[10:04] <Saviq> hggdh: hey, we're ready now to set up the redirect from #ubuntu-mir to #mir-server, whenever you can help, thanks!
[11:18] <Fuchs> Saviq: - is used for namespace separation on freenode, which means you (Canonical, I assume) should register mir as a project, just as a sidenote
[11:18] <Fuchs> as in: it's always #projectname and #projectname-*
[11:19] <Fuchs> (best would be if a Canonical GC would e-mail us and tell us to please add mir to their namespace)
[11:33] <Saviq> Fuchs: aha, not sure we need that as this is going to be the only channel, I suppose best make it #mirserver then
[11:33] <Fuchs> then you should have the GC mail in and add that to the namespace, if possible :)
[11:34] <Fuchs> I think personally I'd prefer mir, since then if you later need it  (e.g. mir-support, mir-wayland, mir-whatever) you could have it super easily
[11:34] <Fuchs> anyway, for the above forward you need someone with +o in either channel (or make #mir-server a free target by setting the +F channelmode, but I'd not recommend that) so best someone from the IRCCouncil
[11:35] <Saviq> yeah we "lost" the other two ops in #ubuntu-mir
[11:35] <Saviq> so need someone with powers, hggdh said yesterday he can help
[11:35] <Fuchs> so just sit in here and wait for one of them to wake up, in the meantime you could tell a Canonical GC to please drop us a short mail  (two-liner is entirely sufficient) to add mir to your namespace to projects@freenode.net, and we gladly shall
[11:36] <Saviq> Fuchs: and by "GC" you mean?
[11:36] <Fuchs> yeah, he can either use the council account that seems to have flags, or tell us to override something
[11:36] <Fuchs> Saviq: group contact, Canonical should know who these are, I think they recently changed
[11:36] <Saviq> ok I'll find out, thanks
[11:36] <Fuchs> Saviq: the people who are the interface between Canonical and us  (freenode)
[11:36] <Fuchs> great, thank you :)
[11:36] <Saviq> right, yeah
[11:37] <Fuchs> if there are any urgencies in the meantime, do let us know, then we shall see how we can fix them :)
[11:37] <Fuchs> for the forward we'd rather have the okay from the IRCC (or them doing it) though, just to be sure that this is all well
[11:41] <Saviq> kk
[11:47] <popey> Right, I don't think we have a GC anymore.
[11:47] <popey> I'm happy to be "it" if needed.
[12:00] <Saviq> Fuchs: any idea how to proceed ↑?
[17:36] <Saviq> hggdh: hey, when you're around, we'd like to take care of the #ubuntu-mir redirect - I am op of the target #mir-server now - Fuchs suggested that we should ask for the "mir" namespace then, but we seem to have lost our GC... so not sure how to proceed
[17:50] <Fuchs> Saviq: you didn't lose your GC(s), I assume you weren't able to find them, then. That's okay (well, probably something Canonical should fix internally, so people know who to poke), we'll quickly discuss it internally and poke them for you :)
[17:54] <Saviq> thanks, yeah, our IRC docs listed an old GC...
[17:55] <Fuchs> yeah, I can guess which one. No worries, I just need the okay from someone, then I'll go and poke them for you and ask if adding #mir-* to the namespace is fine and, to shorten things, if a forward from #ubuntu-mir is fine. If we have the okay, I'm sure one of the ubuntu IRCC can set up your forward  (or ask us to if needed)
[17:56] <Fuchs> also I'll gently nudge them to update internal documentation, then :)
[18:03] <Saviq> Yeah, thanks :)
[18:03] <Fuchs> welcome :)
[18:03] <Fuchs> sorry for the confusion
[18:04] <Fuchs> mind that technically the ubuntu folks can decide to do the forward already in the meantime, I certainly won't stop them, I'd just like the #mir-* thing being solved along, otherwise this will be a potential future issue, and they might prefer Canonical okay as well
[18:06] <dax> you need +s in the target channel to mlock +f, right? if so, probably would go faster if Saviq does /msg chanserv flags #mir-server UbuntuIrcCouncil +s
[18:06] <Fuchs> yes
[18:06] <Fuchs> (for the "you need ..." part, otherwise you know ubuntu policies better than I do :))
[18:09] <dax> Yeah. I obviously can't speak for them, and am not particularly speaking for anyone other than me right now, but probably the easiest way is to do that and have an IRCCer deal with all the redirection, then drop the access if desired afterwards.
[18:09] <Fuchs> sounds good, so we only need IRCC and I will take care of the mir side as per here and internal channel
[18:16] <Saviq> Fuchs: "[ChanServ] Flags +s were set on UbuntuIrcCouncil in #mir-server."
[18:16] <Fuchs> okay, then for the forward you only need IRCC now, as we won't do it without their okay (and then technically they can do it themselves). Thanks :)
[18:16] <Saviq> ack