[00:20] <kgbme> managed it all with apt
[01:04] <xfirst24hourubun> My trackpad has stopped working on my ideapad 110 running 16.04
[01:07] <kgbme> hehe what was the last thing you had done, when it stopped :)
[01:09] <xfirst24hourubun> using it as a router basicly
[01:09] <xfirst24hourubun> tried to connect to a few devices with bluetooth as well
[01:10] <xfirst24hourubun> i should also clarify that i've got no idea about using this os yet haha
[01:10] <kgbme> ok but it's not going to 'stop working' on its own, right?
[01:10] <xfirst24hourubun> i agree
[01:10] <kgbme> you had to have sudo apt-get installed something maybe, or like way prior and then an auto-update carried on
[01:10] <xfirst24hourubun> do you have any tips on how i can figure out what it is that is breaking on me?
[01:11] <xfirst24hourubun> yes, samba
[01:11] <xfirst24hourubun> i tried to install that, but also removed it again
[01:11] <xfirst24hourubun> it gave me an error on initial install
[01:12] <xfirst24hourubun> ive also tried setting updating settings so that it doesn't install but the official said allright to things
[01:14] <kgbme> ok i can see that mine is: "xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-hwe-16.04" so it *looks* like it's part of the hwe kernel-thingy that ubuntu is doing (on lts)
[01:14] <kgbme> not sure
[01:15] <kgbme> sec.
[01:16] <kgbme> check it out, bt please don't run the CMD prior to reading the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[01:16] <kgbme> link is in the text, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack
[01:17] <xfirst24hourubun> Thanks dude! :) - Ive learned my lesson about doing anything before being absolutely certain of what i am doing
[01:17] <xfirst24hourubun> now ive got something to go on :)
[01:17] <kgbme> there's like 50% chance that might be it, not sure
[01:18] <kgbme> that whole hardware-kernel-input thing going on
[01:19] <kgbme> ^^ probably nothing to do with samba
[01:19] <kgbme> (i mean quite possibly nothing to do with what you were doing. :))
[01:20] <kgbme> xfirst24hourubun: and after, if u chose to run it, log out and make sure it's not saving your session - then reboot
[01:21] <kgbme> should be just a checkbox on the logout dialog
[01:21] <xfirst24hourubun> I was sure that i had done something stupid haha. - now ive read up on this whole thing, as ive got no idea about how this whole thing works
[01:22] <xfirst24hourubun> but even these small problems are actually exciting to figure out :D
[01:22] <kgbme> it's probably already auto-updated on your system, the documentation says 16.02
[01:22] <kgbme> what version you got lsb_release -a
[01:22] <kgbme> we should check for the kernel version actually, bt i mean - you'll need it eventually, so you might as well do it
[01:22] <kgbme> what does uname -a say?
[01:23] <xfirst24hourubun> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS Release:	16.04 Codename:	xenial
[01:24] <kgbme> uname -a
[01:24] <kgbme> just to see the kernel
[01:24] <kgbme> i mean, if u can post it.. or i can give you mine, sec
[01:24] <xfirst24hourubun> 4.10.0-40-generic #44~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 9 15:37:44 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:25] <xfirst24hourubun> was that it?
[01:25] <kgbme> hmm
[01:25] <kgbme> yes and that's the hwe :(
[01:25] <kgbme> *rolling
[01:26] <kgbme> looks like u already got it on the system
[01:26] <xfirst24hourubun> excuse my stupidity haha
[01:26] <kgbme> nah, all good :)
[01:26] <xfirst24hourubun> so i allowed a stupid update basicly?
[01:26] <kgbme> just - i don't know what to tell you now how to handle this
[01:27] <kgbme> no, no, it's fine - it will be 'forced' on the next LTS version anyway
[01:27] <kgbme> might as well deal with it now, idk.
[01:27] <kgbme> IF that's the issue
[01:27] <xfirst24hourubun> well ive gotta learn something, but i dont mind
[01:27] <kgbme> trackpads are a pain - it's a really specific driver
[01:28] <xfirst24hourubun> its not a huge problem for me personally, i was mostly wondering what caused it
[01:28] <kgbme> ofc. it should work =)
[01:28] <xfirst24hourubun> now that you mention it, that makes sense
[01:28] <xfirst24hourubun> thanks for the tips broheim
[01:29] <kgbme> i don't know if re-running the kernel upgrade can do something with xinput
[01:29] <kgbme> maybe worth a try :-s
[01:29] <kgbme> if it all goes auto, you don't even have to worry about it, idk.
[01:29] <kgbme> :)
[01:30] <kgbme> from that URL, you can try the kernel command for your 16.04 version if you like, that's what i'm saying
[01:30] <kgbme> (certainly nothing unwanted will happen)
[01:31] <kgbme> there's: "DESKTOP" and "SERVER" there
[01:31] <xfirst24hourubun> yeah thats what im sitting here pondering
[01:31] <xfirst24hourubun> doing it two sec
[01:31] <kgbme> just give it a whirl :))
[01:32] <kgbme> xfirst24hourubun:
[01:32] <xfirst24hourubun> its installed
[01:32] <kgbme> hang on forgot
[01:32] <kgbme> something important, lol
[01:32] <xfirst24hourubun> can u tell me the comment to remove it first hehe
[01:32] <kgbme> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade BEFORE you log out... just in case :)
[01:33] <kgbme> it won't be removed - as it's already installed on your system. just the re-run may trigger the trackpad driver (on log out and reboot, kernel reload)
[01:34] <xfirst24hourubun> nice bro, im just slow tonight ;)
[01:34] <kgbme> non-technically speaking :)
[01:34] <xfirst24hourubun> relogging to see what happens haha
[01:34] <kgbme> reboot 2
[01:34] <xfirst24hourubun> cool
[01:34] <xfirst24hourubun> imma report back two sec
[01:34] <kgbme> good luck! ;p
[01:51] <kgbme> maybe that was a bad idea
[02:35] <spyke581> I have a box that id like to use as a HTPC but it has a displayport instead of HDMI. i cant figure out how to configure audio out over displayport since xubuntu isnt recognizng it as an option. Any help?
[04:50] <cfhowlett> !ping
[06:58] <DJComputerguy> Hello, i have tried a few differnt distros of ubuntu,and i have been having trouble getting more than 2 monitors to function properly. Does xfce or ubuntu in general support having multiple displays across multiple graphics cards?
[07:35] <xubuntu17i> hellow
[07:36] <xubuntu17i> world
[07:36] <xubuntu17i> est kto givoy
[20:01] <kgbme> can't find how to get rid of the extra space at the bottom of xfce4-terminal that shows when removing the menu bar (--hide-menubar) https://s33.postimg.org/8atn8jzwv/Screenshot_2017-11-26_20-43-16.png
[20:02] <kgbme> some1 pls help out :)
[20:02] <knome> i don't think you can, lines are certain height and that's it
[20:02] <knome> where would that space go?
[20:02] <kgbme> oh o.0 bt, it's not there when the menubar is showing
[20:03] <knome> yeah, because the menubar height doesn't equal a line height?
[20:04] <kgbme> think i get that, but what do ppl with irssi and weechat and other do.. with .screenrc there was a command
[20:04] <kgbme> use a diff terminal? :(
[20:04] <knome> the screenshot suggests it's a fullscreen window - is it?
[20:04] <kgbme> no it's 60% dropdown
[20:04] <kgbme> no difference in --maximize
[20:05] <knome> change the dropdown height?
[20:05] <kgbme> i'll try, just a couple of hours ago everything was fine on 16.04.3 and now on 17.10 this non-issue is back.. i don't remember customizing anything there
[20:06] <kgbme> so i'm stumped wth is going on here :-s
[20:07] <kgbme> i pin the dropdown, open a tab and close it and there's no space - i use the shortcut to hide it and unhide it and the space is back
[20:07] <kgbme> ehh
[20:07] <kgbme> fresh install, haven't touched anything
[20:08] <kgbme> just apt update
[20:08] <kgbme> actually just new tab and then closing it and this window loses its space
[20:10] <kgbme> --fullscreen same thing and on 16.04.3 it was drawing it differently or something; had no issue
[20:11] <kgbme> yeah the new tab doesn't take up the space, only on closing it is the window redrawn without the bottom blank
[20:12] <kgbme> geez
[20:15] <kgbme> and when it's --fullscreen opening and closing a tab doesn't take out the space. ah, fun times
[20:17] <kgbme> if i figure it out, i'll search if the issue had been reported and see if it's a bug report - i guess, although it's not i know
[20:40] <kgbme> on 62% height it does the opposite of the behavior above. wow xD
[21:39] <kgbme> knome: yea there's no different way that it *could* draw it, tnx