[00:00] Anything else is your responsibility (you put them there...) [00:00] I see [00:01] well, back to the grindstone for me. Thanks again! Happy Thanksgiving if appropriate :) [00:01] There are also cases where multiple packages share a configuration directory [00:01] Or a package drops configuration in for another package in its configuration directory. [00:01] And then it becomes impossible to remove the directory on purge because stuff will be missing upon reinstall, etc. [00:03] well.. i'm of two minds on the matter... there's something to be said for "clean up after yourself", but I think there needs to be a third option... like... superpurge or something. [00:05] I can understand why you want it. But that doesn't make it easy to implement :) [00:09] nothing worthwhile is ever easy :) [00:10] We don't really think about servers like that any more anyway. [00:10] Put it in a container. Rather than purging the package, throw away the container :) [16:35] hi I have a ubuntu server setup on a usb drive that i want to create a backup iso of and also use a copy of that drive to load in virtual box whats the best way to go about creating an iso of the thumb drive ? [18:42] ubuntu_padawan: why an iso? [18:45] personally i'd just create a raw disk image. it won't fit ona dvd anyways [18:47] if you still insist on n iso, there are the following tools: linux respin, systemback, linux live kit (i have no experience with either). [18:47] tomreyn, hi want to be able to use it in virtual box as well [18:48] a raw disk image is fine for that [18:49] oh can they be loaded the same way as iso's never used um before in virtual box [18:50] https://www.howtoforge.com/using-raw-devices-in-virtualbox-vms [18:50] part 3 is what matters, unless you have a raw disk image file, then you can just use that, i think [18:50] cheers tomreyn ill check that out! [18:52] ubuntu_padawan: keep in mind that the vmdk file created on this how.to is just a translation layer - it accesses the actual hard disk. so don't use that hard disk elsewhere while you use it in virtualbox [18:53] ...or you will loose data [18:54] dont quiet understand whats the difference between that and .vdi ? [18:55] just a different format [18:56] ah i was hoping to have something a bit more robust that i can load on virtual box on a windows machine [18:59] so if i created to raw disk copies one for virtualbox and one as a back up that should be fine so long as virtualbox is the only program that access the vmdk? [19:22] ubuntu_padawan: the how-to i pointed you to explains how to use an existing raw disk as a backing storage for a virtualbox VM. if you use it this way, you must ensure that only one system uses it at a time. alteratively, you can create a raw disk image (a copy of your existing storage), in VDI file format, and use that in virtualbox. [19:23] that, too, can only be used in one system at a time. but since it's a copy of the original storage, you could use the original storage and the VDI image of it at the same time. [19:26] 16.04 LTS: setup a DNS server to authoritative, but I'm having several issues. The first one that needs resolving is what dig says: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 2222 [19:26] named.conf.options here: https://pastebin.com/TCvvkwCV [19:26] yeah ive had a look at it and as you siad it seems no different than the way i use virtual disk. the original will be a live server on a different machine, and the copy will be loaded via virtual box for testing purposes, so i dont break my live server thanks for the info [19:26] s/to/to be/ [22:28] I used the installer to automatically partition my disk with a boot partition and a single partition with the rest using LVM, I notice that sda1 is /boot, sda2 is an extended partition with sda5 as first logical partition in sda2 (and as LVM pv), does it skip sda3 and sda4 because there can be 2 more primary partitions? [22:28] why do I have /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser and other similar profiles in apparmor on server, when this is minial, fresh instalation?