[00:00] I'm running an ubuntu server on a VM, trying to conect to it from outside my LAN, everything works inside my LAN and I have the firewall and router forwarded but I keep getting a connection timeout when trying to connect to it [00:00] Any ideas? [00:01] I have an idea; a hamburger patty between two slices of pizza would be delicious. [00:04] Awesome response but I'm full. [00:04] I got it. [00:04] thanks. [00:17] when I am in gnome terminal and it sees a link - if I click on it it opens chrome - does any one know how to specifiy which browser is open when click on link in gnome terminal so it opens firefox? [00:23] michael2: open settings/details/default applications and select Firefox as default [00:27] michael2: or you can set the default browser in xresources [00:34] Anyone know a complete guide on exactly how adduser works? [00:34] I'm trying to figure out where the parts of a new user's files that don't come from the skel come from. [00:34] man adduser? [00:35] man adduser [00:35] oops [00:35] "man adduser" doesn't seem to go into that sort of detail. [00:36] info adduser [00:36] If the file /usr/local/sbin/adduser.local exists, it will be executed after [00:36] the user account has been set up in order to do any local setup. [00:36] ponyrider: hey they did it thanks :) do you know if its possible to do that from the comand line? [00:37] bcowan: look at useradd, that is more linux generic [00:38] bcowan, that's definitely helpful, but it doesn't actually answer the question I just asked; how does adduser actually do its job, and where do the unspecified files come from? [00:38] michael2: do what from the command line? [00:38] set the default browser [00:39] michael2: set the mimetypes [00:39] Tenacious-Techhu, what other files are you talking about [00:40] i think ubuntu is /etc/mime.types ..? [00:40] bcowan, skel specifies some files, but there's a lot that aren't specified that get created anyway... [00:40] michael2: ^ [00:40] Where do those come from? [00:40] lots of settings from gnome etc get added the first time you log into a session [00:41] ponyrider: you mean in ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list ? [00:41] michael2: that would be your user specific override, not systemwide. you could edit that though [00:50] ponyrider: didnt have any success with those file, but this command lists the default: xdg-mime query default text/html [00:51] michael2: are you using 'xdg-open' to open the file? [00:56] in this case im just clicking on links that appear in gnome-terminal [00:57] ponyrider: your GUI solution works so I'll just go with that rather than spending any more time trying to get a shell command to work === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [01:10] i just discovered ubuntu from windows 10 app store [01:11] is it like a virtual box thing? [01:11] or is it running ubuntu natively? [01:11] yes [01:11] which [01:11] mativ [01:12] thats amazing [01:12] much better than using putty [01:12] i was sick of putty [01:14] cnnx is a subsystem in windows 10 is actually ubuntu is not like virtualbox [01:14] Krennic: so direct access to the hardware? [01:15] microsoft is doing great things [01:15] combining my love of linux with windows [01:15] ponyrider: found the file - its ~/.config/mimeapps.list and when you modify default browser through the GUI this is the file that gets changed [01:17] Krennic: interestingly enough if i run the top command from within the ubuntu subsystem it doesn't show me the processes that task manager in win10 would show me [01:17] just the userspace local linux pid [01:18] is it not sharing the same memory space? [01:20] is like runing both oerating systems from your computer at the same time what you do in ubuntu is in ubuntu and what you do in windows in in windows [01:21] tu see linux aplication you need to use xming [01:21] server [01:23] you dont gonna see the linux files cause they are hidding but i suggest you not to try to touch them you can mess up your pc [01:26] cnnx the subsystem is use from you own computer as i said is like runing both operating systems in at the same time in you computer === DaemonFC` is now known as DaemonFC [01:53] If I edit a skel to have some subdirectories in order to place a file to overwrite on the creation of a new account, will the otherwise empty subdirectories overwrite the populated directories, or will those directories not be overwritten? [02:08] Somehow I got back my desktop with application launching enabled. But fonts in desktop icons, widows etc are tiny. How to restore please? [02:53] I have a radeon hd 6310 that all this box will ever do is play netflix and youtube. Can someone help me try to get the video not so choppy? [02:54] Under windows it plays just fine so I know that the gpu can handle it but windows 10 is just so sluggish for this machine. Ubuntu feels so much faster but just not as great support for video drivers [02:54] anything that you need just let me know [03:24] Wow the gnome channel sucks [03:24] I'm glad this channel exists [03:28] I think I am not recieving updates, for example my firefox is listed as version 54.0 while the current version is listed as 57. The software updater runs, and reports all software is up to date. I have also tried apt-get clean, apt-get update then apt-get upgrade, this also tells me that all the software on the system is up to date. I have searched around, but havent found any results to this particular issue. Any ideas? === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [03:34] sharpish: What release are you running ? [03:35] Bashing-om, 16.04 [03:36] sorry 16.10 [03:37] sharpish: 16.10 is end of live and gets no updates .. as the repo is closed down . [03:37] ahhhhh [03:38] !16.10 | sharpish [03:38] sharpish: Ubuntu Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) was the 25th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 20th, 2017. See !eol, !eolupgrade and https://ubottu.com/y/yakkety [03:39] Bashing-om, The thought never crossed my mind it was eol. Thanks! [03:40] sharpish: Happens , get current asap . 16.04 is the present LTS release , [03:42] sharpish: going forward in your case is 17.04 - 17.10 . [03:43] Bashing-om, I will do now. Thanks again! [03:44] sharpish: Np .. help where I can :) [03:46] Bashing-om, you know anything about skels? [03:47] any noticeable differences between 16.04 and 17.10 [03:52] Tenacious-Techhu: hances are not .. as I do not recognize the term skels . [03:53] chances* [04:06] Tenacious-Techhu, you mean like /etc/skel ? [04:12] How can I insert the invisible new line ASCII 10 in Ubuntu? [04:13] Would Ctrl + Shift + U0010 do the trick? [04:13] Guys does anybody get notifications when somebody DM's you using Hexchat in ubuntu gnome 16.04? I have to contantly be checking the client since I never get a notification.. :( [04:17] Decimal 10 is a Line Feed. (The ascii table from man ascii is wrong.) [04:18] Newline is actually an LF coupled with a CR [04:22] apb1963, yes, that is what I mean; I'm new to dealing with skels, and I'm not sure how to use them properly. [04:26] planigan, Why do you want to do that? [04:26] planigan, sorry, wrong nick [04:27] Tenacious-Techhu, I haven't used them, but afaik you just create and/or modify the files there and the system will do the rest when you add a user. Have you tried? [04:31] apb1963, my concern is this... if I need to make a bunch of subdirectories in order to put a file in the required place, will the emptiness of those directories then overwrite the existing layout, or will only the existing file overwrite? And, if so, how would you then enforce overwriting with empty subdirectories if that is what you wanted? [04:37] hey [04:38] I have a dino, this thing is basically about to be oil - the version of crunchbang (defunct) too - is there a ubuntu package for checking system specs/hardware? [04:38] stevie: inxi? [04:39] do I need to compile it [04:39] no [04:39] there's also screenfetch [04:40] oh true, this might have screenfetch [04:40] nop [04:41] so I can't apt-get inxi [04:41] oh I see the ppa [04:43] the ppa 404'd [04:43] https://github.com/KittyKatt/screenFetch you could grab the script manually [04:43] hardinfo worked [05:39] Drone, you are broken [05:52] hello guys, question regarding running ubuntu bash on win and trying to open files through terminal? is it possible? also: is there a way to show images INSIDE the terminal if the bash cannot access the win file sys? [05:55] Hello guys I've a problem, I cant use Single Click on nautilus file manager, even Single click option activated on preference, I'm using Ubuntu 17.10 gnome DE, Nautilus 3.26.0 [05:55] some help, i ran into this problem [05:55] https://dpaste.de/wtZc [05:56] i tried installing libpq-dev, still no luck [05:57] how do I hide all snap packages in gnome-software? [05:57] i only want to see debs [06:23] thepardoxer02: it sounds like you added some ppa or something that has some updated versions, which conflict with the rest. Try disabling that PPA and restoring ubuntu versions for all your packages. [06:33] morning alkisg [06:33] Good morning lotuspsychje, hi all! :) [06:39] what could cause an IRC client to freeze, but only if I go to a specific channel? [06:39] edisonbulb: broken client + script kiddies playing.. try kvirc instead of hexchat :P [06:40] so that must mean that there are script kiddies messing around on ##linux [06:40] edisonbulb: I'm there, nothing weird happening at the moment [06:40] hmm [06:41] weird [06:41] i'll try switching clients & see what happens [06:42] edisonbulb: what client? [06:42] hexchat as Triffid_Hunter said (idrk how he knew that though) [06:43] edisonbulb: because that's the one that folks always seem to have performance issues with, also it's the only one installed by default on ubuntu last time I checked :P [06:44] there needs to be a website devoted completely to crowdsourced open source software reviews -- focusing mainly on the stability and correctness of the programs rather than how "user-friendly" they are [06:45] omg i need to stop posting everything that pops into my head -_- [06:45] edisonbulb: there is. Their bug trackers. [06:45] Did you post any "review" there? [06:45] i would if i knew what to complain about in my review ;) [06:45] !bug [06:45] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [06:46] See, that easy. [06:46] You say "I tried to join that channel and it hanged" [06:46] And you give feedback whenever asked about it [06:46] the thing is it didn't hang when i tried to join that channel two hours ago :o [06:47] There are bugs that are not always reproducible [06:47] That doesn't mean that they shouldn't be reported [06:47] hmm never thought of that... how does one go about fixing a non-reproducable bug? now I'm just curious lol [06:49] hey! guys, which software allow save screenshots to cloud (dropbox at windows has this functionality)? [06:49] xfce desktop [06:49] edisonbulb: An example? Suppose that you report the bug, and the developer thinks, "ah it's that realloc() that I was doing for the users list, which happens when little RAM is available, let's fix it now that someone was actually affected by it" [06:49] oop, found another thing to "review"... right clicking a hyperlink and hitting "open in browser" does nothing [06:50] Right, so start reviewing already [06:50] :) [06:53] it cannot be a coincidence that every package I have problems with was installed with snap [07:01] https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/2098 [07:01] https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/2097 [07:02] bugs submitted. also kvirc's scripting feature gets in the way of authentication bc my password contains a dollar sign [07:02] edisonbulb: should work with the auto nickserv auth thingy? [07:10] i am trying to make a mongoserver, i am getting this error https://dpaste.de/qMh5 , i google and find out that i need to install libpq-dev, but it is already installed in my system === juboxi is now known as jubo2 [08:18] Hi! [08:19] I can close tor see this link http://storage2.static.itmages.com/i/17/1127/h_1511770761_6041895_3415b842c0.png [08:20] killed process of tor and this couldn't help [08:21] how did you kill it? [08:22] ducasse: see it, I found new http://storage6.static.itmages.com/i/17/1127/h_1511770951_4966103_0b0d0138b4.png [08:23] I killed using system monitor [08:23] Neo3: look for firefox-bin too [08:23] err, actually no, disregard that. ignore me [08:25] see I run tor, but it doesn't appear on launch panel, When I focus other window, tor is disappearing [08:25] Neo3: try 'kill -9 11504 10654' [08:26] ducasse: I killed, he launch but doesn't show in panel [08:26] http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/17/1127/h_1511771154_6838224_dd3c485d00.png [08:27] ducasse: when I press hide window '-' he'll wholly disappear and I'll can't find it [08:28] ducasse: do you use tor? [08:28] can't help you with that, i don't use gnome. wait for someone who knows it. [08:28] ubuntu software is broken too [08:30] I was installing chore and when press on .deb archive should be run 'ubuntu software' but this didn't work from begin, and why it run if I made ' sudo apt remove ubuntu-software ', it should be disappeared [08:31] there seems two apps, ubuntu-software and software-center [08:31] software-center is old, and new ubuntu-softwre [08:31] new is broken [08:31] don't use software center, use gnome software instead. or just install from command line, you get more control. [08:32] yes I installed tore from comand line and everything is installing using it [08:34] but software center is not bad too, there list of app, and you can seek what you need. [08:34] Where you find the needed apps? [08:34] I need editor for open psd files, for make html markup [08:34] GIMP [08:35] and for SVG I use Ilustrator [08:35] Neo3: There's Inkscape for vector graphics [08:36] hateball: and for rastr graphics? [08:38] hateball: I need only editor that will open Photoshop PSD, I watched video there people use GIMP [08:41] then try gimp, see if/how well it works [08:43] ducasse: it's supported psd [08:43] http://storage4.static.itmages.com/i/17/1127/h_1511772200_1275153_ca8f69bd2a.png [08:45] of course for designers who well know photoshop it's not suit, but I don't know photoshop, only get from psd sometimes images and squeeze image sizes "save for web" [08:45] Neo3: please stop posting screenshots when they're not necessary [08:45] ok [08:48] what terminal is better use? [08:48] in video I saw there people use 'terminator' [08:48] but I like more old [08:49] depends what you like and need [08:49] and what something for ssh, in windows I use pussy [08:50] for ssh you just use a terminal and the normal openssh client [08:50] ducasse: dont know still, see in windows for edit and record video I use camtasio studio, and now I can record video in linux save file to common disc, reboot in vindows and continue use camtasio.... The same with photoshop [08:53] common disc accessible for windows and for ubuntu. Yesterday I though put my passwords to google disc and then load in ubunty, today tried specify path to old file and all my password started work. [08:53] Shortly all my disc data accessible, in both OS ) I though will only 20Gb accessible. === gr33n7007h is now known as al2o3-cr [09:02] I guested where tor disappeared, he places to firefox icon [09:02] all right work [09:51] I use ALSA for sound , but in the morning no sound, can you help me to understand why? I don't know where to start checking [09:54] vahe1: are you sure its not muted? [09:55] TaZeR: https://lut.im/niW9pfhsik/aSklgM8sR00Zqd4m.png [09:56] https://lut.im/qri10KTOBy/O0wN249H33XdH6jK.png [10:07] how get all directories in correct way [10:07] I use it $ ls -d */ [10:09] I have a freshly reinstalled PC with ubuntu 17.10. Whenever I play anything I can hear high pitched clicks at random intervals. When I've switched output from pulse to alsa on music player (deadbeef) the problem goes away. Did not have this issue on 16.04. Any ideas on how to fix this? [10:10] Neo3: $ ls -d [path] should do it, a path is optional. If you want to research your options do $man ls [10:12] Thunder_Tw: ls -d doesn't work, I tired, with */ only work [10:13] Neo3: what exactly are you trying to do [10:13] Neo3: yeah i've been playing on OpenComputers a bit too much. [10:13] Ben64: create file in apache2/available-sites [10:13] Neo3: uh, how does that relate to listing directories [10:13] I try to navigate to that folder [10:13] cd /etc/apache2/sites-available [10:14] Ben64: I want navigate there and create file [10:15] Neo3: find . -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d [10:15] Eh, sorry, I didn't read the context after the initial question. Yeah, cd and for autocomplete is fine :) [10:15] Ben64: I want to create file subdomain.example.com.conf ? [10:16] alkisg: find / -type f -name file_name.txt [10:17] Neo3: could be called anything really [10:19] Neo3: $ ls -D [path] with a capital D seems to be used on Ubuntu, my mistake. [10:20] Thunder_Tw: no doesn't work -d and -D, only ls -d */ [10:22] Neo3: ls -d */ is the same as echo */, it's handled by bash, not by ls [10:22] Find is the correct command to find files or directories [10:23] understood [10:31] alkisg: see if we're doing */ we don't get list dirs, should do with ls -d */ [10:32] if we do* [10:32] we won't get [10:33] Neo3: echo */ [10:33] Lists dirs [10:33] Neo3: anyway, gotta go, good luck [10:33] alkisg: well, bye === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk [10:36] I think I misconfigured my zesty; it's a qemu guest here and connects to the internet through NAT. I have this weird thing where I can dig domain, ping remote ip but not ping domain... [10:38] this is just weird. so 8.8.8.8 and 208.67.222.222 work, but the nameservers I have on my host (including 192.168.122.1 which is my host) don't... [10:41] the guest nat is most likely not on the same subnet [10:41] how is that weird? dns servers work as dns servers but your computer doesn't? [10:48] the guest net is 192.168.122* [10:49] so why would those mainstream servers work? [10:50] because they are functioning dns servers? [10:50] and why is dns on my host working? [10:52] I'm not exactly sure I'm able to find out what the problem is. [10:53] i don't think i understand your question [10:53] mar77i: describe what you expect to be happening [11:04] I expect ping google.com and system upgrade (because the *.archive.ubuntu.com cannot be found) to work with the same resolv.conf as on the host, or at least find out how I can figure out why it doesn't. [11:04] hey [11:04] I am on 16.04 [11:04] Ubuntu 16.04 [11:04] Unity [11:04] I have a command running as root for quite some time: updatedb.mlocat [11:04] it's making my cpu hot as it's using a core at 100% [11:04] Honestly this nickserv script used by the drone is completely broken [11:04] is this command necessary? [11:04] is there anything on the pc that uses the locate command? (maybe unity) [11:04] hey guys. I'm getting DNS leaks on Ubuntu 17.10 using a VPN. Any advice on dealing with it would be appreciated [11:04] ThinkT510: was that detailed enough? [11:05] respawn1: lennart poettering, pbuh, hails that systemd-resolved shall be hard-wired to use 8.8.8.8 if the dns server you want to use takes too long to respond [11:06] ltx128: you just helped me solve my problem. of course. [11:07] thanks for making me aware of my lennart-radar [11:07] ltx128: far be it for me to question the almighty poettering === [Ben] is now known as MrC [11:10] ...so I disabled systemd-resolved, added my opennic resolvers and it's working... [11:11] even across reboots. which is nice. [11:11] it was unpleasant learning the idiosyncrasies of dnsmasq.. going through this fun all again :D [11:13] mar77i: did disabling systemd-resolved.service without opennic work? [11:15] respawn1: well you do have to add a valid nameserver to resolv.conf, which the gateway can probably do (virtual machine host or isp router) [11:16] I'm not saying the problem is blond and gawky, but sometimes he's making it hard to think otherwise. [11:16] mar77i: thanks. will try it out [11:17] guy if I place in bin folder file with name sites and put there #cd /var/www/ , I get www folder? [11:18] respawn1: be aware that you have to manage resolv.conf now, because otherwise that service should have managed it for you. [11:18] mar77i: understood (albeit frustratingly) [11:18] in from any place? As I understand in bin folder places all files that run with one string in terminal [11:19] I can't believe these sorts of issues are still present in 2017 [11:20] the caged init experience appears to be here to stay. [11:20] that is we should probably report more bugs [11:22] respawn1: having mentioned opennic though, taking control over one's dns resolving is sure better than telling google or some other company one hop away from the government where you go search for porn. [11:26] mar77i:yup, been using opennic for a while on my own machine [11:27] I create /bin/test and put there this row #! echo hello, saved and called $ test and nothing happen [11:27] i'm suddenly having trouble displayng pages properly in firefox, especially text. Anyone know of this problem? [11:28] Neo3: read up on how shebangs work [11:28] mar77i: I'll do [11:28] the first line should probably be some variation of #!/bin/bash [11:28] for run bush I saw it [11:29] #! /bin/bash [11:29] echo hello [11:29] Well, [11:29] do you really need that space? [11:30] My disk is full and I've tried to delete a massive 38Gb log file, however Syslog-NG currently has the file open. I've tried to restart the syslog-ng service but that fails. What's my next step? [11:30] also, /bin/test in particular is probably occupied by an implementation of the builtin with the same name. you should create your own ~/src/bash/test and run it from ~/src/bash as ./test [11:32] ~/src and in this folder every files will available from terminal only use one string? [11:32] !# /bin/bush [11:32] echo 'hello' [11:32] Doesn't work [11:33] 12:29 < mar77i> do you really need that space? << I asked because I'm not sure you're allowed to add a space after the !. that said, you probably need to make it executable too: chmod +x test [11:34] Neo3: what exactly are you trying to do [11:34] also keep in mind that you are usually advised not to have . in the path, that means you have to specifically add a relative path ./test or an absolute path ~/src/test [11:34] Ben64: run first scrip for example [11:34] just trying how it work [11:35] I'll do it later [11:35] well [11:35] Neo3: I expect you to tell me what about the last two lines you tried. [11:36] mar77i: do like we put in terminal 'echo hello and we'll get hello [11:36] it's terminal comman echo [11:37] I thought that script like terminal [11:37] no, it's a shell command. and that same shell comes with a built-in test command that will probably run instead of /bin/test [11:37] or ./test, but I hope you haven't tried to make that work. [11:38] yes I won't, Do it later, [11:39] mar77i: much info http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_02_01.html [11:40] to give you a piece of advice that might change the course of your life: join #bash and get off tldp. :) [11:41] I don't know what it is [11:41] quote from that channel: "The TLDP bash guides are outdated, and in some cases just plain wrong." [11:41] I'll configure LAMP [11:41] understood [11:42] I tired this commands rm, mkdir, rm -r dir, touch filename [11:42] for file name we use touch [11:43] I tired this sudo vim test and vim not run [11:43] in ubuntu all use nano? [11:43] everybody use nano in ubuntu? [11:44] mar77i: see I'll manage VPS using SSH, what editor I should use? [11:44] you can use whatever you want. but you are required to minimally know your way around the cli or graphical package manager. :) [11:45] wlll, understood, it's personal preferences... [11:45] I'll use nano === SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL === jstein_ is now known as jstein [11:51] hello [11:51] 0% [Connecting to 192.168.10.254 (192.168.10.254)] [11:51] what the hell apt is still using a proxy? [11:51] very nervous problem [11:51] i do not have any /etc/apt/apt.conf [12:00] Hi guys, how do I upgrade from 16.04 LTS server to 17.10 server? [12:04] ajhansen: afaik you can't unless you touch things manually and with uncertain consecuences, as in you can upgrade from LTS to LTS but if you jump from LTS to non-LTS you have to go version by version, someone please correct me if I'm wrong [12:05] ajhansen: type suo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and make sure Prompt=normal then run sudo do-release-upgrade [12:05] *sudo nano [12:06] EriC^^: okay cool. Also thanks ezra-s - but will this have weird consequences? [12:06] Hi All. I had 16.04 and was getting really slow screen refresh over VNC with no CPU usage. I decided to update to 17.10 to try to fix it, and now the VNC server doesn't seem to work at all. In the process, I also removed ubuntu-desktop, unity, and replaced with ubuntu-gnome-desktop . Can anyone give me an idea of where to start? [12:08] ajhansen: oh i just remembered, you wont get to 17.10 i think, it'll jump to 17.04 then you'll have to upgrade again to get 17.10 (which will become unsupported in july 2018) [12:13] ajhansen: unexpected errors while upgrading? version conflicts? not too long ago you should just change /etc/apt/sources.list do apt-get update then upgrade then dist-upgrade and reboot, you are welcome to try and let us how it worked for you :) [12:14] ezra-s: okay ill give it a shot :) [12:14] esra-s: I'll let ya know in a bit [12:16] ezra-s: it's just a private dev server so it's not that important [12:17] ajhansen: probably you would spend less time making a new install hehe [12:17] yeah but if I could avoid setting nginx up again I'd be nice.. I know there's a risk still but well :P [12:18] ezra-s: it could be nice to know if it's worth the time :) [12:19] Howdy folks [12:19] BluesKaj: howdy :) [12:20] Hi ajhansen === Guest81985 is now known as Doc-Saintly [12:22] ajhansen: ezra-s dont change /etc/apt/sources.list and dist-upgrade , it's known to break ubuntu (or so people say that), it's different than debian's approach to release upgrading [12:22] do-release-upgrade is the ubuntu way ™ [12:23] EriC^^: do-release-upgrade asks to change sources.list to zesty itself.. so I really see no need for changing it manually [12:23] ajhansen: ah right, since 16.10 is eol you need to do that and then run do-release-upgrade [12:23] !eolupgrades | ajhansen [12:23] ajhansen: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [12:23] EriC^^: yes, that's what I tried to say when I mentioned "unexpected results", probably not the best way [12:24] I changed /etc/update-manager/release-upgrade to Prompt=normal and it's running now - so far so good [12:25] EriC^^: can you confirm if he can do 16.04 -> 17.10 jump directly? [12:25] You can't it seems [12:25] it jumps to 16.10 first [12:25] alrighty then, that confirms it [12:25] so i probabply have to run it 3 times in total [12:25] ajhansen, hope you updated/upgraded your existing packages first [12:26] 16.04=>16.10=>17.04=>17.10 [12:26] they we're fully updated [12:26] :) [12:26] good [12:26] ajhansen: you shouldn't have to change any sources.list to upgrade to 16.10 i think [12:26] EriC^^: i didn't, but do-release-upgrade did [12:26] oh ok [12:27] no need to change the sources.list m do-release-upgrade takes care of that [12:27] honestly i think you'd be better off with a fresh install [12:27] BluesKaj: exactly [12:27] it actually asks if you want to [12:27] :P [12:27] it would be way easier [12:28] and would take less time indeed :) [12:28] ajhansen: for future reference it is good to have a separate /home filesystem, so you can just re-install everything and you can keep all your data you need there or in a backup directory [12:29] ezra-s: duely noted, I'm not at all expirenced but I see your point - I'm just concerned that I'll run out of space on one partition [12:30] EriC`^^: probabply will due to the separation of filesystems [12:32] ajhansen: LVM can help you resize your partitions if you run out of space in one, and there is enough free space in disk to assign. But you can go super simple and assign a lot to / and the rest for /home (not mentioning swap or any other you may need like /boot/efi) [12:35] ezra-s: its a Linode VPS [12:51] ezra-s: When changing from LTS to normal releases it upgrades to the first normal at first, second time it skips 17.04 apparently [12:53] ajhansen: oh, nice [12:54] I will do a complete install in a few days to get the partitions separated but that's also since I get a dedicated server by then [13:29] Greetings all [13:30] I just installed Ubuntu a couple weeks ago and so far loving it! [13:30] hiho, i am trying to mount a network share to /mnt/share and symlink it to tow different user's desktops who should each be able to read/write(/execute). In /etc/fstab i am using the credentials option + uid and gid of the first user. The second user was added to the first users group for testing purposes. file permissions in the symlinked folder on user2's desktop show that user1 (who is the owner uid=1001) can read/write, but user2 can only read the [13:30] files (-rwxr-xr-x 1 1001 1001). I was wondering what i'd have to do to make it 775 instead of 755 [13:30] But being an orphan of winblows, some things are unfamiliar [13:31] Is there any way to use quickbooks thru an imulator or such? [13:32] That one program is the only thing keeping windows on my other laptop [13:34] Chilestuff, hi, ppl who run windows software on linux more often than not use wine to do so, see https://www.winehq.org/ [13:35] Thanks [13:36] Chilestuff: Not sure how representative this is: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=120 [13:37] I'd see if there's a wine IRC channel or forum and ask about other experiences before giving up on that idea! [13:37] hmm [13:37] Fighures [13:38] Gold or better for all but the one I have :/ [13:38] Which version do you have? [13:38] 2013 pro [13:39] The sample size is VERY small and Wine itself might have undergone changes, hence my recommendation to ask around (regardless). [13:39] Good idea either way [13:40] I think I have wine already, at least for games [13:40]