[05:36] <lotuspsychje> morning guys
[05:39] <Sveta> hi lotuspsychje :)
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> hey Sveta
[06:41] <ducasse> morning all
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse :p
[06:42] <ducasse> hiya lotuspsychje
[06:43] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: work day ahead?
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> yess
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> whole week :p
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> 4 weeks till xmass
[06:46] <ducasse> ugh, yes...
[06:47] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:48] <ducasse> \o  lordievader
[06:49] <lordievader> Hey ducasse , how are you?
[06:51] <ducasse> a bit stressed today, but i'm sure it will work out. and you?
[06:51] <lordievader> Doing good
[06:51] <lordievader> Bit early at work today.
[06:51] <lordievader> But oh, well.
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> whats up ducasse ?
[06:56] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[06:56] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> great here
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> coffee before work
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> cold n rainy in belgium brrr
[06:56] <lordievader> Yeah, same here.
[06:56] <lordievader> 😞
[06:57] <ducasse> doesn't really look that cold here, just really, really dark
[06:58] <jink> WHAZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
[06:58] <jink> Is het al weekend? :)
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> uh oh
[06:58] <jink> ^__^
[06:58]  * lotuspsychje runs away fast
[07:00] <lordievader> ducasse: We got dark too, want some? Takes way too long before the sun is up.
[07:02] <ducasse> no thanks, we've got plenty :)
[07:14] <ducasse> oooh, heavy snow tomorrow - i'm sure that will be popular
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> jingle bells...
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> jink smells
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> batman got away..
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> batmobile lost his wheel
[07:15] <lotuspsychje> and oerheks got away
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> or something :p
[07:18] <ducasse> :)
[07:18] <jink> lotuspsychje: Awwwwwwwwwwww, ben je vast met Sinterklaas begonnen?
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> erm..i dont believe in santa claus anymore
[07:19] <jink> :P
[07:20] <jink> Neither do my kids, but you know. :)
[07:20] <jink> Is that even a thing in Belgium?
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> yep
[07:20] <jink> (Y)
[07:21] <jink> brb, ran out of fuel^Wcoffee
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:22]  * lotuspsychje grabs some gasoline
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[07:27] <ducasse> lotuspsychje: i used to admin the computer systems at a newspaper. one day two of the journalists walked into the break room while i was making tea, sat down, and one of them sighed deeply. "what's wrong?" said the first one. the other replied "nothing some good cocaine wouldn't cure"
[07:27] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:28] <EriC^^> heh, reminds me of hunter s. thompson
[07:29]  * lotuspsychje loves narcotics movies
[07:30] <EriC^^> spun, train spotting, requiem for a dream
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> blow
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> rush
[07:31] <EriC^^> fear & loathing, blow
[07:31] <EriC^^> rush hmm never seen that
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: rather old, but nice movie
[07:32] <EriC^^> formula 1 car?
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> rush from (drugs)
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> training day also love
[07:32] <EriC^^> yeah
[07:33] <EriC^^> have you seen spun?
[07:33] <EriC^^> not that it's so good, but it's horendous graphically
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> no
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> brb
[07:36] <ducasse> EriC^^: hunter thompson was a personal hero of mine, have you read his collections of letters etc? some fantastic stuff there :)
[07:38] <ducasse> you also might like an old movie, "where the buffalo roams", where hunter is being played by bill murray
[07:57] <ducasse> has anyone here gotten ncmpcpp to work on artful?
[08:02] <lordievader> ncmpcpp doesnt work?
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> have a nice1 today ttyl
[08:09] <ducasse> lordievader: it's odd. the same version is in both zesty and artful, but on artful i get 'connection refused' when attempting to connect to the mpd server, despite using the same exact config file
[08:09] <lordievader> Mpd is running?
[08:09] <lordievader> And mpc can connect to it?
[08:10] <ducasse> sure, it works fine if i connect from the zesty box, and gmpc works fine from the artful box
[08:10] <lordievader> Hmm
[08:11] <lordievader> Do you see connections on the mpd host?
[08:11] <lordievader> From ncmpcpp I mean.
[08:11] <ducasse> i haven't gotten that far, i was thinking of sniffing the traffic with wireshark or tcpdump next
[08:12] <ducasse> just wondered if anyone else here was using it
[08:17] <ducasse> ok, the connection from gmpc shows up in mpd.log, but nothing when i try ncmpcpp
[08:30] <lordievader> Well, I use it. But I'm not on Ubuntu.
[08:33] <ducasse> i found a ppa with a later version, i'll try that. should probably still report a bug, i guess, this is a totally virgin install...
[08:34] <ducasse> either that, or switch this machine to arch as well :)
[08:35]  * lordievader is running 0.7.7
[08:36] <ducasse> !info ncmpcpp artful
[08:37] <lordievader> 0.7.7 is the (oldest) stable version in the portage tree
[08:38] <ducasse> weird it didn't get an update for artful, 0.8.1 is the version in the ppa
[08:45] <lordievader> Anything interesting with the 0.8 upgrade?
[08:46] <ducasse> features, you mean?
[08:49] <lordievader> For example/
[08:52] <ducasse> haven't installed yet, looking for other problem reports and comparing dependencies atm
[08:53] <ducasse> https://rybczak.net/ncmpcpp/
[08:53] <ducasse> release notes there :)
[08:56] <lordievader> Quite the list of changes for 0.8
[09:01] <ducasse> ok, upgraded to 0.8.1, and still the same problem. now i'm confused.
[09:12] <lordievader> Firewall?
[09:13] <EriC^^> back
[09:19] <ducasse> lordievader: no firewall. and as i said, another mpd client works just fine on the same host...
[09:20] <lordievader> Yeah, that is the strange thing.
[09:21] <lordievader> Ncmpcpp is using the config you specify?
[09:33] <ducasse> i've literally copied the config file from the (working) zesty box. also tried commenting out everything non-essential for establishing a connection. i think this is a problem in libboost, as upgrading the ncmpcpp package itself didn't help. the versions of the dependencies are the only thing that differs.
[09:40] <lordievader> Hmm, yes. Guess your right.
[10:14] <Ben64> wow, biggest xy problem i've seen for some time
[10:27] <ducasse> heading out, bbl
[10:45] <EriC^^> morning all
[10:46] <EriC^^> ducasse: do you help out in other ubuntu related freenode channels?
[10:47] <EriC^^> how can i maybe become an op in the lebanese ubuntu channel i wonder? there are 2 people there, and the topic says latest release 12.04 :D
[12:03] <EriC^^> !Ping
[12:03] <EriC^^> !ping
[12:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:23] <EriC^^> hey BluesKaj
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hey EriC^^
[14:43] <BluesKaj> Hi lordievader,IMO  think that burt guy has some kind of illogical obsession
[14:44] <lordievader> Yeah, I see no real purpose in hiding menu-categories. But hey, who am I.
[16:44] <nicomachus> #ubuntu seems slow today
[16:44] <nicomachus> Had to check to see if my connection died.
[17:30] <nicomachus> i'm going to lunch. mustmodify should be all set once he clears out /boot
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> bon apetit nicomachus
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> tnx for the headsup, we takeover from here :p
[17:31] <oerheks> heya lotus
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> heyyy oerheks
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-linux-torvalds-gives-security-developers-guidance/#ftag=RSSbaffb68
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> !apt-clean
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RemoveOldKernels
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> this would be useful as trigger right?
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> dax: think this would be usefull^
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> alot of users with full kernel lists, never clean it
[17:52] <dax> surprised that still isn't automated
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> we someone said to me once, its because of system doesnt know what kernel you gonna use
[17:53] <dax> meh. keep current, highest version, and highest version minus one
[17:53] <dax> anyway
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> yeah sounds logic to me also
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> why keep kernels that are security risks anyway
[17:55] <dax> !kernelcleanup
[17:55] <dax> (just added)
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> tnx mate, thats gonna rocknroll
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> your the man dax :p
[18:07] <nicomachus> dax: it's supposed to be automated but sometimes they get marked as manually installed and don't get removed.
[18:08] <nicomachus> or people don't run autoremove like they're supposed to.
[18:08] <dax> ah
[18:09] <oerheks> this should be no issue on a fresh 17.10, one partition for all folders incl swapfile
[18:09] <oerheks> i'd love to see a system with max 25 kernels :-D
[18:10] <oerheks> or something like that, grub-limit
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:12] <daftykins> hey folks :)
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> heyy dafty
[18:12] <daftykins> seems the source packages made folks run out of inodes sooner than hitting a limit in the past
[18:12] <BluesKaj> Hi daftykins
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[18:13] <BluesKaj> Hi lotuspsychje
[18:23] <immu> hi oerheks lotuspsychje daftykins blur
[18:23] <immu> BluesKaj,
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> hi
[18:23] <daftykins> \o
[18:24] <BluesKaj> hi immu
[18:25] <immu> whats up
[18:27] <daftykins> mmm builders are getting close to finishing my house here, feels good :D
[18:27] <daftykins> soon i will be able to start cleaning and it'll actually STAY clean!
[18:27] <immu> nice, daftykins send us few pics
[18:28] <daftykins> oh there'll be video come the end
[18:29] <immu> cool let me know when its ready
[18:29] <daftykins> the end of the week might work, as they think they'll be leaving Wednesday
[18:31] <immu> anytime
[18:33] <immu> if you had to choose between a iphone X and Note8, which one would your choose?
[18:34] <daftykins> most likely neither, Apple are pretty evil and Samsung make nice hardware but ruin it by preloading a tonne of junk
[18:35] <daftykins> immu: here are a few from yesterday - https://dafty.rocks/nextcloud/index.php/s/uvrLu94rMy6wc03
[18:43] <immu> nice
[18:44] <daftykins> the last is a new window box which got installed, today there is plasterboard around the sides ready for a plaster coat tomorrow
[18:45] <immu> cool
[18:45] <immu> when its ready give us a sweet video tour yeah
[18:45] <immu> i am off to sleep
[18:45] <immu> see you all tomm amigos
[18:45] <immu> :)
[18:46] <daftykins> hehe, that fella
[20:26] <oerheks> Did Mark filed a bugreport yet? https://www.rt.com/news/411039-living-bacteria-iss-surface/
[21:17] <EriC^^> evening gentlemen
[21:17] <daftykins> heya \o
[21:18] <EriC^^> !ping
[21:18] <daftykins> >:D
[21:23] <EriC^^> hey :D
[21:23] <daftykins> what's new?
[21:24] <EriC^^> not much, you?
[21:25] <daftykins> very close to having the house work complete :)
[21:31] <EriC^^> awesome
[21:38] <oerheks> nope, he ain't selling it, EriC^^
[21:39] <daftykins> ^_^
[21:40] <EriC^^> heh :D
[21:57] <EriC^^> what if the bacteria is dangerous
[21:58] <EriC^^> like in the movie "life" !
[21:58] <EriC^^> they should study them in outer space not bring them back to earth, smh these scientists need to watch more hollywood movies to know a thing or two! wth! :D
[22:01] <daftykins> :D
[22:01] <daftykins> fair point
[22:02] <oerheks> i guess we all are infected now, carry on
[22:03]  * EriC^^ prepares for zombie apocalypse by ordering as many pizza's as possible
[22:06] <daftykins> i've got lots of deliveries expected this week, tomorrow could be exciting :)
[22:09] <EriC^^> goodies?
[22:09] <EriC^^> is thanksgiving celebrated in britain?
[22:09] <daftykins> nah
[22:10] <daftykins> yep, lots! the first thing i ordered is some new coaxial cable to re-do my TV services (we have roof antenna and satellite dish services here that can be tuned into)
[22:10] <daftykins> should be fun
[22:11] <EriC^^> cool!
[22:17] <EriC^^> lol
[22:18] <daftykins> i like nerding out with cabling tasks :)
[22:18] <EriC^^> i just spilled a cup that was full of coffee from the morning, i was too lazy to put a bag in the trash bin, so i poured earlier the ashtray full of cigs in the cup, now it's all on the floor
[22:18] <daftykins> D: nooooo
[22:18] <EriC^^> it smells appauling
[22:21] <oerheks> new channel rule: pic, or it didn't happen
[22:21] <oerheks> :-P
[22:25] <daftykins> ^
[22:30] <oerheks> happens to me too, often. my dealer has the ks400 and k120 in stock for me
[22:30] <oerheks> 13.99 https://www.bcc.nl/accessoires/accessoires-computer/toetsenbord/logitech-toetsenbord-k120/225879
[22:31] <oerheks> really really cheap
[22:34] <daftykins> ah ha