[04:21] <bluesabre> flocculant: I've nearly got playlist support working, should have something testable this week, https://i.imgur.com/r1hwwvu.png
[05:53] <flocculant> ochosi: yep - and it works here too :)
[05:53] <flocculant> bluesabre: nice one :D
[11:45] <bluesabre> flocculant: pushed playlist support to git
[11:47] <bluesabre> I think the one other thing we were interested in was the red icon when audio plays and things are muted
[11:48] <bluesabre> I know so much about dbus now :) / :\
[12:07] <knome> haha
[12:07] <knome> hello bluesabrey
[12:12] <bluesabre> heya knome
[12:24] <knome> if you're feeling creative, feel free to check out the new flyer drafts :P
[12:25] <knome> https://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/flyer-1804/flyer_A4_updates.pdf
[12:25] <knome> basically that one
[12:25] <knome> (see how it's less wall of a text now!)
[12:25] <knome> and see how far we are with the front page :P
[12:26] <knome> actually i have a slightly more worked version, but not much
[12:26] <knome> so ideas on what we want on the front page are welcome
[12:27] <knome> and if you come up with something, feel free to put the ideas in here: http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-1804-flyer
[12:27] <knome> which is samefully out of sync 
[12:27] <knome> shamefully too
[12:27] <knome> i need to start preparing leaving the house
[12:29] <knome> catch you later
[12:38] <slickymasterWork> knome, there was a typo in the flyer
[12:39] <slickymasterWork> corrected it now in the pad
[12:49] <slickymasterWork> also removed some extra space between words and added some suggestions
[18:21] <flocculant> bluesabre: I assume not git://git.xfce.org/users/bluesabre/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin then as I get warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout
[18:24] <flocculant> ftr I generally have no idea where specific things might be hiding in git :p
[18:34] <ali1234> that sounds unusual
[18:36] <flocculant> ali1234: well it was me doing it ...
[18:36] <ali1234> it is because the remote does not have a "master" branch
[18:36] <ali1234> i think
[18:36] <ali1234> you can "git clone -b devices ..."
[18:37] <ali1234> or check out the branch manually
[18:37] <flocculant> it's possible it's the wrong thing anyway 
[18:37] <ali1234> what are you looking for? "push playlist support to git"?
[18:37] <flocculant> yea I guess
[18:38] <ali1234> https://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin/commit/?id=5cbe27be4be9552755c5463c2b8ad68358e7dc29
[18:38] <ali1234> that's on the "main" repo
[18:38] <ali1234> git://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
[18:38] <ali1234> master branch :)
[18:39] <flocculant> aah - there we go, wrong thing anyway :D
[18:41] <flocculant> ali1234: thanks :)
[19:12] <flocculant> mm well - no idea then, cloned master, built it - no change in version or what I see, changelog here only appears to go back to the 25th
[19:50] <ochosi> flocculant: kewl, mind to post another screener? (ideally in the "normal" xubuntu panel size)
[19:52] <flocculant> ochosi: what's the normal xubuntu panel size lol
[19:53] <ochosi> i think 24 or 26px
[19:53] <ochosi> would have to check x-d-s
[19:53] <flocculant> https://i.imgur.com/1mVnXlV.png @26px
[19:54] <flocculant> if that's all as expected I'll lose it from panel now ;)
[19:56] <ochosi> yes it is
[19:56] <ochosi> thanks a bunch!
[19:56] <ochosi> oh wait
[19:57] <ochosi> what does the "devices" tab say in the xfpm settings dialog?
[19:57] <flocculant> devices tab?
[19:58] <ochosi> http://i.imgur.com/qAhIqew.png
[19:58] <flocculant> have no devices tab
[19:59] <flocculant> xfpm is @ 1.6.0+git-0~2247~ubuntu18.04
[20:00] <ochosi> ah ok
[20:00] <ochosi> that's also fine
[20:00] <ochosi> it's dynamic
[20:01] <ochosi> i just wanted to know what it would show *if* it were to show something
[20:01] <flocculant> ochosi: ok :) 
[20:02] <ochosi> if you connect e.g. a bluetooth mouse that has battery support in upower you would suddenly get a devices tab
[20:02] <flocculant> aah ok - that's nice :)
[20:05] <ochosi> you'd also see that in the panel plugin then
[20:05] <flocculant> right
[20:15] <knome> slickymaster, the extra space is from the pad, it's not in the flyer itself :P
[20:20] <knome> slickymaster, "in addition, ... is also"? nope
[20:23] <ochosi> knome: looks ok to you too? (the power icon) https://i.imgur.com/1mVnXlV.png
[20:23] <knome> hmm.
[20:23] <knome> i'd probably make the lightning a bit wider
[20:24] <knome> or in other words, increase the "stroke" width
[20:27] <ochosi> dunno if that wouldn't make it look "fat" when being larger
[20:28] <knome> i don't know
[20:28] <knome> maybe, but then it's too thin now.. and this is our default panel size, right?
[20:28] <knome> so which size is more important?
[20:28] <knome> (:
[20:28] <ali1234> i agree. to my eyes, that looks like a dot in a circle...
[20:29] <knome> it's not "awful" to me, i just think you can do better..,.
[20:29] <flocculant> I can see it's not a dot without my glasses on
[20:29] <ochosi> :)
[20:29] <ochosi> i can see when i have time to tweak it
[20:29] <ochosi> i definitely like it more than what we had before
[20:29] <ali1234> flocculant: depends which eye i use :)
[20:29] <knome> yes
[20:29] <ochosi> even in 1.4 (or 17.10 ftm)
[20:30] <flocculant> ali1234: :p
[20:45] <knome> ochosi, do you have the svg somewhere?
[20:48] <ochosi> knome: well ofc, it's in git :)
[20:48] <ochosi> elementary-xfce/devices/symbolic
[20:48] <knome> good, i might check and try it out then
[20:48] <ochosi> sure thing
[20:59] <Unit193> krytarik: Hmm...Better late than never?
[21:04] <krytarik> Unit193: Hmm... I've looked everywhere I can think of, but it seems I'm still missing context. :P
[21:06] <Unit193> There is no context, it's a question without any!  (Core, 17.10.)
[21:06] <flocculant> bluesabre: anyway - so confused here - after building and installing apparently still got 0.3.2
[21:06] <flocculant> night all
[21:11] <krytarik> Unit193: Hmm, thanks.  Seems there was no notification about it.. :(
[21:12] <Unit193> Notification?
[21:13] <krytarik> The build one - got it for 18.04 though.
[21:14] <Unit193> There isn't one, hasn't happened yet.
[21:14] <krytarik> Ok, very well then!  Go!
[21:26] <Unit193> Bah.
[21:30] <Unit193> We'll have to wait for some smoke testing too.
[21:44] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 17.10 - i386 - i386 built.
[21:55] <genii> Hm
[22:04] <Unit193> flocculant: Hi, so I'm (not really wanting to, but figure I should) looking to email -devel about some testing for these before I actually "release" them.  Do I have to run this by you?  Should it come from you?  Or just go ahead?
[22:05] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 17.10 - amd64 - amd64 built.
[22:26] <bluesabre> flocculant: https://git.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin/
[22:28] <bluesabre> Probably doesn't need much testing... it basically works or it doesn't
[22:37] <bluesabre> The only thing it doesn't do yet is listen for new playlists... hoping to fix that tonight
[22:53] <ochosi> bluesabre: any reservations from your side against gtkswitches in menus?
[22:53] <ochosi> wondering whether to make the DND mode in notifyd one
[22:54] <bluesabre> ochosi: my only complaint is that the smallest the switches get in greybird is still extra large
[22:55] <ochosi> i guess i could make them a little smaller still
[22:55] <ochosi> arc does an ok job at sizing them well
[22:56] <ochosi> for notifyd it
[22:56] <ochosi> 's mostly for making the option more noticeable
[22:58] <bluesabre> :)
[22:58] <knome> i agree it could be smaller too
[22:59] <bluesabre> but yeah, otherwise no complaints from me
[22:59] <knome> but i also agree that it's better if it's more visible
[22:59] <ochosi> maybe we should discuss this in #xfce-dev rather...