[13:44] <jrwren> I got new disks on black friday. I'm going to redo my home storage and I can't decide if I should continue using janky LVM and just carve out mirrors from the new disks (pros: familiar)  or use md mirror (pros: simple)  or use zfs (pros: new & neato)
[14:23] <brousch> Put it all in the cloud and let Amazon worry about it
[14:42] <jrwren> *eyeroll*
[14:59] <mrgoodcat> what are you storing?
[15:00] <mrgoodcat> i haven't found i have a real need for home storage in years
[15:00] <mrgoodcat> other than a single drive i use for my local backups
[15:06] <brousch> jrwren: Yeah, actually I let Google handle it
[15:07] <mrgoodcat> yea google handles my photos
[15:07] <mrgoodcat> I also have local copies, but they just don't take up enough space to justify a NAS
[15:07] <mrgoodcat> i don't do any video or anything so my space requirements are pretty small
[15:07] <mrgoodcat> i also don't plex
[15:16] <jrwren> smh.
[15:17] <jrwren> Scary_Guy will understand.
[15:17] <jrwren> but then he'll probably tell me he uses BSD for such things. ;)
[15:19] <jrwren> storing 7.1TB of video, growing, mostly slowly.
[15:19] <mrgoodcat> plex stuff?
[15:19] <jrwren> family video
[15:19] <jrwren> i don't use plex
[15:20] <jrwren> only $167/mo for S3.  HA!
[15:20] <jrwren> so, brousch advice was terrible for me.  thanks for nothing, brousch. :p
[15:21] <brousch> Is it terrible? What price can you put on your memories?
[15:21] <jrwren> not $167/mo.
[15:21] <jrwren> its easy to put a price on memories: can I afford this? no.
[15:21] <jrwren> gee, I put a price on it.
[15:54] <cmaloney> Good morning
[15:55] <jrwren> cmaloney: good morning. What do you think about storage?
[15:55] <cmaloney> I have two Synology RAID devices in the basement for storage
[15:55] <cmaloney> and a 2TB drive in my main machine for music
[15:55] <cmaloney> It's not perfect by any stretch
[15:56] <cmaloney> I've also used md and it's pretty decent. That's what I use for my home directory on my desktop
[15:57] <cmaloney> md mirror
[16:08] <jrwren> synology is great. It is what I modeled my current LVM usage after.
[16:08] <jrwren> I guess the real question I have is: am I ready for zfs and is it ready for me?
[16:09] <jrwren> its too big an unknown. I think I'll stick with what I know and what works.
[16:21] <Scary_Guy> https://u.cubeupload.com/vAXHZK.png
[16:24] <jrwren> reiserfs it is.
[16:25] <brousch> ohmy
[16:28] <Scary_Guy> I like to look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems and compare things listing pros and cons of each.  Also, WTF is NOVA?
[16:29] <Scary_Guy> well, it sounds neat
[17:00] <cmaloney> I'm surprised Andrew Filesystem didn't catch on more
[17:01]  * cmaloney remembers seeing a presentation about Andrew File system at an Ohio Linuxfest and coming out of the presentation even more confused.
[17:10] <Scary_Guy> BTRFS still looks like the best option to me, ZFS/HAMMER are fine too
[17:43] <mrgoodcat> anybody got a mtb light they recommend? broek mine this weekend :(
[17:43] <greg-g> mountain bike?
[17:44] <greg-g> how'd it break?
[17:44] <Scary_Guy> I was just about to ask
[17:44] <mrgoodcat> dropped on the pavement
[17:44] <mrgoodcat> trying to take it off the bike that was mounted on the roofrack
[17:44] <mrgoodcat> butterfingered it
[17:45] <Scary_Guy> ouch, and that ruined it?  I'd avoid that brand
[17:45] <mrgoodcat> well i mean
[17:45] <mrgoodcat> its like a 12 foot drop
[17:45] <mrgoodcat> onto concrete
[17:45] <mrgoodcat> maybe not 12
[17:45] <mrgoodcat> but 9 at least
[17:45] <Scary_Guy> 6 at most probably, I'm taller than most car roofs
[17:46] <mrgoodcat> are you taller than a suburban with a bike on it?
[17:47] <Scary_Guy> I'm close, but probably not bike rack/bike on it no
[17:47] <Scary_Guy> anyway Pelican makes some great lights.  Not for the bike, just in general.  I guess you could duct tape it to the bars though :p
[17:47] <mrgoodcat> how fuckin tall are you?
[17:48] <mrgoodcat> just the truck is 6ft + rack + bike
[17:49] <mrgoodcat>  lol pelican doesn't make any with bar mounts?
[17:49] <mrgoodcat> oh i see they're a hardware brand
[17:49] <mrgoodcat> work lights and such
[17:53] <jrwren> i guess his height at 6'5"
[17:53] <Scary_Guy> close, 6'3"
[17:54] <Scary_Guy> taller than many but still fairly average
[17:54] <jrwren> the hat adds 2 inches?
[17:54] <Scary_Guy> I could probably be a CEO of a company because of my boobs, I mean height
[17:55] <jrwren> or POTUS!
[17:55] <Scary_Guy> also the cowboy boots have about an inch of a heel
[17:55] <Scary_Guy> that too
[17:56] <Scary_Guy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_vcy7I0zIM
[18:04] <cmaloney> Yeah, Scary_Guy is taller than I am
[18:04] <Scary_Guy> and my dick's bigger too :p
[18:05] <cmaloney> Ahem.
[18:05]  * jrwren points to the CoC
[18:06] <Scary_Guy> chamber of commerce?
[18:06] <jrwren> https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/conduct
[18:07] <Scary_Guy> https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Offended :p (nsfw, obviously)
[18:09] <jrwren> I prefer the stephen fry offended diatribes
[18:10] <Scary_Guy> I like Stephen Fry in general
[18:13] <Scary_Guy> http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/welcome-to-the-internet was good too, that rant is legendary
[18:17] <Scary_Guy> https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt is classic, but outdated.
[18:17] <Scary_Guy> personally I'm very libertarian on things and think the free exchange of ideas is paramount.  Also there is always room for a good joke as long as it's all in good fun
[18:19] <Scary_Guy> but to each their own and I respect the conservative nature of official channels such as this.  this isn't 4chan/reddit after all
[18:20] <cmaloney> ty
[18:20] <jrwren> i was only reminding, not chastizing.
[18:21] <jrwren> no lines crossed, just acknowledging getting close to a grey area.
[18:21] <jrwren> I thought it was a funny joke, but I don't know if everyone would take it the same way.
[18:21] <jrwren> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XOaYMkz5Cc makes me laugh every time.
[18:23] <Scary_Guy> I think most people on IRC are mature enough to see it as such
[19:00] <greg-g> at the same time, it's not the most welcoming of language to non-male-locker-room-desensitized people. :/
[23:56] <jrwren> whoo hoo! new cable modem docsis 3!