[00:00] <rbasak> Anything else is your responsibility (you put them there...)
[00:00] <apb1963> I see
[00:01] <apb1963> well, back to the grindstone for me.  Thanks again!  Happy Thanksgiving if appropriate :)
[00:01] <rbasak> There are also cases where multiple packages share a configuration directory
[00:01] <rbasak> Or a package drops configuration in for another package in its configuration directory.
[00:01] <rbasak> And then it becomes impossible to remove the directory on purge because stuff will be missing upon reinstall, etc.
[00:03] <apb1963> well.. i'm of two minds on the matter... there's something to be said for "clean up after yourself", but I think there needs to be a third option... like... superpurge or something.
[00:05] <rbasak> I can understand why you want it. But that doesn't make it easy to implement :)
[00:09] <apb1963> nothing worthwhile is ever easy :)
[00:10] <rbasak> We don't really think about servers like that any more anyway.
[00:10] <rbasak> Put it in a container. Rather than purging the package, throw away the container :)
[16:35] <ubuntu_padawan> hi I have a ubuntu server setup on a usb drive that i want to create a backup iso of and also use a copy of that drive to load in virtual box whats the best way to go about creating an iso of the thumb drive ?
[18:42] <tomreyn> ubuntu_padawan: why an iso?
[18:45] <tomreyn> personally i'd just create a raw disk image. it won't fit ona dvd anyways
[18:47] <tomreyn> if you still insist on n iso, there are the following tools: linux respin, systemback, linux live kit (i have no experience with either).
[18:47] <ubuntu_padawan> tomreyn, hi want to be able to use it in virtual box as well
[18:48] <tomreyn> a raw disk image is fine for that
[18:49] <ubuntu_padawan> oh can they be loaded the same way as iso's never used um before in virtual box
[18:50] <tomreyn> https://www.howtoforge.com/using-raw-devices-in-virtualbox-vms
[18:50] <tomreyn> part 3 is what matters, unless you have a raw disk image file, then you can just use that, i think
[18:50] <ubuntu_padawan> cheers tomreyn ill check that out!
[18:52] <tomreyn> ubuntu_padawan: keep in mind that the vmdk file created on this how.to is just a translation layer - it accesses the actual hard disk. so don't use that hard disk elsewhere while you use it in virtualbox
[18:53] <tomreyn> ...or you will loose data
[18:54] <ubuntu_padawan> dont quiet understand whats the difference between that and .vdi ?
[18:55] <tomreyn> just a different format
[18:56] <ubuntu_padawan> ah i was hoping to have something a bit more robust that i can load on virtual box on a windows machine
[18:59] <ubuntu_padawan> so if i created to raw disk copies one for virtualbox and one as a back up that should be fine so long as virtualbox is the only program that access the vmdk?
[19:22] <tomreyn> ubuntu_padawan: the how-to i pointed you to explains how to use an existing raw disk as a backing storage for a virtualbox VM. if you use it this way, you must ensure that only one system uses it at a time. alteratively, you can create a raw disk image (a copy of your existing storage), in VDI file format, and use that in virtualbox.
[19:23] <tomreyn> that, too, can only be used in one system at a time. but since it's a copy of the original storage, you could use the original storage and the VDI image of it at the same time.
[19:26] <apb1963> 16.04 LTS: setup a DNS server to authoritative, but I'm having several issues.  The first one that needs resolving is what dig says: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 2222
[19:26] <apb1963>  named.conf.options here: https://pastebin.com/TCvvkwCV
[19:26] <ubuntu_padawan> yeah ive had a look at it and as you siad it seems no different than the way i use virtual disk. the original will be a live server on a different machine, and the copy will be loaded via virtual box for testing purposes, so i dont break my live server  thanks for the info
[19:26] <apb1963> s/to/to be/
[22:28] <Sling> I used the installer to automatically partition my disk with a boot partition and a single partition with the rest using LVM, I notice that sda1 is /boot, sda2 is an extended partition with sda5 as first logical partition in sda2 (and as LVM pv), does it skip sda3 and sda4 because there can be 2 more primary partitions?
[22:28] <mike-zal> why do I have /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser and other similar profiles in apparmor on server, when this is minial, fresh instalation?