server/
[20:14] <neo2> lotuspsychje: well, probably, added to bookmarks
[20:26] <ioria> can anyone on firefox 57 play this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XanVOkqHfLg     ?
[20:26] <lotuspsychje> lets c ioria
[20:27] <ioria> lotuspsychje, can you ru it ?
[20:27] <kostkon> ioria, nope
[20:27] <ioria> omg
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> ioria: error
[20:27] <ioria> lotuspsychje, konrados    tanx
[20:27] <kostkon> what gives
[20:27] <ioria> *than
[20:28] <ioria> that works on chromium
[20:28] <kostkon> hmm
[20:28] <oerheks> maybe FF got a reason .. seen many users here with live streams not working
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> ioria: is it any special link or so?
[20:28] <ioria> oerheks, i see
[20:29] <oerheks> but not *all* live streams
[20:29] <ioria> lotuspsychje, just a live stream about brexit
[20:29] <ioria> lotuspsychje,  Countdown to Brexit deadline: The time left to reach a deal
[20:29] <oerheks> 10 days no?
[20:29] <ioria> yep
[20:30] <oerheks> drop the pound and stay \0/
[20:30] <ioria> heheh
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> ioria: hmm firefox --debug freezes on me
[20:31] <auronandace> some videos may not play without drm enabled
[20:31] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i tried --safe-mode ... but not very good at debug
[20:32] <ioria> auronandace, maybe it's the issue
[20:32] <TJ-> ioria: Yes, it works for me... but got umatrix and had to allow all XHR for googlevideo.com
[20:33] <ioria> TJ-, great TJ-
[20:33] <TJ-> ioria: you have a 3rd party site blocker running too?
[20:33] <ioria> TJ-,  nope
[20:33] <en1gma> i have a dual boot setup on an single ssd. ubuntu 16.04 lts x64 desktop and windows 10 64bit. i been in ubuntu for the last weeks almost all the time. something happened where when i select windows boot manager that it restarts me back to the beginning where i pick the os
[20:34] <en1gma> i cant boot into windows
[20:34] <TJ-> use the web-dev console; see if network requests are going out to googlevideo.com
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: perhaps try sudo update-grub ?
[20:35] <ioria> TJ-,  had the same issue all yesterday with  'sky news live'  and suddenly resolved after 9 pm ...
[20:36] <TJ-> ioria: is it timing out, showing a spinner, or what?
[20:36] <ioria> TJ-,  nope, 'An error occurred . Please try again later'
[20:36] <en1gma> ok ill try that now
[20:37] <TJ-> ioria: is your ISP operating a transparent proxy ?
[20:37] <en1gma> do i need to do any other commands after 'sudo update-grub'?
[20:37] <ioria> TJ-,  oh my, really don't know
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: for test try reboot first, and see
[20:38] <en1gma> ok 1 min
[20:38] <ioria> TJ-,  can you play this :   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVHt1_SWTZg
[20:39] <TJ-> ioria: Yes
[20:39] <ioria> TJ-,  i see ...
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: did it work?
[20:42] <ioria> TJ-,  works on chromium.... definetly a ff issue
[20:43] <TJ-> ioria: have you cleared the browser cache? seen a few weird issues for users on FF57 upgrades
[20:43] <ioria> TJ-, aye sir
[20:43] <TJ-> should be something in the web-dev console
[20:44] <en1gma> lotuspsychje it sure did not
[20:44] <en1gma> :(
[20:45] <ioria> TJ-, edia resource blob:https://www.youtube.com/eed4b1a7-3271-4942-b770-a5d9cd071251 could not be decoded.
[20:45] <en1gma> why does linux always mess with my dual boots and i usually lose all my info....
[20:45] <ioria> TJ-,  Error: This error message will be blank when privacy.resistFingerprinting = true.
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> en1gma: when did this start to happen?
[20:46] <en1gma> i been on ubuntu pretty much solid for this last week or maybe two. i just today needed to boot into windows and it wont let me. it says "critical process died"
[20:47] <en1gma> i tried safe mode and also dont restart on failure
[20:47] <en1gma> thats how i got to read the error
[20:47] <auronandace> ioria: that sounds like it wants you to disable "do not track"
[20:47] <TJ-> ioria: maybe http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&p=14723509
[20:47] <ioria> auronandace, i did ...
[20:49] <ioria> TJ-,  nope :(
[20:50] <TJ-> ioria: which version of libavcodec is installed? FF 50. had a release-note saying "blocked versions older than 54.35.1"
[20:50] <auronandace> ioria: did you clear the cache after doing that and reload the page?
[20:50] <ioria> auronandace, yes
[20:51] <ioria> TJ-, well, tru i'am on trusty, but i tested also on artful
[20:51] <neo2> it's old? http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1511643068.png
[20:51] <TJ-> !info libavcodec trusty
[20:51] <ioria> i want to think of server side error
[20:52] <neo2> default didn't work, I reinstalled and got this
[20:52] <ioria> !info libavcodec-extra trusty
[20:52] <TJ-> !info libavcodec-dev xenial
[20:52] <alkisg> en1gma: after windows begins to load (e.g. when you see blue screen of death, it's already started loading), ubuntu is not to blame, it doesn't affect windows operation
[20:53] <TJ-> wonderful - package versions don't reflect the library version!
[20:53] <ioria> lol
[20:53] <TJ-> It's 56 in xenial
[20:53] <neo2> seems this Shutter for screenshot even better than was on windows, not everything is so bad
[20:54] <en1gma> alkisg yea i think your right but how would it get corrupted i havent even been in windows
[20:54] <en1gma> ubuntu is handing off the correct partition to load thats for sure
[20:55] <alkisg> en1gma: sometimes we reboot and windows doesn't load anymore, e.g. because some update broke it. Now, suppose that you reboot into 2 weeks of ubuntu use just between the good and the failed windows boot
[20:55] <TJ-> Trusty-updates has /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libavcodec.so.54.35.1  so that looks OK
[20:55] <alkisg> en1gma: long story short, try to boot from the windows live cd and select "repair" from there
[20:56] <neo2> I wanted to install lightshot, couldn't do it and was disappointed, and installed instead shuttle, and this is very cool app, so many options...
[20:57] <ioria> lotuspsychje, auronandace TJ-    have to go, thanx for helping
[20:57] <TJ-> ioria: in about:config I see media.decoder.doctor.verbose ... might be worth setting that to true
[20:57] <ioria> wait
[20:58] <neo2> shutter*
[20:58] <ioria> TJ-, No decoders for some of the requested formats: application/x-mpegURL
[20:58] <ioria> watch
[20:59] <TJ-> ioria: Ahhh
[20:59] <ioria> TJ-, tells you some ?
[21:01] <TJ-> ioria: on 14.04 it seems ffmpeg packages don't have everything required.
[21:01] <ioria> TJ-, well, ffmeg it's not available at all on trusty :þ
[21:01] <ioria> !info ffmpeg trusty
[21:03] <CountryfiedLinux> Howdy
[21:04] <TJ-> ioria: does the system have chromium-codecs-ffmpeg and chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra installed?
[21:04] <ioria> TJ-,  yes
[21:04] <CountryfiedLinux> The new Ubuntu dock doesn't play well with "hide top bar" extension. The original dash-to-dock extension does. It's an easy fix for the user, but new users may find it frustrating.
[21:05] <ioria> thanks TJ- see you soon
[21:05] <Anticom> Does anyone know where i can get graphviz support?
[21:09] <kostkon> !info graphviz
[21:15] <lotuspsychje> Anticom: man graphviz, join the small #graphviz , or ask your specific question in here?
[21:15] <Anticom> lotuspsychje: i just checked #graphviz there was no one there. maybe i had a typo in my join cmd
[21:18] <JoshuaD> !info xfconf
[21:28] <gluon> any idea when client side decorations will be integrated into firefox?
[21:28] <gluon> in fedora 27 i can activate them through about:condfig already
[21:28] <gluon> on 57
[21:29] <gluon> not sure that's a patch or some compile time option
[21:31] <Anticom> lotuspsychje: This is my dot is telling me and the actual dot file: https://gist.github.com/Anticom/50f55cb537780ee9d53d0de96c9ab0de
[21:31] <Anticom> I don't understand what the problem is
[21:46] <konrados> how was this terminal - file manager called?
[21:46] <konrados> two panels
[21:46] <konrados> blue background
[21:46] <akik> konrados: mc
[21:46] <konrados> ah, thank you akik!
[21:56] <jakeunltd> Looooooove playing with Gnome on the new 17.10
[21:56] <jakeunltd> Got mine looking a lot like ChromeOS atm
[22:06] <JoshuaD> screenshot?
[22:09] <tie> any idea on how to disable title bar on maximized windows in 17.10 ?
[22:10] <tie> also has anyone figured a better way to search through multiple browser windows by title than "Switcher"? the Scale+type searching before 17.10 was ideal
[22:31] <oboma> i need help install ubuntu from usb flash drive or usb prepped sata drive
[22:31] <oboma> i'm getting different errors depending on which way i try
[22:33] <oboma> currently tried usb flash drive loaded with netinstall_x64 iso using rufus
[22:34] <oboma> gets me to the install menu then gets stuck on kernel panic
[22:45] <tomreyn> !md5 | oboma
[22:45] <oboma> alright
[22:46] <oboma> brb
[22:46] <oerheks> describe your hardware ?
[22:47] <noonien> hello folks
[22:47] <noonien> does hiberantion work on ubuntu 17.10 with a swapfile?
[22:47] <tomreyn> !md5sums | oboma also this:
[22:48] <noonien> because my system doesn't appear to hibernate properly (screen goes black, then i'm returned to my lock screen)
[22:48] <oboma> gigabyte p35-ds4
[22:48] <oboma> quad core
[22:48] <oboma> sata ssd
[22:49] <konrados> am I right that apt-get --dry-run install will tell me what will be done if I run it without 'dry-run'?
[22:49] <konrados> sorry...
[22:49] <konrados> am I right that apt-get --dry-run install php will tell me what will be done if I run it without 'dry-run'?
[22:49] <konrados> I added 'php' ^
[22:50] <tomreyn> konrados: that's correct
[22:50] <konrados> tomreyn, cool, thanks!
[22:51] <tomreyn> any of these options works: -s, --simulate, --just-print, --dry-run, --recon, --no-act
[22:51] <tomreyn> you mightr want to add one of -y, --yes, --assume-yes to skip any prompts
[22:52] <tomreyn> and maybe one of -V, --verbose-versions to see the exact package versions
[22:55] <konrados> tomreyn, - thanks! But no, I actually only wanted to know ensure which version of php will be installed. I think that is the way of doing this?
[22:56] <Ben64> konrados: apt-cache policy <package>
[22:57] <konrados> Ben64, ha, indeed, shorter - thanks!
[23:01] <oboma> md5sum.exe -c MD5SUMS ubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso: OK
[23:01] <oboma> md5sum.exe ubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso 0d9fe8e1ea408a5895cbbe3431989295 *ubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:02] <oboma> let me put that on the flash drive again and give you the exact error
[23:04] <tomreyn> oboma: also try this after writing it to the bootable media: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/CDIntegrityCheck
[23:05] <SemiNus> hi
[23:05] <TJ-> You can directly test the hash of the data written to ISO too
[23:06] <SemiNus> I've messed up my dependencies a little.  Help, please ^.^
[23:06] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/0UFQ/raw
[23:06] <oboma> rufus asks me to choose between iso mode or dd mode
[23:07] <oboma> i have to choose dd mode otherwise the computer wont boot from usb
[23:07] <oboma> already tested this
[23:07] <oboma> just fyi
[23:09] <oboma> TJ-: how ?
[23:10] <TJ-> oboma: it assumes you're writing the raw ISO to the USB - from what I read of Rufus, it puts it's own code in between the mobo firmware and the ISO
[23:12] <oboma> TJ-: do you know a better way ? i dont have an optical drive
[23:12] <eelstrebor> i was just looking at this krackattacks-scripts-research zip file from github and when i went to update the repository so that i could use the scripts, a LOT of files were going to be removed along with a LOT of new files to install - i'm not sure that i want to remove/install this stuff - i don't want to break my box - anyone have experience with these scripts?
[23:13] <TJ-> oboma: but I do it like this: "dd if=/dev/sdX count=1 bs=$(stat -c %s ~/Downloads/ubuntu-16.04-server-amd64.iso) | md5sum -"
[23:13] <akik> rufus has a dd write mode which you can get with alt-i
[23:13] <TJ-> akik: thanks; that does a raw write does it?
[23:13] <oboma> right. i'm stuck on windows 10 atm
[23:13] <TJ-> akik: from sector 0 ?
[23:13] <akik> TJ-: i'd assume it does when they call it dd mode
[23:13] <eelstrebor> the problem appears to be with the python-pycryptodome package
[23:14] <TJ-> the way I read it, the images were in partitions and rufus inserts it's own boot-manager
[23:14] <akik> TJ-: when you press alt-i rufus says disabling iso support
[23:15] <TJ-> akik: OK... with it talking about 'formatting' first, it implies it is doing more than a raw byte copy
[23:16] <akik> TJ-: where does it say formatting?
[23:16] <oboma> i just tried the "check disc for defects" option
[23:16] <oboma> initramfs unpacking failed
[23:16] <oboma> lzma data is corrupt
[23:16] <tomreyn> SemiNus: i think ondrej's php PPA is supposed to be used via (f)cgi(d), not as an apache module.
[23:16] <oboma> kernel panic blablablah
[23:17] <oboma> so what did i do wrong :(
[23:17] <SemiNus> tomreyn, yep, also just figured out it's    /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ondrej-ubuntu-php-yakkety.list
[23:18] <buggedout> hey.. Anyone know of a good irc client for ubuntu? looking for something that looks good and is functional?
[23:18] <SemiNus> how can I purge the whole repo?
[23:18] <konrados> buggedout, I like hexchat
[23:18] <secnice> buggedout: weechat
[23:19] <buggedout> im using weechat now.. looking for something a bit more graphical.
[23:19] <TJ-> akik: in the FAQ
[23:19] <buggedout> will check out hexchat.
[23:19] <buggedout> Thanks.
[23:20] <tomreyn> SemiNus: it's a PPa. PPA's can be purged using 'ppa-purge'. The details of this PPa are at https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php/
[23:20] <SemiNus> thank you tomreyn
[23:20] <SemiNus> is it just me, or did IRC become more silent than it was a few years ago?
[23:21] <buggedout> much more silent.
[23:21] <konrados> note this is weekend.
[23:21] <konrados> *notice
[23:21] <konrados> I guess
[23:22] <SemiNus> oh, you're right, I forgot about the weekend
[23:22] <SemiNus> however, even during the week... I feel like IRC has changed
[23:22] <buggedout> I remember when hacking dishnet / expressvu was popular.. those channels were always loaded with no end to the chat..
[23:22] <SemiNus> and there is no replacement,  it's not like people moved over to Slack or so...
[23:22] <SemiNus> I feel like people are not chatting and helping each other as much as it was back in the day
[23:23] <SemiNus> buggedout, I must have missed that trend totally, never heard of those
[23:23] <buggedout> <---- old
[23:23] <buggedout> :P
[23:23] <konrados> this is actually something what bothers me as well, where did ppl go? Not fb, not slack, not discord... o.O
[23:24] <SemiNus> konrados, not real life
[23:24] <konrados> :)
[23:24] <SemiNus> ^.^
[23:24] <buggedout> netflix and chill.. pof.. rofl
[23:26] <SemiNus> sorry, I must come back to my ppa-purge problem:
[23:26] <SemiNus> ppa-purge -o ondrej/php
[23:27] <SemiNus> what am I doing wrong?
[23:27] <tomreyn> -o, no sudo
[23:28] <SemiNus> I am root
[23:28] <akik> TJ-: rufus just starts writing directly in the dd mode
[23:28] <TJ-> akik: shame it doesn't have a way to compare the hash of the image too
[23:28] <SemiNus> in the usage examples, it says:  sudo ppa-purge [ppa:]ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[23:29] <SemiNus> so I changed it to:  ppa-purge [ppa:]ondrej/php
[23:29] <SemiNus> and it still won't work
[23:29] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/eweV/raw
[23:33] <tomreyn> SemiNus: fix your sources.list first of all.
[23:33] <SemiNus> tomreyn, my sources.list is nice
[23:33] <SemiNus> just the official repos + the ones from trinity desktop
[23:33] <tomreyn> SemiNus: the error message says othersise
[23:34] <SemiNus> tomreyn, there are some files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[23:35] <tomreyn> SemiNus: right, either /etc/apt/sources.list is wrong or one of the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[23:35] <SemiNus> tomreyn, sorry for bothering. Please tell me how "wrong" would look like in this context.
[23:35] <SemiNus> I am not sure what to look out for.
[23:36] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/p3vv/raw
[23:36] <tomreyn> SemiNus: rgrep ubuntu-mate-dev /etc/apt/sources.list*
[23:36] <tomreyn> the last one is probably wrong then
[23:36] <tomreyn> you could try using ppa-purge on it
[23:36] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/xanN/raw
[23:37] <SemiNus> what would be wrong about Mate?
[23:40] <tomreyn> SemiNus: nothing is wrong about mate. something is wrong about using a PPa which is no longer working.
[23:40] <tomreyn> *PPA
[23:40] <SemiNus> I try to purge it
[23:42] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/iaUt/raw
[23:42] <SemiNus> sorry for bothering, I am really stuck
[23:42] <oerheks> ppa-purge ppa:ondrej/php
[23:42] <oerheks> don't use brackets, i guess
[23:43] <SemiNus> oerheks, the manpage mentioned the brackets
[23:44] <Ben64> SemiNus: it doesn't mean them literally
[23:44] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php
[23:44] <oerheks> yes, anotation needs to be filled in ofcourse
[23:46] <SemiNus> I tried every option.  Still the same error
[23:46] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/JsyJ/raw
[23:46] <tomreyn> SemiNus: you'r enot bothering, i just lack time right now. try: ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-mate-dev/xenial-mate
[23:46] <SemiNus> and I also cannot purge mate
[23:47] <tomreyn> and then: ppa-purge ppa:ondrej/php
[23:47] <buggedout> hrrm hexchat is pretty decent.. thanks for the recommendation!
[23:47] <oerheks> ondrej seems to be gone, mate-dev only
[23:48] <SemiNus> https://dpaste.de/0CXQ/raw
[23:52] <oerheks> *if* you are on yakety 16.10 now, i don't wonder that the servers are down ..
[23:52] <SemiNus> it's only 1 year old?!
[23:52] <SemiNus> I only want PHP running again :(
[23:52] <oerheks> yes, but 9 months support
[23:52] <Ben64> only supported 9 months
[23:52] <oerheks> !yakkety
[23:53] <SemiNus> I see
[23:53] <SemiNus> that's a problem then
[23:53] <Ben64> yes it is
[23:53] <kaosine> pff not as bad as the disc of 10.14.1 that I have still XD
[23:54] <SemiNus> is it safe to upgrade the running machine with the messed up sources?
[23:54] <SemiNus> or shall I backup my files and erase everything?
[23:54] <kaosine> that's over 7 years old....but if you want a release that lasts longer I'd get lts just sayin'
[23:54] <SemiNus> kaosine, I am still using KDE 3
[23:55] <oerheks> ppa's will automatic be disabled, aFAIK
[23:55] <SemiNus> (forked as trinity desktop)
[23:55] <SemiNus> okay then I try it
[23:55] <kaosine> I'd be on the safe side and back up then reinstall unless there's a way to repair in the installer....
[23:55] <kgbme> o/ do i just install with apt? jobs-admin requires dbus and i can't install it with pip: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26045352/
[23:56] <oerheks> back to 16.04 LTS and maybe adding HWE, or 17.10
[23:56] <oerheks> !hwe
[23:58] <SemiNus> I am risking it and upgrade the system now
[23:58] <SemiNus> thank you for all your help