[07:40] morning all [09:00] https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_600562.html?wid=4&utm_source=mail_api&utm_medium=mail&utm_campaign=GB_special_171125_1511607696&eo=qg9sGukAVhqbdBHM [09:01] really cheap phone. does it suck as much as price suggests? [09:02] morning boys and girls. [09:05] i hope that 16gb rom means 16gb internal storage... [09:06] i have had a few ~100 phones. prepay jobbies on tescomobile... they work ok, for what they are. i use them as media players for podcasts and downloads. 1-2 games, 1-2 apps. nothing special. not great battery life. some shovelware [19:08] what's wrong with my tellingbone?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2A8q3XIhu0 [19:12] we used to have such a museum :( [19:18] the worst thing is when they play a catchy tune but interrupt it every 5 seconds with "we will answer your call soon" [19:19] yip :) [19:20] and speaking of compression. i did some back-of-the-envelope calculations the other day and it turns out that with modern codecs, voice comms are cheaper if i use internet data than make a call [19:21] based on 3p/minute for calling and 1p/megabyte for data [19:21] it's like 10x cheaper in fact [19:23] *nod* so often the case [19:24] its mainly due to inertia but it could lead to a sudden change in the way people use smartphones soon i think [19:29] that's why a lot of companies bundle free calling minutes [19:30] well... the thing is that with the old codecs specified by the standards calling is appropriately priced. it's just that modern codecs use less data [19:30] it works out better if they keep you calling on the voice network via subscription minutes than using voip [19:30] it doesn't though :) [19:31] foor them I mean [19:31] no, not for them [19:31] it costs about the same [19:31] in terms of "data used" [19:32] monetarily [19:32] perhaps [19:32] they earn more per minute of calling if they get you to use voice gsm [19:33] but it also increases the infrastructure costs [19:35] with 4G there's VoLTE coming down the pipe soonish which means it'll all be the same pipe (data/IP-based) rsther than voicevs data