[09:24] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:50] <Nafallo> did anyone upgrade 17.04 to 17.10? and how did it go?
[09:50] <Nafallo> popey: ^-- you would have, right? :-)
[09:50] <popey> Actually I didn't.
[09:51] <popey> My laptop is still on 16.04, and on my testing machine I went direct to 17.10 clean install to test it clean
[09:51] <popey> (morning btw Nafallo ) :)
[09:51] <Nafallo> popey: morning, and LTNS :-)
[09:52] <Nafallo> I hoped it was still implied that you'd upgrade ;-)
[09:52] <Nafallo> but maybe that was just my team :-P
[09:53] <popey> I am very much "stick on LTS" kind guy
[09:54] <SuperMatt> I'm very much a "omg, the alpha is released and it has a shiny feature I really want to try" kinda guy
[09:54] <popey> hahah
[09:54] <popey> well, that too - which is why i have two laptops :)
[09:54] <popey> and a million VMs
[09:54] <Nafallo> and now that I'm back on IRC I'm sure I'll be on development cycles as soon as they're open ;-)
[09:54] <SuperMatt> surely you should be using docker containers
[09:54] <popey> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Hv4Nk4C7/Ok%2C%20not%20a%20million%2C%20but%20lots.
[09:55] <popey> I do not use docker for anything at all
[09:55] <Nafallo> popey: !seen Daviey
[09:55] <popey> I have seen him on another irc network, but not around these parts recently
[09:55] <SuperMatt> I guess it all depends what you're testing. If it's something graphical then it has to be a vm, but personally I do lots of devopsy stuff, so docker fits me well
[09:55] <popey> Sure, it has its uses.
[09:56] <popey> I'm more doing full system installs, and need it to be unfettered
[09:56] <Nafallo> popey: so he exists, but missed me so much he decided to leave the network? :-O
[09:59]  * Nafallo notice popey learnt not to feed trolls
[09:59] <popey> maybe
[09:59] <Nafallo> if I'd be in London, I'd get a beer though surely? :-)
[10:00] <Nafallo> that being said. Gothenburg has beer, but way more expensive, and way more percentage :-P
[10:15] <Seeker`> o/
[10:39] <foobarry> any redditors here please upvote to help out old foobarry https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadminjobs/comments/7g39cy/hiring_hpclinux_sysadmin_london_use_awesome/
[10:39] <foobarry> wow popey is here. haven't seen him for a while
[10:39] <popey> I think i chat less on irc in general these days
[10:40] <foobarry> i installed mate on my spare laptop after cloudready/chromebook kept freezing/turning off
[10:40] <popey> foobarry: tried posting to linux jobs mailing list?
[10:40] <foobarry> i used to years ago, but figured its died out a bit now - how many subscribers on that list?
[10:40] <foobarry> and i got some weirdos approaching me via that list
[10:41] <foobarry> worth a go i suppose
[10:56] <Seeker`> any worse than the weirdos you get on irc?
[11:06] <zmoylan-pi> ahem, you only get the *BEST* weirdos on irc! :-)
[11:40] <foobarry> i actually have an interesting , exciting and rewarding job, but nobody wants it :|
[11:40] <foobarry> except weirdos
[11:43] <SuperMatt> Problem is, all the good SysAds are becoming DevOps and SREs, so using the term SysAd doesn't get as many eyeballs
[11:43] <SuperMatt> But I have upvoted, as per your request
[11:43] <foobarry> this jobs uses devops tools and workflows
[11:44] <SuperMatt> Then make sure you say devops
[11:44] <foobarry> but more interesting than devops work ;)
[11:44] <SuperMatt> talk about the tools and workflows that'll be involved
[11:53] <foobarry> ok will do thx
[12:09] <foobarry> my firefox has gone titsup
[12:11] <foobarry> cannot resize the content ..thats a new one
[12:11] <zmoylan-pi> but did it do it faster and with less ram and cpu? :-)
[12:11] <TwistedLucidity> FF has been playing up for me today. Turned out to be a change in NoScript
[12:12] <foobarry> resize the browser window but the page size stayed there
[16:03] <CoderEurope> We are the knight of nih and we demand ...
[16:03] <CoderEurope> we demand ....
[16:03] <CoderEurope> um ..
[16:04] <CoderEurope> er...
[16:04] <CoderEurope> a shubbery bush !
[16:04] <CoderEurope> bye.
[20:36] <daftykins> big news everyone, the builders have left!
[20:37] <zmoylan-pi> ...they've taken the roof till your cheque clears? :-P
[20:38] <daftykins> hehe
[20:38] <daftykins> aaah it feels so good, all their gear has been cleared out, my bikes are back in the hall where they belong instead of in my way here in the lounge... and i have my office back
[20:39] <daftykins> although so far all i've done is mopped the (visible) floor in there... so many windows to paint inside and out still
[20:39] <zmoylan-pi> peace, quiet, bliss, till you hear the clock ticking behind a new wall... :-)
[20:40] <zmoylan-pi> ooops.... https://twitter.com/lemiorhan/status/935581020774117381
[20:40] <daftykins> i can outlast its' batteries!
[20:40] <zmoylan-pi> new clocks can go years on batteries...
[20:41] <daftykins> oh dear oh dear
[20:41] <daftykins> mmm, insanity might find me first
[20:41] <zmoylan-pi> 13 years...http://wgntv.com/2017/06/19/alarm-clock-stuck-inside-wall-for-13-years-goes-off-every-day/
[22:03] <diddledan> haha. gotta love a clock going off like clockwork
[22:03] <daftykins> assuming you clock what's happening ;D
[22:05] <zmoylan-pi> i did find online for my brother a few years back a gizmo that ran off a p9 battery that beeped every random number of hours so once every 2-3 days... to drop in a frenemies gaff to drive them bonkers
[22:06] <daftykins> ooh that's evil
[22:06] <zmoylan-pi> been that evil requires careful planning... because you care... not in a good way mind >:-)
[22:08] <zmoylan-pi> easy to make a microbit arduino do it now... could run years off right battery combo
[22:10] <zmoylan-pi> think father ted ripping the place apart to find the bug in the one about the over 75s football game... :-D
[22:10] <diddledan> that's just silly: https://www.neowin.net/news/hdmi-21-is-finally-here-and-it-has-support-for-10k-resolution
[22:10] <daftykins> well when my new TV arrives i'll immediately throw it out ;)
[22:10] <zmoylan-pi> because you want to be able to count the nasal hairs in every news readers nose?
[22:11] <diddledan> that or you want a 12foot tv
[22:11] <daftykins> pah you won't get broadcast in that :)
[22:11] <zmoylan-pi> 12foot... pffft, metric... 4m tv
[22:11] <diddledan> I think 65inches is still silly
[22:12] <daftykins> really? they look normal if the room is appropriate
[22:12] <zmoylan-pi> they'll start showing wimbledon from centre line so that you look left and right with the audience at the areana... :-)
[22:12] <diddledan> lol
[22:13] <daftykins> in the box will be the little plane journey cushions to help your neck
[22:13] <zmoylan-pi> the sony version will waft scent of vanilla and strawberries if you pay to 'sit' in the posh section
[22:19] <zmoylan-pi> did i see recently that ms latest xbox doesn't support 4k games, only sony playstation latest offering?
[22:21] <zmoylan-pi> so even 4k is not generating huge demand
[22:21] <daftykins> no that's incorrect
[22:22] <zmoylan-pi> ah...
[22:22] <daftykins> the PS4 Pro is medicore at 4K so mostly makes use of checkerboarding to make up the resolution, the very latest "xbox one x" is meant to achieve 60fps at 4K just fine
[22:23] <daftykins> though most of the time will be spent watching the download bar for any given games' update to allow the improvements :D
[22:24] <zmoylan-pi> i suspect a pay per pixel system... :-)
[22:25] <zmoylan-pi> haven't had a console since original playstation or nintendo ds lite
[22:25] <daftykins> i think the latest big titles are now hitting 100GB on that latest model