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SemiNusI'll come back after the upgrade00:00
SemiNusthank you tomreyn, Ben64, oerheks and all the other nice people here!00:01
oerhekshave fun!00:01
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gw1sh1nCan anyone recommend a reliable VPN for Ubuntu? I have found some that work well for my Mac and Windows computers, but those same services disconnect all the time on my Ubuntu machine.00:41
timypgw1sh1n I use open VPN server but run it off my router but I know the VPN client its self works pretty well00:42
timypare you looking for a VPN client or server solution?00:43
gw1sh1nClient. I guess I should have made that clear00:43
gw1sh1nI've used Mullvad, BlackVPN, VPNTunnel and a few others but the sll seem to disconnect after a few minutes of use00:44
gw1sh1n*they all00:45
timypwhat vpn server are you using? and what protocol ? openvpn, PPTP, L2TP, IPsec?00:45
timypsorry I was typing as you posted that00:46
gw1sh1nI'm using OpenVPN protocol. From what I've read, PPTP and L2TP have some flaws00:46
gw1sh1nSo I'd like to keep using OpenVPN for that reason00:46
buggedouti like nordvpn because it's not in canada / usa and it's fast and stable00:47
buggedoutalso they don't log00:47
timypPPTP is broke as far as security not aware of any issue with IPsec00:47
gw1sh1n@buggedout No problems with frequent disconnections?00:47
buggedoutthey have a black friday deal going on too right now.. i got 3 years for 99 bucks.00:48
t0no6agwlshln : yeah,agree,NordVPN it is a great choice00:48
timypso I know with the openvpn client there is an option you can add to cache the password, if you don't do that it will disconnect after x amount of time until you re-auth00:48
buggedoutyeah so far im really pleased.. you can double encrypt too00:48
timypare you getting any errors from the client when the disconnect happens?00:49
gw1sh1nAs in logs?00:50
gw1sh1nI actualy don't know how to check that. I'm still learning my way around Linux00:50
timypI see okay so what VPN client are you using now?00:52
timypnorm most applications will leave a log in /var/log00:52
timypwhich can be views by running tail -f /var/log/logile_name.log )or where ever the location of said log is00:53
timypso track down the log file for the client you are using, that will be the best way to get to the bottom of the problem. Also are you sure its not an issue with the VPN server its self, or is it only the ubunut client giving you problems?00:54
kaosinehrmm I wonder what would happen if I were to put a ssd in this laptop and put xubuntu/lubuntu on it(I am getting in a big mood to put linux on everything of mine XD)00:57
bazhangkaosine, thats a great topic for #ubuntu-offtopic00:58
buggedoutafter having ssd's in my last 3 laptops i'd never go back.00:58
kaosinebazhang: really?00:59
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bazhanglets keep to technical support here please00:59
bazhangchit chat in the offtopic channel00:59
kaosinebuggedout: yeah...never had a ssd before(too broke for it) but yeah00:59
bazhangkaosine, yes00:59
kaosinebazhang: well I'm still not sure what I'm going to put on it though....regular ubuntu I know is a no go >_>01:00
kaosineso there in it's still technical stuff I think :-\01:00
Zenseiso I want to use my buddies comp as a server, do I literally just connect to server or do I connect via SSH and learn all about that?01:00
bazhangkaosine, then try something lighter, lubuntu comes to mind01:00
timypSSD are great you will notice more performance than you would just by doubling the RAM in a system01:01
kaosineugh I need to go ask my grandmother her password I need to double check the specs but it should only have 4gb of ram I think...01:01
kaosinetimyp: well I think they maxed the system out at 4gb but I could be wrong01:01
buggedoutthis laptop  is about 1.5 years old has 16gb of ram and a midline ssd.. runs fine.. I7 7gen processor. can't kick01:02
timypan SSD will make all the difference01:02
obomais there a way to see installation progress during ubuntu's gui install ?01:02
kaosineyeah some form of amd a6 here...ok I'm getting up to check that password01:02
bazhangtimyp, buggedout kaosine the offtopic channel or ##hardware for this please01:02
obomacan i see the commandline somehow ?01:03
tomreynoboma: if you're talking about updates, there should be a triangle icon you can click on to get the command output01:04
obomatomreyn: no, i am on the partitioning step of ubuntu install gui and its taking quite some time01:04
buggedoutyeah the install itself is either command line or gui.. i don't think you can do both.. afaik01:04
obomai'm starting to wonder if my boot order isnt the pb01:05
obomabuggedout: ok01:05
buggedoutmaybe you have safeboot on?01:05
timypif you can get to a termincal try debconf-apt-progress01:05
timypterminal *01:05
buggedoutmore than likely something to do with efi.01:06
tomreyni think the only task in partitioning that would take long is crypto disk if you chose to zero them out.01:07
kaosineok so amd a6-4400 and 8gb of ram, that's still lubuntu I should be looking at right?01:13
Ben64you can run anything on that01:13
bazhangkaosine, 8gb of ram will run any and everything01:13
bazhangkaosine, ubuntu has a requirements page to read01:14
bazhang!requirements01:14
ubottuHardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu01:14
bazhangkaosine, ^01:14
kaosineI just wasn't sure....I'm not a hardware guy if you can't tell. I'm still confused looking at potiential upgrades for the desktop she gave me. and amd processors has the worst numbering system imo01:14
kaosines/has/have01:15
kaosineI don't think I'm ever going back to windows now unless i'm forced to that is though01:19
gw1sh1nkaosine Just install VirtualBox and put a Windows VM on your computer. The only thing I have to use Windows for is Word documents every once in a while01:20
kaosinewell even that I'm almost certain I can avoid with libre :P01:20
Ben64office 365 exists too01:21
gw1sh1nEvery once in a while the formatting is off with libre, which is the only reason I even have the windows vm01:21
kaosineyeah and I still don't like 365. I have it through school for free and I still prefer libre. I never do anything advanced with it anyways...01:22
bazhangkaosine, did you some specific technical support issues, or just want to chatter01:24
kaosinewell I've still been trying to figure out why my kubu install on this desktop is flickering every once in awhile(i've been googling it but I wouldn't be surprised if that last apt-update did it knowing my luck and I need to restart)01:25
obomaso, i had this wifi usb adapter that was making the installation loop indefinitely01:26
obomaall i did was unplug it and off it goes finishing the install in seconds01:26
kaosinewait....wifi usb adapter? those still exist?01:27
obomakaosine: the mobo is 10yo01:29
kaosineok that explains it01:29
kaosineI just haven't heard of those things in FOREVER01:29
kaosinenot since we built computers in my junior year and we only had those because we were testing network stuff(with tm nations >_>) on those computers01:30
kaosinehave I heard of anyone using or having those01:30
konradoskaosine, I do.... o.O since when wifi is a standard in desktop (non-laptop) machines?01:42
konradosI mean they install it quite often, but it's still not that common (I think)01:44
kaosinekonrados: for a long time....most stores sell them with wifi in them now a days if you don't build it yourself01:45
konradoskaosine, ah, now I thought I've never bought a pc ready 'out of the box' :P01:46
arooniis there a way to automatically run sudo apt-get update so i can get regular software updates ?  i forget to do it pretty often02:11
kaosineprobably, but why not just set a calendar reminder on the thing to remind you? that's what I'd do XD02:13
rainingimpalaI'm not sure if it would be advisable (I'm pretty new to Linux) but you could edit your crontab02:17
rainingimpalaRather02:18
rainingimpalaYou would have to edit root's crontab02:18
rainingimpalaWhich you can do thorugh:02:18
rainingimpala$ sudo crontab -e02:18
rainingimpalaRead through some literature online or relevant man pages to get the syntax right (there's a useful online tool called Corntab that can assist as well)02:19
rainingimpalaAlso, yes, the website it Corntab, but the program that it helps with is cron02:20
krabadorarooni , in a way , it's a little bit unsecure to set update automatic02:20
krabadorbecause if something goes wrong, or some new versions of something is buggy, or with issues with your hardware, you've a nuclear war after reboot02:21
rainingimpala^ that's why I was unsure as to whether cron-ing a software updates would be good02:22
rainingimpalaHowever02:22
rainingimpalaSince updating just gets the latest package and doesn't install it until it is upgraded02:22
rainingimpalaI think it should be fine so long as crontab is not edited to include $ apt upgrade02:23
krabadorthat https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticSecurityUpdates02:23
krabadorit's useful about02:23
krabadorthe last line is about generic automatic updates.02:24
waltmanI'm having trouble printing. I printed a few test pages after a reboot and it worked fine. Then I printed something that got my printer into a weird state, which I fixed by turning it off and on. Now ubuntu says it's printing, but nothing ever goes to the printer.02:42
spyke581I have a box that id like to use as a HTPC but it has a displayport instead of HDMI. i cant figure out how to configure audio out over displayport since xubuntu isnt recognizng it as an option. Any help?02:43
waltmanI've tried restarting cups (sudo systemctl restart cups.service) but it didn't fix it. I've also tried unplugging and replugging the cable. Any other suggestions on how to reset it?02:43
obomaso... now i'm stuck on wifi. module is loaded, but the interface does not exist03:00
obomaits picked up in dmesg when i plug it in03:01
obomahttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=232531703:04
spyke581When i watch videos on any of my linux machines i often tearing in the picture. i dont have this issue on a windows machine running the same hardware. ive had this issue on every linux machine ive ever used, regardless of distro. does anyone know what is causing this?03:06
JoshuaDhey guys, I recently updated to 17.10. I am using xfce4. I locked my screen and walked away from the computer. About 20 minutes later I came back and the screen is all blue, and sometimes it switches to all red. I am able to get to a tty (which I am on). Any suggestions on debugging this?03:10
JoshuaDThis is the second time it happened. Last time I restarted and the computer came back up fine. This time I left it in the broken state to try to make things easier to figure out.03:10
SvetaHi JoshuaD.03:11
SvetaThis behavious is typical for the 'slock' screen locker.03:11
JoshuaDcan confirm slock is currently running.03:12
SvetaTo get back in, type your password in (this will make it turn blue) and hit Enter.03:12
SvetaYou may wish to switch from slock to an xfce screen locker that is less confusing. It probably is not installed simply.03:12
JoshuaDthat worked, thanks. Which screen locker would you recommend?03:13
SvetaI think xscreensaver provides neat locking that xfce users often use:03:14
Svetahttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BDdfMA_93iM/UQsasyE_4KI/AAAAAAAAGTs/s0Sgc8FfKNg/s1600/xscreensaver2.png03:14
Sveta'xscreensaver' is a package, I would hope installing it already is enough by itself.03:15
JoshuaDbrb switching to hexchat03:18
SvetaOk, welcome back. The package name is 'xscreensaver', by the way, in case you do not remember it from the discussion above.03:20
JoshuaDThnx. I'm gonna do a little digging and try to figure out the one I had previous to the upgrade. I liked that one03:20
JoshuaDI think it may have been light-locker03:20
JoshuaDSo a little while ago I switched from lightdm to sddm because lightdm was hanging on boot. Can I use light-locker with sddm?03:22
SvetaI don't think so.03:27
SvetaThe way "something-locker" works is it sends a signal to a running "something" and asks it to lock the screen.03:28
JoshuaDi see. So the dm and the locker come together as a pair03:28
SvetaThat is my interpretation.03:29
JoshuaDcool, really appreciate the help.03:30
SvetaWelcome.03:30
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atdprhshello everyone03:50
atdprhsI'm trying to configure bridge network03:51
atdprhsnot sure what went wrong03:51
atdprhsso I'm following this article on my localmachine03:51
atdprhshttps://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/create-kvm-pods-with-maas?_ga=2.122713161.317020200.1511341689-1131947244.1511341689#203:51
atdprhsand for some reason, when I restart03:51
atdprhsmy wifi adaptor doesn't work anymore03:51
buggedouttrying to bridge your router with the isp router?03:52
atdprhsthis is my bridge configuration buggedout03:52
atdprhsHave I done anything wrong in this script?03:53
atdprhsSo this is my config >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26047019/ VS https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/create-kvm-pods-with-maas?_ga=2.122713161.317020200.1511341689-1131947244.1511341689#2 >> after restart, wifi not working anymore, if you can help me find what I di wrong, would be very appreciated!03:54
buggedouti'd change the name server to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 googles public servers03:54
buggedoutthey always seem to be fastest for me anyway03:55
atdprhsI don't have nameservers defined and my wifi is meant to be automatic, additionally, when I say wifi not woking, I mean it doesn't even show wifis to connect in the first place03:56
buggedoutdid you restart network manager?03:56
buggedouthrrmm03:56
buggedoutoh03:56
buggedoutwhat brand is the router?03:56
atdprhsnetgear, but I cannot imagine that it would make a difference, as it's working if I removed the bridge settings03:57
atdprhsHere is the working version http://paste.ubuntu.com/26047050/03:58
buggedoutso.. your trying to bridge your netgear router to the router your isp gave you correct?03:59
pennTellerHi guys, I just installed ubuntu on a MacBookPro11,3. Does anybody know a way to install the wifi drivers via usb since I dont have access to an ethernet port?03:59
buggedoutif your trying to bridge it to a router from your isp..   you have to call them to have them setup a bridge on their end as well or it will not bridge04:01
buggedouti do h awve 12 beer in me tho.. so oi could be totally misunderstanding. the code yo u posted is making my head spin. lol04:02
kaosinepennTeller: can't go grab a usb to ethernet adapter?04:02
atdprhsthis default config doesn't break anything04:02
atdprhsThe interesting, I have approx 10 wifis around, I see none, so it's definitely something got to do with the bridging config04:02
atdprhsNo, I am trying to follow this article >> https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/create-kvm-pods-with-maas?_ga=2.122713161.317020200.1511341689-1131947244.1511341689#204:02
atdprhsafaik, I"m trying to bridge to virtual network04:02
atdprhshave you seen the article?04:02
pennTellerkaosine, not really.. Ideally I could boot into mac os download the driver into a USB, boot ubuntu 16.04 and install the driver. But I dont know where to find them or if they are installabe via USB04:04
kaosinepennTeller: well there is this and there is a zip linked in teh accepted answer too so I guess you could try it...not sure if it's for the same one though if apple does change them up between versions of laptops04:06
buggedouthrrmm yeah that might be a bit over my head atm.. i thought you were trying to bridge 2 routers..04:06
kaosinehttps://askubuntu.com/questions/470153/no-wireless-when-install-14-04-on-macbook-pro04:06
kaosine(forgot to paste the link XD)04:06
pennTellerkaosine, thank you :)04:06
buggedoutyour trying to bridge 2 nic cards one inside and one outside the network?04:06
buggedoutor that's what im seeing from that article04:07
atdprhs1 real nic and one virtual nic04:11
atdprhsthe birdge is for linking both of them04:11
atdprhsI've done something, i'll try to reboot and see if it works04:11
atdprhsbrb04:11
atdprhsbuggedout: please see the next 2 steps04:19
atdprhsit still dind't work with me04:19
lotuspsychjeatdprhs: there is also ##networking if you like04:29
atdprhsthanks lotuspsychje04:33
lotuspsychjeatdprhs: those guys know alot about networking04:33
atdprhslotuspsychje, yes, I'm there and talking to them, didn't know about this channel, thanks a lot for pointing it out!!04:37
lotuspsychjeatdprhs: no prob mate04:40
KanePRI'd like to see recent bookmarks of 50.04:51
KanePRCan I see recent bookmarks of 50?04:52
KanePRNow I have to painstakingly go through my bookmarks one by one.04:52
KanePRThat has to be a better way.04:52
lotuspsychjeKanePR: firefox? make category folders?04:56
KanePRI installed Sort Bookmarks and now I found what I wanted. Excellent!04:58
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JoshuaDOn Ubuntu 17.10. Tried switching my dm to lightdm. Computer stops booting sometime during systemd. I have the plymouth screen on display still moving, but nothing else. I cannot get to any TTYs, they don't seem to be established yet. This has happened before (on 16.10) and I was able to work around it by going into recovery mode and choosing a different DM and uninstalling lightdm.  Is there something else I can do to figure out why05:40
JoshuaDthings hang? I would like to use LightDM. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling it, but that didn't work.  Are there config files somewhere I can try reseting to defaults, maybe?05:40
pennTellerHi guys does anybody know a way to set "palm rejection" or "thumb rejection" for a trackpad on a MacBook pro?06:04
JoshuaDFYI: I fixed that by removing /etc/lightdm. The defaults kicked in and lightdm is working.06:10
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GhostwalkGamesAre there any huge differences between Ubuntu with KDE and Kubuntu08:53
GhostwalkGamesIf you have KDE desktop on both08:53
GhostwalkGamesFor 16.04 for example08:53
alkisgGhostwalkGames: ideally, no differences. In practise you might get some service from ubuntu running under kde, wasting ram etc08:58
GhostwalkGamesOkay thanks09:02
LeMike_Hello. Is it possible to open a new window in a screen and execute a command in it? Within a screen, I want to execute a script, that opens several windows each with a ssh connection to my servers.09:28
Neo3Hi! Who know what is this the language is it bash? https://pastebin.com/0xxWELmZ09:36
Neo3this code translate selected text09:36
Neo3http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1511689128.png09:39
Neo3not bad? a few row of code creates the translator09:39
LeMike_Well, it combines a wget with several other things (mostly sed).09:39
Neo3LeMike_: somebody who did it might be know it09:40
LeMike_wget asks google to translate, sed parses the answer, notify-send shows it in your desktop09:40
Neo3yes you guessed, it is09:40
Neo3it's bad of course translator, in windows I have better abbyy lingua x609:41
LeMike_oh boy, you said the bad word.09:42
Neo3this translator able translate text from video, I hove mouse under subtitle and get translation and can copy to file for learn by then09:42
Neo3LeMike_: what is bad words?09:42
LeMike_Windows09:42
Neo3LeMike_: oh :)09:43
Neo3LeMike_: I have both09:43
Neo3LeMike_: Trying customize now ubuntu, if manage it I'll will use it as main OS, On windows I have all main apps that I like to use09:44
Neo3skype, wabmoney, good translator ( books in English I'll read in windows )09:44
Neo3LeMike_: hey code like that is call Bash scripting or shall programming?09:45
Neo3this is shell programming?09:46
GhostwalkGamesBash is a shell09:47
GhostwalkGamesSo a bash script is a shell script :-)09:47
GhostwalkGamesRoughly speaking09:47
Neo3ok09:47
Neo3GhostwalkGames: and that script above is shell code?09:48
GhostwalkGamesYeh bash shell script09:48
Neo3good, Seems it is powerful thing, You can make translator using shell, I didn't think it before...09:49
GhostwalkGamesBash can do a lot of things that Python or other languages can. It's not perfect but it's very powerful09:50
ducasseNeo3: the shell is a very powerful and efficient tool, which is why we've been telling you to learn how to use it instead of relying on guis and web panels09:55
Neo3I'll do09:56
BluesKajHiyas all09:59
Neo3ducasse: see how it works, pretty cool http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1511690387.png10:01
Neo3of course abbyy lingua x6 is better, but nevertheless it's better than nothing, I know enough words and can read without translator in multiple cases...10:03
ducassethere's also ubuntu channels in other languages, you know10:04
ducasse!ru10:04
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.10:04
Neo3there are little people10:06
Neo3ducasse: I want to learn English, speaking here I'm doing two things simultaneously. Kill two birds with one stone!10:08
Neo3:)10:08
b100shi2all!10:09
b100swhat differnece between `3.8.7-1ubuntu1.1` and `3.8.7-1ubuntu1` how should i understand it ?10:09
BluesKajfewer people Neo3, little means the people are small in size10:09
Neo3BluesKaj: seems small means small in size, little means about amount?10:10
BluesKajnot amount, a midget is a little person10:11
yommActually imho 'there are little people' would be correct in the sense : there are not many people10:12
BluesKajfewer =quantity10:12
yomm*also10:12
Neo3it's countable few10:13
BluesKajyomm, nope10:13
Neo3yes I mean there few people10:13
Neo3BluesKaj: I always use it, there are little people, it means little number of humans10:13
yommlike: there is little interest in the subject10:13
BluesKajNeo3, that's wrong in english10:14
Neo3BluesKaj: little use with uncountable noun, few with countable, people probably is uncountable noun10:14
lotuspsychjemove on to real support issues?10:14
bazhangNeo3, ubuntu support issues?10:15
ducassemaybe this discussion can go to ##English...10:15
BluesKajuncountable yes , so fewer means countable10:15
Neo3BluesKaj: google translator translated a few people10:15
bazhangNeo3, lets get back to ubuntu support please10:16
Neo3ok10:16
BluesKajyou won't learn english using a translator10:16
BluesKajthey are unrelaiable10:16
MrM4DCan someone please help me to enable the bluetooth device of the rtl8822BE chip on ubuntu 16.04 with 4.14.2 kernel? :)10:30
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic xenial10:31
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.101.106 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB10:31
lotuspsychjeMrM4D: lsb_release -a plz for . version?10:32
ducasseMrM4D: is that a mainline kernel, or where's it from?10:33
MrM4Dmainline from the .deb ifles10:39
MrM4Dlotuspsychje, lsb_release -a -> https://pastebin.com/SxraT89j10:40
MrM4Dducasse, uname -r -> 4.14.2-041402-lowlatency10:41
ducassedoes it work with the official kernel?10:41
MrM4Dno, they added support for thsi chipset just on 4.1410:41
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MrM4Dit works on windows...10:42
MrM4D(No pun intentend)10:42
ducassethe mainline kernels might not be built with support for it - they're only intended for testing and are totally unsupported10:43
MrM4Daha, ok. So nothing can be done?10:43
kgbmehey what's the lowlatency by the way10:44
MrM4DI'm asking because one of the features stated on this kernel is support of the rtl8822be wireless. And digging into the kernel's source i saw it loads firmware for the bluetooth part of it10:45
ducasseMrM4D: look at the config-* file for your kernel in /boot, see what it says for that build option10:45
ducassekgbme: exactly what it sounds like :)10:46
ducassekgbme: some users think it improves responsiveness etc for desktops10:47
MrM4Dducasse, only this line for 8822 keyword: CONFIG_R8822BE=m10:47
MrM4Dunder "FIR device drivers"10:49
MrM4Dnothing on bluetooth :/10:49
ducasseso it builds itt as a module, i don't know if bt support is included in that10:49
MrM4Dhttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2364383&page=2&p=13666968#post1366696810:50
MrM4Dsomeone managed to load the bt firmware ^^10:51
MrJonesmy crontab -e doesn't run, what can I do about it?10:59
MrJonesthe syslog has mentions for various cron scripts but not any @daily entries apart from popularity-contest, which leads me to believe the crontab of the root user isn't even read11:00
MrJonesdoes crontab -e work out of the box for root?11:00
lotuspsychje!cron | MrJones11:10
ubottuMrJones: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto11:10
aykuthey guys11:15
aykutjust installed the 17.10 server on netbook and got this11:15
aykuthttps://image.prntscr.com/image/eBoA2NehTeOMwddwyNjDqg.png11:15
aykutideas ?11:15
aykutbtw vertical ş11:16
aykutvertical lines are hardware problem11:16
fribhi, all of a sudden today firefox is not displaying pages correctly. is there a bug?11:18
Richard_CavellHi everyone. I'm on Ubuntu 16.10 and I'm trying to understand something in the man page of the tac command. Is this the best channel?11:18
lotuspsychjeRichard_Cavell: 16.10 is end of life mate11:19
Richard_Cavelloh sorry I meant 16.0411:19
lotuspsychjeaykut: try desktop or nomodeset?11:19
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | aykut11:20
ubottuaykut: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter11:20
lotuspsychjefrib: what happens exactly?11:20
lotuspsychjeRichard_Cavell: best way to get an issue solved, is to ask your specific question to the channel11:21
friblotuspsychje, search boxes don't display typing text and youtube videos show only the thumbnails, no titles, lots of text missing from page, css seemingly all messed up11:21
lotuspsychjefrib: ubuntu version, firefox version?11:21
friblotuspsychje, xenial 16.04.3 LTS, firefox 57.011:22
Richard_Cavelllotuspsychje: I want to understand the -s option to the tac command.11:23
aykutlotuspsychje, thanks worked11:23
lotuspsychjeaykut: your welcome11:24
lotuspsychjefrib: tested other browsers?11:24
friblotuspsychje, yes chrome works fine11:25
lotuspsychjefrib: so must be FF and not graphics hmm11:25
EriC^^Richard_Cavell: it says use separator instead of newline11:25
lotuspsychjefrib: tried FF in the guest account or new profile?11:25
atomohow's to get drivers working on kubuntu? im trying without successfull11:26
atomoit ok now thanks11:26
lotuspsychje!yay | atomo11:26
ubottuatomo: Glad you made it! :-)11:26
EriC^^Richard_Cavell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26049033/11:29
EriC^^Richard_Cavell: the separator is what determines where it uses (in reverse order) something to be displayed first11:29
friblotuspsychje, not yet11:31
tarelerulzThe only way I can boot now is if select ubuntu from the bios11:34
atdprhsguys, is it possible to limit unity from display opened apps in other workspaces?11:34
EriC^^!info wmctrl | atdprhs11:35
ubottuatdprhs: wmctrl (source: wmctrl): control an EWMH/NetWM compatible X Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.07-7 (artful), package size 20 kB, installed size 78 kB11:35
Richard_CavellEriC^^: Okay11:37
Richard_CavellIt doesn't work the way I thought it might11:37
EriC^^Richard_Cavell: what did you want it to do?11:38
tarelerulzWhen I let my computer boot it comes to a grub menu that  has Debain and Fedora.  I have no idea where that file is that tells that11:38
Richard_CavellEriC^^: https://ideone.com/WdnMOc11:39
BluesKajtarelerulz, have you run sudo update-grub in debian or fedora?11:39
EriC^^Richard_Cavell: odd, i'd expect it to create newlines, try | tac -s "."11:40
atdprhsthanks EriC^^ , i'm researching on how to use it now11:41
EriC^^Richard_Cavell: oh, i think it just does the separation for each individual line11:41
EriC^^Richard_Cavell: ultimately what are you trying to achieve?11:42
atdprhsEriC^^, I am looking at it's usage https://linux.die.net/man/1/wmctrl , not sure if it can really do what I need?11:47
EriC^^atdprhs: try this instead http://www.webupd8.org/2010/08/how-to-make-application-always-open-on.html11:48
Richard_CavellEriC^^: I'm just going through man pages of various commands, trying to make sure I understand usage of basic commands11:58
EriC^^Richard_Cavell: ah cool, i recommend http://www.tldp.org/LDP/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary/GNU-Linux-Tools-Summary.pdf if you've not read it already, it gives a good base on the essentials11:59
atdprhsEriC^^, I installed the app12:04
atdprhscouldn't find what I needed, as from the link you provided >> "To make an application always open on a workspace (viewport)", this is opposite to what I want to do12:05
atdprhsI want to limit visible windows to current workspaces only12:05
EriC^^atdprhs: you mean the icons?12:06
atdprhsi.e, if I have A running workspace 1, and B running on Workspace 2, in my unity bar on the left, I want to only see A as I am on Workspace 112:06
EriC^^oh12:06
atdprhsAnd B to be hidden12:06
atdprhstill I switch to the second workspace12:06
EriC^^i dont think that's possible12:06
atdprhshmm12:07
atdprhsokay, thx EriC^^12:07
scootergrisenWhere can i ask about translations and launchpad if no answer on #ubuntu-translators12:10
nbusroneMay I know how do I check which application I had install ubuntu OS from live cd ?12:19
BluesKajthe ubuntu installer is called Ubiquity if that's what you're asking, nbusrone12:21
nbusroneBluesKaj : I mean , ubuntu is install on sda3 but I booted with live cd but wanted to list out application & lib install on sda3 ubuntu OS rather than booting on the OS.12:25
nbusroneBluesKaj : something similar with dpkg -l12:26
theafricanp3nguiMorning folks12:29
theafricanp3nguiI have 17.10 amd64 installed on a system with a hybrid display (intel and nvidia)12:30
theafricanp3nguieverything works ok12:30
BluesKajnbusrone, you have to boot into or ssh into the ubuntu OS to list the installed packages/libs etc12:32
theafricanp3nguiI have currently dock the laptop as my workstation by connecting it to two external monitors via VGA and HDMI port whilst the laptop/notebook lid is closed12:33
nbusroneBluesKaj : there is no other way to find out through a live cd booting ?12:33
theafricanp3nguiNow the issue is any video chat application installed (e.g. Google hangout or meeting) cannot share a specific monitor12:33
theafricanp3nguishare the screen during video conference either gives the option to share a particular application window or the entire desktop which combines the two monitors and makes viewing very small12:35
BluesKajnbusrone, there might be a method , but I don't know what it could be12:35
theafricanp3nguiHas anybody been able to get sharing a single monitor in a dual or more monitor setup12:36
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BluesKajnbusrone, in my experience an OS must be running in order to list it's libs or packages etc12:46
yomm /join #gdm13:06
scootergrisenWhere does xubuntu gets its translated strings from if not from /usr/share/applications/gnome.sudoku.desktop? I see translated strings in the fil but in the menu i see the english strings13:14
xstreunerHi everyone. I have a problem (I'm on Kubuntu 17.10) with akonadi_control: immediatly after I do the login appears a windows saying that the app crashed http://paste.ubuntu.com/26049644/13:32
Neo3I create virtual hosts on apache expemple.com and test.com13:58
Neo3and put there ip 111.111.111.11113:58
Neo3this is screen http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1511704603.png13:58
Neo3In browser type expemple.com and can't access the site13:58
Neo3What is wrong here?13:58
EriC^^everything13:59
Neo3Seems url should be 127.0.0.1, but on this guide whote 111.111.111.11113:59
Neo3https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-apache-virtual-hosts-on-ubuntu-16-0413:59
Neo3EriC^^: read that guide, there wrote ip 111.111.111.111, why not 127.0.0.1?14:00
Neo3and I can't change apache files from desctop, file is accessible only for reading14:01
ducasse!permissions | Neo3 read this14:02
ubottuNeo3 read this: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions14:02
Neo3ducasse: see http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1511705042.png14:04
Neo3I need to run file manager with admin permission for edit files14:05
Neo3what is here happens?14:11
Neo3We're installing app that will open noutilus as administrator?14:11
Neo3http://www.noobslab.com/2017/04/open-as-rootadministrator-add-powerful.html14:11
atdprhsGuys, it's not possible to hibernate with Secure Boot enabled?14:13
LyzardKingHi! I have an issue with the launchpad build. It was supposed to finish in 10 minutes, but it's been three hours...14:15
ducasseatdprhs: https://askubuntu.com/questions/764437/can-not-make-hibernate-on-uefi-secure-boot#77570714:16
LyzardKingIs the delay only because of the build score? The time goes from 11 to 9 minutes, then back to 1114:16
ducasseLyzardKing: try #launchpad14:17
EriC^^atdprhs: sure it is14:18
Neo3I need fast seen path to some files, how to do it? file test.com.conf doesn't work14:18
atdprhsalright, thanks guys14:20
atdprhsEnjoy your day/night14:20
darkdragon-001I want to contribute to apt-btrfs-snapshot. How do I do this?14:20
LyzardKingducasse: I tried to ask the same question there, thanks!14:23
LyzardKingNo answer atm...The repo build is now at 15 minutes14:29
ducassedarkdragon-001: 'apt show apt-btrfs-snapshot', see who the maintainer is and contact them14:38
AvidWolf43hi14:41
darkdragon-001ducasse: what's usually the best way to do so? email?14:50
ducassedarkdragon-001: probably, at least in this case.14:55
pinkisntwellwhat's the connection between /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf?15:16
pinkisntwellI see that /etc/network/interfaces has one nameserver for each interface but /etc/resolv.conf does not mention interfaces15:17
soul-lessHi. I'm using XUbuntu 16.04 at work. We'll soon upgrade our computers and that's a nice timing to switch our linux distro. I've installed Ubuntu 17.10 on a virtual machine at home for the sake of testing. I'm happy at the moment if it weren't for some window behavior. It seems I'm not able to maximize/minimize some window (the options are grayed out). Do I have to expect such kind of misbehavior to disappear in the next15:19
soul-lessfollowing months ?15:19
Neo3dpkg and apt and apt-get is equal? We can use everything?15:21
Neo3we can use every?15:21
soul-lessNeo3, apt and apt-get are the same executable. dpkg is not.15:21
Neo3if I load file with .deb I should run it use dpkg?15:22
soul-lessYes15:22
Neo3well15:22
soul-lessWell, I suppose so as .deb stand as 'debian' and dpkg is debian package manager. Maybe apt can do it too as it's an higher level package manager.15:23
soul-lessI'd advice to try apt first and then dpkg in case of no success.15:23
Neo3it do only with errors, can't find something15:23
leftyfbsoul-less: apt and apt-get are not the same executable but are part of the same package15:23
Neo3better for .deb use dpkg15:24
Neo3for .deb packages15:24
joe_alfHi, I have problem with swapfile for latest Ubuntu 17.10 with encrypted home folder. Command "swapon --all --verbose" shows error http://paste.ubuntu.com/26050481/15:25
Neo3I've managed to install teamviewer15:26
joe_alfBut /swapfile exist15:26
soul-lessleftyfb, to be correct apt is a package containing most commonly used apt-get & apt-cache commands. So when you do `apt install` or `apt-get install`, there won't be a single difference (feature speaking).15:27
leftyfbincorrect15:27
skinux_I need some help. I've been trying to be able to connect to a Windows share using Ubuntu, so far with no luck.15:28
soul-lessWell, teach me because I just read something to confirm that.15:28
leftyfbapt and apt-get are different binaries and will do things slightly differently. The end result is the same, the package gets installed. But They are different applications used to achieve the same goal.15:28
leftyfbapt is the package which contains apt-get, apt-cache and the newer apt binary which is the successor to apt-get.15:29
leftyfbthough of course those aren't the only binaries/files the apt package contains15:30
soul-lessWell, I'll agree to that, that doesn't change much to what I understood prior this conversation; it's more correct, all the better.15:30
soul-lessBack to Neo3, is your problem solved ?15:31
leftyfbsoul-less: I guess the take-away here is, apt is a binary that is part of the apt package and the successor to the apt-get binary.15:31
Gaming4JCskinux_: https://www.linux.com/blog/mounting-windows-share-ubuntu-1404  -- let us know where you get stuck at.15:32
Neo3soul-less: yes, I was installing teamviewer, there .deb15:32
Neo3and there I noticed differ pathes, / and ~/15:32
Neo3in terminal15:32
soul-lessOh yeah, these are not the same path at all indeed.15:33
leftyfbNeo3: after using dpkg to install the teamviewer .deb package, you'll need to run: sudo apt-get install -f15:33
Neo3sudo apt-get install -f -y15:33
Neo3there was with -y too15:33
Neo3-f means install lack file15:33
leftyfbsure, though be careful with that. -y means answer yes to ANY changes it's going to do.15:34
joe_alfOutput of /etc/crypttab -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26050534/ points to /target/swapfile which does not exist then I tried to edit /etc/crypttab and replace /target/swapfile with /swapfile but after reboot I got swap which is active but ignore. How can I fix my swapfile?15:34
soul-lessIsn't the OS able to handle .dev packages without user typing commands ? I'm pretty sure I installed .dev packages by double clicking them.15:34
Neo3I won't remember all this15:34
soul-less.deb*15:34
ducasseNeo3: for .deb packages use 'sudo apt install /path/to/package.deb' to handle dependencies  automatically15:34
leftyfb-f means fix your packaging which usually means install dependencies or remove broken packages15:34
Neo3ducasse: ok15:35
leftyfbsoul-less: referring to .deb files, not .dev, yes. Doubleclicking them will attempt to install them. But it's preferred to use the terminal to make sure everything goes well.15:35
leftyfbducasse: did not know that15:35
ducasseleftyfb: one of the differences between apt and apt-get, like you mentioned above :)15:36
leftyfbducasse: and does apt support that functionality yet?15:36
Neo3and all linux has their own repositories? Seems apt rep is differ than dkkg...15:36
soul-lessleftyfb, well I'm not fond of advising lambda users to type commands, I want them to feel the OS as user friendly as possible. But I guess not lambda user is present on this irc channel.15:37
Neo3or rep is common for all OS?15:37
ducasseleftyfb: at least in 17.04+, i think 16.04 as well15:37
Neo3probably it's common, because load app to each repository take much time15:38
ducasseNeo3: dpkg does not handle repositories, that's the job of apt. and other distributions use their own repos.15:39
Neo3ducasse: it's package manager15:41
Neo3https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/dpkg.html15:41
ducasseNeo3: yes, i know what dpkg is15:42
Neo3cannot automatically install packages and dependences15:42
skinux_What is it called when you create an installable ISO of a system, including not only the OS system, but all software and files (including doc/share files)?15:42
Gaming4JCskinux_: recoverable backup?15:43
funkstertrying to replace a new line with: cat test | sed -e 's/\n/test123/' that doesn't work but if i type the same in vi, it does work. seems it cant find the newline. what do I need to do differently?15:44
Kanovi have xubuntu installed on some computer of mine which is of the version 16.04.2, i haven't updated it since a very long time, maybe even since a year. should i just type in "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to perform the upgrade?15:45
Kanovhas anything of a profound nature happened since i last updated, which would require me to do something else also15:45
Gaming4JCfunkster: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1251999/how-can-i-replace-a-newline-n-using-sed15:46
ducasseKanov: that should work. you will get the latest hwe stack, newer kernel and x11 (plus all other updates)15:46
Neo3sudo apt-get update not always work, try both apt update than apt-get update and upgrade too15:46
soul-lessfunkster vi doesn't use the same regex flavour as sed.15:46
Neo3with me not always update work, Sometimes it starts work after apt upgrade or apt update15:47
funkstersoul-less: gotcha.. any suggested method?15:47
Kanovducasse: OK so I guess the only command I'd need is "apt dist-upgrade" for this. i was a bit worried since it's been a long time since i last updated15:47
funksterneed to do the equivalent of s/\n/[A-Z][A-Z]/ on a file.15:48
BluesKajskinux_, systemback is one15:48
ducasseKanov: either 'apt dist-upgrade' or 'apt full-upgrade' - they're aliases (but the latter more appropriately named, imo)15:49
soul-lessfunkset: what's your goal ? I wouldn't use vi to change newline characters from inside (it interprets such characters !).15:49
funkstersoul-less: that is my goal, i need to do equivalent of:  sed -e 's/\n/test123/'15:50
funkstersoul-less: actually..  s/\n/[A-Z][A-Z]/15:50
ducasseNeo3: if apt-get update doesn't work that suggests a problem on your end15:50
Neo3ducasse: if it doesn't, I do apt update, if it also doesn't I do apt get upgrade, and then do apt-get update and all work good15:51
soul-lessfunkset: Is your goal to do it with the editor or to modify the file ? (You could use -i option of sed to modify the file, or use a dedicated tool such as the command `tr`)15:51
skinux_Routers provide the benefits of NEtwork Intrusion Detection Systems built-in, right? So, an IDS software installed on a WLAN computer is just an added benefit?15:52
scootergrisenCan i get help for xubuntu here also?15:52
Neo3ducasse: it's have problem from I installed it, Grub doesn't work correct, sometimes it lost focus and I arrows don't work15:52
funkstersoul-less: the sed command doesn't work.. that's why i'm here.15:52
soul-lessfunkster: I just tested with vim and it seems to work correct :%s,\n,test123,g15:53
Neo3ducasse: and when I installed I couldn't install any app from ubuntu software center, had deleted it and then all started work well15:53
Neo3I reinstalled15:53
funkstersoul-less: did you read my message? i said it works in vim but not with sed command.15:53
Neo3ducasse: seems I installed broken ubuntu from start, I put it on USB flash that had files...15:54
soul-lessfunkster I didn't read correctly, my bad.15:55
ducasseskinux_: a router does not necessarily have ids built-in, but this is more a question for ##networking or ##security15:55
funkstersoul-less: no prob, yes any soultion where i can use sed would be perfect or another command.15:55
Neo3but its doesn't mater were there files or not if there were files with equal names they all were overwrited and it couldn't influent on installation15:56
soul-lessfunkster so you want to replace the newline character with an arbitrary string using a command ?15:57
funksteryes15:57
funksters/[A-Z][A-Z]/\n/15:58
funksteralong those lines15:58
soul-lesssed ':a;N;$!ba;s/\n/replacementstring/g' file16:00
soul-lesshttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/1251999/how-can-i-replace-a-newline-n-using-sed16:00
soul-lessIf you want to do something more complex, I'd suggest using an awk script.16:01
funksterwhat does it :a;N;$!ba; part mean?16:02
zteamHi! I just bought a 4K TV yesterday, is there any way to clone your mainscreen (1920 x 1080P) to my 4K TV with 4096 x 2160P?16:03
saitoh183hi16:04
zteamI don't like extended screen too much :-/16:05
saitoh183where are all the possible locations for systemd to save service files? because i have a service that launches under 3 different user each time it boots and i cant seem to find it16:05
BluesKajzteam, cloning won't show in the reolution your 4k is capable of16:05
BluesKajresolution16:06
zteamBluesKaj, exactly, but what to do instead?16:06
BluesKajfind a source that is recorded or braodcast in 4k/ 4096 x 216016:07
ducassezteam: you can either display 1080p on your tv or use extended mode16:08
BluesKajthere's nopoint trying upscale 1920x1080 , it'll still be 1920x108 your 4k16:08
BluesKajon your 4k16:08
zteamBluesKaj, okey, thanks16:14
ducassezteam: which desktop are you using?16:14
zteamducasse, Gnome 316:14
ducassezteam: then be aware that according to the gnome devs, gnome 3 is neither tested on or developed for multi-monitor setups. you might be happier with something different.16:15
soul-lessducasse: Really ? That's a big let down !16:16
zteamducasse, okey, it worked quite well with my old TV, but that one was set to mirror my primary screen16:17
ducassesoul-less: but pretty typical of them :)16:17
soul-lessducasse: Well, we're using triple screen at work (2 stand alone monitors + laptop) with XUbuntu and I must say the multi screen support is awful. I'd be surprise if gnome 3 is worst.16:18
akikquite amazing to hear about the multi monitor setups. like they wouldn't want to target the professional setting16:20
zteamIs there any easy way to make gdm use my primary screen (selected as regular user in gnome screen settings), right now it shows gdm on my TV)16:20
ducassesoul-less: i have three screens myself (desktop), and i use i3 much since it handles them better than anything else i've tried.16:20
zteambrb16:21
BluesKajzteam needs a gpu capable of 4k output16:23
alkisgzteam: here's a xorg.conf that selects a primary monitor (so that gdm will show to the correct one), and sets the preferred mode for another monitor (so that your 4k TV is automatically a 1920x1080 clone of your main monitor): http://paste.debian.net/997692/16:24
alkisgYou don't need to configure the DE then (if you're using xorg and not wayland, that is...)16:24
BluesKajalkisg, save your breath, he left16:24
cristian_calkisg: about grub error messages, I don't know if I should reinstall grub or crrate a new /boot16:25
alkisgBluesKaj: he said brb and he's here now16:25
BluesKajok, did n't show him join here16:25
alkisgcristian_c: about the tablet? well, first of all I don't know why you need a separate boot at all...16:25
zteamalkisg, thanks, but I would like it in 4K, but I guess just need to change the resolution to 4K there right?16:26
soul-lessducasse: never thought of searching a software to handle the multi screen. I'm stupid. My main problem is that we often move with the laptop to have meeting, thus disconnecting the standalone displays and when connecting the laptop back after the meeting, the configuration is never right. I tried scripting something with xrandr but the script broke for I don't know what reason.16:26
alkisgzteam: no, clone doesn't work with different resolutions, it's extended monitor then16:26
alkisgzteam: if you want extended monitor, you can only use the "primary" section of the xorg.conf that I sent16:27
cristian_calkisg: I've not found issues during boot separating partitions16:28
zteamokey, thanks,, quite hard to belive the gnome devs overlooked that as a graphical option :-)16:28
alkisggnome isn't related, that's plain xorg16:28
zteamis there any reason why wayland is disabled on the Nvidia driver btw?16:29
alkisgIt's possible to use 0.5 scale in xrandr to use different resolutions, but it's rarely used, I don't know how many applications will have issues with that16:29
zteamalkisg, yeah, but thet should provide a GUI to set the primary screen with :-)16:30
alkisgcristian_c: you just found an issue, your grub.cfg has 2 uuids there, your /boot and your /. Something went wrong in either automatically or manually updating it.16:30
alkisgzteam: afaik they do, it's the display settings dialog, and they have a button "apply globally" there16:30
cristian_calkisg: I talk about before backuppig it16:30
cristian_c*backupping16:30
alkisgcristian_c: sure, I get it. No benefit though.16:31
cristian_cbackup/restore16:31
alkisgzteam: although I don't know if it works with wayland or in recent ubuntu versions etc, I'm using mate nowadays.16:31
cristian_calkisg: strange thing: system works when in chroot16:31
alkisgEh, chroots don't boot with grub, so that statement doesn't really make sense16:32
cristian_cand if I can manually make grub menu appearing by grub shell, I could think boot is damaged, or grub.cfg or some fikes16:32
cristian_cfiles16:32
cristian_cbut I'm not sure16:33
alkisgcristian_c: did you manage to boot it with configfile etc?16:33
cristian_calkisg: as said yesterday, configfile inrub shell from live system is allowing to show grub menu16:34
zteamalkisg, I sure can't see any such button :-)16:34
hsiktasin nginx with multiple subdomains, where should I put my document root for each subdomain? still in /var/www/html/ ?16:34
hsiktasor is there an other best practice?16:34
cristian_cbut if i enable the 'ubuntu' entry, those error messages appear16:34
alkisgzteam: I have it in ubuntu mate 16.04.316:35
alkisg[Apply system-wide]16:35
cristian_cabout missing grubenv, missing xzio module,, etc.....16:35
alkisgcristian_c: don't you have a backup'ed, good version of grub.cfg to use?16:36
cristian_calkisg: no, I did a bacup of /boot partition by macrium reflects, and I restored that partition by the same16:37
zteamalkisg, if mate is using the gnome screen settins from gnome2 it's "updated" in gnome 316:38
alkisgzteam: maybe... or maybe ubuntu removed that button back when they were using lightdm, no idea, haven't been monitoring gnome 316:38
cristian_calkisg: if the issue is related to damaged boot partition (or files included inside it), I could crrate a new boot partotion16:39
zteamcristian_c, not sure what problem you are having, but since it seems to grub related have you tried boot-repair that utility has been fixing my grub2 issues, with a single click16:40
cristian_cif the issue is related to damaged grub, I cpul reinstall grub into efi partition16:40
cristian_czteam: uhm , I don't know if it's a grub problem side. in past , I've rest0red grub (after windows 10 installation) using chroot way in live system16:41
cristian_cbut after I upgraded from 17.04 to 17.10, I've lost bash history in my home directory16:42
Neo3what is this Nginx?16:42
Neo3it's like apache web server?16:42
cristian_c!info nginx16:43
ubottunginx (source: nginx): small, powerful, scalable web/proxy server. In component main, is optional. Version 1.12.1-0ubuntu2 (artful), package size 3 kB, installed size 40 kB16:43
Neo3I thought it is OS as ubunty16:43
Neo3!info apache16:43
ubottuPackage apache does not exist in artful16:43
zteamcristian_c, bash history has nothing to do with grub (unless you are trying to replay a command to restore grub)16:43
Neo3Why need Nginx? I saw it on some sites when did analyze16:44
cristian_czteam: you0re right, live system doesn't store terminal commands, obvipusly16:44
Neo3passed, it is broad theme16:45
cristian_c!unfo apache216:46
Neo3!info apache216:46
ubottuapache2 (source: apache2): Apache HTTP Server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.27-2ubuntu3 (artful), package size 93 kB, installed size 517 kB16:46
zteamcristian_c, not unless you made your usb stick persistent nope16:46
cristian_cyeah, sorry16:46
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cristian_czteam: bot repair could fix a damaged grub, but it couldn't fix a damaged boot (with grub.cfg)16:47
cristian_c*boot16:47
cristian_c*boot partition16:47
edisonbulbGnome-software as packaged in the newer ubuntu distros is highly incomplete and buggy16:48
Neo3node.js, nginx, apache, all of this is web servers and probably almost equal...16:48
Neo3!info node.js16:48
ubottunode-json-stringify-safe (source: node-json-stringify-safe): JSON.stringify with circular references module for Node.js. In component universe, is extra. Version 5.0.0-1 (artful), package size 3 kB, installed size 40 kB16:48
zteamcristian_c, if the partition is faulty try to fix it with fsck16:49
cristian_czteam: if it's faulty, it cpuld be a configuration issue16:50
cristian_cfsck repairs just sector and data16:50
cristian_c*sectors16:50
cristian_czteam: I'd like to crrate a new partition16:51
cristian_c*create16:51
edisonbulbon a more constructive note, have the makers of Ubuntu ever thought of including a full-featured GUI package manager frontend such as Synaptic into the default install? (note that Synaptic is not working with 17.10 on Mir)16:51
zteamcristian_c, okey, easiest way to do that would be to using gparted16:52
cristian_czteam: yeah, but if I create, it's empty16:52
cristian_cand not full of needed stuff in order to boot after grub16:52
cristian_cbios/efi gives control to grub -> grub gives control to /boot directory (kernels) -> real boot of ubuntu happens loading stuff in filesystem16:54
zteamcristian_c, try sudo install-grub /dev/sda1 after creating it (replacing /dev/sda1 with the correct partion of course, also maake sure to mark the partion with with bootable-flag in Gparted16:55
zteamedisonbulb, you could use aptitiude, althought it doesn't provide a real GUI, it's very useful16:56
cristian_czteam: I tried apt install --reinstall grub some days ago, it's installed in efi fat partition16:56
cristian_c*to16:57
edisonbulbzteam: aptitude is nice16:57
cristian_c*apt install --reinatall efi-grub16:57
edisonbulbOh wow, while looking for synaptic I found one called Lubuntu Software Center and it's really good after you enable expert mode on it :)16:59
edisonbulb*synaptic alternatives (bc of the bug)17:00
zteamcristian_c, naah.... you should try sudo install-grub (apt will only install the package for grub not the bootloader for it, since it doesn't now which device to install it to=17:00
cristian_czteam: I've not tried grub-install command yet. Unfortunately, it has several parameters, as i.e. --boot-directory, --efi-directory, --bootloader-id, .....17:01
cristian_cbootloader-id should be the label shown in bios-efi, I suppose17:02
cristian_cwhen I tried that command many months ago, I tried a suchlike command, but I've lost my commands history17:03
cristian_cso, I don't remember exactly what parameters are needed i order to make the trick17:04
zteamcristian_c, my bad, try grub-install /dev/sda117:04
cristian_czteam: sorry, I cpuld try to use it specifying efi fat partition, I've not tried yet17:04
cristian_cbut if the issue was related to boot partition insteadmof grub, it may not fix the faulty boot17:05
cristian_canother idea is just using boot repair, but it's always related to grub issues17:06
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zteamcristian_c, I thought you did already tried boot-repair ?17:07
cristian_cno, in past I preferred chroot grub restore way17:08
cristian_cusually, boot repair mskes a lot of garbage into efi17:08
cristian_cand ofter it doesn't work17:08
cristian_c*often17:08
edisonbulbas a last resort you could always cp your home directory to an external drive and do a clean install17:09
zteamwell, I believe boot-repair can make a backup of the files it changes too17:09
cristian_cedisonbulb: ok, but system configuration is spreaded into entire filesystem17:10
cristian_cso, I'd loose configuration created since 17.0417:10
edisonbulbcristian_c, good point :)17:10
Necrosporusis it possible to copy files from one NTFS volume to another saving all permission, alternative streams and security context, from under GNU/Linux?17:10
cristian_cedisonbulb: and I noticed system is working if I chroot from s live system17:10
edisonbulbthat is a good sign17:11
cristian_cedisonbulb: I'd be happy to reset anything, but a good idea cpuld be reset just my separate /boot partition17:11
cristian_cbut I don't know how to create a new one17:12
edisonbulbcristian_c, Yea, probably overkill for this situatiion lol17:12
edisonbulb*what i suggested17:12
alkisgNecrosporus: only with dd, if the target partition is larger17:12
cristian_cNecrosporus: usually, dd, but I'm not sure17:12
b1sHello.17:12
cristian_cNecrosporus: so, wait some further feedback17:12
vimartHi bls17:12
alkisgcristian_c:  $ dpkg -S /boot17:13
alkisgbase-files, grub-ipxe, grub2-themes-ubuntu-mate, memtest86+, linux-image-4.10.0-38-generic, linux-image-4.10.0-40-generic: /boot17:13
NecrosporusPerhaps ntfsclone17:13
alkisgcristian_c: there's no "boot installer", packages put stuff in /boot, and postinst scripts17:13
alkisgcristian_c: so you'd just copy your existing files there, from old /boot to the new one17:13
cristian_cok17:13
b1sdo people talk freely here or private message to the staff rather about problems?17:13
cristian_calkisg: my old boot is the current boot17:13
edisonbulbbls: this is a community support channel17:14
alkisgb1s: there's no staff here, only community, random people that may help you if you ask public, not in PMs17:14
cristian_calkisg: instead, if you mean extracting files from backupped boot, I'm happy to do it17:14
alkisgcristian_c: no, I mean if you want to create a new boot for some reason that I don't know, you can, and then you'd copy your existing /boot files there17:14
lotuspsychje!support | b1s17:15
ubottub1s: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com17:15
edisonbulbto get help you pretty much just ask your question and someone here will try to answer it or suggest a better way17:15
alkisgcristian_c: if you think it has bad sectors, you'd see it in dmesg17:15
b1sOk. Well. I'm kinda looking some help, cause I'm trying to compile something with a different compiler and I'm missing some headers all the time and I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong here.17:15
b1sI'm mainly missing some stuff that I have defienetly installed like jansson.h and curl.h17:16
lotuspsychjeb1s: did you try finding your package on official repos first?17:17
cristian_calkisg: I'd like to create a new /boot in case the current one is damaged17:17
b1slike with the find command?17:17
cristian_calkisg: but I'm not sure if the damaged thing is grub or boot17:17
cristian_c*which between two ones17:18
b1ssry, I'm a bit of a noobie around linux.17:18
lotuspsychjeb1s: apt-cache search your-package-name17:18
b1sI'll try that17:18
cristian_calkisg: I think also you're right abput grub.cfg, but I don't know how to repair it17:18
lotuspsychje!msgthebot > b1s you can find packages here also17:19
ubottub1s, please see my private message17:19
fabiobik(off-topic) Hello guys, does someone recommend me a video interview service online?17:19
lotuspsychje!ot | fabiobik try here mate17:19
ubottufabiobik try here mate: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:19
b1sit did find them17:19
lotuspsychjeb1s: we reccomend installing packages for ubuntu tru official repos, instead of compiling your own17:20
cristian_calkisg: about dmesg, do you mean from a live system?17:20
fabiobiklotuspsychje: thanks17:20
b1sI think I did just that.17:21
lotuspsychje!apt | b1s here to install guide17:22
ubottub1s here to install guide: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Muon (KDE) or !Apper (KDE)17:22
alkisgcristian_c: sure, as long as you access the bad sectors17:23
cristian_calkisg: I thought live session and chroot continue to use live system kernel in place of target kernel (sed by chrooted system)17:24
cristian_cbut I'll try anyway17:24
alkisgcristian_c: any kernel would be able to detect bad sectors17:25
cristian_cok17:25
b1sI dont think my problem is the actual packages, since I'm able to compile them with a different comiler.17:25
b1s*compiler17:25
alkisgcristian_c: to reinstall grub, you run dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64 in the chroot, after bind-mounting proc, sys, dev, dev/pts17:26
cristian_calkisg: it coul be also a comfoguration issue (a bad grub.cfg), I don't know, there are some options I could try (boot repair, grub-install, rrplacing boot from backup again, ....)17:26
alkisgKeep a backup and try boot repair17:27
cristian_calkisg: ah, ok17:27
cristian_cI've not tried dpkg reconfigre yet, thanks17:27
cristian_calkisg: some threads on askubuntu, are different about binding. Some use /dev, /run, /proc, /sys, other use /dev , /dev/pts, /proc, /sys17:28
cristian_cmany use a for loop17:28
cristian_cI've tried both, in my attempts, btw17:29
cristian_cbtw, thabks for the help17:30
cristian_cI'll try all of these suggestions, if needed17:31
lotuspsychje!compile | b1s17:31
ubottub1s: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall17:31
b1syes I did find the packages17:31
b1sI think the problem is faulty include pointer17:31
b1sor the compiler is not looking at the right place.17:31
lotuspsychjeb1s: whats your end goal exactly as package you need to compile?17:33
b1sI'm playing with parallella and I'm tryin to run some basic software with the epiphany cpu17:34
b1sI'm trying to do this with coprthr 2 and I have been able to get it working for atleast your basic "Hello world"17:35
b1sSo natural next step is to try something more complicated, but I'm stuck with the path to includes I guess being somehow incorrect.17:35
b1sMaybe I should actually try to add the same includes to this hello world and see if they work there.17:36
b1sYeah it fails in that too.17:42
LeMike_Hello. Is it possible to open a new window in a screen and execute a command in it? Within a screen, I want to execute a script, that opens several windows each with a ssh connection to my servers.17:46
lotuspsychje!cron | LeMike_17:47
ubottuLeMike_: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto17:47
EriC^^LeMike_: do you have the "screen" script that opens the ssh and makes the windows (in the same terminal i assume)17:47
EriC^^?17:47
EriC^^oh wait, you said several windows each17:48
lotuspsychjeb1s: for the compiling part, we cant really support, but do ask about ubuntu issues you experience, detailed17:48
LeMike_yee EriC^^ . Like "screen -t first-server ssh first-server" but this fails or gets stuck somewhere.17:48
EriC^^LeMike_: you could do #!/bin/bash gnome-terminal -e "screen first-server" & gnome-terminal -e "screen second-server" &17:49
LeMike_EriC^^: Thing is not every employee has gnome so I am stuck to a simple shell and thought screen could help me out here17:50
EriC^^when the ssh closes, the terminal will close (so you won't get the scrollback) if you need it just use gnome-terminal -e "bash -c 'screen first-server; bash'" &17:50
EriC^^LeMike_: if you want to open a window for each ssh then you need to run the terminal program, i'd think17:51
b1sYeah. I get it.17:52
LeMike_hm. with window I mean the screen windows. That you open via keyboard "C-A, c"17:52
EriC^^LeMike_: gnome-terminal or any terminal, see the manpage on how to give it a starting command to run17:52
EriC^^LeMike_: ohh ok17:52
LeMike_EriC^^: you can also open them when you are within a screen and run "screen -t foo zsh" then you have a window with zsh open (as you see using C-a, "). But when I do the same with "ssh foo-server" then it won't give me a proper shell.17:56
LeMike_Is this even the right place to ask for it?17:56
lotuspsychjeLeMike_: there is also #openssh if you like17:56
new_to_ubuntuHey guys! can someone tell me how can i contribute to ubuntu and where to start?17:57
lotuspsychje!contribute | new_to_ubuntu17:58
ubottunew_to_ubuntu: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu17:58
lotuspsychjenew_to_ubuntu: any direction you wanna start with?17:58
EriC^^LeMike_: what happens when you try? here or ##linux yeah17:58
Steristany accurate s.m.a.r.t. programs? "Disks" seems to report hard drives of all ages and wear levels as pre-fail and old age17:59
EriC^^Sterist: did you try smartctl of smartmontools package?17:59
new_to_ubuntuthanks ubottu :D lotuspsychje no18:00
LeMike_lotuspsychje: oh, wait. with "mosh" it is working o,O guess I stick to that18:00
Steristno, please tell me they're not CLI lol18:00
LeMike_Nice, thanks all :)18:00
lotuspsychjenew_to_ubuntu: we welcome you to the ubuntu community18:00
new_to_ubuntu:D18:00
lotuspsychjeSterist: are you on unity?18:01
Steristnegative.18:01
lotuspsychje!info gnome-disk-utility | Sterist18:02
ubottuSterist: gnome-disk-utility (source: gnome-disk-utility): manage and configure disk drives and media. In component main, is optional. Version 3.26.1-0ubuntu1 (artful), package size 227 kB, installed size 1152 kB18:02
EriC^^Sterist: it's cli but it's just a command you run and it gives the output in a nice format18:03
lotuspsychjeSterist: the tools EriC^^ provided are more advanced to what you need18:03
lotuspsychjeSterist: so recommended the cli way18:05
Steristright. installing now18:05
Steristdo you know the command offhand?18:08
erle-Are there any tips to improve Gnome performance in Virtualbox? (Guest Additions are installed and working.)18:08
erle-The flash when pressing the Screenshot key is incredibly slow, halting the system for seconds.18:08
lotuspsychjeerle-: to improve virtual, tweak your physical system18:09
lotuspsychje!info preload | erle-18:09
ubottuerle-: preload (source: preload): adaptive readahead daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4-2 (artful), package size 34 kB, installed size 135 kB18:09
lotuspsychjeerle-: more ram, ssd,swap,system cleaning,etc18:10
erle-it has 4 GB (host has 8), i7 etc.18:10
erle-with other Desktops it works perfectly18:10
erle-the problem can be reduced to video acceleration18:10
erle-(Mate has no problems whatsoever)18:11
lotuspsychjeerle-: your on 17.10?18:11
erle-yes18:11
erle-I am specifically asking about Gnome Shell18:11
lotuspsychjeerle-: wayland or xorg?18:11
erle-because it requires advanced video18:11
erle-VBox guest can only Xorg18:11
lotuspsychjeerle-: well in my case gnome eats alot of cpu in htop18:12
Steristshould smartctl be ran as sudo?18:12
lotuspsychje!man | Sterist18:12
ubottuSterist: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/18:12
erle-CPU is not the problem at all, lotuspsychje18:12
erle-the exact same Guest has no problems with Mate Desktop18:14
lotuspsychjeerle-: mate is lightweight, gnome is not really right18:14
erle-same problem on all hosts (Windows/Linux, Nvidia/Intel graphics, Wayland/Xorg)18:14
lotuspsychjeerle-: wich graphics chipset your on?18:15
erle-three hosts:18:16
Steristugh I really hate CLI18:16
erle-1st: windows+i7+8GB+intelgraphics18:16
erle-2nd:  linux+i7+16GB+intelgraphics+wayland18:16
erle-3rd: linux+phenom2+16GB+nividia+xorg18:17
ducasseSterist: some options require sudo and some don't, iirc18:17
lotuspsychjeSterist: sudo smartctl -i /dev/sdc (your drive letter here)18:18
Steristsda18:18
lotuspsychjeerle-: with those specs, should run virtual fine, so i guess the intel graphics are bottleneck?18:19
Steristgot it, sudo was needed. seems smartctl reports exactly the same as "Disks" with everything either pre-fail or old age, when almost no values are anywhere near bad ranges and no errors18:20
lotuspsychjeerle-: drivers & systems up to date to latest?18:20
lotuspsychjeSterist: tell us why you think you have bad sectors?18:20
Steristboth on my 8 year old HDD and 6 month old SSD18:20
SteristI don't have any reason to believe I do or don't have bad sectors, it's just odd that the prognosis is always the same regardless of drive18:21
erle-lotuspsychje, no, the problem is Virtualbox alone18:22
erle-natively, Gnome runs fine on all of them18:22
erle-the virtual video acceleration is the problem18:22
lotuspsychjeerle-: perhaps the #vbox guys might know some usefull tweaks?18:22
Steristraw values appear to be read correctly, but the diagnosis seems to have no regard for values18:22
lotuspsychjeSterist: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools18:23
Steristfor example, "read error rate" of 0 somehow equates to "pre-fail"18:24
Steristabsolutely bonkers! lol18:24
lotuspsychjeSterist: for more detailed information about hardware, you can try also ##hardware those guys are specialized18:25
Steristgood to know! thank you :)18:25
lotuspsychjeSterist: for more info about ubuntu and packages, feel free to ask here18:26
pennTellerGuys do you know how to improve the thumb rejection in a trackpad? I would like to rest my thumb on the trackpad and still be able to move the pointer with my index finger like in Mac Os18:35
lotuspsychjepennTeller: this what you looking for? https://askubuntu.com/questions/931761/how-to-fix-palm-rejection-on-ubuntu-16-04-lts18:38
spqhi, how can i switch back to /etc/network/interfaces in 17.10 ?18:46
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pennTellerlotuspsychje, thank you. It is very close to what I need yes18:47
spq(or otherwise, can i use systemd-network or netplan to create tun/tap interfaces)18:47
spq(if i can do that in netplan, then i also need to be able to configure an ethernet interface to have a direct peer and not a netmask)18:48
ikoniaspq: it should work if you just use it, there have been persistent on / off bugs conflicting with network manager for all ubuntu's time using it, I normally find it better to disable network manager IF you're not planning to use it, but that is just a personal thing18:50
ikoniakeep in mind that network manager also interacts with things like dnsmasq18:50
ikoniaspq: I thought current network manager version would support tun devices ?18:50
spqikonia: it is for a server, so no nwmgr18:51
ikoniaspq:....then why do you think the interface file is not working ?18:51
spqikonia: there is no ifupdown18:52
spqand not /etc/network/interfaces file18:52
spq-t18:52
ikoniaspq: it's managed via systemd now is it not ?18:52
spqi don't know, ubuntu changed stuff, the web says me, we should use netplan now but i doubt it has all the equired features18:53
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apb1963 ubuntu 16.04 LTS: setup bind9 to be authoritative, but it's not authoritative - I'm having several issues.  The first one that needs resolving is what dig says: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: REFUSED, id: 2222  named.conf.options here: https://pastebin.com/TCvvkwCV19:44
ikoniaapb1963: you need to explain the problem a little more detailed19:58
Tenacious-TechhuHow do I set xdg-settings for all users?20:06
apb1963ikonia, I'm pretty sure all the details are there... what else would you like to know?20:08
ikoniaapb1963: setup bind to be authorive, but it's not...., you're getting a refusal for querys, but you're not stating what you're looking up and against what instance, eg: the command you are running20:09
ikoniaapb1963: you're also not showing the logs to show us what bind thinks is happening20:09
ikoniaalso is 192.168/24 a valid option, should it not be a true cidr block, of 192.168.0.0./2420:11
ikoniashould you not be using the ACL name rather than the subnet too? is that not why you defined the ACL ?20:12
EriC^^Tenacious-Techhu: how are you setting it for 1 user?20:13
apb1963ikonia, I was wondering about the cidr block myself, I copied it; I suspect it defaults to 0 when not specified.  However... it's a good thing to check to be sure.20:15
apb1963ikonia, I changed it... no difference in results.20:17
apb1963ikonia, The additional details you requested: https://pastebin.com/8uLdkjhz20:22
Tenacious-TechhuEriC^^, when I do "xdg-settings set <whatever>", it seems to only apply to that one user; it doesn't apply to other users, for some reason.20:37
Cheguacamoleexcuse me i'm fairly new, can someone please teach me the ignore command, someone is driving me nuts on an unregulated channel20:41
EriC^^Cheguacamole: /ignore nick20:42
Cheguacamolesweet ty kindly20:42
MrJonesmy crontab -e doesn't run, what can I do about it? the syslog has mentions for various cron scripts but not any @daily entries apart from popularity-contest so I suspect it isn't even attempted to run for some reason20:43
MrJonesis there some obvious reason why crontab -e for root wouldn't be run by default?20:43
EriC^^MrJones: type "crontab -l | nc termview.me 9999"20:43
EriC^^MrJones: type "sudo crontab -l | nc termview.me 9999"20:43
MrJonesdoesn't that pipe it in plain text to some bogus internet service?20:44
EriC^^not bogus internet service, it's a legitimate pastebin for helping others20:44
MrJonesEriC^^: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/jJn96P1blEw4D1Sdzf2Lig20:45
MrJoneswhen I just paste /bin/bash /srv/proxy-restart.sh > /dev/null 2>&1 into my terminal and press enter it works as intended20:46
MrJonesand syslog mentions hourly and even weekly: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/rigZ2gxbzzhafClyq1kpyA but no mention of daily except for popularity-contest (which seems to be an unrelated preinstalled script)20:47
MrJoneswhich makes me suspect that the crontab -e contents aren't even properly put into whatever central thing they need to be put to run daily20:47
MrJonesor some other obvioous thing I might have missed that needs enabling first20:48
EriC^^MrJones: try sudo grep CRON /var/log/syslog20:48
tacomasterI am having issues with speeds on a intel centrino ultimate-n 6300 under linux and wanted to see if anyone can help me out. Its been a while since it has been in my laptop running ubuntu but it was running at over 100Mbps but now I cant get it over 34Mbps. Trying to see if there is any tweaking I can do for this?20:49
MrJonesEriC^^: same output minus the last line Nov 26 21:44:47 Ubuntu-1704-zesty-64-minimal crontab[32552]: (root) LIST (root)20:50
tacomasterI have found that it uses the iwlwifi driver20:50
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EriC^^MrJones: what about ls -l /var/spool/crontab/root; cat /var/spool/crontab/root ?20:51
MrJonesEriC^^: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/Mex9l7OeaV4sVXeojyIwiw20:52
MrJones(I corrected the path to the existing /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root )20:52
EriC^^the permissions look fine, maybe it just hasn't run yet?20:53
EriC^^did you try "* * * * * /bin/bash ...." as a test?20:53
EriC^^that should run every minute20:54
necrogamiAnyone have any idea how to disable the popup for display arrangement when 17.10 detects a new display attached?20:58
necrogamiIt keeps killing my triple monitor setup by putting it to mirror or laptop display only or external only whenever it comes out of sleep mode20:58
MrJonesEriC^^: I tried */5 * * * * now, it should run in <2 minutes20:58
MrJonesevery minute might be a bad idea, it's not the fastest job and it'll probably break oddly if it runs in parallel20:59
necrogamiAlso does anyone have any idea how to prevent gpu-manager from killing my xorg.conf on EVERY reboot20:59
Tenacious-TechhuEriC^^, how do I get it to apply across all users?21:00
akiknecrogami: you can set the config file immutable so it doesn't change21:01
necrogamiif i do that it won't boot21:02
MrJonesEriC^^: it appeared in /var/log/syslog now, so I guess that's progress.. it doesn't look like it actually ran properly tho :-/21:03
EriC^^Tenacious-Techhu: i couldn't find a 'proper' way on google, an idea i had was to add it to /etc/profile as xdg-settings set ... (that file gets run as every user logs in)21:03
Ben64MrJones: take out the redirect21:03
necrogamiakik: it crashes on starting session / starting nvidia something ... i can't remember exactly i'd have to set it reboot, and then reboot into recovery to fix21:04
Tenacious-TechhuEriC^^, is there something that can be done to the skel about it?21:04
akiknecrogami: what is gpu-manager used for? can you disable it?21:04
necrogamii've commented out the /etc/init/ file .. honestly i don't know what else is caling it.21:05
necrogamiakik: ^21:05
EriC^^Tenacious-Techhu: /etc/profile is nicer cause it works for many shells i think21:05
MrJonesBen64: same result (appears in syslog but script didn't work), but syslog says this additional line now: (No MTA installed, discarding output)21:06
EriC^^MrJones: define didn't work21:06
MrJonesEriC^^: it restarts a service and I can see by checking the service uptime that it didn't restart21:07
MrJoneswhen I run it manually, everything works as intended21:07
Ben64probably bad script then21:07
EriC^^MrJones: do you have a > /tmp/cronlog 2>&1 at the end of the line?21:07
MrJonesno I removed all redirects now since Ben64 asked me to21:07
EriC^^if not add one and check the file after it runs21:07
akiknecrogami: try disabling gpu-manager and see if it's needed21:07
necrogamiThat's the problem, i can't disable it because i can't find what's calling it21:08
akiknecrogami: if it's systemd in 17.10, then systemctl disable service21:09
apb1963MTA = Mail Transfer Agent21:10
MrJonesjesus21:10
MrJonesit's that bs again21:10
Tenacious-TechhuEriC^^, I'm not sure what you mean; how is what is in "/etc/profile" at all a replacement for the skel?21:10
MrJonesEriC^^: /usr/local/bin is not in $PATH for cron, that's why it didn't work >.>21:10
MrJonesI forgot that can happen21:10
Ben64yep21:10
Ben64always use full paths21:10
MrJoneswhy is it like that anyway? that's not the first time that bites me ._.21:11
Ben64it's a different environment21:11
MrJonesyes but why does it have to be stupid :|21:11
MrJonesanyway, thanks a lot for the help21:11
EriC^^Tenacious-Techhu: /etc/skel/ gets copied to the user home dir when you create a user, /etc/profile gets run every time a user log ins, and supports many shells21:11
MrJoneshm21:12
MrJonesbut I take it @daily isn't supported either then?21:12
MrJonessince that didn't show up in syslog unlike */5 * * * *21:12
MrJonesI guess I can rewrite using the * notation, I just find the @ things more readable21:12
EriC^^MrJones: it should be, it might not have run yet, you can use "0 0 * * *" instead of @daily if you want21:12
MrJonesEriC^^: no it hasn't turned up in the syslog for a couple of days21:13
MrJonesso it's definitely something else than just a lack of waiting time21:13
Tenacious-TechhuEriC^^, I asked about the skel because I was wondering if there was a way to make new users have the correct xdg-settings.21:13
EriC^^Tenacious-Techhu: i know21:14
necrogamiakik: this is what happens when I disabled gpu-manager or set xorg.conf immutable https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/UG88tWEddanSEBmMnsQdMpJ3SMFspphTtKEogxIjZW121:17
akiknecrogami: sorry, maybe someone else knows how to fix it21:21
akiknecrogami: i had gpu-manager on 14.04 and disabling it didn't cause that kind of problem21:22
akiknecrogami: does it remove the config also if you put it into /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ?21:23
necrogamiNot tired that but I'm trying to run my whole config21:26
akiknecrogami: yes it can also be in one file under xorg.conf.d21:27
necrogamiakik: xorg.conf.d does not exist21:28
akiknecrogami: yes. create it21:29
necrogamiWhat permissions should it have?21:30
akiknecrogami: just normal directory 755, file 64421:30
Tenacious-TechhuEriC^^, then is it something that can be done in the skel somewhere, or not?21:34
necrogamiakik: copying my backup xorg.conf to xorg.conf.d/mine.conf causes the same error as before21:35
akiknecrogami: and you enabled the gpu-manager service again?21:35
necrogamiit was disabled21:36
necrogamii re-enabled rebooted same21:36
necrogamii removed the mine.conf21:36
necrogamirebooted and it was fine21:36
akiknecrogami: so now you're back in square one and everything works?21:39
necrogamiyep21:40
brymanyone have any tips for a corrupted package cache in 16.04.3?21:44
EriC^^brym: rm the list and run apt update?21:45
brymEriC^^: tried. results in more corrupted error messages.21:46
EriC^^you ran sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* ?21:46
EriC^^and ../lists/partial/* ?21:47
brymah, nope. not the whole lot. i'll do that now21:47
Bashing-ombrym: try as ' sudo rm -fr /var/lib/apt/lists ; sudo mkdir -pv /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ; sidp apt update ' .21:48
Bashing-omsudo*21:49
codevisionaryhi21:52
codevisionary1102 users, 0 active?21:54
codevisionarynice.21:54
spqis äsystemd the right place to ask systemd-networkd specific questions or should i ask here?21:55
brymlies. at least 4 active in the last 10 minutes ;)21:55
codevisionaryah.21:58
akik!ask21:58
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:58
codevisionarywhere do you get stats?21:58
oerheksstats of what? http://popcon.ubuntu.com/21:59
codevisionaryof how mnay users are active?22:00
codevisionarymany*22:00
akikcodevisionary: we're active. do you have a support question?22:00
oerheksmabe your irc client has a plugin for that22:01
codevisionaryI actually didn't realize this was a support only channel, I apologize.22:01
brymcache updated. thanks muchly gents22:03
codevisionaryis there something I can install to easily fix broken packages via command line in ubuntu?22:09
codevisionaryI remember there being a simple way, but don't remember what it was22:10
codevisionarywhen I apt-get update, some packages aren't even found. I want to remove those as well22:10
EriC^^codevisionary: run "     (sudo apt-get update; cat /etc/apt/sources.list; tail -n+1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*) |& nc termview.me 9999    "22:16
EriC^^codevisionary: paste the link it gives you here22:17
codevisionaryhttp://termview.me/r6iy/22:18
codevisionarythe razer stuff is for my keyboard, but recently decided to stop working.22:19
codevisionaryand a couple more packages are no longer available22:19
EriC^^codevisionary: did you include the ( ) 's ?22:21
QwertyChouskieI'm having an issue with my Ubuntu laptop, the FS ends up mounted as RO instead of RW, any ideas? dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26053822/22:22
codevisionaryyes.22:22
QwertyChouskieIt seems /dev/sda9 is being remounted multiple times22:22
QwertyChouskieWhat could cause that?22:22
EriC^^codevisionary: try just "sudo apt-get update 2>&1 | nc termview.me 9999"22:22
QwertyChouskieI can get it to finish booting by running "sudo mount --verbose -o remount,rw /"22:23
QwertyChouskieBut I don't want to have to do that every boot... :/22:23
codevisionaryhttp://termview.me/xl7r/22:23
codevisionarythat is not at all what I see when I do apt-get update22:23
EriC^^QwertyChouskie: bad wire or something?22:23
codevisionaryI get tons of warnings22:23
QwertyChouskieEriC^^: It's a laptop22:24
EriC^^QwertyChouskie: did you smart test the drive?22:24
QwertyChouskieAnd everything seems fine once I manually remount and go into the system22:24
oerhekslot of elementary-os stuff ..22:25
QwertyChouskieI'll check22:25
EriC^^codevisionary: try sudo apt-get update |& nc termbin.com 999922:25
EriC^^QwertyChouskie: try sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda22:26
codevisionaryhttp://termbin.com/edmy22:26
codevisionaryit's not a really big deal but it's preventing my auto updater from running, I have to do apt-get full-upgrade every time22:28
EriC^^codevisionary: try running sudo apt-get update and manually paste the errors in http://paste.ubuntu.com22:28
oerheksonly https://launchpad.net/~nvbn-rm/+archive/ubuntu/ppa has no xenial candidates22:29
codevisionaryhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/26053905/22:30
QwertyChouskieEriC^^: I just used GSmartControl to run a quick self-test and it tested good22:30
oerheksoh finally, the errors22:31
EriC^^codevisionary: do you need packages from those razerutils and nvbn-rm ppa's?22:32
codevisionaryno longer needing razer packages, but I'm not even sure what nvbn-rm is for?22:32
codevisionaryI think it's for everpad/evernote22:34
codevisionarywhich I tried to install and it didn't work.22:34
codevisionaryI'm afraid to purge or remove anything without accidentally destroying my system22:35
EriC^^codevisionary: you won't22:37
EriC^^codevisionary: type sudo apt-get install ppa-purge22:39
EriC^^!ppa-purge | codevisionary22:39
ubottucodevisionary: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html22:39
QwertyChouskieEriC^^: Here are the potentially relevant lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26054014/22:42
codevisionarytyvm Eric22:44
hellimodThe drone is broken22:50
QwertyChouskieEriC^^ Here are the potentially relevant lines: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26054014/22:51
ksbalajiI use 16.04. I meddled with compiz to get cube. I lost wall as well as windows gui. Now I am in prompt mode only :(. How to reconfigure display please?23:06
ikoniaksbalaji: look at the logs to find out why it's not booting the desktop23:07
ikoniafix that first23:07
ksbalajiikonia: I get the desktop, but only unable to see windows I open.23:08
ksbalajiikonia: How to see logs please?23:08
ikoniaksbalaji: you just said "now I@m in a prompt mode only"23:08
ikoniaksbalaji: thats quite different than geting the desktop23:08
oerheksrm  -rf ~/.compiz  ~/.config/compiz-1 # logout/login again23:09
ksbalajiikonia: Ah! I rebooted to this prompt mode to login irssi.23:09
ikoniaoerheks: a simpler approach which I feel will work better than where I was going23:09
ksbalajiikonia: This is the only method I know of to get to chat with you.23:10
ikoniaksbalaji: what you've just said makes no sense. I've dropped out of the desktop mode to boot into the shell so I can launch irssi to talk to you23:11
ikoniaksbalaji: I suggest you follow what oerheks suggested as a quick resolution23:11
uRockIs there a meta package for installing Artful's kernel in 16.04?23:11
ikoniauRock: you don't do that23:12
oerheksuRock, no, but there is a HWE extention, not sure it gives artfull 4.13 ..23:12
oerheks!hwe23:12
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack23:12
uRockThat's what I was looking for. Thanks oerheks23:13
ksbalajiThanks. I shall write down the command, quit irssi, type the command and run it. Is there a way I can stay logged in irssi and also run the above command?23:14
ikoniaksbalaji: why don't you just do it from the desktop where you can have multiple shells open23:14
JoshuaDyou can also press ctrl + z to suspend irssi and get back to a console. After you're run the command, you can type "fg" to resume irssi23:15
uRockoerheks, you're correct. still on 4.10*23:15
necrogamiDoes anyone know how to configure the display arrangement popup for a triple monitor setup? (17.10)23:18
ksbalajiikonia: i think I am not able to state the problem to you. I have now rebooted into prompt mode to log into irssi. But, if I did a regular bootup, I land up with a desktop display where I am unable to view any application I launch. Do I make sense please?23:19
ikoniaksbalaji: no, as you said you had a desktop a minute ago,23:19
ikoniayou've changed your story 3 times,23:19
ikoniaksbalaji: just run the command and you'll be fine23:19
oerheksalt f2; terminal # or ctrl alt T23:20
ksbalajiok. I shall to get out of irssi to type that command.23:21
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Tenacious-TechhuHow do I modify the configuration files adduser copies when creating a new user?23:51
bcowanTenacious-Techhu, usually they are stored in /etc/skel23:53
Tenacious-TechhuRight, but even of those areas are mostly empty, stuff is still created; where do those come from?23:54
timyp#freebsd23:58
Blade2021Hi all23:59
Blade2021got a quick question23:59

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