[00:34] <Scary_Guy> welcome to the ability to have reasonable speeds, not that you'll get them after the FCC FSCK's the internet
[01:45] <jrwren> speeds exactly the same as with old modem. :)
[01:46] <jrwren> but at least if i want to pay for faster i will get it.
[01:47] <jrwren> zomg, do NOT use -D option on mkfs.ext4 if you want it to go fast.
[02:03] <Scary_Guy> they wouldn't give me a new modem, so I upgraded my speed and they had to so I could utilize it.  of course after upgrading I didn't want to go back
[02:05] <jrwren> oh, i buy my modem instead of rent.
[02:05] <jrwren> over the years it saved some money, but... i've also heard of people's bought modems going bad, in which case, you lose money :(
[02:06] <Scary_Guy> apparently they say we can't use our own because we use VOIP, which is bullshit
[02:13] <jrwren> huh... that... is... weird... is it comcast?
[07:40] <greg-g> phones are super effing expensive
[07:42] <Scary_Guy> these days yes, seems like that's the plan though.  budget phones are still crap and flagships cost what they used to before things got stupid cheap
[07:43] <Scary_Guy> I suppose you can thank iPhone for that
[13:14] <jrwren> i dunno.  $399 iphone is cheap for what you get IMO.
[13:15] <jrwren> and there are the free and $1 flip phones out there still. phones seem cheap.
[14:08] <cmaloney> morning
[14:09] <cmaloney> I think the big issue is the disparity between the "cheap" phones and the flagship phones
[14:10] <cmaloney> It's either "This is the same stuff that we were flogging two years ago" or "This is a phone that now costs as much as a house payment"
[14:11] <jrwren> flagship phones are stupid.
[14:12] <jrwren> its like saying cars are expensive because a mclauren costs 250k
[15:37] <Scary_Guy> I like to get last generation flagship phones because they still work well and are cheap.  now I like getting them from two generations ago