[09:56] <popey> wxl: you haven't accepted my invitation to be a mentor yet
[12:11] <mallen> how do I add mentors to one of my tasks? Or do I have to get them to add themselves?
[15:05] <popey> mallen: i can add them
[15:05] <popey> mallen: want me to add balloons?
[15:06] <popey> (once he signs in) :D
[15:06] <wxl> ahhh thanks for the reminder popey sorry!
[15:06] <popey> No problemo!
[15:07] <popey> Well hello thar!
[15:08] <popey> balloons: wanna see if you can add yourself as a mentor? if not, let me know and I can
[15:15] <balloons> popey, it seems I cannot
[15:15] <popey> Ok, so want me to add you to all of mallen's ones?
[15:15] <balloons> yes please :-)
[15:17] <popey> on it
[15:19] <popey> oooh, i can do it en-masse
[15:19] <popey> and have done
[16:16] <wxl> popey: can i add tasks AFTER the opening?
[16:16] <popey> Of course, most welcome
[16:17] <popey> In fact we're almost certainly going to _need_ more as we exhaust the ones we have
[16:17] <wxl> ok cool. i'm a little behind on this but i definitely have things to add and just needed to know whether or not i had only an hour XD
[17:19] <sh4dow> hello!
[17:20] <sh4dow> there's a task named "install ubuntu 17.10"
[17:20] <sh4dow> i'm on 16.04. if i upgrade, does it count as a valid one?
[17:21] <wxl> sh4dow: link me to the task, please
[17:21] <sh4dow> i'm on 16.04. if i upgrade, does it count as a valid one?wxl:
[17:22] <sh4dow> oops
[17:22] <sh4dow> https://codein.withgoogle.com/tasks/6213665139195904/?sp-organization=5133577048031232
[17:22] <wxl> 1s
[17:23] <wxl> balloons: you a boot?
[17:24] <wxl> sh4dow: balloons is the mentor for that task (one of them), so i'd confirm with him, but if it were me, i would suggest that an upgrade would suffice as long as you made sure to use new install media to do the upgrade.
[17:24] <balloons> I'm not a bot, no
[17:24] <wxl> balloons: no, a boot. sorry, too close to canada. ABOUT ;)
[17:24] <balloons> :p
[17:25] <balloons> wxl, I heard that in perfect BC english
[17:25] <wxl> XD
[17:25] <balloons> sh4dow, just make sure you show you used new media
[17:25] <sh4dow> i'm using "apt-get dist-upgrade" right now to upgrade it
[17:25] <sh4dow> i guess i'll install it on VM
[17:26] <balloons> we want you to experience using the live cd
[17:26] <sh4dow> i am using ubuntu 16.04 as my primary os already
[17:26] <wxl> yeah no dist-upgrade wouldn't use any of the tutorial at all
[17:26] <wxl> so as long as you use the tutorial for that purpose, i think that would actually be a nice edge case to cover
[17:26] <wxl> also dist-upgrade only upgrades packages, not the version
[17:26] <wxl> you'd want do-release-upgrade for that
[17:26] <sh4dow> oh
[17:27] <wxl> but don't do that :)
[17:27] <sh4dow> yeah i will
[17:27] <sh4dow> after doing dist-upgrade
[17:27] <wxl> dist-upgrade is just like upgrade but it gives the system permission to remove packages
[17:27] <wxl> at least those that are no longer needed
[17:27] <sh4dow> ah okay
[17:27] <popey> Yeah, we should add a task for upgrades
[17:27] <sh4dow> for the task, i will install it in VM, then. is it valid then?
[17:27] <popey> But these tasks are specifically clean installs.
[17:27] <wxl> well the tutorial SHOULD cover that, no?
[17:28] <wxl> (i admit to not having looked over the tutorials)
[17:28] <wxl> sh4dow: yes, that's mentioned in the task
[17:28] <sh4dow> okay. thank you all!
[17:29] <ILoveVIM> hello guys
[17:29] <ILoveVIM> i am foss
[17:29] <ILoveVIM> asia
[17:29] <ILoveVIM> lol
[17:29] <ILoveVIM> za
[17:29] <ILoveVIM> lolo
[17:29] <wxl> i see. and apparently you love vim, too.
[17:30] <popey> vim is indeed awesome.
[17:30] <ILoveVIM> vim is the best editor in universe
[17:31] <ILoveVIM> You can ride vim as unicorn
[17:33] <sh4dow> he's an Arch user
[17:33] <ILoveVIM> wtf
[17:33] <sh4dow> kick him :P (i know him)
[17:33] <ILoveVIM> how do you know this
[17:35] <ILoveVIM> SA:sdA:asd:asdASD:SD
[17:35] <ILoveVIM> A:das
[17:35] <ILoveVIM> ASD.asd:asdA:SdASD:DAS.
[17:36] <wxl> ILoveVIM: please stop.
[17:41] <ILoveVIM> ok sir.
[17:41] <ILoveVIM> I love unicorns too
[17:41] <ILoveVIM> But there is no place in my name for unicorns
[18:07] <flexiondotorg> nano ftw!
[18:07] <wxl>  /kick * @flexiondotorg
[18:07] <wxl> oops
[18:08]  * flexiondotorg shakes fist at wxl 
[18:09] <wxl> as i've said before, nano is good for inputting text
[18:09] <wxl> but it's not a text editor
[18:09] <wxl> it's like a terminal wordpad
[19:16] <m4sk1n> completed my first (begineer) task
[19:16] <MaskyS> m4sk1n: nice!
[19:16] <m4sk1n> yay :D
[19:16] <wxl> congrats m4sk1n you are now officially an ubuntu contributor
[19:16] <m4sk1n> do you really think that I wasn't one before? :D
[19:17] <m4sk1n> (just minor translations contribution)
[19:18] <wxl> oh well
[19:18] <wxl> now you're a more diverse one? :)
[19:22] <m4sk1n> yup, I'm waiting for review now
[19:24] <MaskyS> m4sk1n: cool.
[19:26] <MaskyS> sergiusens: Hello btw, sergiusens. Look forward to working with you
[19:26] <MaskyS> Btw guys, do we have an IRC chatbot here?
[19:26] <MaskyS> ubot9: hey
[19:26] <MaskyS> ubot93: hello
[19:26] <sergiusens> MaskyS hello! Feel free to reach out on anything to make things go smooth
[19:27] <MaskyS> ubuntulog3: hello
[19:27] <MaskyS> sergiusens: Are the chatbots functional on this channel? Could you point me to any guides/ man pages for using them?
[19:28] <MaskyS> ubot93: help
[19:28] <MaskyS> ubot93: commands?
[19:28] <MaskyS> ubot93: irc?
[19:28] <MaskyS> ubot93: !patience
[19:29] <ppabcd> Hello
[19:29] <sergiusens> MaskyS I don't work or manage any of the bots here
[19:29] <MaskyS> ppabcd: hello :)
[19:29] <sergiusens> ppabcd hello
[19:29] <ppabcd> :))
[19:29] <MaskyS> sergiusens: oh, okay. I'll see if I can find anything on the forums.
[19:30] <sergiusens> MaskyS what in particular are you looking for?
[19:30] <MaskyS> sergiusens: logging and/or any other commands the bots may possess. For example, one of my favourite chatbots has a reminder feature.
[19:31] <sergiusens> MaskyS oh, I don't think this bots are stateful
[19:32] <sergiusens> ppabcd when he joins, you would want to reach out to davidcalle or elopio wrt tutorial translations
[19:32] <m4sk1n> !ball
[19:32] <MaskyS> sergiusens: oh okay.
[19:32] <m4sk1n> ubot93: !ball
[19:33] <m4sk1n> !magic8ball
[19:33] <ppabcd> my translation in my language xd http://prntscr.com/hghg9u
[19:33] <m4sk1n> !42
[19:34] <sergiusens> popey flexiondotorg do you know if anyone else can mentor tutorial translations?
[19:34] <m4sk1n> !hugme
[19:35] <popey> m4sk1n: please leave the bots alone. They're trying to sleep
[19:35] <m4sk1n> ok :)
[19:36] <popey> sergiusens: tricky. Maybe davidcalle?
[19:37] <sergiusens> popey yeah, I can think he would know, but not sure he is mentoring at all
[19:41] <sergiusens> ppabcd so how far are you with the translation task? Have you picked a tutorial?
[19:42] <ppabcd> hmm 59 line today
[19:42] <ppabcd> and i pick how to install ubuntu desktop
[19:43] <m4sk1n> elopio: when will you review my task? I won't rush you, just curious…
[19:43] <ppabcd> hmm i want ask something. I get text about button in Ubuntu windows for example button "try the Ubuntu desktop" in first installation. do i have to translate it too?
[19:44] <elopio> m4sk1n: hello. I'm on holidays, so I can review your task on monday, or sergiusens an kyrofa can do it earlier.
[19:44] <m4sk1n> probably if it's translated…
[19:45] <m4sk1n> when I translated `basic-snap-usage` i haven't translated output that isn't translated to Polish
[19:45] <elopio> m4sk1n: that sounds right. Until we make snap and snapcraft multilanguage, that part should be in english.
[19:45] <m4sk1n> ok :)
[19:46] <davidcalle> sergiusens: looks like I missed the memo, thanks :)
[19:47] <elopio> hey davidcalle, we already have people translating tutorials :D
[19:47] <davidcalle> elopio: I know! I pinged zyga about this one already ;)
[19:47] <elopio> davidcalle: I'm on holidays, with intermitted connection, so I will be of more help on monday.
[19:48] <davidcalle> elopio: no worries!
[19:54] <sjal> hey there
[19:55] <KrzysiekSiemv> Hi!
[19:56] <sjal> hello there KrzysiekSiemv
[19:57] <sjal> anyway, I know it's more of a mailing-list thing
[19:57] <sjal> but I really like the initiative you guys are doing
[19:57] <sjal> is it too late to help you somehow?
[19:58] <sjal> I don't really stick to ubuntu community whatsoever but would love to help if it's possible
[19:58] <MaskyS> sjal: What are you referring to as mailing list haha?
[19:58] <sjal> You know, stuff like offering help
[19:58] <sjal> I think it should stick to a mailing list
[19:58] <sjal> but if you have an IRC channel I've decided to join here and ask instead :P
[19:59] <wxl> what sort of help you want to offer?
[19:59] <Makczar> hi
[19:59] <sjal> what sort of help do you need?
[19:59] <Makczar> @elopio hi
[19:59] <wxl> the priamry help involves mentoring folks on the tasks created
[19:59] <MaskyS> sjal: I think helping out students on the IRC chat is a great way to contribute.
[19:59] <Makczar> what
[19:59] <Makczar> elopio1
[20:00] <sjal> sounds like an idea, I'm on freenode anyway while at work so :)
[20:00] <wxl> i'm not sure what exactly you can accomplish unless you're a mentor, though. are tasks publicly accessible?
[20:00] <sjal> Yeah
[20:00] <sjal> they are
[20:00] <wxl> ah then yeah you can try to walk students through what you can
[20:01] <wxl> and try to connect them with all the right folks here
[20:01] <sjal> cool, great
[20:01] <sjal> is the code-in only in english btw?
[20:01] <wxl> if there's a specific area you feel you're well versed enough on to ask as a mentor, that may be something to ask about. popey seems to be mostly in charge
[20:01] <wxl> afaik, yes
[20:01] <wxl> although there are some translation tasks out there, so it's not all ABOUT english :)
[20:04] <sjal> Do you have list of the tasks somewhere?
[20:04] <sjal> and yeah I saw some tasks that have like 10+ mentors on it so it passess quicker, not sure if the kids are looking on stuff like this
[20:04] <wxl> on the code-in page
[20:04] <sjal> but still I realised you kinda need mentors, not sure how picky you are
[20:04] <wxl> i think popey has a spreadsheet too but it's nto as official
[20:05] <popey> The site has the tasks
[20:05] <popey> No spreadsheets needed :)
[20:05] <sjal> it's not easily readible as a spreadsheet or plaintext though
[20:05] <sjal> as easily*
[20:05] <MaskyS> sjal: truw
[20:05] <MaskyS> true*
[20:06] <wxl> ummm webscrape with curl/wget? :)
[20:09] <davidcalle> elopio: do you mind if I reduce the number of instances of translation tasks? It seems to be a very popular choice and we are going to have limited resources on this specific task (between looking for native speakers and setting up a language picker for the site)
[20:10] <popey> davidcalle: that's fine, we can spread them out with lower numbers available
[20:10] <davidcalle> popey: ok :)
[20:10] <popey> maybe a task to confirm translations? :)
[20:11] <sjal> does someone proofread those translations?
[20:11] <wxl> you should check with the mentors for those tasks, sjal
[20:12] <wxl> my guess is no
[20:12] <sjal> elopio1: :P
[20:15] <sergiusens> sjal I offered to proof read those translations that were done in spanish
[20:16] <sergiusens> during the review phase of the PR for the translated tutorial
[20:16] <sjal> sergiusens: that's great
[20:16] <sjal> I could proofread in polish, I already translate for FSFE
[20:17] <sjal> I've sent mail about code-in to some schools in Poland, encouraging them to do Ubuntu related tasks, offering help in polish if they query me here on IRC
[20:22] <elopio> davidcalle: I don't mind at all.
[20:23] <elopio> I was hoping the studend would help us find somebody to proof-read, as they probably have friends who speak their own language :)
[20:23] <sjal> elopio: i'm gonna ask you straight - does anyone translate to polish?
[20:24] <elopio> sjal: m4sk1n was translating to polish. And we have a team meamber who speaks polish. And there's probably an ubuntu polish team
[20:24] <elopio> so yes.
[20:24] <sjal> yeah but I meant the students
[20:25] <elopio> sjal: m4sk1n and probably more to come in the following days.
[20:28] <elopio> I wonder where's that elopio1 coming from :/
[20:29] <elopio> ahhh
[20:55] <davidcalle> elopio: I'm a bit worried by the current lack of localization infra on tutorials.u.c. Not sure in which measure we are going to be able to publish many new translations.
[20:58] <davidcalle> I have a couple ideas on how we can work around it, but we need to look into our maintenance options too, maybe LoCos
[21:11] <davidcalle> popey: can you publish https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/6574351660875776/? And other tutorials tasks not published?
[21:11] <davidcalle> I don't have publication powers
[21:23] <popey> davidcalle: holy cow there's 71 of these... ?
[21:27] <popey> done
[21:50] <elopio> davidcalle: it seems to me that just having the translated .md files is useful. But if you want, we can close this task. Or add one to make a language drop down in tutorials.ubuntu.com 😃
[22:13] <deniskamazur> hey there
[22:13] <aden_> hyea
[22:13] <aden_> heya*
[22:15] <deniskamazur> i was told to say hi to elopio, kyrofa and sergiusens :)
[22:15] <kyrofa> Hey hey deniskamazur
[22:15] <kyrofa> Welcome!
[22:57] <davidcalle> popey: thanks!
[23:07] <davidcalle> elopio: It's something we can't really manage yet and I'm afraid reviews we won't be able to do nor support will pile up and put students off. Please close it, I'm going to add a task for a language picker, and if we get something moving on this front, maybe we can reopen it.
[23:10] <elopio> davidcalle: I will close it when I'm home in the night
[23:10] <davidcalle> Thanks elopio