[02:58] <subh> ochosi: Thanks :)
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[10:59] <ochosi> weird, simple scan seems to be buggy/broken in artful
[10:59] <ochosi> i don't see my scanned pages
[10:59] <ochosi> wondering if that's a problem of widget packing/us not using headerbars
[11:06] <flocculant> ochosi: was working last time I used it there - still works in bionic here the other day
[11:12] <flocculant> bbl
[15:16] <ochosi> i'm wondering whether it
[15:17] <ochosi> 's possible that the elementary libreoffice theme in ubuntu is not up-to-date..
[15:17] <ochosi> unpacking the zip suggests that at least (and that also explains some missing icons)
[16:40] <ochosi> bluesabre: maybe we should either make the setting clearer in -settings or always apply the screensaver timeout in the greeter: https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1507983
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[17:02] <bluesabre> ochosi: the latter sounds sensible
[17:11] <ochosi> congrats on the release, bluesabre 
[17:14] <bluesabre> thanks ochosi 
[17:15] <bluesabre> simple scan works here for me on artful
[17:15] <bluesabre> maybe your scanner is broken :o
[17:22] <ochosi> if i click save the content is there
[17:22] <ochosi> but there is no preview/view of it
[17:22] <ochosi> maybe you wanna link the bugreport to our devel blueprint so we fix it this cycle
[17:24] <ochosi> really strange, the content of libreoffice git and ubuntu's pkg is not the same...
[17:24] <ochosi> they really should have kept Sweetshark around :/
[17:29] <bluesabre> ochosi: I think there is some process involve when they go to release that merges the icon sets
[17:29] <bluesabre> but I don't know that for sure
[17:33] <ochosi> we should definitely check
[17:33] <ochosi> maybe i've also fiddled with my system
[17:33] <ochosi> so just to be sure, if you could check too...
[17:48] <bluesabre> Sure thing
[17:49] <bluesabre> ochosi: so I should just compare the icon packs on git vs ubuntu?
[17:53] <ochosi> yeah, pretty much
[17:54] <ochosi> you can check for savechanged_large.png
[17:54] <ochosi> i couldn't find that on ubuntu whereas it's in libreoffice git, in the core repo
[17:54] <ochosi> (i'd recommend a shallow clone, the repo is fairly... huge)
[18:00] <bluesabre> ochosi: latest bionic proposed package, these are the "save" files http://paste.ubuntu.com/26043237/
[18:01] <bluesabre> 1:5.4.3-0ubuntu1 
[18:02] <bluesabre> if you'd landed them anytime since 5.4's UI freeze, probably won't see them until the next major point release
[18:07] <ochosi> bluesabre: but savechanged_* are missing
[18:07] <ochosi> and those are in libreoffice git
[18:30] <bluesabre> ochosi: I'd go ahead and file a bug in lp for it
[18:31] <bluesabre> Maybe we can find Sweetshark v2
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[19:06] <bluesabre> oh boy!
[19:07] <flocculant> heh
[19:07] <flocculant> I was just going to ask if we're going to that :D
[19:07] <bluesabre> considering the trouble we've had in the past with thunar, let's start in experimental for that
[19:07] <flocculant> bluesabre: yea :D
[19:08] <flocculant> can't make :D anymore uppercase - even though I'd want to lol
[19:08] <Unit193> Yeah was going to say, not gonna touch that one. :P
[19:08] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[19:08] <slickymaster> :)
[19:09] <flocculant> I do at least use thunar a fair bit every day 
[19:09] <slickymaster> on a regular basis here
[19:09] <bluesabre> just need to upload pa-plug and thunar to experimental this weekend to play with
[19:09] <flocculant> lmao - everyone is coming out of the woodwork to laugh at the thunar update 
[19:09] <flocculant> woohoo
[19:09] <bluesabre> pa-plug should be fine, but good to test anyway
[19:09] <slickymaster> lol
[19:10] <flocculant> bluesabre: yep - look forward to that 
[19:11] <Unit193> bluesabre: Already in svn, wasn't me.
[19:14] <ochosi> to be honest i've been using git master (coming 1.7.0) for quite a while now and it was more stable than thunar was in the past years
[19:14] <ochosi> bluesabre, flocculant: regarding the libreoffice icon theme we'd have to talk to osomon in #ubuntu-desktop
[19:15] <Unit193> One user isn't good enough testing. :>
[19:15] <ochosi> and i guess we need to test the state of LO git master
[19:15] <flocculant> ochosi: ack - saw that in the channel - guessed the action there was you :p
[19:19] <flocculant> ochosi: I'll test anything within reason
[19:23] <ochosi> Unit193: obviously
[19:28] <bluesabre> ochosi: good to see others are also contributing to the lo-elementary theme
[19:33] <Unit193> ochosi: Not trying to overrule you or anything, I'm just a bit worried about repeating history.  As far as the gtk3 version goes though, I'd prefer to hold off a bit since there's other plugins in the repo that won't have time to port.
[19:33] <Unit193> I never really hit that issue much either, it was mostly my reading flocculant and getting a bit frustrated that nothing would fix it, and I couldn't properly reproduce it myself. :/
[19:35] <flocculant> Unit193: you talking about thunar?
[19:35] <bluesabre> Definitely don't recommend shipping thunar 1.7.x
[19:35] <bluesabre> Too risky and the pains of the last bad thunar still haunt me
[19:36] <flocculant> :)
[19:39] <bluesabre> Time to head out for the day
[19:39] <flocculant> have fun
[19:39] <bluesabre> Unit193: if you want to package some things into exp, that'd be cool, otherwise will do them tonight/tomorrow
[19:47] <Unit193> :3
[19:59] <knome> hmm
[20:22] <ochosi> Unit193: oh sorry, i was not suggesting we ship it :)
[20:23] <ochosi> but offering it in a PPA might still be valuable (qa-experimental)
[20:23] <ochosi> knome: thanks for the snail mail <3
[20:23] <flocculant> wfm
[20:24] <knome> ochosi, good good :)
[20:27] <ochosi> so regarding the LO theme: in the 5.4 branch the needed icons weren't there already
[20:27] <ochosi> so someone else added them
[20:27] <ochosi> so we'll get them in the next LO release
[21:33] <Unit193> https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-mate/numix-gtk-theme.git/commit/?id=3d392cfec62dcd4ff464e9c1b656723ba42072fd - https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-mate/numix-gtk-theme.git/commit/?id=8411a588466593973a3d2c33db30be19723e0730
[21:44] <ochosi> bluesabre: we should also test LO 6beta asap, i presume the missing icons are already integrated there (so we may be just fine in LTS)
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[23:33] <ochosi> bluesabre: so just fyi, LO 6.0 looks okayish with elementary. not that much work there at first glance